Would you like to be on Mumsnet's research panel? We're especially keen for new parents (and parents-to-be) to join. You can sign up here - there's (nearly) always a great incentive on offer for your views.
September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012(992 Posts)
Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz
The old thread
Many thanks ssmile for setting up the new thread, may our Christmasses be full of baby fun and the new year merry with our baby's laughter.
Thanks for new thread - marking my place. I have just got a moby wrap from eBay so will need your tips on how best to use it once it arrives!
Had a quick read of some of the posts on other thread. My there are a lot of teachers in this group but to be expected for max maternity leave! I too am a teacher. Secondary science just like geekmum!
Yesterday morning I woke up with an itch on my leg and bra strap area. I thought it was just an insect bite. Last night my whole body was itching! I have hives but can't for the life of me think what has caused it. On top of that I don't have any antihistamines nor do I know which ones are safe to have whilst nursing
We want to see my cousin yesterday and his 12month old son is only slightly bigger than my 15 well DD! DD is on 50th so not particularly huge. I think she maybe bullying him when she is older. Lol.
Argh this itch is annoying me. Off to scratch at it and post later.
Ooo sounds nasty, have you got any camomile lotion? Or porridge can help (cold, obviously!)
Yay for the teachers! By my count there are now 6 on this thread. Good for the non teachers to get advice from in the future! I'll be going back to work in June though - took early maternity as I wanted to avoid the moderators on a vocational science course who were due in June/July to scrutinise my work [grim]
I too am losing hair everywhere. After washing I can literally have a handful (albeit small) of hair come out when rinsing. I'm having to clean out the plug hole everyday! Yuck!
Went out yesterday on panic Saturday, was fairly quiet in the big m&s. Going to make pâté, bacon cheese twists and salami sausage rolls today to take to the parents and pils.
Have a good day
Oh Summer I feel for you, when I came out of hosp I had a rash over legs and arms from something I reacted to in hosp. It can get quite all consuming trying not to think of scratching - really hope it clears up.
Sleeping question - My LO sleeps much better on his front and is now 13w, is it safe to let him sleep on front in crib next to me at night?, he does during day downstairs but I keep close eye on him, when on back he keeps jerking awake with that 'looks like he thinks he is falling' thing which I have been told is a reflex to keep them breathing so id front sleeping safe as he is only just learning to roll?
Oh goody I found you all!
Im not a teacher however I am a senior nursery nurse lol work in a private nursery in charge of the two - three year olds!
Lo hates being on his tummy so I just dont do it often, proped him up on some pillows this morning and he kept trying to sit up properly! He also slept from 9.00pm - 3.30 this morning then straight back off to sleep after a bottle until 7!
My best mate is getting married next year and I'm in charge on her hen night god im having nightmares about it already! Any ideas for things to do in london including a hotel stay for less than £100 pp???
At what age can a baby go in to a sling/wrap for??
Any of you BF mums, could you have a look at this thread and see if you have any advice. Thought I would write a separate thread for it. Thanks if anyone can help.
Ssmile, grr putting a baby to CIO on its own; it makes me so to think about it. And cross when people tell you that it's the best way to parent too, just coz it happened to work for them. Well done you for not losing your rag!
I have a Close Carrier which, I realised, is identical to a Moby wrap but I've lost the instructions and always just do the hug hold. DD's probably got good enough head control for me to do the hip hold now though so I'm going to do some experimenting I think. I quite often get half way up the road to nursery and realise that I haven't got the straps right and by the time I get back home I'm in bloody agony though. It is a fiddly bugger! I also have a Babasling which is much easier but she doesn't like it much!
YY to porridge for weird skin probs. DH gets really dry and flaky sometimes and I make him have a porridge bath where you put a load of oats in an old sock, tie up the top and then use it like soap. It makes your skin lovely and soft.
My hair's a right pain. DS is getting well annoyed with finding it in the bath and I keep pulling it out of DD's mouth. It even gummed up the hoover today so it wouldn't work! And my nails have lost their lovely pg strength too and are back to their normal flaky-breaky selves
Candr my DS and DD both do the 'jolt' and both have been front sleepers from very early. I've never heard that it's to keep them breathing though, I always thought it was just when they experience the transition between light and deep sleep (I have done no research into this btw, I just assumed ).
BTW DD not keen on tummy time except if I put a mirror in front of her, then she'll laugh at herself for a good 5 mins or so. Worth a try for all those unenthusiastic tummy-timers?
Yay to the new thread!
Ssmile - boo to your brother and you stick to your guns... your instinct with your LO has to be the best thing, and I'm definitely not going to be putting my LO in another room until passed the 6 months stage (and dreading it already!)
Well, survived MIL visit. And, had a lovely night out with friends... ring was spotted pretty quickly and all very excited for me Started quizzing me on details of wedding, which I have none at the moment... just hoping to aim for Summer 2012 (would have gone sooner but want 6 months to lose some weight!!!)
BUT, had a nightmare on way home. I reached a local town and it was raining - which doesn't bode well as when it's raining there, it's snowing at home... and yes, got up one big hill, and then the rain turned to snow... and the road covered with fresh snow, and no tracks... managed to get further up, and then on the last hill to my little hamlet, I got stuck half way up, wheels not budging for love nor money... had to run up the hill to get a signal, phoned OH who thankfully rescued me in his Landrover!! Got a tow up the hill into the hamlet, and left the car somewhere safe and came home in the landy ... thank god his parents were in and he could safely leave LO... who was still sleeping soundly in her crib when we got in (it was about 11.30) Bit of an adventure!!! Just glad I was driving in my boots and had a hat in the car!!
So, have had a quiet afternoon after PIL gone, watching Strictly from last night - really enjoyed it, thought Jason's show dance was brilliant, but glad Harry won!!
Summer have your hives gone?
Candrcane I thought the sleeping on the front thing was to avoid SIDS. I wouldn't do it until your LO can roll confidently. But then again my parents' generation used to put us on our fronts from birth...
Jojojo what sort of hen party are you looking for? Can't help you with drunken debauchery. I know there's places you can hire for karaoke, will try to find the one I've been to in the past if you want? Alternatively I know someone that did Buckingham palace followed by a picnic in the park for their hen.
100years, no further advice on oversupply beyond what's already on your thread. Well done you on donating! Wish I could have enough to donate but it takes me about an hour to get 60mls out - the pump is not my friend!
Ssmile ditto what the others have said. Your mil and brother don't sound like they've got a bone of consideration in their bodies, so take everything in your stride then come and rant to us about it! My mil is constantly saying things like "that's what I did with so and so and it worked fine". I take the bits that are useful and then discard the rest!
Snowy sounds like you had a fab night out! I would have panicked so much about getting stuck in the snow, thank goodness your pils were there to look after the lo. We didn't have any snow in the end down my way in Woking.
Falala you must have some amazingly long hair to break the Hoover
Think I've covered everybody, sorry if I missed anyone out!
My nursing chair arrived today, much more comfortable! Now just have to work out how to pick up and put down LO in his cot without straining my back...
I went to the walk in clinic and waited an hour to see the dr who gave me some piriton. I got sent away by a pharmacist and a nurse before seeing the dr only to be given something they both could've prescribed. I think I was in there for a max of 5 mins with dr. Took one piriton and itch stopped 30 mins later. Woke up with a slight itch so I took another and all is well for now. I really dunno what set it off but I rarely react to anything.
Slings... I have a babasling but I still cannot master the moves I see on kiddicare so DD just stays in one position (I think joey) but that still strains my back. How can little things be so heavy?!!
I put DD into the jumperoo today and she completely ignored everything on it and sucked her hands enthusiastically. I remember DS took to it like a duck to water! I think she's slower than DS in development, which isn't a bad thing considering what a smartarse DS is ATM!
Sorry forgot who posted about being stuck outdoors (falalala maybe?). I would hate that to happen to me. I think I am too much of a townie to live in the country/remote areas anyway. Did you manage to get your car back safely?
Geekmum, I too am going back in June. I don't think I can afford to go onto zero pay and if I go back June 1st i'll get half term pay and can work out my notice if I get a job elsewhere. My cover is a NQT. I don't think they will dispose of her on the last half term so I am hoping for an easy time .
We having fluffy socks day ere (our version of PJ day ) mostly playing games&puzzles with 4yr old, but we have had walk to park in rain as had something to post. Now its sofa, blankets &pillows and TV as DD1 has vsnotty cold which I'm praying babe&I don't get. I'm fed up as every Xmas for last five yrs someone has been ill I had hoped we were escaping this yr but DH woke up with cold too this morn.
Glad the hives have gone summerpixie
Aaargh, we do have horrible colds, DS and I curled on sofa but he won't sleep for longer than 20 min and not feeding much so will keep close eye. I feel like crap and you forget what a privalige breathing is when you can do it normally.
Great start to day as got us dressed and he threw up all over me and him, horrible having to strip and deal with pukey baby while naked and dripping in sour milk (me not him) - he seemed fine, I got very cold.
Does anyone elses DS keep retching on their own hand? He still tucks thumb into fist and shoves whole fist in?
Summerpixie, glad your on the mend, have had mums asking me to come back to school as they don't like my cover teacher - she is very good but a bit boring and the class are a real handful, 24 are boys out of 36. I do miss them but love being with baby - mind you I look forward to DH coming home in evening.
Summerpixie great news on your hives going
Candrcane My LO sticks his whole fist in and then trys to get both in does gag sometimes but is normally quite good at moving his fist before he is sick. We went through three changes of clothes this morning so know the feeling but luckly for me I was in pjs!
As for going back to work I think that I wont be able to return to the nursery I was at as it takes an hour and half on the bus meaning I would normally leave my house @5.40 and not return until 8pm!
santageekmum I want a nursing chair! even thought LO is formula fed and I have no rrom what so ever in my room! Still so very jelouse of you! lol
Ssmile - let's hope it's just a minor cold and your DH is better for Xmas!
Summer my cover is an nqt as well, but as he's not very good they will probably want me to come back! I've applied to go back two days a week from September although ideally I'd like to be a SAHM, basically because teaching has long hours which isn't easy when you have a LO.
DS tries to stick his fist in his mouth too, but not to the extent that he makes himself sick!
Hi Ladies. Tired and heading to bed now. Have been reading, but will say hi properly tomorrow (I hope) Hope you have good nights.
Hooray - found you (I am so bad at the techie side of my iPhone !)
Snowy, so envious of you - your little snowy hamlet (lovenest) sounds so gorgeous. Being rescued by your oh in a landrover - beats my nights out !
Hope all unwell babes and mums and dads turn the corner into wellness soon.
I have a big tonight as I did the major tesco run at 9.30pm and it was deserted. Now just need to do waitrose on Christmas eve for last minute items while I collect my pre-ordered ridiculously overpriced turkey ! Finished and posted cards finally and have done most of the present delivery - breathing big sigh of relief as I don't feel great tonight and dh is out most of the nights this week with friends (oh lucky him !!!). Stuck indoors today with 3 dcs was not the best if fun and by 5pm the novelty had worn off ! Tomorrow I have the dentist with all three and that's about it ( so relaxing day I hope) nite nite all - sleep dust thrown generously into the air.....
Morning all. Pumping once again here.
I find he most annoying thing about babies puking everywhere is when you have to get undressed and you have to carefully manoeuvre your top to avoid the bits of curdled milk which are still stuck to it from getting into your hair as you pull it over your head, candr. Thankfully DD is not much of a puker and more of a spitter, where she'll drink store and then spray all in the space of 10 secs!
Well done minky coping with 3 kids, you must be exhausted. DS doesn't break up until tomorrow afternoon so I'm quite fortunate plus DH is still on holiday leave from work. I think I would go slowly insane if I had to look after DD and DS on my own in these winter weeks! DS has the typical 4 year old question time. Except it is all day long when he is at home. Why are you doing that? What is this for? Can I do this? He feels the need to give me running commentaries about everything (something dh does frequently) and still tells me when he needs to go toilet, although he knows he can just go on his own which he does after I give him approval to go!
Geekmum, my cover isn't really a cover for my classes. As I left at the end of term they got a replacement who got her own timetable. I saw some kids and The ones from my btec class want me back. They are a bit dim and I has to explain that I would not be teaching them at all before they leave as I would return after they go on study leave. I think my a level classes were most affected as they lost both their teachers as my partner teacher retired at the same time so they've had to have 2 new teachers. How many visits have all you teachers made to work? I find it difficult to find the energy to face going in to work and then fighting off the kids when I walk through school!(work in a girls school)
Oh well, pumping over for another night/morning. Hope you are all asleep with your LO snuggled up.
Hey Minky sounds like a good supermarket run! But know what you mean about the 'novelty' wearing off by 5 when looking after kids. The last hour and a half/ two hrs before DH gets back is the most exhausting and so slow! And I've only got the one kid to look after...
Summer apparently my DH when a baby himself used to vomit up a handful of milk after each feed - mil would literally cup her hands in front of him to catch it! Although our DS doesn't have the same problem, he possets a bit but not much. AIBU to not change clothes after each incident?!
And I had the same issue with my btec class - "Miss Miss when will you be back? June? Oh good so we'll have you back then... what do you mean, you won't be teaching us at all?" I've been back into school three times so far and manage it by only walking around when students are in class, we don't have a sixth form so rarely have students wandering the corridors between lessons.
Really pleased tonight, DS managed 8:30-4:00, although I'm not holding my breath for it to continue! He used to do 8:30-8:00 for a few weeks before starting to wake three times in the night, went to twice last night and hopefully just the once tonight, been typing whilst waiting for him to wake again and fingers crossed he hasn't yet so might go back to sleep within one hour of waking! Must be that sleep dust Minky threw around...
wowy onto another thread!!
re bottle and breast, i currently completely breastfeed as we're on the EAT allergy study so LO cant have any formula, but with our 1st 2 dcs they had a bottle before bed int eh evenings, and when out and about (im more confident this time around and have a bebe au lait for feeding in public) and also when i was out with friends (we have since moved and dont really know anyone here). they were both fine on it.
we didnt get any snow here thank goodness!
just made a christmas cake- mary berry bag thing was down to £3 in tesco. says to wait 24 hours to marzipan then 24 hours to ice- the kids r struggling just to wait 4 it to cool down so it wont last that long!!!!
oooh tears, back in a bit
Minky - the hamlet is lovely, but when the snow comes, you do get trapped in a bit... and yes, OH was a bit of a hero that night... was a bit scary being stuck in the dark with no signal on the phone, in my party dress (but thankfully boots and a hat!) (Signal gained at the top of the hill, phew...!!)
And, well done on the shopping front.
Agree with the losing the will by around 5pm... today was the first day in ages where I didn't have to zoom back home for 3pm and being home for the step kids... (they split up from school Friday, and went to their Mum's last night - they're there till Saturday now). Had the home all day yesterday... and it is a bit knackering even though they're 10 and 12... although they can sort of look after themselves, the noise...!!! But DSD is pretty good at calming LO when she's wanting a feed and I'm making it up in the kitchen... so that's good!
So got a quietish week now OH finishes work tomorrow... he's kindly volunteered to brave Supermarket on Thursday (as long as he has a list!!) Yay!! Looking forward to a couple of days just the three of us... He's just text too to say should he bring home a takeaway on his way home from work as a treat as it's just the 2 of us for dinner... need he ask the question??? Of course he can bring home a takeaway!! Yummy and no cooking involved! Yay
Yes, my LO is a fist/fingers/thumb sucker too... starting to really dribble lots now!
Well, hope everyone's cold goes away... managed so far to avoid... think it's living in such a cold place!! No bugs want to live here!
Jimmi - hope the tears were short lived... I decorated my cake yesterday too, well marzipaned and iced it... couldn't be bothered to wait 24 hours in between so went straight ahead to ice it (LO was asleep so took advantage!) Though needs a bit of decoration now!
Just a quick post to ask Jimmi what the EAT allergy study is? And how did you get involved? Assuming it's too late now for us but still intrigued...
Your all vgd making Xmas cake, I normally bake but couldn't be bothered this year so bought one. DH doesn't eat it so its only me. Just asked him if I should bother with a tin of sweets as its mostly me that eats them and I'd rather not this year as being at home on maternity leave all I seem to do is eat!
Lo has got passed the suck whole fist till I choke stage, but mega finger& hand sucking ongoing. Her chin has dribble rash now, I've had to start putting some barrier cream on to reduce the redness. Praying she doesn't get the cold DD1& DH have.
Finally found some casual knee high boots I like from sketchers and they had my size so have ordered them in advance of getting some money for Xmas just hope size 8 fits as my feet have definitely grown wider again with this pregnancy! I've tried about ten pairs boots on recently and all too narrow. I'd loved some from animal but noone had size 8 black in stock, I guess everyone else liked them too.
Right off to bed now hoping Lo sleeps till midnight at least.....zzzzz sleep well Lo's....
Santageek and Summer, I'm also being covered by an NQT (our bosses are obviously all trying to save money) although she also got her own timetable and I have no idea what I'll go back to (tons of boring 1:1 probably ) Are you doing Keep In Touch days? I really need the cash so I was thinking of doing the ten KIT days one day a week starting at some point next term, not because I want to, just for the pay!
I went in to visit when DD was two weeks old and I saw my colleagues when we all did the pensions march on the strike day. I mainly avoided the kids when I went in though as DD was only little and I didn't want them all over her!
And yyy to avoiding getting curdled milk everywhere. I have ended up with it on my lip before <vom>
Snowysebs, that is a real adventure! I have this vision of you as a damsel in distress (with a big glinty engagement ring) being swept up by your dashing DP into the landrover, all romantic-like
DD's bottom teeth are edging through with just a really thin layer of skin over them so the soundtrack to the last couple of days has been a constant grizzling. The only way to get calpol down her is to put it into the bottle lid and then to rub it on her tongue with my finger; if I use a syringe - even to squirt a teeny bit at a time - she screams, gags, fights it and pukes it back up all over the place.
We've had friends to stay as well which has been lovely but tiring and disruptive and, what with DD being miserable, not really as enjoyable as it should have been. We went for lunch yesterday and I put her in the sling but she just grizzled and cried all the way through the meal; I know it's difficult for her but I could really do with a break atm!
Managed to cook a curry today, yay! I won't be baking any Christmas cakes because 1) our oven is pants and destroys any cake mixture that goes near it and 2) I don't like Christmas cake and 3) I'm very lucky to be going away to pil and parents this Christmas. I did make some cranberry jelly, pork and mushroom pate, bacon and cheese twists and salami sausage rolls to take with us though!
Ssmile, I got some knee high wide fit boots in size 8 from marks that fit wonderfully. I don't have to struggle at all to do them up or squeeze my heffer feet in them. I tried looking on their website to link to them but couldn't find them anymore, but may be worth looking in their shops if your sketchers don't work out. I hope they are good though!
Falala, I won't be doing any KIT days, unless absolutely necessary - I am deputy subject leader and head of ks3 science so it is possible they might need to call me in, but so far so good. We are in the fortunate position of not having to worry about money so I want to avoid school as much as possible! I was thinking of turning my hand to tutoring instead, but don't know how this will work with a LO.
Hope the dd's grizzlies go soon Falala!
So much for the 4am wake up yesterday, back to the 2am one tonight. He did have his second jabs today but seems to have not affected him.
Thanks for M&S boots tip &santageek* I normally get my boots from Clarks as I can get 7.5 and wide but this yr none fitted me. Has anyone else's feet changed shape with pregnancy?
OMG babe has done 7-7 with one feed at 2am! After a week of feeds at 12,2,4,6 I was seriously in need of a gd night. She has also been vgrissley falalalagirl last few days the afternoons feel like one long grissle which is vdraining, but yest I just fed every 45mins for 5mins in the arvo so I think that contributed to the gd sleep last night.
Heres to day 3 with babe &4yr old on my own, actually its been easier than I anticipated the school hols, I'm enjoyin time with 4yr old when she not tired &grissling at end of school day we did clay imprint hands n feet Mon, and did feet painting only mildly stressful tryin to include babe too but got gd clay imprint so hope it sets ok as air drying clay.
Sorry I've been AWOL folks.
Just had two nights in a row of ds sleeping till 5:30 now just need him to go to bed before me!
Dd has an ear infection but hopefully will be under control in time for Xmas. Going to look round a school for her this morning (eck) sept is gonna cone round soon I think.
Still not sorted for Xmas got to get my mum something plus finished some sewing gifts!
Santageekmum, thanks for tip on boots, my feet have got a bit bigger - knew I shouldn't have bought 2 pairs of shoes whilst pregnant as they don't fit.
Ssmilewithfairylights - well done on your own with 2, it's not too bad when you don't have a school run ( I used to be a nanny to aged 3m, 2y, 4y and always looked forward to hols)
I tried hand painting which did not work well just some painty fist marks but got good clay feet prints as he just stood on it. My DH put it in oven but not on a tray so it is all curvy where it bent over the bars on oven shelf.
LovesBloominChristmas - poor you dealing with ear infection - I always got kids in my class that had them to put a warm cloth over their ear as couldn't give meds. Hope it goes for your DD
Am off for family lunch so DS can meet one of his great aunts (she doesn't want to be called that at 50 as his other great aunts are in their 90's) Hope he behaves and shows them how well he is smiling. He got given a catterpiller that you pull and it vibrates - did his first proper giggle and grabbed toy for first time. Was so cute
santageek (typing with a wiggling screamer on lap) recieved a card about the study from a hospital in london looking at wether early introduction of allergenic foods helps reduce ythe risk of allergies-we're in the normal weaning group though. they look at all sorts eg my diet, family allergies, examine our housedust, lo's skin, blood etc.
whats everyone doing christmas day?
loves ooh to ear infection, hope it clears up fast!
am slightly jealous of the good nights sleep you seem to be getting, here we have many nightfeeds! after a long day last week and no chance to recover im like a walking zombie!
re maternity leave, is there any help you can get with money if u decide to take the extra 3 months unpaid leave? and if you've told your employer you'll go back after 9months can you later change it to take the full year off? i just cant stand the thought of leaving him! esp as dh seems incapable of even putting our older 2 2 bed or sensibly walking down the street with them and lo in puschair without complaining. it scares me that i'll get back from work to find them-and the house in one piece! am hoping to cut down my hours tho to 3 days a week to begin with.
Falalala - love the image... not sure it was quite that romantic, but was very sweet to be rescued!!
Can't believe how many are teachers on here. I'm an FE college lecturer. But, very lucky not to be going back for a couple of years. And, will probably do something different when I do go back to work too. RE changing mat. leave length - I think you can do this, as long as you give them plenty of notice. Not sure about help with money though.
Mine is dribbling lots too... and also has a slight rash on her chin too. She also likes to eat her fingers and thumbs.
For Christmas, we've got the kids and my Dad is coming up. So it'll be opening pressies in the morning, cooking dinner for about 2ish, then kids'll go to their mum's, and my Dad will leave about 4ish. Then it'll just be the three of us, and time to put feet up and watch TV! And, Boxing Day is just us three again... so hopefully a walk with the dog is about as energetic as it'll get. Then got my brother and girlfriend and Dad coming up again on Tuesday so we'll do a smaller version of Xmas dinner again. Got the kids back mid week and some more friends coming up... so looking forward to the Christmas Day evening and Boxing Day peace!! Although, OH off from tomorrow and has promised to look after LO Friday morning so I can "have a morning off". He did say all day, but we don't get too much time together, so don't want whole day off and want to spend it with him and LO. But will be so nice to have a lie in!! And, he's promised to look after her for couple of hours so I can watch the last Harry Potter film undisturbed!!!
Right, best go and decorate the cake...!!!
Well, was proud to get to meal on time with baby fed, changed and ready to sleep to find I had wrong day - Grrrrrr nappy brain
Sorry ladies. I've not posted yet. I went to before and LO woke needing feeding. I'm having a few (probably minor) problems feeding at the moment and just finding it a bit tough. I know lots of people have it loads worse but it's just getting on top of me at the moment. She does have a tongue tie which I don't know if that's the issue or not given the fact this hasn't been going on since birth, but I'm going to try speak to someone tomorrow and see if I can get something sorted. My other idea of problem is the fast let down/over supply thing I originally posted about. Gah it's all a bit hazy and very confusing right now. I don't know if there is an actual problem or if it's a phase she's going through.
The good news is she's still very happy except for feeding times and it's not every single feeding time just most. And the rolling over is continuing.
I hear father Christmas wrapped her presents today
I'll try and catch up with everything before the weekend. I really hope I manage to. Sorry for my absence and me me me post
Feeling very about sone of your long sleep patterns. Lo is 14 weeks old today and is still on 3-4 hourly night feeds. Has managed 5 hours a few times but very rare.
Had hv on phone yesterday am as she was concerned that I hadn't been to see them since the 8 week check. I did explain that as he is number 3, really content, gaining weight and growing I don't really need to ask anything and that I am actually rather busy. Also explained that as my ds1 has regular appointments with the paediatric team and various health professionals I do get to ask questions from alot of sources - added to which I have friends who are gps and consultants so quite well covered. Don't think she quite got it though!
Dh was out last night and is hungover today and working in his home office tonight and out tomorrow night again. I haven't even managed a haircut in 3 months ! Today I saved my Christmas cake icing disaster and so tomorrow I will be doing meringue snowmen with the kids, bread sauce for Christmas day and last minute bits. Have my friend coming with her hubby and his mobile photographic studio on Friday - he is going to do some pics of all the kids together and sone of lo on his own too. Also going to do better school ones for me !
Well, off to sleepyland - nite all
100 - sorry just saw your post. My lo is also being a bit of a fussy feeder last few days. He seems to be pulling in and off nipple and bashing me - almost like impatience - remember this from ds1 - milk supply changes as they get older and the baby leads demand so you can get slight issues - don't know if that's your issue. On the fast letdown - breastfeeding counsellor says to express into cup first few bits if it upsets lo as they then don't get the full on force of the letdown. Hope you get it sorted, you're doing amazingly to have come this far so try not to let it get to you too much (know that's easier said than done). Sometimes what your eating can also affect milk supply taste - fenugreek is meant to help boost supply - I didn't find that but babe liked the maple syrup taste of my milk for a couple of days so I guess it helped boost milk supply for me.
Hi all, blimey quite a bit to catch up on!
Need to get back to sleep though so will do this as quickly as I can.
Changing mat leave - you can do this as long as you notify them ASAP I believe, something like 28 days notice is needed but get in there early to avoid animosity. You won't get any help financially though.
100years - sorry to hear of your issues. Tongue ties can get worse if the skin grows - is it getting painful to feed? Do your nipples come out beveled at the end? It's a simple procedure to remedy and could make a difference. As to the oversupply and fast letdown I can't help, I have exactly the opposite problem. Best wishes with it all.
Loves - hope the ear infection clears before Xmas and that you get that gift sorted!
Minky - bloody hvs! Some of them just don't get it do they? I have also now become convinced that I am better at researching answers to my problems than my hv is so she really is fulfilling a pointless job as regards to me - she needs to spend more time with more needy families!
Shoe size - I used to be a 7, am now a wide fit 8 and have been told by some friends and my dm that this might be a permanent change! Eek!
Xmas - this year with my parents (we alternate each year) so it will be bacon sarnies for brekkie, unwrap presents, eat chocolate whilst playing with presents, eat Xmas lunch at about 2, then Xmas walk, then a movie followed by board games. Love it. My brother will be coming over, another year running without his biatch of a wife (who gets an invite every year to join us but doesn't come - despite having no family in this country), tbh I find him a bit boring but will be nice for him to see DS again.
1am wake up this morning, it's getting earlier and earlier! Will have to be up again in 2 hours so will be off to bed now. At least I get a long break from 8:30 to this first wake up.
I'm up again pumping away whilst everyone sleeps. Well everyone apart from me and 2 cats who were fighting and wanting out.
Yesterday we ventured on the 2 hr journey to Drayton Manor. If anyone is thinking of going this winter, don't. They make you park in this mud pit slipping all over the place. I nearly fell A over T whilst getting the buggy out. Then had to walk 10mins before getting to Thomasland and got charged £2 for car parking in this mud pit. Needless to say I made a complaint to guest services who refunded me the car park fee. Then, 5 minutes after opening, my DS slipped in the toilets on the wet floors! DH took him to complain and they guiltily gave DS a bag of things with his name on from the shop. The baby feeding rooms were dire. One was a toilet cubicle with the toilet replaced with a bistro chair with armrests! I managed to have 10 minutes undisturbed in one of these rooms expressing before I got a kid constantly trying to open the door( which fortunately had a lock on)! On top of the poor dated facilities the ride operators had a right grump on. DS politely wished everyone a merry Xmas and not a single one smiled nor wished him one back! The true spirit of Xmas! Hope they all get a lump of coal in their stockings.
Foot size.... Hmm I have been wearing ugh boots for ages now so can't say I notice size change lol. I guess feet could still be bloated from fluid retention so get larger?
Return from maternity leave... I think when you apply for maternity leave you don't actually have to notify your employer when you intend to return. You just tell them 28days in advance as many women change their minds as to when they would like to return. During the 3 months unpaid there are no benefits to claim as such but you could apply for/get extra tax credits during? I think I read something about it but have never got tax credits as we earn too much jointly(not that I know where it all goes!).
Feeding and sleeping... My DD no longer has a sleep and feed pattern. Her feeding is extremely erratic at the moment and she never takes more than 24oz breast milk per day. I was concerned as formula fed babies are on about 36oz now but I read that breastfed babies take less milk as the milk is more nutritious. I dunno. She is gaining weight so I'm not worrying yet. She is sleeping 4:30-2:30 ish so that bit is ok just needs a bit of a shift but when she wakes she will lie there trying to wriggle her hands free to suck and play with them whilst talking and laughing very loudly to herself!
Time to return to bed. Hope you're all having a good sleep.
minkyj I've only seen HV twice at 2wks &6wks as req. I don't particularly like the team in our town had far too much conflictin advice last time around they caused me more distress than help.
My Lo had 7-10days very fussy feeding but this wk its settled down (wk 16-17). Typical this morn Both girls slept in and I've been awake since 5.30am! Grrrrrrr DD1 had been up in night with monsters again so was vglad she slept in till 8am. She vvvrarely sleeps late. Babe is still asleep on my bed at 8.45am! She was star again only woke at 12.30 &5.45am.....OMG. still I got little cuddle with DH before he went to work this morn which nice and rare too. Bless him he really struggling to stay motivated at work this week wants to be off with me and the girls.
Mat leave yes you can have upto 12mths but there is no financial help for last 3mths but you can transfer unused mat leave to the Father I think but its still unpaid. I've been saving for the last yr so I can take 12mths off as with first she was 7.5mths old when I went back to work and I regretted it. This time the planned Csec means I will get full 12mths
Well, lo wanted to feed every 3 hours again through the night and was up bright eyed at 8am so I am knackered and aware that dfil arrives in two sleeps so will then have dh next to me in a small double bed, snoring and keeping me awake - what a lovely Christmas gift ! Needless to say, I need to get some sleep to be able to grit my teeth while dfil is here as he winds me up the wrong way at the best of times !
Right - off to start my chores. Really funny as lo has fed and fallen asleep on me while I have been typing this - he still keeps moving his mouth up and down in a sucking motion even although he is off my booby - hilarious !
Well hello there ladies. I'm here and LO is asleep next to me in her cot so I'm going to make the most of it and hopefully get to the end of posting before she wakes.
Santa - I hope you love the moby as much as I do. Let me know when it arrives. I have a nursing chair, I used it loads when LO was tiny, but only use it infrequently now, although I've started reading a story to her at night while sitting in it, so it's coming back in use. Thanks for looking at the thread anyway and the best wishes.
summer - how is the itch stuff now, is it all gone now after the piriton? I find it amazing how different babies are all very different sizes.
Candr, I've not yet let LO sleep on her front, She rolls over on her play mat, then falls asleep on her tum, I then pick her up and put her either in her cot (as I have done this morning) or in the moses basket if I'm in the front room (OH is on a work call so I've gone through to the bedroom) She stirs a little, but then goes back off. I think she would sleep well on her front, but I'm all scared - probably unjustifiably. Yep, my LO does the hand retching thing too, I'm torn between leaving her to work it out that it makes her do that, and taking her hand out for her, I've took it out most of the time, but missed it a couple of times and she takes it out herself while looking startled that she's gagging, she's not actually been sick with it though.
Jojo, yep my LO keeps trying to pull herself up from almost sitting. RE the sling, once baby is 8lbs they can go in a moby wrap, I think others have different ages on them.
falala I saw someone using a close carrier the other day while I had LO in my moby, they are very similar but I think on the close carrier the back is set up as a cross stitched in, whereas the moby is just a long piece of material and you make the cross at the back by wrapping it around you. I like the porridge sock idea. I can't use soap as it gives me eczema because it dries my skin out, but hand wash etcs are fine.
Hey snowy. Lovely that the ring was spotted quickly. I want to set a date for my wedding too, but we have other things that seem to be higher in the list of priorities, all I've said is I want to be married before LO goes to school. I would love to just elope and get married and surprise everyone, but I don't think OH would like that as he feels like he ought to have all his friends at the wedding as he's been to most of theirs.
ssmile. Mmm fluffy socks day, fab I've been working every christmas for the past 4 years, so it's really nice to actually be off this Christmas I hope none of yours are ill on the day.
Minky, I did post in the other thread how to find us for you, but I think you might have sorted it yourself judging by your post. I went to Waitrose yesterday, thankfully all the tills were open and it wasn't too bad, just the car park was ridiculous. Thanks for the advice, have read a few people saying they are having problems at this age. Will see BF HV tomorrow, and have spoken to a TT lady who will see me if they think it's necessary after seeing HV tomorrow.
RE puking babies. My LO is being more sick at the moment, and has quite brilliantly puked over daddy's head as he lifts her up in the air above him not very long after she has been fed, cue sicky over daddy! she's also puked down my top and it's gone right between my boobs!
jimmi, how is the cake? I made a cake a while ago, I don't know if anyone remembers me posting about it. Well OH cracked into it last week, I didn't cook it long enough, so it's a bit more like christmas pudding than cake, but hey, he's still scoffing it
Loves, hope you get a decent night, and your DD ear infection gets better I know I had problems with them when younger, not nice.
Christmas will be busy for us, I know jimmi asked what people were doing. We are seeing my family christmas eve into Christmas day then OH's family later on christmas day into boxing day, then home either boxing day or the day after, so lots of travelling for us. Why is it us that travels? Actually we've not asked anyone to come to us, which might be worse than the travelling so all in all it's prob the better side of things.
Wow. I got this far before LO woke.
Right fed - for now - and in her chair looking at me murmuring!
Have managed to speak to a lactation specialist (who works alongside a TT Clinic) who has recommended going to the BF group tomorrow and speaking with the HV and if they think it's a TT problem then I can ring her back to arrange an appointment. If she doesn't think it's a TT thing then at least I might have an idea of what's happening. I used to LOVE feeding LO, the past few weeks it's been stressful and not enjoyable on the whole. Heck she wants more food....
That was short lived. 2 mins on and then refusing. It's worse some times than others. Anyway, think we'll prob give her a bottle of EBM a day and see if she takes that easily. Just to be sure she's doing OK.
I have just remembered that father christmas hasn't delivered all of my LO's presents to the warehouse so one of the elves will have to wrap the other present up when it arrives in time for the proper delivery on Saturday night/sunday morning.
For all the problems I've been having recently with feeds, I've had a few days of her sleeping for 8 hours at night, so she is obviously getting enough, just struggling with feeding when she is getting it, or it feels like it. Sorry I'll stop moaning about it for now.
Still in my dressing gown, must get showered and go for a walk, it's such a lovely day out there and I want to see if I can get a place on a baby and toddler art thing in the spring - mmm baby and paint
Oh minky, we also have the sleep feeding thing, have a cute video of her in her cot 'feeding' in her sleep!
Meant to thank you 100years - your advice helped me get over here. My lo had a slight Tongue tie at birth and we went to the tt clinic to get it snipped - very simple to do. He didn't need it in the end as his tt was only minor and he was doing okay by the time we got there.
Well today I had the three at home all day again. Changed and cleaned three beds, made bread sauce for Sunday, made meringues with the two dcs, took ds1 for haircut, got my haircut, bought a new golf trolley for dh as extra pressie, had visitors, bathed three kids and ended it by getting pee'd all over from top to bottom. I am exhausted and dh has just got home after his snooker and curry night out. Storing big brownie points up here. The next few days I an really going to be chasing my tail to fit everything in - I am actually most looking forward to the 27th when all houseguests should be gone and I can have pyjama day with dh and my three babies :-)
Gosh minkyj hope you survive to make the 27th
I'd had enough by 6pm last night with two kids. Older one been in full on attention seeking mood last two days and I'm hanging I just want soooommmmeeee down time. Everytime baby settles the other one is climbing all over me, and been vnoisy so babe wakes up grrrrrrr and then is grumpy. Well we off to soft play hell today so she can run off some energy I SO hope it helps....also promised we would make Xmas biscuits together later as she loves baking.
Hope u all have gday and Xmas stress soon passes....
100years @ daddy-sick-head. I too quite often end up with a big sick reservoir in my cleavage!
Minky at your day! Reckon you've got enough points for a day off next week now!
My feet have grown 1.5 sizes since having DS. I have loads of gorgeous size 5 shoes that don't fit any more but I just can't bring myself to get rid of them.
DD is still chewing and dribbling away. I can feel the teeth and the texture of the skin over them has changed and gone all rough but they're still not through. I just leave her to retch on her fist <mean> as I reckon she'll figure it out sooner or later!
Sleep has gone completely out of the window In the course of a week, we've gone from one waking to two to three to four last night so I am bloody shattered. Typical that she should choose this week for her sleep to go downhill. It's not as though she's in pain from teeth though, just awake and grumbling then won't settle unless I feed her. She then has a very quick feed for less than 5 mins and goes back to sleep so she's obv not even really hungry I guess it's back to co-sleeping and DH relegated back to the spare room.
Ssmile, it is rough with no school/ nursery isn't it? I've got so much to do but I just end up doing it all in the evening when the DCs are in bed then being grumpy coz I've had no time to sit and relax.
DH had a whole day off to go out with his mum this week and I am just so He's also going on an extra work do next week. He keeps saying to me that I should go out but he has made no effort to get DD taking a bottle from him so I can't see it happening any time soon.
Right, DD is going to gnaw my hand off if I don't find her something to chew so happy baking/ wrapping/ shopping/ preparing to everyone!
I am going to make you all a little jealous as DS slept from 8:30 to 4, then 4:30 to 6:30 this morning! Am very but not counting it on happening again tonight!
At the pil's house, very very nice to get some me time whilst DH, mil and pil take over the DS entertainment, even sil took him for a bit yesterday. And so pleased that DS was able to sleep in the new surroundings. All in all am not too bad at the moment, but thinking of you all with sleep issues, know it well...
Better go, have to give the sil and bil a lift to pick up a car. Back later...
Ps Falala you need to force the issue with your DH, it sounds like you need a break!
100years-hope you sort bf out. I'm so impressed with everyone on here who are still bf.
Minky- wow what a day... Hope you survive till 27th - your pj day sounds lovely!!
Falala- hope you get a break soon. I was hoping for a lie in this morning but LO wasn't too good last night and both tired thus morning so ended up getting up with her. Oh now doing last minute shopping so still not had any time off but hoping for couple hours this afternoon - might watch Harry potter ladt film.
Santageek enjoy your time at in laws - sounds nice
LO is crying more recently and keeps doing sit ups and straining - not sure if exercising or gripy or constipated - but still having poos so not sure. she wouldn't settle for two hours yesterday afternoon but eventually fell asleep in my arms. Hope she settles...she still smiles every time she sees you though.
Best go she's calling out now...
Minky, you are welcome Wow busy few days for you, we are being house guests at other people's but I am (being a good daughter and) taking food for us to have on christmas eve, now I'm all growed up and responsible, I thought I ought to provide some food for us - oh heck it's tomorrow! RE the TT, we saw an NCT counsellor this morning, she will do a referral to the TT clinic in the new year as she could obviously see it and with a few of the feeding things that are happening it is most probably down to that. Even if it seems better I will probably still get it done so as it doesn't cause problems when she is a bit older. It does seem quite prominent at times.
ssmile, enjoy (as much as you can) the soft play. From what I gather a lot of people call it soft play hell, is this something to dread as LO gets older?
falala - Oh poop to you not being able to get out because DH hasn't tried to give a bottle maybe you should leave the house 5 mins before she needs feeding with a bottle ready and tell him you are just popping out and if she needs it to feed her, force him into it kind of thing. I don't know my OH will do it when I ask him to.
Santa geek, nights like that are fab aren't they. I've had a few nights of her sleeping 8 hrs, waking for a feed then sleeping another 3 or (on one v lucky occasion) 4 hours!
Thanks snowy, plan is for the new year get a referral to the TT clinic and go from there. It's not dire at the moment, possibly related to age as well as a TT thing, just got to keep on going and see it through. Like jimmi I'm doing the EAT study, so I won't be giving up the BF without a massive fight.
Well tomorrow we are buggering off to my family's house and so although I have the phone big messages are hard to do as I can't check back, so expect lots of #### things in my messages!
Feeling a lot better about the feeding thing now I have seen someone and have an idea of what it is and when things can be done. It's not causing me lots of pain (a bit of discomfort) and she is still feeding well a lot of the time, when she isn't and when she is screaming in refusal when hungry is when it's hard, but I'll just do something else with her to 'distract' her and then try again when she's calmer. It might be better with me being a bit more calm about it now I've spoken to someone.
Woke up this morning at 5am to discover her on her tummy! Don't know how long she had been like that. Fed her, put her back down and she tried to roll over again (she's in a grobag so (wrongly) thought this might hinder her rolling progress in bed) put her back on her back and she drifted off again on her back. I'll just pick her up if she rolls over now and put her on her back, but if she's doing it in her almost sleep which I don't hear I'm not going to worry about it. I wrote that, while she was waking up from a nap in her moses basket, wrote the last few words after hearing her disturb and looking in on her, stood up and she was on her tummy, I had no idea she had turned over - silent rolling little minx! Had only been like that in moses basket for 5-10 seconds due to the time it took me to write a few words and stand up to get her!
I love seeing the excitement on her face now when we hold a toy in front of her. And she loves smiling at Daddy. Much more than mummy! Can't wait for Sunday's excited smiles Not that she understands any of it yet.
Glad you feeling bit better about feeding 100 hope u have gd Xmas with rellies. If lo rolls onto front prob is all right but its SO hard to tell isn't it. My DD1 was tummy sleeper from young age and much happier baby once she could. This lo shows no interest it just makes her sick.
Softplay is one of those things you wouldnt dream of doing pre-children but on wet day its great way to wear them out unfortunately every other parent has same idea so the noise level is horrendous. My DH takes earplugs if he has to go! DD1 enjoyed it and met couple friends from school which helps. Babe showed no interest in the plastic balls. Also had hr outside in rain waterproofs but she still jumping around front room now. House is tip really want to tidy up but babe hasn't slept prop today so won't let me put her down without winging. Hohum hubbie home soon and has week off he has promised to take older one out tom for couple hrs, as I've got couple bits food to make for his families boxing day dinner.going to be long boxing day min 5hr round trip in car IF we don't get held up which we usually do..oooh joy. Be glad when get to 27 in one piece too
Forgot to say earlier that I am v impressed with Minky's day yesterday... Sounds chaotic!
100years so glad you're feeling better. Just a word of warning about tt - my DS had his done at 9 weeks (for the second time ) but it took him a further 3/4 weeks to learn how to use his 'new' tongue, so don't expect miracles overnight! But it does get better.
Snowy my DS is doing the situp strain as well! I figured he was just exercising...
Ssmile, I can't wait to do the whole soft play thing... Maybe I'm being a bit naive!
Last night at the pils, had a today when there was a big argument between mil and sil followed by one between mil and pil, meanwhile DH was nowhere in sight and I couldn't escape as I was bfing! they all made up though for a delicious gammon lunch so all's well. Staying for mil's for her bday party tomorrow then a 2hr trip to my parents' for Christmas.
%23%23%23%23%23 very quick post - thanks to all for lovely wishes - was just thinking what a wonderful group you all are and how i feel like I am talking to friends when I post on here.
Lo screamed for about an hour tonight really badly and then seemed to calm and is now sleeping after having a good belch and poo - really hoping he settles and is okay now as i have to be at waitrose at 8am for the turkey and have such a busy day ahead of me. Today was frantic but I had many blessings - dh was there to help luckily and I borrowed my mums cleaner for three hours to clean and iron for me - she works as a chambermaid in a five star hotel so I feel very spoilt tonight as even my toilet rolls have been folded down and I was half expecting to find a chocolate on my pillow tonight !
Well off to sleep - hoping that you are all receiving little blessings too that make Christmas special for you. My nine year old summed it up tonight when she said that this year we have already had the best present we could ever have - a new baby brother....
Minky I need an [aaahh] emoticon to sum up your post! I have also felt like i have found friends here And as friends, can you please send the maid round our house next?
Well as predicted LO didn't go through the night as much as yesterday, made it to 1:30am. I don't think he'll go down as easily either as he's not as relaxed as usual whilst bfing. I really can't fathom him out!
Looking forward to Christmas, I love all the present exchanging so am hopeful DS will enjoy watching it this year! btw what did you buy your Los? We only got him some small books, couldn't think of anything a 15week old needed!
Can I say thankyou too to this lovely group on here. Merry Christmas. Being able to "chat" has really helped me have a positive first 4mths with Lo after a difficult time with first DD I'm really enjoying being mum to this Lo
She did her usual up at 12-1,3,5, unsettled till now which is 6.30, I do miss having her go till 1 or 2am, as 12 is too early and she wouldn't resettle in her crib so 1am gave up put her in bed and fed again.
Oooh minkyj what a lovely "gift" someone to do ironing &cleaning I'd like that too was feeling vfrazzled by 6pm again last night as babe had grissled all afternoon, I tried to give her teetha powder as she wouldn't feed properly but wouldn't stop sucking fist either, but she was sickly 10mins later. Eventually I fed her lying on bed at 6pm and she fell asleep for 10mins which was long enough to get DD1 showered &into PJs.
santageek I don't mind softplay out of school hols as the younger ones enjoy it and are a lot quieter but in the school holidays if you still like it feel free to come collect my DD enroute
Right time to get up and survive enough day. Happy Christmas Eve all........x
Presents for lo include a new outfit for visitin rellies, bath toy, push along thing for crawling, and fisher price camera thing, the toys are for 6mths+ but that's Feb so won't be long.......
happy Christmas eve peops. I am off to do battle at waitrose now - aiming to get there for opening time and do a trolley dash for last minute bits too ! Hope you all have relaxing days x
Hurrah! LO slept from 2:30am till 7!
Happy Christmas eve! Have a good day with any last minute prep <imagines Minky doing supermarket-sweep-style shopping clearing the shelves in Waitrose>
for you all this morning
Happy Christmas eve all! Feel the same as you all and feel I have lovely friends here who have kept me sane, offered wonderful advice and made me smile and laugh no end of tomes. Thank you all
The gift of a cleaner... How lovely... But waitrose 8am Xmas eve maybe not so! And to arguing relatives whilst your bf!
Well had our first screaming and crying episode last night. LO would not settle and it turned into her screaming for ages with nothing we could to calm her. Was horrible... But as my oh said, some babies do it all the time. Managed to get a tiny dribble of calpol on and she fell asleep on oh whilst pacing the room. Then, bless her, she went 11.30 to 3.30, fed changed then 4.15 to 7.30!! And OH gave me the lie in promised so it's 9 am and I'm just about to get up!! Bliss!!
Hope screams were one off... Thinking overtired??
Santageek - glad you think the sit up strains are just exercises! It's nice to know LO is doing the same things as everyone else's LO - sit ups, finger sucking etc
Presents- we've just got her a cot side projector thing, and couple of little rattle type toys. Shes had quite a few presents off my friends so haven't gone mad. Told my dad and brother to get nice books - looking forward to reading them to her. And yes, best ever present for me is to simply spend Christmas with my lovely daughter... Still surprise myself that I can use that word!!
Right, must get up now and start Xmas eve!!
Have a good day lovely ladies...
Just checking in quickly to wish you all a lovely Christmas Eve.
Minky am totally with your DD on the LO's being the best present ever! Bless her for saying it. Am very envious of your borrowed cleaner too.
Santageek we have got LO an outfit, sleepsuits, a couple of small rattle type toys and books. His big brother has quite a bit more this year but didn't see the point of buying things just for the sake of it.
Ssmile hope your LO sleeps a bit better tonight.
Snowy hope the screams were a one off and your LO is more settled tonight.
Right off to glaze the ham. Happy Christmas Eve all.
Just popping in to wish you all a very merry Christmas and hoping all your LO enjoy their first Christmas.
Merry Christmas, may you all get a good night's sleep and a happy day.
Happy first Christmas to all the little ones and merry Christmas to all of you too.
Hope everyone has a really lovely time.
Off to try to get another couple of hours sleep before the festivities begin.
Merry Christmas everyone and god bless all the babies!
Merry Christmas everyone. And a special first merry Christmas to your LOs
Hope you all have a lovely day
Happy Christmas everyone. For the people who are having their first Christmas as parents enjoy it big time. For the people who have extended their families this year enjoy the experiences the children will have sharing Christmas with their little brother or sister.
Edith is sharing the day with her cousins and they've helped her unwrap pressies from Santa Claus.
Had a very bad night with lo, but a lovely day followed so can't complain too much!
And dh got me my very first smartphone so am very .
Hope you all had lovely days with your families.
Santa that's it now you'll never be off it now
Had a good day, ds still has loads of presents to open as he slept most of tge day and I ended up having a couple of hours kip in tge evening but dd slept through last night and has only just got up.
A bigger family day today, including a visit to the inlays for turkey curry!
Happy boxing day everyone!!!!!
This is my c25k thread for anyone that wants to join in with my new years running plan.
Now I've started a thread I'd better actually do the damn running!
Hope you have all had a great Christmas. I am breathing a big sigh as it's been lovely and no arguments or problems but I am tired. Dh took lo and me up to bed on Christmas day afternoon and tucked us in for a sleep and then took lo on boxing morning for two hours - bliss. Dh bought me so many thoughtful gifts - a kindle because I love reading and loads of cake decorating things so I can indulge my hobby.y dd1 bought me the most beautiful necklace (with help financially from dh). Had to stay awake until 12.30 to fill stockings on Christmas eve but we had told dcs that they had to wait until 9am to wake us to open stockings and bless them they waited - they actually didn't touch a thing until dh went to get them - they prefer to do the opening all of us together as a family event and we told them that lo needed to sleep. Both dcs say that although they love all their presents the bast thing ever is lo (how amazing is that). Feel so very blessed and can't believe that this time last year I remember thinking that the only thing I wanted was a baby - how lucky was I !
Tomorrow I am not getting dressed and will be parked with my dcs infront of the cinema screen at home with curtains drawn, popcorn and loads of chocolate and cuddles - hoping all my mn friends are having a wonderful day too.
I haven't popped in for ages but just wanted to say hello and Merry Christmas to you all, how time flies! Babies being born one minute and it seems like just the next that they're having their first Christmas
DD will be 15 weeks on Wednesday but it seems like she's always been here. She's kept us busy in those 15 weeks. Three trips to A&E for pooping bright red blood clots, one for taking a flying iPhone to the head, and back at the beginning of November a week in hospital on oxygen and a stats monitor for bronchiolitis - longest week of my life, not helped at all by shocking doctors ("your daughter has a heart problem ... <five hours later> ... oh did no one tell you the results? We were wrong") and DS finding a high level painkiller someone had dropped on the hospital floor and popping it in his mouth. At least the nurses were lovely.
Fingers crossed everything has been nice and calm since then ....
Christmas was fun, she wasn't at all interested in the toys though and just wanted to wave the tirn up wrapping paper around!
What a lovely Christmas Minky
I remember last year throwing up my dinner and cursing my luck to have caught a tummy bug at Christmas. I was soon corrected on that thought
Had bit of a flat Xmas. Woke up Xmas eve with a cold, went bit downhill from there as babe woke every two hrs Christmas day night, then spent 5hrs in the car as had to do DH family, then babe went down with cold too so lots snuffling& sneezing last night from her. So I feel bit of train wreck exhausted mum now. DH has vowed next yr we are doing what we want for Xmas as we feel like we spent last 2days doing stuff for everyone else when to be honest all of us have a cold and are knackered.
Hohum at least colds are very minor illness not like some which other families are facing. Close family friends lost her hubbi&kids lost their dad this year, so I feel very blessed with my two beautiful girls, but would just like some sleep please.
I shall slink off to be barrhumbug by myself....
So sorry to hear your Christmas was not great Ssmile, I hope you feel better soon. Just think you have plenty of Christmases ahead to enjoy, so just take it easy and get your dp to look after you!
And I think that's a great idea for future Christmases, I have already begun to think next year we might stay put in our house rather than travelling.
Welcome back cbear and you really haven't had it easy with lo - I remember alot of hospital panics with other two and I am sure we will have our moments with this lo but it's so hard when it happens. Hope you have got all yours done and dusted now and that's the worst over. My friend who is currently expecting number 4 (unplanned as has 3 boys but has now discovered this lo will be pink !) has been in hospital with her youngest who is a year old for more than 90 days during his first year - she has got very good at knitting !
Although I love Christmas it is a very difficult time for many. My FIL is with us this year and normally I can't wait for it to be over as we tend to wind each other up but I have just asked dh to ask him if he wants to stay for longer as he seems so low this year - my mil died on 4th jan 7 years ago and his eldest brother passed away a week before Christmas so he is quite low and not his usual self, I just can't let him go home if he wants to stay ... May regret this later but hey it's Christmas.
So, off to skink around in my pjs for the day....
Welcome back Cbear... god, sounds like you've had a really scary time, but hopefully all in the past now.
Ssmile - hope your cold goes soon, and sorry you didn't have the best Christmas.
Minky - your Christmas did sound lovely, but hope your FIL is ok, and hope he stays with you for comfort if needed.
We had a nice time... DSkids are very good and wait until we've all had showers and breakfast (and LO bathed and dressed) before opening pressies. LO had a lot of help opening her's from DSD and DSS! Unfortuately, my Dad came down with the stinking cold that everyone else has, and was so full of it on Christmas day he couldn't come, so missed out of LO's first Christmas. We did a quick visit on the day, and exchanged gifts, but LO and OH stayed in the car! He's up tomorrow with my brother and his girlfriend (who were due today but girlfriend has also got a cold... everyone's at it..!) and we'll have a second Christmas dinner with them, so he won't completely miss out.
LO had some lovely books, clothes and a few small toys... we've just gone out to get some shelves for her room now to fit them all on! She's really starting to interact well with the rattley things on the play mat, so looking forward to her playing with her new toys too. Though, her fingers and thumbs are her favourite toys
Ooh, and my friend is also having a girl after having 3 boys... but she's going in tomorrow for a planned C Section (baby breech, but also she's Rhesus D blood so her levels are high and they want the baby out ... she's managed to get to 36 weeks though, so that's good). She's so nervous after having 3 normal births... to have a C section for the fourth. Really looking forward to LO having her first proper playmate!!! Can't wait to meet her...
hiya, just a quick note..
we dont have a bath but our lo has outgrown his baby bath but far too young to shower. have seen a flexibath meant for up to 4yr olds but read bad reviews, any other suggestions please?
very greatfuly appreciated
hope you all had a fantastic christmas, bet your lo's got spoilt! (strangely 3 ppl brought our lo choc and sweets!!)
Phew, thank god that's all over!
Good to see you again Cbear, and wow, it sounds like you've had a very eventful and scary three months!
Ssmile, my Christmas was a bit anti-climactic as well; DD is hellish atm and been v hard work so I am shattered. Sorry your day was hard-going too.
Minky, that's really good of you to help your FIL like that, you're so kind! I feel a bit now as I've been moaning like crazy about my two very elderly relatives who came and stayed this year. I also have a kindle and I adore it, DH got it for me as a well-done pressie after having DD and he got me one of the posh covers with a light as part of my Christmas present so I can read in bed without disturbing DD. I actually have no room for any more books in my house so the kindle is a godsend!
Santageek, I think you're right and there's a lot to be said for staying home for Christmas. We capitulated to my mum and spent two nights at her place this year and it was too much for all of us (esp me!) Last year we only stayed for one night and it was much easier. I got v with my brother telling DS off for things that don't bother me; he doesn't have kids and clearly doesn't subscribe to my rather
lazy laissez faire style of parenting! I have marked a place on your C25K thread but I need to finish all the crap food in the house before I make a start!
Loves, we had to do Christmas in stages for the two DCs as well. DS would open one present and then wander off to play with it for half an hour and have to be persuaded to come back and open any more. The two of them got way more than we have room for and I am going to have to put some of DD's stuff in the loft until she's ready for it I think!
Snowy, my DD's starting to really interact with stuff as well now. She got a new playmat and has spent ages on it today having a whale of a time.
I know I've missed people and I'm sorry but I hope you've all had a lovely time this week. I can't believe we're already over 3months in. Just think, in another 3 months time we'll be dealing with teeth and food and the beginnings of crawling; how exciting! The best bit of my Christmas day was marking the fact that it was exactly one year since I had my BFP which was the best present that I have ever had
Cheap inflatable paddling pool from the poundshop? I bought DS one over the summer and it was tiny, not really big enough to use for a pool but certainly big enough to bath a baby in.
Would he not like the shower? I sometimes take DD in with me and so long as the spray isn't directed at her face she enjoys it, I think it's the skin-to-skin in the warm water she likes more than anything. DS used to enjoy it too.
Hi Jimmi hope you've had a lovely time and at the sweets for the babe (I bet they've found a good 'home' though ) I get in the bath with DS and DD every night which I love and means we don't need a baby bath (which always knackered my back). I've also got one of these for when I can't get in with them; both DCs have had a whale of a time in it!
Never thought of taking them this little into the shower, although I used to at the swimming pool with DS I suppose. Maybe if I'd done it more he wouldn't hate it so much now...
Didn't see cbear's message before - what a start you've had! I hope things have settled down for you now.
My mum always seems to boast about how I was washed in the kitchen sink (and slept in a drawer when visiting rellies) so that's the only thing I can suggest!
Minky you are the true spirit of Christmas, how generous!
Right, desperate for sleep so will catch up more later x
My SIS lives in OZ off rainwater they only have a shower. Her Lo is washed in sink or sat in bottom of shower can wash with watering can or just put shower on the floor or cuddle them and shower with you. We only had a shower for first 7mths of DD1 life.
Poor Lo is very full of snot, another long night ere will post more later
Lovely to hear all your first Christmas stories. Sorry to hear that some of you didn't have the greatest time. Just think, next Christmas the LOs will be over a year old and probably toddling about - can't believe it! At least they'll be a bit more interested in presents and Christmas traditions, although I guess it won't be until the next Christmas that they get really into Father Christmas, reindeers, stockings and the like. So much fun to come!
We had a really nice Christmas, and LO did amazingly well considering we spent three days with relatives, not getting home until 10/11ish at night. On two of those nights she went straight from the car seat into bed without waking up!! I must admit I was shattered by the end of boxing day though - all that socialising and trying to bat away relatives when LO was trying to sleep, as well as far too much food and drink, rather took it's toll. Having a day at home just the three of us today - bliss!
LO finally seems to be getting the idea of going to bed earlier now too - although realise this could all change any moment! She was in bed at 8.30 last night and slept until 1am, as did I, then back to bed by 1.30, so feeling much better today. She did wake up for a quick feed at 5.30 though, but then slept until 8.30 - practically a lie in!! Really hope this is the beginning of a pattern, and not just pot luck!
She's starting to really get into toys now too - which is a good job considering her Christmas hoard. It's so lovely to watch her learning. She's getting pretty good at blowing raspberries too I think next Christmas we might have to ask Santa for a new house to keep all LOs stuff in!
Good to hear things are going well in the obsidian household!
Just a quick one to say my moby wrap has arrived! Haven't quite got the hang of putting lo yet though
Hi again everyone
ssmile. Maybe I'll take ear plugs to soft play if I go, just in case! Sorry to hear about your cold.
Santageek, thanks for the word of warning re TT. I shall bear it in mind. I'm going to have a think about the running. my running has been fitful at best due to a bad heal, but I might start the plan and see how I get on. I can do just over 2K now, but it's slow and getting from there to further is not happening at the moment. When you get the hang of the moby I'm sure you will love it.
We got LO a few bodysuits in size 3-6 months as we need them, nearly about to go into them! A couple of soft toys, a body warmer thing for swimming and a book for me to read at bedtime Didn't go mad, didn't see the point, had lots of nice things of everyone else too, nothing too big
Cbear, sorry to hear of everything you have been through. Hope things are getting better now.
Jimmi, I've put LO in the shower with me at swimming when I go. The first bit under the water is a bit but she is fine with it.
Sorry it's not a catch up for everyone, I've just had a read through and sounds like a few up and down Christmases.
We had a mega busy day on Christmas day, woke up at 6:30 by my Mum as my nieces were already awake and wanted to open their presents. Then it was non stop the whole day. Was lovely, but very busy. Then in the evening we headed up to OH's parents for a more relaxed boxing day. Had a lovely time at both places, but total polar opposites in how busy they were, still that's a good thing.
LO is a bit unsettled at the moment after about 5 or 6am, she used to sleep quite well, but is getting a little less so at the moment and I was awake 3 times this morning between 5 and 8! Ah well.
Waiting on next week for the referral re the TT, have read a few more things and there are quite a lot of things that could (not definite) happen if it's left untreated, and so I would rather not risk having problems with those things in the future when it's harder to deal with then. The feeding isn't getting worse and feels a bit better now, but I have a slightly sore nipple, something I never had even when she was weeny tiny and first feeding. But I'm hard as nails me and I'll be OK (until it gets properly painful )
We got DD a ragdoll (or whatever the name is for a fabric doll) which she enjoys chewing, a teether rattle, a singing bear, and clothes which she needed and I wrapped up as gifts. She's an odd size for clothes I think. She's mostly out of first size now and in 0-3 months but some of her 0-3 are too small, some are too big, and some fit just right. She's in first size and 0-3 for vests but 3-6 for sleep suits and a mix of 0-3/3-6 for daywear. She's really long in the body and different shops seem to have different ideas on what size 0-3 is!
She's teething with a vengeance - one cheek is bright red, drooling, and that awful high-pitched slightly screechy teething cry I added to it by getting her second lot of jabs yesterday afternoon, she's three week behind on them so these were the twelve week boosters, one in each leg.
What has everyone got planned for New Year?
Hope everyone enjoying their Chrismas week (I enjoy this bit probably more than Christmas day... !)
Sorry, can't reply to everyone, as just quickly catching up... but yes, Cbear - my LO is in alsorts of different sizes, depending on the shop. She's just about getting too big for her 0-3 months sleepsuits and vests, but the 3-6 months we have (presents!!) just look SO big next too... but she does seem to be growing quite a bit recently, so think it won't be long she'll be in them. She does wear the odd 3-6months top and leggings.
Well, my friend had her little girl yesterday, Eva Rose, at 6lb 3 oz - not bad for 36 weeks. But, she had to go to intensive care for a c-pap for her breathing (which she did come off 2am last night) and also have a drip as she wasn't feeding. However, my friend has managed to feed her today. I was quite emotional yesterday, as my friend was texting saying she'd hardly seen her as she was whipped away to SCBU with her husband, and as she'd had a C Section and was sick as her blood pressure had dropped, she didn't get to see her much. I just thought back to when my LO was born, and the thought that I wouldn't have her next to me after the birth would have devastated me... so really felt for my friend. BUt, hopefully now she can be up and about and therefore can be next to her LO. Can't wait to see her, hoping I can go and visit tomorrow. Was fun shopping today for some newborn clothes again!
Ummmm, New Year - well, I think OH, LO and I shall be having a quiet one in!! Whether I can stay up till midnight will be a bit of a test! Might open a bottle of cava though! Kids will be with their mum, so it'll be a quiet one. TBH, haven't been out on NYE for a few years now, as the only option here is the local pub, or one of us has to drive. But, can't take LO to the pub on such a rowdy night, so definitely be indoors!! But, we'll have the woodburner on, so nice and cosy!
Right, LO waking up ... best go!!
Hi all, missed loads of posts so just a general hope you all had a good Christmas. Nice to see you back Cbear sorry you had a rough time. Good to see lots of you have babies starting to sleep better. We managed to get better sleeping habits when at my parents so have continued them at home - fingers crossed. DS got more gifts than DH and I from grandparents. We know we are very lucky there although some of the clothes - dear god they are awful! He has started to chat more now and is reaching for toys but still prefers to chew fingers and is over a stone in weight. Hope you all have a great year, will be strange saying I had a baby last year!
wow cbear sorry to read you've been having a bad ime of it, wouldnt want to be in your shoes, here's to a better 2012 for you!!!!!!
thankyou all on teh suggestions! our shower is crap tho, it was here when we moved in and is really old, you can either have it scorching hot (hurts when you get in but after a minute its ok) or stone cold (the kids have very quick showers in this setting) so dont fancy holding lo in that. i've looked at new showers a few times but dh insists ours is fine- the hot setting is not hot to him. one day I'll call out a plumber myself to get it sorted.
good thinking with the bottle of cava, it's a few years since ive been botherd by nye, prob cuz im usually working, would rather be tucked up in bed! dh is going out with a few ppl from work. i could go, but as i said, would rather b at home.
santa sleeping in a drawer sounds so cute, hope you have photos to show your lo's when theyre older!
dh got me a flip camcorder for christmas (sounds like us mummys were very spoilt), put xmas footage onto dvd but it wont play in the dvd player-any tips please? it only seems to want to play on the computer but i want to send a copy to pil who dont have a computer
snowy thats one of your (well, my anyway) worst fears when giving birth. luckily she's doing ok now- huge relief
Wow lots of different experiences over xmas!
Funny to think this time last year we were/about to get pg
yes, we found out about this lo with a very faint positive line on a test on boxing day last year
anyone else thinking about when to wean yet?
after following a curve just below the 98th centile our lo dropped to 91st centile at last weigh in, now wakes most nights for playtime and watches us eat while shoving his fists into his mouth. i know now is too soon tho (although i started our eldest 2 on baby rice at about 16weeks), everyone says wait til 6months now. will c if weigh in is open next wed to c which curve he's on and speak to a hv.
CBear, I think we will probably be asleep on NYE when it turns to next year! I can't imagine anything happening for us. But I'm fine with that, I've always preferred spending Christmas with family and that than drinking/doing stuff on NYE.
snowy, 6lb3 for a 36 weeker is fab, my LO was 6lb9 and she was 41wks! Glad she managed to get off the Cpap quickly, that's good.
jimmi, I have asked OH about the DVD thing and there are a lot of different things that it could be, he went through a couple of things and they all sound complicated. One of them is that some computers won't write a DVD that can play on a DVD player, another is that the disc is still 'open' and needs to be finished otherwise it won't be read, like I said complicated and he said he would need to know more about how it was written! Our LO also watches with interest when we are eating and her fists are always in her mouth!
Loves I actually found out I was pregnant on Christmas day last year!
Just had the 16 week jabs. She was fine, cried a little while it was happening, but normalised within a minute. Hopefully as they are just boosters of everything she has had in the past she will be OK.
Hair drama(in a it's really not a drama way), I want blonde hair again properly now. The only trouble is the time it's going to take at the hairdressers (and cost) I just don't want to have to keep doing in my hair rede or purple or brown forever which is what is going to happen if I don't go back to a blondish colour.
Got a load of money of the PIL for Christmas (well more than I expected) so I can go shopping which will be fab. I also had a bit of money for my birthday earlier in the month, which I spent yesterday on a sewing box, pin cushion, and tape measure from John lewis in this pattern (that's the sewing box I got. I want the craft bag next, but they didn't have it in the store and it's out of stock at the moment, but I'll keep an eye on the website and probably order it [old woman emoticon]
It's film afternoon with OH this afternoon
Quick post to say I have hair drama too! DH keeps asking me when I'm going to get it done, but it takes so long and I have to feed lo every two hours!
Nothing for new years except sleep.
I'll catch up later a bit more...
Bah humbug to NYE; I haven't bothered since before DS was born coz I just get bored of waiting at a busy bar to get served. We'll prob just get take-away and go to bed at 10.30 like we have the last two years! Last year my mum said that they would babysit for us so we could go out this year but that was before I'd told them that I was pg. I did contemplate reminding her and pretending that we expect her to honour the offer but I thought that was a bit mean
I am planning our first proper night out though as our best present by far was £100 worth of vouchers for Fifteen in Newquay (the Jamie Oliver restaurant) from my MiL. I was actually so overwhelmed when I opened her gift that I started to cry!
100years, I did the test on Christmas day too. I had to pretend that I was going out to the car to get DH on his own to show him the stick without any of my family noticing. It was so exciting, having a little secret. We kept going off into corners and giggling
Jimmi, I'm not weaning until 6 months. I remember being so excited with DS that we started at about 23 weeks and then I realised that, actually, it's a massive PITA cleaning up after a baby's meal and so I'm leaving it as late as poss this time around. We did BLW last time and I am too lazy to make purees and introduce one foods at a time so I will be doing the same again. I like the whole flinging a couple of lumps of food on a tray for them and letting them figure it out for themselves approach!
I use flipcams at school and have the same problem sometimes. The files tend to be in an odd format and I have to convert them so they'll work on the school's Mac and then burn onto a DVD. I have some piece of software that came with the school's video cameras but it's v time consuming. Sorry, that's not much help really; hope you get it figured out!
Oh god, I really need a haircut. I can't afford my usual dye job so I'll have to do that myself but I am going to have to go for a cut very soon. What to do with the babe though? Maybe DH can just walk up and down the high street with her until I'm done.
Yes, I'm not sure about when to do the weaning thing. I think if you ask a HV about it, they'll say wait till 6 months because that's what they have to say now... unless you have one that doesn't buckle to trends. It's still 4 months in Ireland and the US. She doesn't look like she needs anything at the moment, so I'll try and go on gut instinct, although this being my first, I don't really know what I'm looking for!! ALthough a friend got me Baby and Toddler meal planning books for Xmas, so I'll read those with interest!
Re everyone and hair... can you try mobile hairdressers that come to your house?? I'm really lucky in that a friend from work does mine (I worked in an FE College that has a hairdressing dept, and I'm really good friends with the head of hairdressing.... and bless her, she comes to my house to do my roots - otherwise I'd be grey... have been since going more and more grey since the age of 21 ) But, a mobile hairdresser might be the answer?
Been to an aquarium with the kids today, and the LO loved being in the cafeteria watching the world and it's pram go by (there were more prams in there than mothercare!! Think it's the only place to take kids around here obviously!! The swimming baths are all closed over the Christmas break for carbon reduction work!!! Instead of doing them one place at a time, the council have decided to do all of them at the same time... was hoping to take LO for her first swim!!) But she loved the noise and people, it was fun to watch her take it all in!
Seems like we'll all be in this NYE then... but then, with 3 to 4 month olds, where else would we be!?! No different to most years for us...
I found out I was PG on 3rd Jan... didn't dare test before then and I actually thought I definitely wouldn't be as I had PMS pains and really thought it was a normal month!!! The best shock in the world for me to find the two blue lines! Wow, can't believe it's almost a year ago.
Ooh, and Falalala... vouchers for Fifteen is a brilliant present... hope you have a fab night whenever you go!
Amazing gift... When are you going? You will have to report back on the food!
I have now purchased some running shoes, so am hoping to get fit soon... Have never run before but the lady in the running shop said I had a good gait
Still having issues with lo waking every. 3 hours at night. Given that it takes an hour to feed and settle, it means I'm only getting two hours of sleep each time. I'm getting very very tired
DS managed to go 10 days without pooping. He finally pooed today thank goodness but it was quite thick
Snowy any tips on taking younger ones swimming? I've never done it before and haven't been swimming myself for a long time.
My top tip on taking Lo swimming is take your dressing gown or huge towel as it can take a while to get little wiggly babes dry&dressed meanwhile mums get freezing! We also got a baby wetsuit jacket as unless the pool nice 32c babes get cold blue lips fast, the wetsuit wrap is deadeasy to put on and means we can stay in 20-30mins with out shiving.also you need baby swim nappies. We have wetsuit swim nappy pants but some pools insist on disposable nappies too. Gd luck, enjoy it.
We slowly on mend here. Baby has hacking cough and last two days on multiple doses of calpol using oral syringe and mini drops we have mastered the art of getting 2.5ml in with min spit back. Poor Lo has needed it she was moaning with discomfort and struggling to feed. If cough doesn't improve will be off to Drs as her ears been red waxy too but have lessened today. I've virtually lost my voice though and the two hourly wake ups been taking its toil.
Hope u all have gd new years, ours will be quiet early night! We were very luckly to be in Sydney Suburbs (OZ) 3yrs ago where our then 20mth old DD stayed uptill midnight running around a local park in the dark it was 20c, but the last 3have been at home early to bed.
Won't be weaning till babe ready 6mths+ and would like to do more baby led weaning as gd friend of mine did it with her second with great success.
Fifteen wow very jel
I was given a weaning talk about 3 weeks ago when they came to weight him. Can't even begin to think about giving him anything yet.
I managed to get my hair cut by getting a dry cut instead.
I had a miscarriage before having ds, infect I didn't actually have axperiod inbetween. I had a scan on dec 15th to make sure everything was ok and it seems I was probably already pg again by then but only just which is why they couldn't see it.
I used to work in a pub and also worked in a hotel over new year, suppose seeing lots of people getting pi55ed takes the fun off it. Also last year I was working till 3am, and already suffering from HG and so had to rush out a few times to puke! NICE!!!
falala, nice to know of another Christmas day tester, was the best present in the world for me last year.
snowy, tbh I was thinking of looking for a mobile hairdresser, but it's knowing where to get that recommendation from. Might FB it and ask if anyone locally knows of anyone, would make it so much easier. Shame I do know someone who does hair and beauty, but she lives hours away! Can't wait to do aquariums and museums with LO.
Santa, great on getting the shows I take my LO swimming each week - I do pay for 'lessons' but afterwards I wrap her(quite snuggly) up in a towel, get myself dressed then get her dressed, she has usually wriggled herself dry by this point! Makes it a bit easier and the changing rooms are so warm that I don't worry about her getting cold.
Loves sorry to hear about the MC before DS, can't imagine what that was like, I had some bleeding, but thankfully was nothing, awful worry though, can't quite think how it would have been if something had happened.
3 times I've fed LO now in the past 1hr 45! Put her down 3 times now! Not sure how tonight is going to go, never mind, another restful day tomorrow with the third of the Bourne trilogy to watch after watching 2 of them this afternoon with OH. LO slept a lot of the day, must have been the jabs, she slept on me, which I loved, just sitting there and enjoying sleepy cuddles.
100yrs, have just come downstairs after long session trying to get LO to self settle to find DH watching 3rd Bourne film - he loves them.
Thanks for swimming tips guys as am planning to start that in new year, can you wear shorts in pool as can't be bothered to get waxed.
Have mobile hairdresser who comes round and does good dry cut for 9 bucks which is great and she loves babies.
Have started putting LO in high chair and iving him tastes of non salty sauces from my finger, quite likes garlic ones but showed no interest in the piece of pasta I gave him. We aso want to do BLW and got a book by Jill Rapley which is really good. We were told 6m unless they were hungry babies but my fried said everyone in her baby group did t at 4m as they al got a bit competative. THink the point of BLW is the baby lets you know when they are ready.
Have a great NYE all what ever you are doing - board games and virgin cockails for me and pg friend while the boys prob get a bit pissed.
%23%23%23%23%23 not time to reply individually but wanted to wish everyone a happy new year for 2012. We have friends coming over for dinner and drinks - they live in the same road and next door to their parents (how lucky) so on-hand babysitting ! They are bringing the main !
I weaned dd1 at 12weeks (you did that ten nine years ago!) and ds at 16 weeks (6 years ago !). I wish I could with lo as he now wakes every 1.5 -3 hours to be fed day and night - little nibbler ! It is alot of phaff though. Have got the new high-chair - gave the mothercare manager a look of disgust when he said you couldn't use them before 6months - it's the same design I had ten years ago with other dcs and they used to say to wean at 3 months then. It reclines more than his car seat for goodness sake! Anyway, have a great night ladies - I am wondering howany of you will be pregnant in 2012 with your next Los - this time I know it won't be me but one or more of you will be I bet - could it be you ? (lucky lady whoever it is) sending blessings and much love and good wishes to you all. X
Pmsl I know it won't be me - mental note to sort out implant just to make sure. Two is enough for me. If we were well off, had a bigger house, I didn't need to work then maybe it would be different.
Dd (3.9) was given baby rice probably 3/4 weeks before 6 months. Hv idea due to various things. Actually took me a couple if days to do it cause I'd got 6 mths in my head and it felt wring iykwim.
The nursery nurse did tge weaning chat with me recently, think it to catch people before they wean at 4 mths, even that felt wrong just talking about it. I don't know if it's cause I won't have another baby or because of what went on while I was pg or just plain psb ( precious second born) but <stamps foot> he's a baby he drinks my milk my eats food!
I've never told a mil story cause I a very lucky, mind isn't barking plus I dint see them that often. but now I have one . Just before Xmas they came to deliver gifts and whilst we were all talking I saw her out her finger in her tea and put into ds mouth . 15 wks ffs why tge he'll would he want sugary tea off her unwashed finger?!? It took all my strength not to jump over tge table, save my sone and drop kick her arse out of my house. My inner lioness is very sensitive at tge moment. I managered a, hopefully, joking tone of 'MIL no, mil's full name not tea!'. So you can assume from that I don't have any current plans to wean early
Won't be me either - have very effective birth control in the shape of a four month old!
Thanks for tips re swimming. Want to try it soon - did you do lessons with lo or just go in a free swim session?
Found out I was pg on new years day, when the boiled eggs I'd done for brekkie made me feel ill. Did the test the next day cue three months of all day sickness!
Candr, I've worn cycling shorts when swimming before, so long as you are decent I don't think it matters a jot what you wear. I think I'll be looking for a BLW book at some point, nice to have recommendations.
Minky, yep I think it's daft saying 6months on the high chairs. Some babies obviously wean earlier and can sit up properly whether aided or unaided before then!
Loves at ur MIL with tea, that's a great first thing to give them to taste NOT, sugar and caffeine and milk!
Anyway. I'll come slightly clean with you lot, if I was to be one of those lucky ladies that Minky was on about it: a) wouldn't be a surprise, b) would be very very lovely and c) would be pretty much how we have 'planned' things. I'd very much like another one, or I should say we would very much like another one, and ebf isn't 100% effective so we are seeing what happens. Gave the doc a shock when I didn't want any advice off her re contraception at my 8 week check I have poas twice already just in case, and have my smear in 2 weeks so will be poas again before that. But I am ebf and so it might not happen for ages(or even at all-you never know with this stuff), but we're happy whatever happens, very very happy with just our gorgeous DD but 2 would be wonderful too. We're just seeing how it goes, not ttc but also not not ttc iykwim. Well I suppose we kind of are ttc, but not in the proper sense of the word! Btw i didn't want to say anything for fear of having been outed, but things might or might not happen so no point in hiding my wishes.
Next topic. I've joined sciencegeek/santageek in the running thread and have done my first couch to 5k plan run
lovesbloomin - agreed that your mil crossed a line! But it reminded me that my mum used to put milky tea in bottles for me even before I was weaned. Sleeping in drawers, washing in sinks, drinking tea... Explains a lot about me Obviously the older generation have v different ideas on weaning.
Santa, we have lessons for our LO but then it's more so I know how to get her swimming eventually, at the moment it's a bonding thing, eventually the things we're doing will click into her swimming. Love the idea of her never using arm bands and swimming before school because I love swimming and am a very good swimmer myself
Bloody hell 100, you've got back on the wagon fairly sharpish good luck!
I didn't get any contraceptive advice at my 8 week appt, just lots of stuff about pnd as I'm on the brink! Think I've made it past the danger period though. Perhaps should go back to docs at some point though. Need to do a smear as well
I need a smear too
Sorry about the terrible typos in my post
Re swimming I used to take dd to baby sessions, means you don't have to worry about being crashed into as much.
Hope you continue to stay well and don't get PND, but do keep check on it. Yep, well if I say it was actually since 4 weeks would that shock you even more?
'Tis I, geekmum in a new guise!
Good point Loves about the swimming... I'll look into what my local leisure centre offers. Off out for lunch now!
See I never worry about smears, I must just have a good way to relax during them and I've never had a painful one. Also my sweeps when pg never bothered me. Maybe I'm just a nutter.
Yep geekmum indeed have a good lunch.
100years - smears never bothered me either, and after the amount of internal checks I had whilst in labour including the one for a male doctor who had hands the size of footballs , I'll never be bothered anyway!!! My first sweep was uncomfy, but the second one I was prepared for so not so bad!
Good for you on the "ttc / well, not not ttc" front!!! Having another this year would be a nice close age gap. Good luck... in the sort of quiet way!!
Don't think I'll be joining you on the ttc front though. If we were to have another it would have to be this year (I'm 41 in April... don't want to leave it much later...) but I'm SOOOOO happy with this LO and feel it's enough for me. We have 2 other kids anyway (well, they're OH's kids, but my step kids now) so house is rather full and busy!! If we had a 2nd / 4th there would be no room!! OH keeps saying he wouldn't mind a fourth, but it's me that looks after them all, and I'm pretty happy with 3 in the week, and 1 on the weekend!!!! But.... never say never I guess... just have to think about it.
Quick question on the swimming front - and thank you for all the advice - if you go on your own, where do you put the baby whilst you are getting changed yourself???
Loves - ARGGHHH on the mil front. A friend of mine went mad with her's once, as she gave her 6 month old meat and gravy - and we're talking older generation type gravy, i.e. full of salt! My friend went mad... but the LO is a healthy 11year old now so no harm done!
Minky - we've had a high chair for a few weeks now. Got the Chicco Polly one, and it reclines right back so suitable for newborns, although doesn't say that in the shop (but shows it on the internet!!). TBH, she sits in it in the semi and upright positions now. We've used it so she can sit at the table when we're all eating and "be with us" rather than in her bouncy chair on next to the floor! Also, when I'm cooking she's at my level. But, she won't stay in it too long without distractions so it just about works for a meal length, then she wants out. But at least she's getting used to it, so that when she does need it for feeding hopefully she'll be well used to it. A couple of friends came up this week with their 2 year old and it worked a treat for her too!
Well, just written in all the birthdays in the 2012 calendars... can't believe it's a new year tomorrow! So... a very HAPPY and HEALTHY NEW YEAR everyone, here's too 2012 being full of crawling, weaning, teething, walking and the odd word here and there by the end of it!!!! Hope we can all share in the fun of our LOs turning into one year olds and all the fun this year will bring...! Have a good, quiet, probably uneventful NYE tonight... and here's too no hangovers on NYD!!! and to you all..!!
Oh... and geekmum.. hope you enjoyed your lunch out!!
IIRC the Jill Rapley BLW book says to wait until 6mo as that's when you can safely give them any sort of food and you don't have to just stick to veg and fruit. Also I think the gag reflex is less strong by then so they're less likely to gag on their food and they'll be sitting up properly so less likely to choke. This said, my mum was putting baby rice in my milk at 6 weeks-ish and I seem to be OK. The main reason I'll wait until 6months is because I'm lazy!
I reckon that DH and I will set ourselves a diet target and have the meal at Fifteen as a reward. Maybe when we've each lost a stone or have got to the end of C25K. Then if one of us is holding the other up then we'll have a real license to nag! Or maybe if one of us reaches the goal and has to wait longer than two weeks for the other then they're allowed to take someone else instead!
at your MIL Loves. I'd go ape if anyone did that! DS is 3yo and I don't give him tea ffs (I figure why give an already bonkers 3yo caffeine?)
I haven't got around to taking DD swimming yet, mainly because I hadn't got a swimming costume of my own, but she's also got one of the neoprene baby-wrap things and a matching swim nappy. I had it for DS for our arctic local pool and it's brilliant.
Our local children's centre runs baby swimming classes for £2 a week at the local pool (much cheaper than the £4 it normally costs) so we're starting those again in a couple of week's time. I would love to do the Swim Academy classes that run near me too but they are £££ and I've heard less than stellar feedback.
Our two local pools have got brilliant facilities and have a couple of family rooms that are much bigger than normal cubicles. They have changing tables so I just stash the babe on there. When they're busy I just used to put DS on the floor on a towel or, if the floor was really dirty, on the bench and then stand in front of him whilst getting dressed to sort of wedge him in iyswim.
I would love to have another DC - although not this soon. Like Loves, if I had more money, a bigger house and DH was able to give up work entirely then we'd go for DC3 but I can't see that happening any time soon.
Geekmum, hope you had a nice lunch. I am awaiting counselling for my PND (had it last time round, suffered with depression in the past so it was pretty much a given that it'd happen this time too). I hope you're OK? How's the BFing going BTW?
Thanks snowy. I remember my sister telling me about the MW having her whole hand up inside me when she was waiting for my next contraction to check how dilated I was at one point! LOL I didn't even realise! I usually leave LO on a travel changing mat on a towel on the floor while I'm getting ready, but I've never been to a dirty swimming pool yet, so I'm fine with that. Until she rolls both ways I'm OK, but even then I'll just make sure she is within the towel boundaries.
falalala I hope you get your counselling soon, you've been waiting ages haven't you?
We've done Bourne 3 this afternoon - I know that's not it's name, but why follow convention and call it the right name.
Changed LO this afternoon, she did a stinky fart and I thought ash poo time soon, put her down on her play mat, she rolled over then pooed! And she also had a bit of sick too, so gave her a bath, I reckon the baby bath is going to be defunct very soon, she was kicking the ends like mad, laughing and squealing though while doing it.
Has any one else's LO started making new noises like a kind of squealing noise? She's found all these new sounds and it practicing them a lot!
Just checking in to wish you all a happy new year and for those of you who are drinking for the first time in a whole year tonight take it slowly as boy when I had my glass of wine last week I felt the effects straight away!
Aunt flo has come to visit me with a vengeance. Bitch! I too need a smear so probably will arrange to have one in 2 weeks now.
Loves I know how you feel about MIL. When DS was 5months MIL tried to shove some cake in his mouth. Luckily he had no clue as to how to chew and swallow so he spat it out. I held my tongue and fumed at DH when they left. Anyway my parents are back from their hold now.
Have a good night everybody!
Welcome to 2012.
Happy new year all.
3 mins in and I started feeding!!!!
Happy New Year all!
Fell asleep in 2011 and woke up in 2012! It's like time travel...
Happy new year to you all!
Can't remember who asked now but the pnd is fine, I was never officially diagnosed with it. Hv and doc seemed reluctant, forming sentences like this all the time: "well I don't think you have depression but..." and "i don't want you to think we're saying you've got pnd..." whilst giving me leaflets, talking to me about counselling and signing me up to infant massage classes for mothers with pnd. I think they were worried that if they labelled it I would fully succumb to it... Falala I hope you get what you need soon. Both my parents have had depression and it can be very cruel. But they are both out the other side and as I'm sure you know, it does get better with time and support.
The bf is going really well, mainly because I haven't had any weighings or appts to stress me out over the Christmas period! Goodness knows if he's putting on weight but he's a very contented baby!
100 my LO is doing lots of squeals, started this week! Going 'aaaaahhhhhhh' and high pitched 'eeeeaaah'! So cute and really like he's trying to talk to us!
Summer bad luck with aunt flo
Anyway hope you all had fab evenings one way or another. X
Happy new year all!!
Geekmum- glad the feeding going better and if LO is happy and content what more can you ask for?
To all those with pnd or maybe pnd, hope you get support that you need... Sounds like you're coping but it's not fair if they can't get you the support you deserve. I've just had pretty big mood swings that I'm just about learning to cope with and control... Not been fun and phew for a tolerant and understanding OH...
100years - yes my LO is squealing and gabbering away loads now, sometimes I think she's trying to sing... But then I find that I'm (and oh) am constantly singing her... Such ad my running commentary of what I was doing in the shower set to a song yesterday... She was in her bouncy chair in the bathroom with me and I just like her to know I'm still there even if in the shower... All together "and now I'm putting shampoo on my hair to scrub scrub scrub it clean, ho ho ho..."
Off to see my friend and her newborn this afternoon she's finally on the ward with her now!
Oh and nye spent watching second lord of the rings film, followed by asleep by 10.45 ... !! Third film today...
Happy New Year may it bring sleep dust to all and leaner fitter mummies.
I was the only one awake at midnight in our hse as Lo woke 11.40pm fed and resettled vfast, but our hse backs onto local park with lots of fireworks going off so I listened to those before resettling for sleep. We all bit brighter today after pretty rough week of bugs. Hopefully turning the corner Lo not coughing so much so hoping she on mend.
We had couple weeks of lots noise from Lo, whining sounds &chatting wants to join in not be left in her bouncy chair but this wk vsubdued as poorly.
Aunt Flo not been since I had whole month of bleeding post coil its settled down and nothing just had few days of feeling vhormonal.
I admire those signin up to the running. I'd love to but boobs n back won't let me so will join u in spirit on my bike instead "on cycle 10miles goal". I used to do that oneway to work preBaby so should be able to do it time &health permitting
Sorry if missed anyone personally my brain vfoggy after wk of two hourly wakeups &bugs.
Have gd day! Off out for Seafront walk with grandparents in a mo.
argh smear, thanks for reminding me!!!!
minky tho we're not weaning yet (started our eldest 2 at 16weeks, 4 and almost 6years ago) lo has started sitting in high chair wen we eat, he looks happy in it tho it doesnt recline
lo got a christmas present of a 9-12month outfit- tho there is some growing room, scarily as he's 16weeks old, it fits!!!!! 1 tall boy!
Happy new year everyone.
Yep, DD is full-on chatty now. She's also just discovered how to blow raspberries and is rolling full 360s too which is very cute and awesome and everything but the last few days she's decided to practise her new skills at 6am, grrr. And I'm putting her into her cot feet to foot at her bedtime then when I come to bed she's either worked her way right up to the top of her cot and has jammed her head in a corner or is lying horizontally across it. Daft baby.
DS was about this age when I left him in the living room while I was in the kitchen, came back and he'd disappeared. Cue panic and me generally freaking out, trying to work out how someone could've managed to get in my house and kidnap him only to discover that he'd wriggled himself right underneath the sofa
Made it to just past midnight last night then went to bed. The diet re-starts today and the running starts tomorrow.
Ssmile good luck with the cycling!
Jimmi my LO is still in 0-3months clothes, he won't be in any bigger for a long while yet!
Feral at DS being under the sofa! My LO isn't yet rolling but his body strength is evident - he keeps his whole body straight when we lift him up - pretty impressive!
Really trying to commit to the exercise - I've got my second run tomorrow! Am feeling the aches today.
%%%%% Happy new year everyone. Shattered tonight as we had a dinner party at ours last night and I didn't get to bed till 2.30am. Today has been relaxed but I did a big roast and have another one to do tomorrow for family joining us so lunch for seven. Will be glad to get the decs put away after tomorrow and start getting cleaned up a bit when the kids go back to school on Wednesday.
I too bought the chicco highchair - really lovely and padded and reclines well. Lo still cluster feeding alot so am in bed trying to get some extra zzz tonight !
My smear is booked for January - ooh I can't wait ! Had to have an internal ultrasound a few weeks ago to check for an ovarian cyst so compared to that should be okay.
Lo making loads of noises - so vocal and very cute because he smiles at the same time so it feels like proper chatting !
100 - lovely - good luck.
On the sweet tea front, that's awful but doesn't surprise me. People just don't think and seem to believe that babies are public property ! My sisters 21 year old boyfriend pit his unwashed thumb in lo mouth several times a few weeks ago and we had to politely explain that it wasn't a good idea seeing lo was getting everything sterilised - I would have gagged at the idea of his dirty finger in my mouth, let alone lo ! He just didn't think or even realise ! My veggie friends were livid when their family gave their kiddy a bacon sandwich !
Well, hope you all enjoy your holiday tomorrow
I've been looking into high chairs - any tips? We went to John Lewis and mothercare last week but they hardly had any on display (two in each shop ) so am still none the wiser. Want to start getting lo used to it!
Find one that fits easily in your kitchen. We were given one by well meaning great grandparents with first DD, we bloody hated it! Was huge, all singing one nightmare to clean. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. This time around I've got very simple wooden one secondhand fits at normal chair table height&footprint, easy to clean
I used the Annabel Karmel cooking book last time found it easy simple recipes which we all ate too. But I'd really like to avoid mush stage more in favour of blw but need to find out more.
Kiddicare.com stock a range of chairs and got sale at moment.
Happy new year!!!
Havent been on for quite a while as been hectic last couple of weeks!
LO is now 13 weeks weighing in at 16lb 7oz! grown out of his moses basket already so a quick dash to Ikea the other day and rearranging my bedroom and he is now fast asleep in his cot for the first time! LO has been sleeping well in the night 9-6 which is great but now i have said it he will prob wake up loads tonight lol
Havent caught up on all the post yet but hope everyone had a great 1st christmas and a lovely new year x
Sorry AF has visited you summer, first one? Probably pretty horrible.
Seems like there are a few really trying to talk babies in here It's very lovely hearing these little sounds.
feral, wow to the 360 rolls, my LO in't yet really trying to roll back onto her back once she's over, she's too busy turning in circles on the floor and trying to shuffle herself, she's getting good at it. But she can lift her head off the floor so she is practically vertical in her top half now! Very strong. And she's 'standing' loads, pulls herself up when we hold her hands!
Sorry it's not a full catch up. Have read through though.
Getting LO weighed and hopefully referred on Friday, will see how that goes. On the whole the feeding seems to be a lot better though Still think it's a good idea to get it sorted though.
She's started waking loads in the night, it's back to her being 6 weeks old again! I'm
mega a bit tired from it. She had been going for a lot longer, including a few nights on the bounce where she slept for 8hours +, but now it's back to 3 hrs, 3 1/2 hrs max before the next feed! Ah well, ended up going back to bed this morning once OH was up and about
Anyway, I think it's bedtime for me, before she wakes at midnight. (Going on the last 2 nights)
Hmm well I posted that message and promptly heard LO grizzling. Still at least I wasn't woken from sleep and maybe this will last her a couple of hours. [fingers crossed emoticon]
Geekmum, we had one of the big padded ones for DS as a freebie from a friend but I found it a massive PITA cleaning all the food out of the creases on it so we've got one of these as it's so easy to clean and it pushes in really neatly under our table. I also really liked the fact that it doesn't have a tray so your DC is eating off the table from the start which suited us for BLWing.
Ssmile the Gill Rapley book on BLWing is pretty good. I have a copy that you can have if you want to have a read; PM me your address if you'd like it as I don't need it again (it's all pretty intuitive really but reading the book gave me the confidence to try it). I might get Rapley's recipe book as well though for a bit of inspiration. Also this was a great site when I weaned DS and I think is the one done by MNer Aitch. I loved BLWing and really enjoyed being able to share my food with DS right from the start.
Morning all. Glad everyone is settling into the new year.
DD is still forgetting her time zones and waking up at 5am talking to herself trying to wriggle her swaddled arms out to have a chew on her hands. The past few days have been dribbley and I am certain a tooth will appear in the next month! I gave her a gum rub the other day and she kept doing the old granny mouth sucking gums thing for about 10 mins after! She has yet to roll over properly. She's done a few flips from front to back on the bed but nothing else and she is nowhere as active as DS who was wriggling his feet to move himself from bottom of cot to top at the age of 8 weeks!
I thought AF had come about 3 weeks back but it wasn't anything major so I don't think it was. So I guess officially this is the first and it's quite heavy although not as bad as having lochia!
DD is having giggle time with DS quite a bit now where da laughs and she follows with a very long laugh and giggle and lots of big smiles.
Our high chair is in the shed still (we don't have a loft as we live in G/F maisonette). I think it was a Chicco one. I wanted to get one of those stokke Tripp trapp's last time but couldn't afford it.
I haven't had DD weighed since 9weeks. The hv around here don't even care. Shes probably around 6.5 kg now. I will ask gp to weigh her when she gets her jabs on Thursday.
Hope you're all sleeping well and any cheeky ones are having one off night wakes.
Many thanks Feral have PM you. Will check out the other information too. Our wooden high chair is similar and will sit at table with out a tray front.
The only logistics I'm thinking about at moment is when to try breakfasts with babe as its bit manic in morn and DD1 eats her cereal watching TV before school, its her incentive for getting dressed on her own so I think I will be waiting until we get back from school 9am babe can eat with me when I have my toast. All I remember from before was the constant messy kitchen floor! It had never been SO mopped!
Very pleased babe had more normal feed pattern yest &last night after very poor wk with bugs, she woke 12,3,6 and is now back to sleep but my lie ins are over now as DH back to work I've got to get up with DD1, Hohum it was lovely I had 3lieins last wk
Enjoy your day
Hi, Geekmum, we have a Cosatto chair, it turns and can go to different heights, is also easy to clean but not cheap (was a gift) but love the fact it is heavy weighted base so LO can't put feet on table and push over backwards.
Feral, the recepie book from Gill Rapley has some lovely, simple ideas in it.
S.smile - we have got a sheet of watrerproof table cloth for under high chair and shake it out on lawn - feed the birds! and saves floor sweep and mop.
My DS is horribly snotty and struggling to eat and sleep properly at the mo so all my good resolutions about sleeping in crib are not working. I find he won't go back after 1am feed and his head and hands feel cold but the rest is warm and I wonder if this stops him going back to sleep on his own but don't know how to make is cosy without pillow or blankets.
Have a nice breezy day all
Well back to normal... Well almost, kids back with us this evening and school tmw. OH back in work today been lovely having him home over the holiday. But in a way nice to get back to a routine (of sorts) and start the diet today. Put so much on over Xmas I'm so annoyed with myself. Have an aim to lose 2 sizes by June (wedding) at least I've got a goal to aim for... Going to be hard though.
Can't really go running at least not until lighter nights. You'd break limbs running at night around here - all hills and no street lights. But it'll be good to lose a bit first before big exercise.
Geekmum - we've got chicco Polly chair, seems good. Light and sturdy and easy to clean. Handy pockets too - mind you only using it for her to sit in whilst we eat for now.
Must look into blw don't know much about it. She's got 3rd jabs next week so will get her weighed then. Think she must be about a stone.
We're finding that she's keeping awake after the middle of night feed due to her hitting her face with her arms flying about. So now spend 15 mins blocking them to her face and she finally settles!! Save picking her up lots.
Hope no one been blown away - got up too gate banging and trampoline upside down! Seems a little calmer but not weather to go out in...
Thanks for the high chair recommendations. I think I'm going to look into the ones in the clearance sale on kiddicare. We were planning on getting a wipe clean table cloth to go underneath.
I'm a bit nervous at starting weaning! I am going to wait until I'm confident LO can hold his head up when in a seated position. He can do for a while at the moment, but then it drops forward. I don't want him choking on anything!
WRT BLW, does it matter about salt in our food? I don't cook or add salt but we do use salted butter and there's salt obviously in sausages, smoked bacon etc. how careful do we have to be?
Candr I hope your DS gets better soon.
I hope all of you with troublesome sleepers get some rest soon! 100 that's exactly what DS was doing over Christmas, seems to have settled a bit more now overnight. Hopefully this will last!
Sebs, I'll be wearing a head torch out and about! But can understand your reluctance. I'm trying to cut back on the food and do exercise... Setting myself up for a fail!
candr my Lo had week of sleepin propped on towels &pillows as she so conjested. I had her in bed lots but last two nights as she got better she resettled back into crib after every feed. Think u just do what makes them comfy when poorly. I used the saline drops when she couldn't feed. She didn't like them but 5mins later her nose had cleared enough to feed again. It's horrid watchin them suffer. She keeps choking on her flem it got so bad yester I had to hold her head down pat on the back as she was bright red coughing session wasn't clearing it.
Lo is making very loud gurnin noises like a pirate grrrgrrr its funny &vloud!
She had two weeks of fists hitting in her face but now she gets them in her mouth and settles really fast in her crib at night &nap time. It's made huge difference as I can put her down awake and mostly settled in 2-4mins minimal crying.
geek salt in food, I avoid adding and avoid stockcubes, gravy powders etc have lots in. My DD1 does love sausages but once a week not going to hurt too much but she is 4 and didn't really have those until she was 3 along with ham. I remember she loved garlic bread& humous as baby/ toddler which surprised me as nursery gave it too them. She loved finger food (cue/carrot/pepper raw strips) &dips and still does!
Very windy ere just braved downpours and two kids to do some shopping luckly someone was smiling on me as got mum n baby carspace in shoppingcentre so we didn't get too wet
I feel rough not sure if I'm getting a chesty cold. It might be nothing, I hope so, but I just got that pre cold feeling and my chest is weird.
LO just did a full back to front to back again roll over. Poss a tiny bit of momentum from the first bit but she's done it both ways now! Eep
Hope your cold passes 100. Finally got the tree down and all the decorations packed away for another year. I love the twinkles of Christmas but once new year comes I like a good tidy up. Dcs go back to school tomorrow - glad it wasn't today as it was torrential here. I barely slept a wink last night as it sounded like the roof would come off with the winds - being up in the loft not great during storms. Lo didn't seem bothered though.
Thanks for whoever gave me the kindle case tip - ordered one of the lit ones from amazon and it's amazing.
Well, tomorrow I plan to get the ironing done and hopefully have a bit of a tidy up while the kids are at school, quite looking forward to having the house to myself for a few hours. Thursday lo is due his jabs and Friday is another catchup day. My oh is 40 in less than three weeks, nothing arranged and no ideas so need to put my thinking cap on - any amazing ideas greatly received !
Nooooo I don't want him to turn over, he's a baby and must stay one <stamps foot>. Tge most we have is a gradual turning from a twelve o'clock position to three o'clock when he's on his play mat, but it is a smooth shiny type material.
Lovin tge noises, think he'll be a talker rather than a walker. Dd tge complete opposite.
I'd rather have an internal ultrasound than a smear any day. More to add to tge to do list, why do I keep forgetting the smear an implant Appts?
Bad night, dd must be coming down with something
Ooh minkyj which kindle case have u got? My DH bought me one for Xmas so I can read one handed as I'm normally book worm but its taken me 4mths to finish the time travellers wife as couldn't hold book &Lo! Reading real book, dawn French funny book about family now. I did download a book onto the kindle but I'm not sure, I do need to be able to read in dark too and I miss knowing how thick a book is before I start reading it and where I am in the story, plus the story I've got on it keeps putting only a few words on the screen at a time. How have you got on with it?
Ssmile, I have a kindle, there is a button u can press which means you can change the size of the font so you get more words on the page. Also at the bottom of the screen there are dots, the dots kind of show how long the book is and as you go along it says how far into it you are. I've read that book if it's the one called a tiny bit marvellous, found it a bit odd but in able to put it down! Didn't see the ending in it before it happened which is good
Well I've lost my voice now as I thought I would, tell tale signs were yesterday. Poor LO doesn't recognise my voice and looks confused.
On phone, think I missed a post or two sorry. %%23
Loves I think our two have the same idea - lo can roll onto side but shows no interest in going further!
He's also started talking at the boob, he stops sucking but without unlatching, then does a sort of whine. Not sure if he's complaining about the lack of milk, he only really does it on my right boob!
I've only read one book since the birth, a georgette heyer one. As I have an iPad I think a kindle as well would be a bit extravagant! Would love to get back into reading.
100 hope you feel better soon
And Loves hope your dd has a better night tonight
Minky what does your husband like? Could organise a go karting day or bowling night for him and his friends?
100years - hope you feel better soon. Probably cursing it here, but we've managed to dodge colds so far this winter (despite being around people with stonkers) ... think it must be the cold weather up here... we're about 3 degrees colder than "townfolk"...!!
Geekmum and Loves - yep, my LO is with your's... she'll roll from her back on to her side (which she seems to love to do) and tries to go further but hasn't as yet gone onto her front. She doesn't like being on her front, so perhaps that's what's stopping her.
Kids back and back to school this morning - except bus didn't turn up for DSD, so had to bundle LO in car seat mid feed (which was OK as she wasn't taking to it brilliantly so the gap helped!) and take DSD to school quickly. It's not far, but there is no pavement to the school (being very rural here) so a bus picks the kids up from the village, including DSD, but no idea why it didn't turn up this morning.
Need some advice/perspective if you don't mind... got one of those emails yesterday from Bounty "Your 16 week old baby..." and it listed a few forums on the go, including one that read "what's your LO's bedtime routine". I had a quick look, and virtually every entry read something like this "Bottle given about 7.30pm, then I put LO down, and they sleep until 7am"... or something along those lines. Some even said their LO had being doing this since 6 weeks old! Got me thinking... am I doing something wrong? My LO is bottle fed, but still won't sleep through the night. She feeds around 8am, 12pm, 4pm, 9pm and then around 2 - 3am - so she gets her 5 feeds a day in but obviously one of those is the middle of the night. She's fed when she seems to want to feed, although I'm trying to get in there before she starts getting hungry. I remember my HV saying that I should try and get the 5 feeds in during the day and then she'd sleep right through the night... is it that easy??? Should I now try and get 5 feeds in the day? Also was reading weaning books yesterday, and they were all based on bottle / breastfeeds at early morning, breakfast, lunch, tea and then before night. Do you think I should start to aim for 6am, 9am, 1pm, 5pm and 9pm and hope she goes through?? I might start aiming for this... Especially as she doesn't settle quite so easily after the feed in the middle of the night. I also want to try and make the evening a bit more routine - becuase we've got the 10 and 12 year old to deal with LO has her feed between 9 and 10, and then is changed and cradled to sleep. Really want to try and get a routine of bath, bottle, read and bed - with her settling in her crib rather than us holding her to sleep.
I just feel I haven't put enough structure in as both me and OH are quite laid back, and I guess have a laid back style to the LO, but perhaps now she's getting older and it's getting closer to weaning, she needs more structure?
Or, did only the mums whose LO sleep through the night post on that forum and it's not a true picture... as I know here that most LO's don't sleep through the night yet - at least not consistently...
Ooh, LO has just done a poo... best go and deal!!!
Any thoughts most gratefully received!!
Sebs I've had repeated to me many times "go by the baby, not by the book". My LO feeds at approx. 7am, 9, 11, 1pm, 3, 5, 7, 11:30, 2:30am, then 7 again (and sometimes has a sneaky one at 5am). As you can see he has 7 day time feeds, goes to sleep 8:30, but still gets up for 2 nighttime feeds. He has 'weight problems' although seems healthy in every other respect, and I can't make him feed more often than he does!
I think do what works for you. Changing the routine may help but may rock the boat so you'll have to balance out the pros and cons for your family. If you decide to change, do it gradually as I've heard nightmares when parents suddenly change!
Geekmum, WRT to salt I didn't add any to anything whilst cooking and used unsalted butter until DS was a year old. I also made my own bread and hummous and put less salt in it. Our local butcher does really good sausages without too much salt in so DS would have those once in a while. You can get reduced salt stock cubes as well (Heinz do one for kids but I like the Boots ones best; I use them all the time now). I used to make things like fish fingers and chicken goujons rather than buying them. It's only for a little while and it was surprising how quickly we got used to it.
Ssmile I have this Kindle cover and it is worth every penny (plus I like the pink!) I love my Kindle but it did take me a while to get used to not having a book iyswim. I have read TONS this mat leave; I think I read a total of about three books last time as it's so hard to juggle BFing and a book. Like 100years says, there's a button (looks like Aa) at the bottom of the keyboard to change the font size.
Minky the best pressie I ever got for DH was tickets to see his fave band. I managed to keep it a total surprise and I had brownie points for a long time afterwards!
Sebs move away from the book! Your laid back approach is the best thing you could possibly do and I am so of you for being able to be relaxed with your first baby; I was a loony for trying to force DS into a routine and made myself miserable. I reckon your HV is a bit of an idiot for telling you that 5 day feeds = sleeping through as it is definitely NOT that easy; DD quite often feeds five times a day but she certainly doesn't sleep through! Plus she's had an evening routine for months but has just started being a right PITA about going to bed - I didn't get dinner until 9pm last night - so an organised bedtime isn't yielding very good results here atm!
All those mums whose tiny babies sleep through from 6 weeks will have a hell of a shock when their 6mo starts teething whereas we hardened non-sleepers will just take it in our stride!
100 hope you feel better soon and can start running with us on the other thread and Loves I hope you manage to get a bit of a rest today.
Thanks Feral and Geekmum. I think in my heart of hearts don't really want to "go with the book". I just got worried thinking that my 16 week old certainly doesn't sleep through the night, and wants a feed mid way through. And, perhaps by now she should be sleeping through - but then, everyone on here doesn't seem to have a good sleeper, so I'm thinking those who posted on the other website must be either very lucky or perhaps not completely telling the truth???? And, I think with weaning, I should just go with adding food to the mid day feed, and taking it from there. As long as she's getting enough formula each day, doesn't really matter when she's getting it.
I might start shortening the feeds in the day - just because she seems to be getting slightly more hungrier quicker, and perhaps that will extend the feeds a little around night time (or maybe not...!!) and yes, Geekmum definitely won't introduce any drastic changes.
And, yes, you're right, teething and night times won't be much of a shock!!
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Feral - quite looking forward to the weaning bit, and making food up for LO. Thanks for the tip re stock cubes.
God, reading - forgotten what that was all about. Sooooo want to get back into reading... I used to read a lot when going to bed, but now if I get under those covers, I just want to sleep! So, will try and start reading a bit in the day... if time permits!
Seems like my LO is like yours Sebs, we feed 9am, 12, 3, 5, 7, 9pm, 1am,3.30am, 7am sometimes. The ones during the day can stretch longer so less feeds but regardles of what time he goes down he wakes at 1 and 3.30 for feeds. Am trying to get him to bed earlier but is taking ages to get him to self sooth so often not alseep before 9-10pm. He tends to stay in bed with me between 1am and 3.30 feed as I think putting him in cold crib wakes him up too much but by 4am is too asleep to notice going back to crib.
I have been able to read a fair bit as do it while doing dream feed as stops LO trying to play with me - am looking forward to spending book tokens DH got me for xmas - any reccomendations?
DS had been rolling over but seems to have adopted the 'been there done that' attitude and is now trying to sit up tensing tummy muscles and making 'old man eurgh! noises' as he does it which is funny, can tend to topple forwads though so am keeping close eye.
Looking forward to weaning him but is still only 4m so may wait a bit for his digestion to mature.
Thanks Sciencegeek. My LO sometimes makes noises when on the boob too.
Thanks Sebs. I think people have given great advice re the feeding and sleeping through. I reckon people on that forum were just showing off tbh, I feed (although I'm EBF on demand) on average 11 times a day, that's an average!!! And re bedtime, well it's anything between 8 and 9:30 dependent on when we take her through to the bed time. I am not concerned that it's not rigid, I think it's good for them to have a 'routine' but if it's so set that it's exactly exactly the same time every night then if there is a night where things are different that will throw the lo out too much. I may be wrong in that, but for me it works, I'm kind of bed timing on demand in a way, but it's never later than 9 that we start the bed process.
Thanks feral. Yep that was the button I was on about, but didn't have the kindle to hand to check which one it was, then went all feeble.
candr, what sort of books do you like to read? My lo is also not rolling over as much, I think she's kind of realised she can do it and the novelty has worn off. In her bouncy chair she is sitting herself forward in it, away from the back of the chair. We have ordered a seat thing for her, like a bumbo, but with toys around it and looks more sturdy underneath. I sat her in the washing basket earlier propped up with cushions while I was peeling some spuds, she really seemed to enjoy it. I put her toys in there with her.
Not feeling any better. LO still looking at me funny when I speak, but I did some ooh aah noises at her earlier and she laughed really sweetly.
Thanks for all your posts. It's good to know that you all seem to be having similar experiences. HVs can be so prescriptive sometimes, you don't know what to believe!
Well my LO has just been lying on the bed, and managed to turn over from her front to her back a few times. Also, when on her front, she was able to lift her head and shoulders right up... she's been able to lift her head up before now, but not her shoulders too. Mind you, probably slightly easier on the bed than a harder surface, but still, good on her!!
And, 100years - my LO is also doing sit ups when in her bouncy chair. In fact, I put her in the chair yesterday briefly without strapping her in (oops) and literally turned my back, and my Dad called me straight back as she was almost off the chair! Worming her way down the chair!! So, note to self, must always strap her in... (I do normally, honest!) Sounds a good idea using the wash basket... must give that a go!
Thanks again everyone, your thoughts on feeds/routines much appreciated
And, 100years, hope you feel better soon
Hope u feel better 100 soon. We've had 3wks of colds in our hse both DH&DD have got it back again. I've just rescheduled Lo jabs from this Fri to next as she still coughing lots.
Re-routine I've been pretty consistent from 6wks and Lo has slowly been gettin earlier to bed. that's her choice this last week she been settled in her cot before 7pm. Which is vhandy as I can then get the older one down for 7pm. We have had 4nights now both in their beds by 7pm its been lovely for DH&I to actually have bit time together. This Lo is opposite of her sister, babe seems to like a lot more sleep with naps in day and will be in bed 7pm-8am, but up to feed 12,2,5/6am on average. In day time she approx feeds 8am,9am,11am,3,4,5,6-6.30pm, so that's 7feeds in day and 3/4 at night! So like 100 we must be 11feeds a day but she is quick 5min breastfed on demand so timings very approx as change weekly. I hadn't realise I was feeding So much until I just thought about it Im hoping Lo will sleep better around 9mth mark once 3meals a day established and I plan to stop breastfeedin then which removes some of the comfort wakeups I think.
Will check out kindle bits mentioned thanks for tips. DD1 back to school tom, ooh I SO looking forward to some time off from the noise &demands a lively four year makes and watching some TV just for me. Ive seen virtually no TV over Xmas, tom will most definitely be a sofa day, me n babe chilling out.
Hello everyone! Tis me TP from before - when we were all enormous and impatient and sharing cups of raspberry leaf tea!
The last 3 months have been brilliantly hectic - but then you all know that! Lovely to hear how things are going and am trying to catch up properly - and then to join in again if I can be forgiven for going AWOL (special apologies to 100years)?
However my iPhone is almost outta juice and I have to heave myself off the sofa for a shower before one born every minute! So will be back...
My DS by the way is not yet rolling but is utterly scrummy and hilarious!
My very best wishes to you all and a belated happy new year!
Thanks ssmile. To be fair, I don't think I got a cold/cough/sore throat in the whole of 2011, being pregnant must have been really good for me. But this is how I usually get a cold, sore throat, lose voice and sometimes goes onto my chest. I'm hoping not this time, but I'm going to rest as much as I can, which means I should be going to bed now, but my mum rang while I was putting LO down and I want to call her back, but she's engaged now!
TP, how could we forget you. No apologies needed(and no special ones for me), I'm hoping things are OK for you. We must meet up, I want to see your scrummy son. Will drop you a text.
Pleased to meet you TP, I joined the thread about a month ago.
I went to my new nct post natal group today, met some lovely new mums
We got into talking about routines and everyone's is different so we really don't need to stress! Also out of the eight of us, no one has a dc sleeping through the night yet!
Looking forward to getting to know new people and am still meeting up with the mums I met at antenatal, so what with mn as well I feel like I've got a lot of friends at the moment !
Yay, hello again TP, it's great to have you back!
Geekmum, that's great that you're out and about so much. I was really good with DS and had a program of events for the whole week that meant I met loads of people but I have been rubbish this time around. I have resolved to shift my arse out of the house when DS is at nursery and just ignore the housework/ cooking/ shopping like I did last time!
Candr the best book I've read recently was Room by Emma Donoghue; it made me cry, laugh and nearly pee myself with fear! I also really loved The Help by Catherine Stockart. Neither of them are very demanding but they're both great reads.
Yay- welcome back TP.
I am back in my pre christmas form once more! Finally got on the laptop rather than iphone to change back ! Going to be quick here though as lo is not a happy chappy atm.
Smile - the kindle case is from amazon and its the actual kindle with light case - very expensive at £50 but lovely smooth leather - light as a feather, perfect fit and the light charges from the kindle - means you have the light built in if you are out and about without carrying extra bits and pieces - at 67% of the price of the kindle its not cheap but it means I can read in the dark, one handed if needs be - otherwise I wouldnt use it as much.
I am currently reading Jill Mansell - very lighthearted and funny romcom style books - love her as an author, very feel good and dont need brain cells! Just read a history of broadmoor mental hospital so needed something lighter! Did enjoy it though, really interesting as I am interested in victorian public health because of what I studied for my degree years ago!
science - thanks for the ideas - would have done the friends suggestion but as we moved in the last few years he doesnt have that many close friends near to us here (most are still in London) so makes it difficult to organise something for him as he is also quite shy. Think I may try kitesurfing lessons or a cayak.
Sebs - ignore people who say they have lo's that sleep through at 6 weeks, some do and some dont (I neer had sleepers!) - someone told me once that a non-sleeper was a sign of high intelligence (not sure I believe that either but hey ho!).
Ooo Minky what did you study for your degree? I specialised in history of science with a focus on the 19th century, a mental hospital history sounds v interesting to me!
Yay... welcome back TP! Doesn't that world of raspberry leaf tea (not that I actually took any in the end), curries etc etc seem an eternity away?!? Sounds like you've had a fun 3 months similar to all of us. Watched half of One Born Every Minute, and you've just reminded me I taped the second half so can watch that today...! Wouldn't watch it before but enjoyed the first half last night.
Ssmile - enjoy your sofa day... think we're doing the same today, had a pretty bad night... couldn't sleep at the start because of the howling wind, and then couldn't the second half of the night because of LO....! Minky - if non sleepers turn out intelligent then I'll be getting my LO Mensa tested then !!
Talking of the weather, was going to go out today but it's blowing a gale and throwing it down... think I preferred it when it snowed to this... just hope the wind dies down soon, the dog is acting all scared ...
Oh, got to go, LO not happy... back soon...
Welcome back TP.
My first DD didn't sleep much for four yrs and is above average intelligence but was hellish four yrs at times, and she needs lots of stimulation still.
We only just survived walk to school the wind very scary I had to stop and hold onto buggy more than once as gusts SO strong!
For those on a budget I've just used a packet of Lidls nappies and they have been vgd, very like pampers in fit but gd third cheaper. I kept Lo in pampers over night though as I don't change her nappy for 12hrs unless poohie, but the Lidls prob be just as good.
Spent an hour on sofa so far its lovely.........
Ssmile, thanks for that; I also use Pampers overnight atm (as DD is not reliable about not pooing in the night and my cloth night nappies are not designed to deal with poo) but they are so expensive that I've been meaning to ask if anyone had any alternatives.
DS must also be a genius as he's a pretty rubbish sleeper, DD maybe a bit more average
Wow! A lot to catch up on. Hello to TP .. I joined the thread a few weeks ago after lurking for a while. Haven't posted as much as I would have liked as LO has suddenly become a lot more demanding and stopped taking long daytime naps . Has this happened to anyone else? She used to reliably nap for 4 to 5 hours a day, and now won't go any longer than 45 minutes before waking up screaming . All the books (which I know the babies haven't read, sadly) seem to say LOs should be sleeping between 3 and 5 hours during the day at this point. Today I think she's managed 1.5 hours tops. Not sure whether to worry about this or 'go with the flow'!
Interesting to hear your thoughts and ideas about weaning, and thanks for the top tips Feral. I'm really looking forward to trying out foods with LO, and also quite looking forward to cutting down the bf as I've never really enjoyed it that much and recently it's been a bit of a battle, with LO screaming for food, then coming off after about 3 minutes screaming even more! Not sure what the problem is . She still has at least one good feed a day, and feeds very well at night but is really fussy for at least two day feeds, and it's hard bloody work.
I must have a little genius on my hands too if non-sleeping is a sign of intelligence! She's gone from sleeping 5/6 hours in a row fairly reliably, to waking between 3 and 5 times .. Am SO TIRED! Had to enlist DH to come and settle her last night after I'd been up for almost two hours and was sobbing over her cot. Is this the 'four month sleep regression' I've heard about?? I hope it resolves itself soon as I'm going slowly insane. And Sebs, all those mums who have LOs sleeping through are either lying or very very lucky indeed . My LO is 15 weeks today and not showing the slightest sign of sleeping through or even dropping a night feed. Urgh! On a positive note, LO is now going to sleep for the night between 7 and 8, which is great, but just not sleeping any longer than 3 hours at a time now, which is less great. Nothing we do seems to make a difference - she just does as she pleases! You'd think this would stop me reading books and trying out different strategies to help, but it doesn't .
Loves and Geekmum - my LO is also rolling from her front or her back to her side, but can't quite get all the way over. It's very funny and cute watching her try, but she gets frustrated! She's much more demanding in terms of entertainment now and I seem to be spending most of my days singing, bouncing, playing, reading etc. Seems impossible to get any house type jobs done anymore, especially as she is on some kind of nap strike! I wonder if the lack of naps is affecting her night time sleep?? Not sure it's worth forcing the issue though.. Yesterday, I spent an hour trying to get her to go to sleep (she had shown some sleepy signs) and we both ended up in tears. Anyone got any foolproof settling tips, for day or night?!
I agree about wanting to get back into reading. It's taken me 3 months to read The White Tiger (can't remember the author - but it won the Booker Prize one year), and I really enjoyed it, but it is hard to find the time. Would definitely recommend it Candr, and I also read Her Fearful Symmetry by Audrey Niffenegger when I was pregnant, which was very good. I thought bf would give me lots of opportunities to read, but now she's fussing so much it's impossible, and at night I'm too tired to focus!
Hope you all have good nights tonight, x
Welcome back TP! Nice to see you and glad you're enjoying being a mum.
Sorry I'm a bit rubbish at posting but have been lurking lots. I just seem to leave it too long then have loads to catch up on and forget who has said what!
I've been reading another thread about how to get more organised so am trying some tips from that to see if it cuts down on the constantly chasing my tail feeling I've been having recently. Hoping it gives me more time to just play with both DSs especially as DS2 is now really starting to interact that bit more.
Hope everyone with colds feels better soon.
Ssmile and Feralgirl I like Lidl nappies too but think I prefer pampers overall, especially for DS1. I find that Amazon often have good offers that work out about 11p a nappy which is lots cheaper than full price in shops. I either buy there and they deliver free which is a bonus or buy when on offer in the shops combined with coupons when I have them. The Amazon price does vary though so if you have the space it's a good idea to stock up when the price is low.
Obsidian afraid I don't have any foolproof settling tips. If I did I think I'd be a very rich woman.
This LO so far seems to be a much better sleeper than DS1 was. Naps still a bit hit and miss but am going to try to get into more of a routine if possible. I'm going to try putting LO down at roughly the same time each day after a feed. I find he falls asleep on me while feeding and he'd happily stay sleeping on my knee but with DS1 to care for too that isn't practical. Also I did hold DS1 lots for naps and he wouldn't settle in his cot at all during the day (though the baby cuddles were lovely). After a while I got him used to sleeping in a buggy during the day as the movement helped send him to sleep but it was a battle at times. Maybe you'd be best just to go with the flow for a while and if there's no sign of improvement after a few weeks then think about trying something else. Lack of sleep is really tough though so hope you and LO manage a better rest tonight.
Obsidian - yes, my LO doesn't nap much in the day either, unless I've been out in the car - she loves car journeys and will sleep for a while if we've been out! But, normally, she'll cat nap for about 15 minutes at a time, maybe half an hour, and only about 2 or 3 times during the day. However, she did actually nap for 2 hours yesterday after her midday feed... was hoping this might start to be a new thing, but sadly no... today she just napped twice for around half hour / 20 minutes. I've never been able to settle her in the crib or cot in the day, so she sleeps in her bouncy chair or swing and will fall asleep with minimum intervention in both of these. If she's grumpy because she's tired, she may need dummy, a few bounces/pushes and then she's off. I figure that it's ok to sleep in either in the day, and hopefully she knows crib is for night time sleeping.. but I doubt at this age she knows the difference!!!
She's been very grumpy today... lots of crying and attention. But she didn't have a poo all day until about 1 hour ago, so wondering if she was uncomfy? Or just having a bad day (after a bad night). She's currently asleep in OH's arms - she likes her Daddy Bed of an evening!!
Hello again and thank you for my warm welcome back to join you all - lovely to hear from friends old and new - and of course a huge sense of relief and fascination hearing just how similar and how different these babies are!
Ok. I have spent several hours catching up on the news and have reserved the laptop for 10 mins to give a quick(ish) update on all things DS since he was born on 29/09/11 - 6 days late if you recall my mews of impatience from our ante natal thread
I think I already gave brief overview of birth story so will bypass that (sighs of relief all round) though suffice to say it was a speedy one and our darling boy was cuddled for a good half hour by his daddy before I stopped shaking and felt able to hold him. This still remains difficult to resolve - a bit of post-delivery guilt/shock/disappointment is hanging on, though thankfully this hasn't tainted or delayed my enduring love for my little boy.
We're 14 weeks in now, and have followed a routine from the early days - basically Gina Ford (I realise this is not a popular route for many!). I was EBF until around 6-8 weeks when introduced a late formula bottle and now combination feeding (aptimal x3 a day, rest b/f). DS is a big boy (around 16lb) but doesn't take more than 4-6oz at each feed and won't go longer than 3 hours during the day without a feed. On an ideal day I feed him at 7, 10, top up b/f before nap at 11.30, 2.30, split feed at 5 and then after bath at 6.15 and then dream feed at 10.15. He sleeps from around 6.30pm to 10.30pm when he has dream feed, then sleeps until between 5 and 7am. This is very variable at the moment - we have had a few lovely long sleeps till 7 but mostly around 5.30 when I b/f and then he goes back to sleep till 7.30 latest.
Daytime he has a morning nap (30-45mins), lunchtime nap (1-2.5 hours) and afternoon nap (20mins in pram). The lunchtime nap is great as it gives me time to get stuff done and have lunch myself, but recently he has woken after 45mins ish and sometimes hard to get back to sleep. If so I go for a pram push and he drops off again.
Writing it down makes it sound so much more settled and sorted - and easier - than it actually is! I do find it hard work and am constantly working out how to tweak the hours when something goes wrong - the downside of the routine I guess. It is also easier to feel that you are failing when it doesn't happen to the book. I would cheerfully throttle Gina Ford any day of the week - but then I'd also do it the same way again, as I am so grateful for a bit of predictability, and DS really is a lovely, happy (dare I say it contented?!) baby.
Tell you what - it's great coming into the thread 3 months in as I have skipped all the horrendous sleep deprived, cracked nipples, piles (yep), unidentified crying etc moments. Please don't read the above and think I am boasting or being smug as it is by no means perfect and frequently all goes tits up and leaves me feeling far worse than I would I imagine if I was just chilling out and going with the flow.
I have NO idea how to tackle the next phase however. Weaning, moving around etc bring me out in a rash. I need some company, good advice, rational thinking and a good kick up the backside (mind the piles) - hence am back to muck in with my favourite muckers
I would apologise for the essay but I did warn you, I'm catching up - and besides you lot write essays most of the time anyway
Happy evenings all!
@ essay writing!
Interesting that a lot of our DCs are getting a bit rubbish about daytime naps. DD has also become a bit temperamental and tends to wake after 30 mins or so but if I'm quick then I can boob or shush-pat her back to sleep and she'll stay down for a good couple of hours. She's also being rubbish in the evenings too and we are shush-patting her until she's in deep sleep which is a PITA but DS was exactly the same at this age and he eventually grew out of it at about 7mo. I'm tempted to just start leaving her to settle herself in her cot as she doesn't cry, she just jabbers away.
DS was this age when he completely went for a burton and wouldn't sleep for longer than 45 minutes ever, the little toad. I spent the whole of my first mat leave reading about babies and sleeping and for those of you who like to do the same, I really found that the the NAPS routine and The No-Cry Sleep Solution were my favourites. The NCSS in particular is brilliant and reassuring and very lovely in the way that it's written and there is no a whole series of No-Cry Solution books (including a napping one )
PS thanks Obsidian, I buy DS's eco pull ups on Amazon but I never thought to get DD's Pamers there too <durr>
We took delivery of approx 1000000 pampers the other day from amazon that work out at 9p per nappy. DS attempting to fill one now as practise...
Morning all had a much better last couple if nights.
Have to say though ds will not go to bed until he is ready still. Tried last night to put him down as he had not really had any sleep during tge day. Took him up at 6;30 and brought him back down at 7:45 as needed to put dd down and he wasn't having any of it!
Glad to hear it's not just my LO refusing to nap during the day.. Although, having said that, she's asleep now! And after refusing to nap at lunchtime yesterday, she then conked out between 3 and 5 - contrary baby! Then wouldn't go to bed as she wasn't tired enough - sigh.
Loves it's nice to hear you've had a better couple of nights. Last night was a bit better for us too. Fed at 8pm, 1.30am and 5.15am. Would have been quite pleased with that but LO decided it was morning after the 5.15 feed and it took about an hour to get her back to sleep.. Still, feel a bit less broken this morning. She won't go to bed until she's ready either - if you try to put her down too early she screams the house down .
Thanks for the book recommendations Feral - will check those out on Amazon. I am completely obsessed with sleep at the moment so may as well have something to read other than MN!
TP I am very jealous of your routine . That sounds exactly what I'm trying (but failing!) to encourage my LO towards. She doesn't seem to need feeding as often now, and the last few days it's been 7.30, 11, 2.30, quick feed at 4.30ish, and then bottle at 6.15 after her bath. She's napping at 9 for around 45 minutes, and then for about an hour at lunchtime. Do you mind me asking you a couple of questions?!
Which feeds are bf and which are formula? We're giving one bottle of formula at 6.15 at the moment, but would consider doing this more often if it helps establish a routine and/or improves sleeping..
How does the dreamfeed work? I would like to try this but am hesitant to get her out of her cot in case I wake her up!! How long do you feed for and do you think it helps your LO sleep longer at night? Do you use a bottle or bf?
Thanks in advance!
Sorry - another essay
Hope you all have lovely days - Friday at last
Obsidian, I dream fed DS in a desparate bid to get a few hours extra (he was EBF). He did used to take a good feed and then go straight back to sleep in his cot and it was a lovely snuggly bonding time for us. I think, in theory, it's supposed to be possible to give a bottle without even lifting the babe out of the cot, just a bit of propping, and because they're asleep they don't gulp and don't get so windy.
However the downside was that the 10.30 feed became part of his routine and he eventually started waking for it, earlier when it was growth spurt time, and it meant that if we went out then I had to be back to feed him before he woke (although I suppose that if you gave a bottle then that wouldn't be a prob) but there was a whole series of The Apprentice where I never once saw a firing because he started waking at 9.45 every night ! Even now he is 3yo, when he's having a phase of rubbish sleep, he still has that wake-up time in his body-clock which is a right PITA as it's our bedtime too!
Since DD seems to be capable of going from bedtime to 1am-ish, I am resisting the temptation to do the DF as I want to be able to go out and not dash home! It is very tempting to see whether she would go without one of her night feeds if I did it but she only wakes twice in the night anyway and I want to see whether I can get through the 4 month regression without changing too much iyswim.
obsidian we actually do wake DS up for his dream feed, which is a bottle (expressed b/m). My DH gently wakes him at 10.15pm, changes his nappy and then gives him a bottle from which DS drinks around 6oz very sleepily. He then goes back to sleep in his cot. This takes him through till between 5-7am (last night it was 6am then he slept again till 7.30am). The idea is to slowly reduce the amount he drinks at the dream feed once he has started to wean. The calories consumed during the day eventually mean he drops it completely. Obviously feral has the experience of having done it this way before and found it can be restrictive - but I am not b/feeding at this time (as I go to bed at 9pm!) so less so for me. My fingers will be crossed that he doesn't pick up the habit - as yet he does need to be woken and doesn't wake up automatically.
The formula bottles we give are the bigger feeds - 10-11am, 2.30pm and 6.15pm. The rest are b/f (and the expressed b/m dream feed).
By the way I ALWAYS go for a pram push at 3.30pm every day and DS sleeps for around 20mins from 4pm. If he misses this sleep the evening routine (split feed and bath) is cranky and he either falls asleep before taking a full feed or cries until I b/f for comfort.
My routine has definitely made my life more restrictive as I am less inclined to do anything to disrupt it. I reckon if I had other DCs I'd have to compromise and be less by the book - but for now it is working really well and we are all happy. I haven't been out for a night out since he was born but this is cos I haven't wanted to yet! We've been able to have friends over instead as we know we have from 7pm 'free'.
Hope this helps - not for everyone I know.
I think gina Ford is like Marmite you either love it or hate it and that depends a lot on if your child conforms. My SIL has both her DDs in that routine& loves it, I now hate it. I tried endlessly with DD1 to do it. I feel rather bitter now at how much stress it caused me as with this DD I'm just feeding, napping on demand and its SO much easier and enjoyable experience. As mothers we get so much guilt and children are ALL different I think you should just do what feels right for you, if GF works then do it but if it doesn't don't flog a dead horse (like I did with first babe) just enjoy the baby stage it doesn't last long
100yrs, like the idea of the washing basket, my DH put him in a huge cooking pot the other day, nearly gave me a heart attack when I took lid of.
Welcome back TP hope things have gone well for you.
Thanks for book reccommendations, look forward to trying something new as read lots of crime books (Lee Child, Karin Slaughter)
Obsidian - is White Tiger about an avalanche as read it 2 days ago thought it was really good.
Watched OBEM and felt more empathy for the women though the stressy dad was a PITA. Makes me so glad that my LO is fine and healthy though.
Had awful night last night. DH away and LO had 3rd jabs. Started screaming at lunchtime and kept having crying fits - his legs were really red and a bit swollen with a temp so had no sleep till 3am when the smoke alarm battery started dying and damn thing kept beeping LOUDLY! He sleeps better during day as is on his front but am getting stricter about him being in crib so slow progress. Look forward to DH coming home and he really misses LO which is lovely.
The White Tiger I read was about India, and is here:
Thanks for all the advice about feeding and sleeping - might try the dream feed idea tonight. Wish me luck
Poor you Candr Hope you have a much better night tonight.
DD has fed and slept reasonably well today, so have got my fingers crossed for tonight. She is quite fussy when she feeds sometimes though - pulling off and shrieking. Has anyone else had this? I spoke to a bf Counsellor today and she suggested it might be either painful gums/early teething or she's getting frustrated because the milk isn't coming out fast enough after the initial let down. I've got some bonjela to try on her gums, but I don't know what I can do about the milk not coming fast enough, other than try formula instead. I'll persevere for a few days, but I'm worried she's not eating enough during the day at the moment , which might be why she's waking up a lot at night.. But then she feeds really well at night - ARGH!
I'm with Ssmile on GF; I nearly killed myself trying to get DS to conform and it didn't make him sleep any better anyway! However I really think GF has a point when it comes to daytime kipping and trying to avoid letting babies get over tired. I certainly took some good ideas from it and also from The Baby Whisperer but I will never try to follow a book routine again as it's just not for me and it would be impossible with two anyway.
Candr, that sounds miserable I really hope DS is OK soon; and at baby stew!
Obsidian, DD is also fussy feeding atm. I put it down to (a) her teeth and gums beginning to make their presence felt (I prefer teething powders to bonjela btw, and so have both DCs. Boots are good) and (b) being 4 mo and having improved vision and being more interested in her surroundings than in my boob! unless she is starving my DD just snacks if I feed her anywhere where there are any distractions and, like yours, does a good big feed in the dark and quiet. DS was exactly the same, they grow out of it (or not, and then you wean them at 6mo and it doesn't matter anyway).
Still have no voice, or rather what I do have is very croaky. Bit sore throat and just general meh, not quite myself. But I'm chilling and doing very little. Although we did go out for lunch today with a friend which was lovely.
Got a referral done for the Tongue Tie, so it's wait for the appointment now, have a lovely NCT lady at the BF group who was the lady who saw me(at home) before Christmas and she got one of the HV to do the referral.
Also got LO weighed (I snuck in before the other mums were there) to be honest I don't think I'm carrying a cold virus, not really snotty or temp etc, just got a bad throat like I get when I am tired if that makes sense. Anyway LO is now 12lb12oz, bless her, following the 25 centile line, although she's a little under it now as opposed to over it.
Sorry for not catching up with everyone.
Just a quick check in to say hi!
My running thread is doing well, and it's surprising how much it has motivated me! I'm determined to keep it going but did find it difficult with DH getting back late from work yesterday.
My lo is not too bad at the moment, had a bit of unexplained crying today though, but he settled after patting and singing to him, bit embarrassing when shopping in debenhams with a friend!
Sorry can't catch up with everyone, I'm on my phone - do I have to do the hash tags?
gosh ive missed a lot!! just scanned thru a few posts- highchairs - if still at all relevant. if space is an issue or u like things neat and tidy get 1 that folds flat for storage. look for 1 that will be easy to clean- not with a seat full of nooks and crannies if u will be moving it about eg visit other ppl a lot perhaps weight may be an issue? be good to look in the sales.
sebs i think- re sleeping and feeding. some babies sleep thru from birth or just a few weeks old, everyones different just like u and I. neither of our 1st 2 slept thru til they were in their own rooms, both bf on demand with formula when i was out and about and some evenings. this lo is bf on demand and not sleeping thru but at least i know he's feeding well. theres no harm in trying different sleeping methods if u would like to-i imagine different methods work for different people. just as for me I wouldnt have the mental strength so will stick with things as they are. good luck
sounds like a few lo's are rolling over i really need to give our lo more tummy time and less cuddle time!!!
Thanks for your reassuring words Feral, although not sure I can cope with the snacking, pulling off and screaming for another couple of months! She's sometimes only feeding for seconds, rather than minutes, so am still worried she's not getting enough. I tried expressing this morning, when she wouldn't feed at 11ish (last feed before that was 7am) and feeding her the EBM with a bottle, which she happily guzzled .
Not sure if this means she prefers a bottle (she's only had one a day since 11 weeks) or can look around more when bottle fed. I don't really want to express every day as I find it uncomfortable and don't get that much even with a pump. Not sure whether to try introducing more formula during the day?? I don't really want to yet, but I'd rather she was feeding well, particularly as if she hasn't fed she doesn't sleep as well.
Plus, it's getting rather embarrassing and stressful trying to feed her in public when she constantly screams and pulls off, leaving me rather exposed and with quite a distressed baby!
Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated!
We had a much better night last night thankfully - only two get ups.. Fingers crossed for tonight.
Hope you are all having lovely Saturdays, xx
obsidian the behaviour you describe is similar to what we experienced until we started to introduce more bottle feeds. I lost the use of one boob just after the 6 week growth spurt - it was always the lesser producing one but got increasingly more sore with blocked ducts and then thrush (which was v painful). DS was very frustrated feeding on it and kept pulling off, headbutting my boob and crying until I put him on the working one. I couldn't express anything at all from this boob, so this combined with decreasing feeds was a killer for left boob - now defunct completely!
Anyway, I have discussed situation with other NCT friends and the slow let down or lack of milk does seem to frustrate the babies and lead to the snacking approach you describe. It appears your LO likes the efficiency of feeding from a bottle - but I do empathise with your reluctance to introduce more formula. I am sure others (especially those successfully EBF) will have advice as to how you can prolong the b/feeding, but I would just say that we have resolved similar problems here by combination feeding and mealtimes are happy and calm as a result. Try not to feel guilty if you end up going down this route.
Bought a cushi tush (who makes up these cringeworthy names?!) today on Amazon. DS is increasingly enjoying being upright and less happy on his lambskin rug, which was previously favourite place for a kick.
We went for a walk to see the ducks today, both in navy blue padded ensembles and DS in his carrier - a lovely sunny walk with a happy boy. The spring bulbs are coming through and deceiving me into thinking the change of season is on its way. No doubt we'll get some snow in Feb!
Fingers crossed for good nights for all )
Not sure how old your Lo is obsidian but mine had a very disruptive couple wks around 15-17wk mark. Now she 19wks generally feeds better but if its too noisy busy she more interested in what's going on around so I take her somewhere quiet to feed. I've even fed in pub/cafe toilet as she was hungry but too disrupted by the surroundings.
Today been ouch day! Babe keeps clamping my nipples when feeding. She been very hungry and not want to be put down much, endless norring of my fingers &muslins and loud groaning. But flipping heck my poor nips! I've taken her off with a firm No each time but she just seems hungry She has not rolled over yet but really doesn't like play mat or floor time just wants to be held or sitting up watching world go by in her chair. She always has very limited tummy time as always makes her sick. She strong though so I'm not unduly worried. It's nearly full moon so my eldest DD all day been manic LOOK AT ME day, bloody hard work as DH been in garden most of day mending fence that blew down Thursday so been solo parent. Phew be glad to sink into my bed tonight.
Hows it going with three jimmijam must be very hard work! I'm finding two very tough at times, I get short tempered with my 4yr old then feel like bad mother when really she just being very lively and I'm ttttired..
Mine's just started pulling on and off the breast, hope this isn't a sign of things to come...
Thanks for high chair advice! Jimmi you speak such wise words of experience, I'm glad you're on this thread!
Ssmile my LO has drawn blood from my breast with his fingernails! Hope your feeding gets more comfortable soon. Obsedian I hope that your feeding solves itself too, whatever route you take.
OMG. Ds has just turned over . Put him on his front to 'talk' to daddy cause he was showing signs of wanting to go to bed and he rolled over on his left! So of course put him back on his front and he did it again. Not being statisfied I put him back in his front and he rolled to his right <argh> nooooooo he needs to stay my little baby
On phone before I crash out so sorry for quick replies or if I miss somethings...
Jimmi - thanks for reply. She's naturally changed her feeding times funnily enough - we're in a whole new feeding times today so going to see how it spans out, especially tonight. Mind you she's just kicked off big style trying to get her to sleep but unlike before we've managed to calm her quickly and she's asleep now!! A week ago she did the same and we took ages to calm her so really pleased tonight. Must have learnt something!!
Feral - got the no cries sleep book today - have managed to skim read a few early chapters and looks a really good practical book with lots of ideas to take or discard to suit - looking forward to reading it properly - thanks for tip.
TP - walk to the ducks sounds lovely has been a better day but wind picked up again tonight
To those bf with issues - can I just say I'm in awe of you and think you're doing a brill job and well done for getting this far.
Seems to be getting a little harder these days as LOs become more aware and demanding but without capacity to play for long ... But equally an exciting time and LO seems to be learning something new each day and her full on chuckles just make me burst with pride and love for her... Challenging but rewarding times!!!
However, knackered now with capital K so off to sleep wondering when LO will wake for a feed in her new feeding times!!! Night all, sweet dreams mums and babies
OMG my reward for the full on day yest of endless feeding and demanding DD1 was heavenly sleep 7-6 with one fed 2am for which I was only awake 20mins the downside woken up feeling full of cold again Noooooo I've not shifted the one I've had last two wks
For those with fussy BF issues have a look at the kellymom.com site. I've also read that around 4mths couple things happen. Milk supply changes and babes become a lot more aware so do look around more. But it does pass I do remember getting through this phase before. Sorry its short I'm always on phone need to go stop DD1 waking up DH as he too full of cold again. Have gd Sundays
Does any one else have a LO that seems to be having growth spurt at 16w?, have gone from 2 or 3 feeds at night to waking hourly. Don't know how I will manage when he is in own room and cot in a couple of months if this doesn't settle down. Am half looking forward to him being in own room but love having him in bed with me for part of the night. He is teething and can feel a top tooth now which hurts more when I bf as he tries to chew me. Why has someone not invented a chew toy for babies that is the shape and texture of a finger?
Candr my lo did that at 15-16 weeks, settled down now at 17-18 weeks to once a night waking again. I'm reluctant to call it a growth spurt as he still hasn't put on any weight! But hope your lo's waking is only temporary too.
Awesome idea candr, you should go on Dragon's Den with that one! I am considering designing a gadget that will gently rock the pushchair so you don't have to stand and jiggle it when you stop wheeling a fussy baby around!
Good effort with the feeding Ssmile and I second the kellymom site; it's brilliant and an absolute mine of info.
Sebs my DD has had quite a few stressy evenings and has also started to do an extra feed or two at night. And yes Candr I think it's common for them to have a regression in their sleeping habits at this age, DS certainly did. If you google 'babies four month sleep regression' there are bloomin' loads of forum discussions about it!
This is my mantra:
It's just a phase
These things will pass
It's just a phase
These things will pass
It's just a phase
These things will pass
<Repeat to fade>
Feral that's an excellent mantra! I will start chanting now...
My fingers have been well and truly chomped as well, DS can grab my finger and shove it straight in his mouth now. But he still doesn't know how to control his dribbling!
Oh and btw, in case anyone wants to join me on the couch to 5k programme, the new thread is here
Very interested to hear what is to come - DS is 15 weeks this Thurs and not yet hit a further growth spurt since 12 weeks, though feeds have increased in size just over the last few days. He's had a lovely day today outside in his bouncy chair whilst I garden and DH 'plays' with his bike. Grandparents over too so lots of cuddles (and hands free time for me!).
Quick question - DS has very dry cheeks. The skin hasn't cracked but I am worried it will, and then case discomfort to him. We have been putting sudacrem on it to date but can anyone suggest a good baby friendly dry skin cream? Or other advice as to how we can deal with it? He has always been dry skinned (rather flakey when he was born, which the midwife said was because he was late?) and though his cheeks are the main concern, his knees and legs are also a bit dry.
We had an amusing bathtime this eve as DS did a poo in the water - cue frantic scooping by me whilst he sat quite happily in a towel before being swilled off in a fresh bath. Revolting really but it's amazing how chilled out you can be with your own baby's poo etc!
2nd set of injections on Tues. Am dreading it - he beamed such a lovely trusting smile at the nurse last time, just before she got him in the thigh with the needle... I was almost as sad as he was!
Just a quick one... yes, must start chanting that one!!!
Also - Feral - no need to do any inventing... when I was looking for "things that rock" to soothe babies a few weeks ago, I came across a mat that moves back and forth - you sit the cot, pram (with brakes on obviously!) or whatever on top and it rocks back and forth!!! They're called automatic pram rockers! No idea if they work, never got one!
Dammit sebs! I was going to make millions! Although a mat would be a bit of a faff while you're in a cafe or pausing to chat in the street though, I was thinking of a motor that would attach to the chassis of the pram so perhaps there's still a gap in the market...
TP, a HV told me once that the best thing for baby's skin is sunflower or olive oil, pref organic, which is what we always used to use in the baby massage classes. Supposed to be good as it's natural and unscented. Might be worth a try? My GP gave me stuff called DiproBase for DS once when he had a bit of a flaky dry rash thing going on which worked well but it's very thick and smells like hospitals!
DD is still not asleep. She's lying in her cot, jabbering away to herself. She fed and comfort sucked for an hour before I left her as I was busting for the loo. I can't decide whether to go in and try to settle her or just leave her to her own devices.
She worries me coz she's such a wriggler; last night she woke up having turned through 180 degrees and got her arm caught in the bars at the foot of the cot. She was lying with her head in my bed as well so I'm thinking it might be time to put the side back on the cot and stop the nice sidecar arrangement we've got atm.
Here's to some good sleeps tonight everyone.
Feral - you could still be on to something!!! Millions still there for the making!!
Good luck in what you choose with LO to settle. We're in middle of introducing more structured bed routine and had first tea at 8 pm on our own, with LO asleep upstairs with monitor on. She woke after 45 mins but just managed to get her back to sleep... Fingers crossed for a better night than last one
Night all... Sleep fairy dust to all!
Well I'm a full on snot monster today, but I'm getting my voice back. I have a cough, but it's weird, it's almost like the cycle of throat, cough, snot, yukkyness has been accelerated, I've had all this before but I swear each stage of the 'illness' seems to be lasting a lot less than normal, I'm sure I've been voiceless for a week before and it was only 2 days where I really couldn't talk, the cough seems to be getting better almost as soon as it's started. Hopefully I've not just jinxed myself. I hope I feel better again tomorrow.
Well it gets busier for me now this week again, after the Christmas break. Tomorrow I have a blood test for the milk bank so they can use my milk. Tuesday swimming restarts really looking forward to this and LO is doing so much more now than she was before Christmas I think she will be able to learn the ducking commands better now. Wednesday is smear test day then food shopping delivery. Thursday I think is clear, Friday we have an appointment with a surestart centre lady to see what services they offer and if I want to join. Saturday we are at a baby and toddler art group, which after this week will actually be on a Thursday. I could go to a mum and baby coffee morning tomorrow morning, but I think I have enough on this week. I do have to go into town at some point to pick up the Highchair we've ordered and drop off the milk bank milk too. Phew, I'll be going to bed with LO at this rate
Ladies, I know we are all short for time at some times, and often just post little tit bits here and there. Are the # still required? I think we know that if we get chance to post we will, if we don't or if we are on our phones we aren't being rude, we're just being mums with little babies and sometimes other kids too. I'm happy to take it that if someone only posts a short reply to something then they are busy or on their phone, and if someone posts a long reply then they have the chance to do so. I won't think badly of any short replies, or that someone is rude. What do people think, should we just leave the # off the messages now?
re books, I've also (whilst pregnant) read Room and The help, both great books, I think it was feral who said she had read them. And I think the little symbol on the bottom of the kindle is different on mine as it's one of those new kindles without the keypad, mine is like a box with line in it then it brings up a list of different commands and change font size is one of them. (this is off the top of my head!) I'm currently reading How to be a woman by Caitlin moran, and I'm really enjoying it.
To those who are having difficulties with LOs sleeping/feeding/napping changes, as you know I have had a few difficulties, not massive ones I grant you, but it was tough before Christmas, she was about 13 weeks when it started and it got easier again at 15 weeks, when I saw the NCT lady the other day about the referral I said about the fact LO isn't sleeping through now after having done so, she said 'that's 4 month olds for you' Looks like it's really to be expected and it's an age thing. Tough as it is, it is a stage and hopefully one that doesn't last too long for us all.
I use the cloth nappies at night, unless we are away from home, I just put an extra booster in there, usually I'll change her bum at the 4 or 5 am feed whichever it is, as she usually drops off on the boob when I feed her then, so I change her and then give her a top up of food and if I'm lucky I then get a bit longer, it doesn't always work though. But I have left one on through the night as she woke early and then didn't wake till almost normal time, it hadn't leaked - thankfully.
Naps wise, my LO has either 4 or 5 naps, all varying in length, sometimes it's only a 20 min 'power nap' and other times it a longer one of about an hour, although it depends on where she is, I had her on me the other day and she slept for 90 mins, which was lovely, just being all cwtched up.
I am like ssmile in a non routine way, I think like she said, if it works for you to do a routine, then that's fantastic, I personally found getting a night time bedtime 'routine' hard work when we first started, although I'm glad we did that, as it got an earlier bedtime for LO and a bit of free time in the evening, plus I think it's better for her to go to bed earlier now, I do the rest of it kind of baby led re feeding and napping, taking cues from her, she has a kind of similar pattern to her naps generally, although this is bound to change soon, but I am used to the whingy noises she makes when she starts to get tired and settle her then if I can. I like it being relaxed and I am glad I have done it this way and not tried to do a set daily routine. But it must be good to know exactly when things will happen sleep wise/feed wise.
TP, Can you use dibrobase or some other type of emollient on a baby's skin, E45 or something? Worth asking a HV or chemist maybe, they would know, which is best. I think my sis got diprobase on prescription for my niece, but I can't remember how old she was when she had it. My LO does also have a dry reddish cheek, it's from her sucking her hands and getting drool all over herself when her thumb comes out and goes back in repeatedly!
I was posting a mammoth response and feral beat me to it with the diprobase cream comment!
feral, can you put the side up and down easily enough when she's in it? If so could the side be up while you aren't in the room and down when you go to bed and move it to your bed? I know that might disturb her though. I'm currently quite happy with it still being sidecar arrangement as there is a cushion barrier between the bed and cot and she can't roll up that yet as the cot mattress is a touch lower than the bed mattress, so even if she rolls she won't get onto the bed, it'll be different when she starts to crawl/shuffle though, then I'll have to do something about it Then I'll be a bit sad, but I've been fine when we have been away and she is in the travel cot not next to the bed. But I do love the ease of the side car cot.
100 I'm in complete agreement about the hash tags! Let's leave them off.
I still have to follow up on my resolution to sign up to swimming classes for lo, so I'm going to ask a stupid question here: what do little baby boys wear in the pool? I've seen little girlie swimming costumes but nothing for boys. Mind you I've not really looked yet! Have to look for a new cossie for me too!
100 what highchair did you go for?
Am also busy socialising this week: Monday, meeting a friend; Tuesday, my nct antenatal group friends; Wednesday, pnd baby massage course then nct postnatal group; Thursday, coffee morning with nhs postnatal group friends; Friday, meeting with pregnant friend providing she doesn't go into labour! As my nct postnatal mentor says, if we were working this would be called 'networking', meeting people to make contacts, find out info and ask for help if needed. Makes me feel less guilty at DH having to work!
Hope you all have good nights x
Omg just did my first night bf where I didn't have to go to the loo before or after! This could be bladder control returning! Woohoo! (sorry if tmi but you ladies are probably the only people I can tell!)
Gd on the bladder control sciencegeek mine was awful with DD1 but I've been gd at my pelvic floor exercises this time and its been noticeable better!
I use epiderm cream from DR on baby skin its emolliant that DD1 prescribed for her dry sin as baby and still has occasionally. Gd on red creashes around knees,elbows, wrists etc as can be mild exceama (sp? Gosh my brain not spelling this morn)
No repeat of my Fab sat night, babe fed at 12,2.30am, woke 5 am I ignored her and she wiggled slept till6am fed her but now can't go back to sleep as got school run.....that's what I miss about Christmas hols my lovely DH was letting me go back to sleep till 8am+ was heavenly
Ps I'm always posting on my phone Last tip I've been using MyfitnessPal free app on phone excellent for calorie counting if like me your on a new years diet my DH doing it too and its really helping me as we get competitive (he will win as has willpower of a rock when he wants to! )
Sciencegeek we have a baby wetsuit for DS - all in one like a regular baby grow without legs (in built nappy). Can stay in water longer as warmer.
Thanks for red cheek/dry skin recommendations - I think I'll ask for prescription from HV on Tues.
Anyone else not had period yet?
Typing onehanded and awkwardly hence brevity!
Get well soon 100years!
TP I've not had a period yet but now I've said it I'll probably get it soon...
Will look into getting wetsuit, thanks.
Ssmile think it's 'eczema' spelling! Bad luck on the night, I got more sleep when DH around too. Mine woke at 12:40 and 3:50 last night, then 7:10, so not too bad.
I think I go to the loo in the middle of the night out of habit, just in case, although a few times I've been too tired to bother.
Highchair, I got a cosatto noodle in the zoodle pattern, it says it's 'exclusive to John Lewis' will be ready to pick up today but OH took car to work, so I'll do it tomorrow I think. Looking forward to her being in it at tea times. Sitting up with us.
I think most pools require a double nappy system, they do for all lessons to prevent accidents. So swim nappy under a neoprene thing that looks like shorts, we have this you can get a range of covers. But we've also just bought a wrap thing to keep her warm. But you still need the nappy cover thing. With the thing Tp was on about you don't need a nappy cover as its built in together. I think it's this kind of thing snug although I've just picked the brand I have. I nearly got a snug thing instead of the wrap but I've already got the nappy cover thing, going to see how the wrap works if not I'll buy a snug instead.
No period here, I thought I was going to start at 8 weeks but it was just some spotting. It's not unusual to not have a period if you're breast feeding.
Cough cough cough today so much for accelerated healing!
Hope u feel better soon 100
We use the happy pants wetsuit bottoms and a swim nappy in the pool but DD1 did do a big pooh in the happy pants when not wearing a nappy when at the beach and it held it all in as the legs are tight. The wrap around wetsuit jacket is veasy to put on the other suit looks hard to? as its got tight arms &legs?
Thanks for spelling sciencegeek I have blocks on certain words and eczema is one of them I spell phonically in my head prob explains why I'm an analyst by trade much prefer numbers
Thanks ssmile. I think eczema is one of the really really awkward words to spell to be fair, diarrhoea is another word that's just stupid. We're swimming tomorrow so I'll have a comment on the swimming wrap after that.
argh builders in-dust everywhere!! glad i thought ahead and covered a lot up with sheets, ds1 fell asleep around 10am on the sofa even with all the noise, still asleep now! will wake him for lunch soon.
no periods here yet,hoping its down to implant rather than bf. just hd some spotting a week or so after getting implant, end november ish
anyone else here still snack lots?
have just made myself a 5a day chart, i get a tally for each of my 5 a day and also a bad tally for all the crappy snacks i eat (yesterday bar of choc, choc cake, jaffa cakes, sandwich....). doubt it will work but am oping if i see written down all the rubbish i eat everyday that i'll cut down at least a bit or swap it for something better
not read all posts but c something about eczema- runs in dh's side of family, only ds1 got it at baby age, got some cream from dr it cleared up and never came back. dd also has creams from dr which she occasionally needs and work a treat
Goddamit, DD had her first swim session this morning and I am buggered if I can find the neoprene wrap anywhere. I am so unbelievably irritated about this! I really need to do some full-on de-cluttering and now that I have some extra energy (thanks to the C25K program and Geekmum's excellent motivational thread ) I am thinking that I am going to do some hard core spring cleaning during DD's next long nap!
DD was a heller last night; she didn't go to sleep until nearly 10pm and then woke four times during the night. I need to do what you do Ssmile and ignore the wiggling. I think I'm too quick to pick her up and feed her back to sleep for an easy life as she quite often has a dead quick slurp and then drops back off again, leaving me wide awake and needing the loo!
100 we haven't got a proper sidecar cot, it's just a normal one with the drop side left off and wedged against the wall to keep it stable so not something that can be easily altered. I might pinch your idea of a cushion barrier though and see how that works, my widgy pillow's nice and firm so that might do the job. I could just have the drop side left down but then I have to actually sit up to get at DD and that's a PITA at 2am.
Anyone else's baby found their feet? DD's toes are her fave new plaything - uber cute - but she hasn't managed to get them as far as her mouth yet. She is getting so good at wriggling around on the floor using her arms and legs to push herself. My mum claimed that DD had managed to get her knees up under herself and her bum in the air as well but I am a bit about that. My mum seems to always be the first to see my DCs do anything new
Sebs I am seriously thinking about the pushchair rocker thing. I reckon a windscreen wiper motor set on slow might do the trick. I have this vision of gizmo where you put the brake on on your pushchair, press a button and it just kind of bounces it a bit, like the motors on vibrating bouncy chairs. I have an old bouncy chair in the loft si I might even try taking the motor off that to see if it's strong enough. Now I just need a good name for my invention...
How about a rock-a-doodle... All baby things seem to have silly names!! You go for it... Think you're onto a winner.
Busy day... Left her with grandad for just under hour for first time... Went fine... He took her for pram walk and then to friends! I had eye test. Then supermarket then rushed back just in time for her feed and promptly the dog ran off. Nightmare. Had to put food away, feed her, she pooed on me so bathed her... And dog still not back. In end OH came home from work and found him in the village.
Any tips on how to get a baby who will sleep happily in arms but wakes up as soon as you put her in her crib to not do that???? After her feed at 1 am she took 1 and 3/4 hours to put her back down... Bit tired today!!! But night routine thing went well and she's had good naps today because of car journeys and walks!!
Oh and yes periods started but then they came after stopped breast feeding. Now on cerazette and whilst doc said I might get no periods I'm currently on my second in 45 days and heavier than normal ones not good...
Oh must go...LO just done another poo ...
TP, we grease DS up in olive oil after bath and it is fab for his skin and non greasy. No period here yet but am still ebf.
Feral, he has kind of found feet, he poed one of them and it twitched which made him jump.
100yrs, good tips for swimming, hope you feel better soon.
Sebs, my LO often wakes when I put himdown so hve started waiting till he is drowsy but awake in the hope he will self settle but the 1am is a killer to stay awake during feed then settle him (I often give in then and let him sleep in bed till 3.30am feed) Glad you found your dog.
We went and fed ducks today, he didn't seem fussed but I enjoyed it.
DS is in door bouncer which he loves but find he needs to be grabbed before head butting door frame which is annoying.
Snacks, yeah if I can, and if I make stuff, erm it goes really quickly!
feral the cushion we have as a barrier, is one that came with it, I have read of others putting the mattress slightly lower than the bed mattress and using a towel to cover the gap. I don't know how safe it is as there would be a lip of bed mattress that your LO could end up wedged next to and no room to breathe, unless I'm over thinking it?
sebs, I think it's the age to be honest, I have read that the 4 month sleep regression thing can take it's form in the difficulty in getting them to settle. I'm not sure how to help.
thanks candr, and you're welcome. We also have a door bouncer, so far she's not come near the door frame, but having read things about it I am very watchful of it.
Had my blood test today for the milk bank donation, I have to be tested for all the usual HIV, Hep B and another one before they can use my milk, and so although I was tested in pregnancy I still have to be tested now for all of them.
Managed to pick up the high chair this afternoon too, and although it's not set up yet it probably will be by tomorrow tea time
I think there was something else I was going to say, but I can't remember. Oh yeah, had a phone call from the HV today who sent in the referral for the TT snip, she put the referral in on Friday, I have the name of the doctor there and although she said it could be a couple of weeks, she said it wouldn't hurt to ring them and say a referral has been put in and ask when it will be and if there are any early spaces. I'm probably going to do that, due to her age and knowing after a certain age it gets harder to do and also because the last 24 hours have been really quite painful feeding and my nipple is coming out a slightly odd angle/shape again. Painful feedings. Plus she's done a few clamp downs, which hasn't helped things!
And I've messed up my hair colour! It was brown, had been red, let this be a lesson, colour b4 might take some of the colour out, but not all and so when I put a blonde colour on, I ended up ginger with yellow roots. I've gone over it again with another one this evening, but as yet don't know how it looks as the light is shite in the flat.
Yep, been trying not to snack so much though since Christmas. It's hard, I feel hungry all the time!
Thanks for the tips re swimming, I really appreciate it. I have a mothercare voucher so will see if there's any wetsuits/ wraps there I can get.
Lo had a right old giggle this afternoon when I was tickling his tummy. He's getting more and more interactive, which is great . We have also started giving him tasters of what we're eating - little tiny bits of sauce or mash potato on our fingers; don't know if that's the safe thing to do but he seems to enjoy it (and the amount is so tiny I'm sure it's fine). We are still planning on leaving weaning till later but want him to get a bit of taste developing.
On phone so can't remember who said their dog went missing - glad you got him back!
100 I found jelonet gauzes cut into squares and put on the nipples between feeds helped a little - I stored them pre-cut in the fridge so they were nice and cool to put on. Please remember what I said about tt - even after snipped it can take a while for lo to learn how to use tongue. I don't want you to be too disappointed as it will work eventually, but perhaps not straight away. Best wishes with it.
100 sorry BF is still hard but I echo geek that getting TT cut will still take few wks to settle down as they have to relearn how to use their tongue. My Lo keeps clamping her jaw on my nipples and it hurts. I keep taking her off with firm No. To start with she just gave me biggest smile now couple times she has cried as her milk was taken away for 20secs. Not sure if it helping or not but her reaction to my NO meant she did understand the tone of my voice I think. I then tried a smiley WellDone when she carried on feeding no clamping I'm prob bonkers but it does bloody hurt!
She had green nappy poo yester day which concerned me a bit, but I think its combination of her feeding lots last couple days as she recovering from her cold bug and teething. I'm hoping its not linked to me calorie counting as I'm trying to do 1500 calories a day healthy eating plus hours walk. Does anyone know what you add on for breastfeeding? I've allowed myself extra 250 calories a day.
Thanks both. Yes I'm quite happy for it to take a while to settle down, but sooner done sooner it starts the tie seems thicker than it was, she can move her tongue around, but the base of the tie looks different, like it's attached wider than I remember.
I've not got cracked nips yet, just very tender ones. Will the jelonet help or does it just help cracked?
Better night. She us taking to the bed time routine well and it's strange but good having an hour before we head up. She is going asleep about 8 and we go to bed at 9 now the same time as the kids... In fact DSS is probably the last to switch lights off now! She also settled better after 1 am feed and settled herself a few times... Guess it takes repition and practice
Think it's 500 extra calories for bf
Dad has on op on his shoulder today... Hope he's ok. Although only shoulder he'll have full anaesthetic and being 74 next week and having pace maker you do worry ....
Personally 100 I'd use them before they got cracked, straight out the fridge so it's nice and cool. May or may not work for you. Sometimes I added lanolin cream as well. Don't stick them under a hot shower either - eek that hurts!
Ssmile I think I read somewhere that it's 500 extra for bf, best do some research... But was also told that the milk would be made as a priority so you won't have done any damage if I am right!
Sebs hope your df is alright today.
My lo had a worse night, up four times, but this morning he has the sniffles so he might have a cold developing, could that have caused him to wake last night?
Sciencegeekmum - we do the same to give DS tasters, he seems to like it but will leave proper weaning till 6m.
Ssmile - we have had green poo but HV said it was all fine, should only worry if it is black or red.
Sebs am at your routine as DS can take from 20 min to 2 hours to settle so loose my evening with DH but do catch up on reading (also read to DS now and he really seems to like books)
We had projectile vomit at 3.30am which covered DS, myself and bed. Had to get DH to change bed, he then dumped pukey sheets on it so had to change again then did DS nappy after we had washed down and DS peed over bed so 3rd set of sheets and covers. A lot of laundry today. I had been in tears after 4 hours of trying to get DS to bed but he kept screaming, was almost a relief when he was sick as I now know it wasn't me being emotional that stopped him sleeping. As soon as he was clean and dry he wanted food again though. Really not sure how long to make him wait after vomit before feeding so let him have a bit and he slept for 20 min then a bit more etc. He is almost back on track and has slept for 1.5 hr now. Hope we don't have a repeat tonight.
I've been trying to find out how many calories to allow myself extra for breast feeding and as per usual lots of conflicting advice on the net! Lots of places say 500 calories used to make milk but your bodies metabolism slows so you don't need to eat that amount extra, the advice appears to be eat min 1800 calories but again depends on your body as we all different. I didn't lose any weight BF DD1 and I'm not losing any now hence my quest to try find out more and nudge it along a bit with out compromising milk supply. I'd be happy losing 1-2lbs a week. I've just done Day1 of the shred dvd was gd and hard work! Hoping that helps too. For those doing C25k How is the running going?
Oh dear candr hope u have better.night tonight
Geekmum hope your LO gets better.
Candr... Yikes bad night... Hope your day has been better.
Just phoned hospital and dad ok... And maybe out tonight. He's going to stay with us for a bit... Be nice to have the company.
Oh LO crying now must go...
candr you poor thing! I hope your ds is better tonight, sounds like a nightmare!
sebs glad your dad's ok, hope he recovers quickly
Ssmile the dreaded shred? I've got it but haven't the guts to try it yet, am only up to week2 in the running so may try it when I've finished week 5 of running! Impressed with you!
sciencegeek I found the shred hard but doable its basic stuff star jumps,skip jumps, pushups etc but I can't run at all! I liked the idea of 20min workout but I'm crap at pushups could only do the cheat ones but surprised myself by doing 2sets of 10 I think its carrying around the babe a lot has built up arm muscles.
sebs hope your dad recovers ok and you enjoy the company.
Hello lovelies, been a bit tardy with MU check-ins ! Rediscovered knitting because dd1 wanted to learn and just knitted a teddy bear with scarf and hat for ds1 - he loves it so much he took it to show and tell at school today (it's really not that impressive !)
So tired so won't do a big update but while I remember, science my degree was public administration which consisted of politics, sociology, law, social policy, health studies blah blah blah. I wrote my thesis on a comparison of public health and social policy in the present day and the victorian era - just really loved the subject. If you like the historical side you would love the bill Bryson book called something like the history of the home - amazing and fascinating. Your degree sounds amazing.
Thinking of you all, whatever trials you are facing.
Minky your thesis actually sounds like something I'd read! I loved all the history about public health eg Snow and cholera, going back further Semmelweis and hand washing. Will try to findthat bill Bryson book, I love his other ones but haven't seen that one.
I need to get back into my knitting, am finding it a bit hard to find time though with DS being a pfb as I am always either playing with or feeding him! Once he's in bed it's housework or running. I really want to try knitting him another sweater, although my mum is keeping us in stock with those, lovely dusky greens and browns too so not just the standard 'baby colours'.
Ssmile I didn't realise it was 20 mins, thought it was 30! Even better!
Sebs hope you dad is ok
Had a terrible night last night
Dd is back at nursery so visited a friend yesterday and feel better for getting out and about.
Have submitted dd's school application scary and weird to think that ds is going to be the oldest at school and yet if born a couple of weeks earlier he would be the youngest. have got Appts through for her hearing and allergy testing so all moving the right way in prep for school.
Haven't got round to booking my smear or implant yet, must try and do that this week. Ds has his third jabs next week
Dh came home and announced he has next week off . I can't wait, lots of rest and family time hopefully.
I use oilatum (sp) on ds, left over from dd, his head is especially bad but also dry most other places.
It's scary that he's growing out of clothes can't believe how fast it goes.
Gosh babe has been feeding most hours in daytime the last 3 days I really hope this is just growth spurt and will pass soon! It's tiring but she also teething lots dribbling and rash on her cheeks &chin. The clamping has eased which is good so less ouchy now
Hope everyone doing ok? Did u see the article on BBC website that breastfed babies cry more. Well I've had two, first one cried loads, this one very chilled out and both breastfed!
I think the sentiment behind the article was that babies do cry prob more than you expect as first time mum but BF babies may be hungrier or need feeding more frequently.
Thanks Sciencegeek, I'll get some, I certainly think coolness would be lovely at the moment on them post feed. I think I'm like you re knitting and PFB, although for me it's crochet I want to start again doing. I've done a couple of little bits, but feel odd when I could be doing something with LO, I think she's getting more independent now and so I'm leaving her play with things more, now she can grab things.
sebs, I've had 2 shoulder ops, both under GA, hope your DF recovers well.
ssmile, my LO doesn't cry a lot, my OH pointed that article out to me, she's a very contented little thing and is EBF on demand. I think it also said that FF babies may not cry as they may be overfull.
Well LO has started rolling both ways more, before it was just a couple of times she went the other way and I wasn't sure she knew how or what she was doing, now I think she knows which is lovely. She's also shuffling along the floor, bum in the air, legs brought closer, push, repeat repeat repeat, moves about 1cm each time! 1 step away from crawling! TOO SOON, TOO SOON!!!!!!
Lunch time for me now, catch you later.
Sebs hope your Dad's OK and that he has a nice time with you.
Ssmile, that's interesting about BF babies and crying isn't it? Mine are the same, DS was a howler but DD is much more chilled. Dunno if that's down to me or them. Good on you for the shredding; I haven't got the nerve but might chance either that or the new Davina DVD once the running has got my fitness level up a bit.
Wow 100 DD is also doing the snakey-wriggle thing along the floor. DS crawled quite early (but then walked very late) so I'm waiting to see if DD is the same. DD also does the sky-diving thing where she kind of lies on her belly with her arms and legs braced up in the air, v funny.
Had second lot of jabs this morning
Snake-wriggle thing, yep, that's a good way to describe it. Yep to the sky-diving thing Hope LO is OK after the jabs.
Snake wriggling my Lo seems to be more mobile if she has bare feet. She can scoot on her back using her legs to push off tends to do it at bedtime on bathroom floor or bed. But she not turning over yet doesn't seem interested too laid back I think she will be 20wks on Fri seems like time is whizzing by........
Who was it that just asked about what to do when they sleep on you but wake up when put into the cot? I meant to say that I use the shush-pat method with DD which works quite well but I have to steel myself not to pick her up if she starts grizzling and I do often drop off myself whilst lying next to her! It worked really well with DS and was one step along the long road of him being able to self-settle. Shush pat works really well for us as DD is a front sleeper anyway and we have a sidecar arrangement for our cot so it's easy to get at her.
My mate swore by the pick-up-put-down method which sounds like bloody hard work and you need to have a very strong back. I think it's a Baby Whisperer thing. For those who don't know, you let them fall asleep on you then put them in the cot. As soon as they start crying, you pick them up. Then rock/ feed/ sing them back to sleep and put them straight down again. Then as soon as they wake up, you pick them up again and rock/feed/sing back to sleep... you get the picture... repeat until they eventually stay asleep when put in the cot. Theoretically you have to do this fewer and fewer times each time you put them to bed and they will learn to self-settle but imo much harder work than lying next to them and rubbing their back until they're in deep sleep!
The same friend used to take off the top she'd worn that day and put it over the crib mattress too so that her DD had the comfort of smelling her!
Alternatively just feed them to sleep, cuddle until in deep sleep then place veeeeery gently in the cot (sometimes helps if it's been warmed first with a hairdryer) whilst repeating through gritted teeth, it's just a phase and these things will pass.
PS Loves are you actually wearing skinny jeans? Or are you just taunting me with your skinny legs and nice bum I have only just started wearing non-maternity trousers!
Even pre-baby I couldn't get away with skinny jeans
Feral - it was me who asked about the putting baby down ... thanks for the tips. Looks like we're doing a version of the put down, pick up thing anway - and it is actually getting easier. Her sleeping is much better now - it's ours that isn't too good - after her 2 am feed, she fusses/kicks/noises every hour - she herself sleeps through but you have to stop her hitting herself or listen to the fussing... so from 2am I'm sleeping for half hour every hour - so you don't ever get a deep sleep... (the first half of the night she sleeps really well). Interestingly, I read an article on 4 month sleep regression (after 100years mentioned this) and it almost described my LO's sleep to a tee...!! We'll get there... and will keep repeating your mantra again and again!!!!!!!!
My LO shuffles about a lot on her playmat and ends up in all different shapes and positions, but never quite in a line so think crawling a way off yet. She still doesn't liek being on her tummy... I actually wonder if she'll go straight to shuffling on her bum and then standing and miss out crawling? I did this as a baby as I was one of those clicky hips babies with double nappies... so had lots of padding round my bum and decided bouncing on my bum was easier than crawling! Maybe my LO has the same idea??
Ssmile - 20 weeks???? Crikey... where has the time gone??? That thread when we were all waiting for our EDD seems like an eternity ago! Mine is 17 weeks on Friday (3rd jabs tomorrow )
Thank you for all your comments re my Dad. He came out of hospital yesterday (so in and out in one day) and is staying with us. Currently asleep on the arm chair and LO asleep in her swing! Mind you, DSD will be home from school soon so silence will be broken!! But lovely having the company espeically as OH is going on the oil rig for the day tomorrow which means 5.15am start and home really late, so will be nice to have another adult to help - even if he can't pick her up, he can supervise whilst I can also deal with the DSKids.
And, the comment re BFing babies and crying - can't see that being true. All babies cry, some more than others, and doubt it has anything to do with BF or not. They should spend their time researching better things - like how to get babies to sleep through!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes, Loves agree with feral ... very of your skinny jeans if you are in them??? I've been on my diet for a week now... but haven't weighed myself so don't know how I'm doing! I've been good though. (Can't bring myself to weigh as I'll be soooo shocked I'm sure!) I usually go on whether clothes feel better or not, and as yet, not much difference... really need to shed some weight though if we're getting married in June... might have to be September!!!!!!!!!
Tongue tie clinic appointment tomorrow. Fingers crossed all goes well and makes a difference. They might not do it then because of age but we'll see what happens.
I used to put LO down in her cot after her last feed for longer periods after a snuggly cuddle. Eventually she settled herself - though thumb sucking helped us, I'd pick her up if she was crying but leave mini whinges unless they got worse. They often did so I'd pick her up. But on the occasions she didn't get worse she'd settle. I found it just took time for her to learn it. It's not easy though and she still has nights where it doesn't work and I cuddle to sleep or almost asleep then put her down.
PS Loves are you actually wearing skinny jeans? Or are you just taunting me with your skinny legs and nice bum I have only just started wearing non-maternity trousers
Yes I am and do you know what, I couldn't prebaby either. They are my first ever pair
Eeek! school applications - do I need to start that now? (as a teacher hangs head in shame at not knowing) No travelling with LO yet though he keeps trying to launch backwards when facing you on lap, agree with the bare feet thing though as is easier to grip surfaces with bare toes. He recovered from sickness and our pick up, put down method is working slowly at night though by 5.30ish is in with me as can squeeze another hours sleep out of him that way
[Envy] at loves skinny jeans too
But I've lost 2lbs in 5days on my calorie counting get fit campaign so feeling like heading in right direction but finding it hard as Lo keeps feeding hourly (just praying its growth spurt) so hungry. Had to get up 3am eat cereal bar &glass milk last night as hungry after feed babe. My legs and shoulder blades ached today after one session of the shred didn't do it today but will try again tomorrow. I walked 90mins in total instead.
Also at those running, I'd like to but body just can't cope with it. I tried before I got pregnant to do the C25k plan but my back just couldn't put up with it. Hope to have a cycle at wend if DH has girls for half hr
Bloody hell Loves! Well done you on reaching skinny jeans status! I am still in maternity jeans but they do keep falling down, I just can't quite fit into my old jeans without a muffin top yet!
100 hope all goes well tomorrow with the tt. I chose not to be in the same room, just next door with me booby out so that DS could feed straight away. They tried to help with the latching afterwards just to check he went on ok. Some people do find instant relief and I hope you're one of them!
Had a lovely day today, infant massage class followed by nct postnatal. However at massage they asked us to introduce ourselves and say something about our babes, I said about his weight being an issue which led to further questions about his birth weight, his pneumonia, my hospitalisation for haemorrhaging, retained placenta etc etc and it made me cry again. I hate people asking about the early days/ months as for me it's still too raw to discuss and I end up in sobs of tears, despite functioning normally at all other times. My DH said perhaps its because I haven't let myself properly cry it out, I keep trying to get on with life, but personally I know it's just an upsetting bad memory that with time will get less painful. I just get a bit fed up of recounting the story again and again as it always upsets me . But on the up side the massage class was great and so was postnatal, some very nice people. Sorry to go on for ages, needed to get that off my chest.
I'm just a cryer, always have been even before pregnancy, so not much has changed!
Ssmile well done with your weight loss!
Oh, sciencegeek I do understand a little bit coz I had a rubbishy birth that didn't go at all to plan and it's taken me quite a long time to get out of my system. I watched OBEM tonight and it brought it all back and made me cry.
Glad that massage was good though I gave DD her first massage the other night and she just looked at me like "err, what are you doing mother?" I used to massage my PFB DS religiously every night and sing to him whilst doing it but poor neglected DD never has before so she was a bit confused!
Has anyone else just watched How to Be a Better Mother on C4? It was sooo worth staying up for; I laughed a lot. If you missed it, I really recommend catching it on 4OD as it was hysterical.
Don't be too , it's nothing to do with and sort of diet and mostly due to not being able to eat much when of so list a bit of weight them/went down dress sizes etc. Tge hard task is keeping it off cause bf makes me sooooo hungry.
Don't worry about crying when you talk about after lo birth. It's good to let it out. I know I've not dealt with ds's yet and just not ready too either.
I've just about put the birth of my LO behind me... also didn't go to plan at all and was very long and drawn out and ended in emergency C section, and took ages to get my head around it all. Probably still haven't completely. I wrote it all down so I wouldn't forget the details and read it again last week after watching One Born Every Minute... and yes, I can now watch OBEM and find it interesting - I couldn't before I gave birth, but now find it avid watching. Although I have to sky plus it as in bed just after 9 these days!!! I've also sky plussed How to be a Better Mother - so will watch that with interest!!!
So, GeekMum - don't worry about crying at all, it's good to get it out, but yes, must be painful to relive it all. Perhaps just give an abridged version if asked - although sometimes it is good to get it all out again, and cry it out... your DH is right. And, write / rant about it here as much as you like - that's what we're all here for!
I've got our first Baby Massage group next week so will look forward to that.
Right, LO is down for a nap (ok, not quite in the cot, but in her sling!) so off for a shower (it's great having Grandad here to watch her!!)
Jabs this afternoon
geek I too had first birth not at all how planned, 42wks+1d, failed 2day induction, emergency section it took me gd year to get my head around it I felt quite traumatised by it. I hadn't realised how much until my sis in law had her baby 7mths after, and that ended in (almost crash )section and I was in floods of tears as it bought back memories. Time, talk, crying do help to move on. With this Lo I chose a planned section to give me more control in the birth and I have no bad feeling about it all so I no I've finally got over it
OMG tried to do shred again after a bad night feeding every two hrs Lo, everything hurt and didn't manage to do all the moves felt knackered. No idea what is going on with Lo she fed every hour yesterday and every two hrs last night...Bloomin hope this is growth spurt as feel like got newborn again! Still have done an hours brisk walk already so now I can chill out
ssmile - with you on the feeding front, is every hour too unless I take him out and he sleeps in car a bit. Is making it hard to get stuff done in house which is a tip and have parents ovr this weekend - eeek need to tidy!
Feral - I watched it this morning - very funny and made me see I am doing fine
Sciencegeekmum - my birth was scary and not what I had planned - didn't even have time to show birth plan as actual birth was so rushed and with big blood loss and no pain relief, is still raw in my mind. I know I want another one but am terrified next birth will be worse.
Am in my size 10 jeans again which is great and have realised I can feed wearing baggy jumpers which is great as only have a couple of nursing tops and got so bored of seeing them under cardi's. Have done no exercies plan but walk lots with pram and spend hours rocking / swinging DS to sleep so think that has helped. Not sure if stretch marks will ever go though.
for the support, I know it will take some time to fully process and I know I'm not completely there yet, but it is frustrating that I can't seem to tell the whole story without tears, and never get away with just saying we had some problems because people always ask the follow up questions! I have written it all down though, but haven't read it again - need to leave it for a while yet.
The feeding every hour happens around the four to five month mark, or so I'm told, which is why many people think about weaning at this point. But it's all to do with growth spurts and building supplies etc as you all know!
Went for an NCT coffee morning today, met lots of lovely mums so had a lovely morning. Going for a run later I've lost nearly 4k since Christmas now, although size 10 was a pipe dream even before pregnancy, I can't wait to get down to size 16 again!
candr I get my parents to tidy for me!
Aahhhhh, size 10. I have some in my loft but I don't honestly believe that there can possibly have been a time in the dim and hazy past when I was that skinny!
Geekmum I am going to show my parents your last post
Candr Yes, we are all doing fine, unlike the nutjobs on that show! I think it's really dangerous to label yourself as a particular 'type' of parent and then set rules that you have to follow. I could see elements of my parenting style - although I hate that phrase - in all of them.
DD has been asleep since 12.30, my parents have got DS and the house is v quiet. Unfortunately I haven't got it to myself though as DH has pulled a sicky as he has torn the ligaments in his knee. He is being a right grumpy twunt about it as well; I would have more sympathy if he actually took paracetamol and ibuprofen to counter the pain but he just forgets so it can't be that bad!
Bollocks. I just wrote a response and then mumsnet went offline and I lost it.
Just to say that after a distinctly 'off' day yesterday (after 2nd jabs) DS is almost back to his sunny self, phew. Exhausting week nonetheless for some reason - I am thankful it is Friday tomorrow and DH can muck in!
The Doc confirmed that DS doesn't have eczema and that his cheeks are just a bit dry. E45 cream was recommended but till I get to the shops I put some of his nappy ointment on them, and they seem better already.
Agreed that memories of the birth can be difficult to resolve and get over - even when ostensibly the birth was not traumatic. Mine being very fast was quite shocking, and it took be some time to forgive myself for the shock - i.e. not having a wonderful euphoric rush the moment that DS was born. Talking about it has helped me - in my case with my NCT instructor, who was lovely and reassuring.
Anyway, the fire is lit and Location Location is on the box. DS is asleep and I have a glass of wine. Time to unwind!
Tiddley ditto, very fast birth, ds was in shock and not breathing when he came out but my 'problem' begins a bit earlier with being pg. Wondering now if I'm trying to over compensate . God help me when I get a job.
Also had an awful few hours following jabs but managed to get her down about 8 ish just as oh came home! Having dad here helped as he could try and soothe LO whilst I made DS kids tea but after shoulder op can't pick her up!! Just hope she sleeps ok tonight (fir her sake - she was shattered after souch crying)
Right off to bed, dreaming of size 10 - mind you I've never been that and size 12 makes me very happy ... 2 sizes to go then
ok 2nd time lucky!
Helloooo ladies sorry I haven't been on again lately! DP was rushed back into hospital Lo is teething and sleep pattern gone out the window and spent today up the council as being made homeless
Have had a quick read through the last few post but haven't got time at the moment to go through them all. LO hates hate hates being on his tummy but has been cheering me up with his constant talking!
Will post a proper message tomorrow
Oh no Jojo I hope your dp is alright?
Loves if you need to vent at all about your experience feel free. I found it really cathartic yesterday.
Feral oh dear about your DH! I hope that doesn't mean you're having to run around after him too much...
Sebs two sizes for me too, but for me I want to get to size 14. Size 12 would be amazing, I've been size 14/16 since I was about 13yo!
Queen yeah he is ok had a seizure at home but lucky his friend was there so he got rushed to hospital hes only been having them for two months and this is the 5th one they say its because they are trying to get him on the right does of medication.
I am also on the weigh lost boat back to my original weigh before having LO but would love to lose a few more stone! currently a 16/18 would love to get to a 12/14 cant remember the last time i was a size 12!
Hope they can get your DP meds better jojo that must be scary, and you get somewhere to live sorted.
feralgirl hope DP doing ok too.
100 hope it went ok at the TT clinic yesterday?
I've lost 4lbs this week (started last Fri) on our scales and 3lb on the Wii machine thank goodness its working as lots of achy leg &bum muscles! I'd like to be 14 on bottom and 16 top, as currently 18/20 top and 16 bottom so about 20lbs to lose..... but I do have to weigh myself after babe fed as my milk filled boobs can weigh 2lb+! I'm eating around 1800 calories, but exercising 300-400 c a day off mostly walking &breast feeding.
Thanks Queen but it's quite a tangled mess including my dad passing away, a miscarriage, difficulty dealing with being pg and my feelings towards ds, an amnio and the ds not breathing when he popped out . Over a years worth of high stress and
depression low mood so I know I need rl help really but can't even keep tge house running as I'd like so struggling to find tge energy time.
Oh Loves you have had a truly horrendous time, no wonder you're not feeling on top of the world. We're here for you if you do want to type, feel free to pm me anytime as well if you think it'll help.
You and everyone else in this thread have really made me feel supported, so thank you. Isn't it weird how although we're all anonymous, I do find it easy to talk to you all and consider you my friends!
Is there anyone near you Loves that can give you a hand with practical stuff?
Geekmum sometimes you need to cry and let it all out, it does sound like you've had a lot of a tough time. Talking does help, even if it's hard at the time and you don't like the crying, I've had counselling in the past and although at the time while I was sobbing my way through talking about something, it helped and I ended up realising a lot of other stuff too which I managed to work through because of initially talking about something else.
Like Geekmum I too think of everyone here as friends too and would love to meet up with you lot
I'm really sorry to hear so many of you had bad experiences at birth, I count myself lucky that mine was fairly straight forward and although LO heart rate was dropping so I had to have an episiotomy to get her out quickly the rest of it was fine. I hope for those of you who didn't have a good time you manage to find some way to work through the emotions of it.
Yep, loads of feeding here too!!! Lots through the night as well. love the growth spurts/developmental leaps don't you!?
jojo sorry to hear about your DP, hope all sets itself out soon.
Sizewise, we're all different aren't we I'm about an 18 now, having been much larger, initially would love to be a 14, think I'd be happy at that.
Geekmum and ssmile for asking about the TT and all the info you have given me.
Well about yesterday's appointment. Had a nightmare getting to the hospital, ended up in tears as I was in the wrong place at the app time and had walked 3/4 mile to the place as there were no parking spots at the hosp and was in the wrong place anyway. Thankfully the lady at the place I had ended up in rang through to the dept and said I was on my way.
So I saw the lovely doc, who asked a few questions, not many, but offered to cut the tie, although he said LO was at the upper end of where he was happy to do it without anaesthetic he did it anyway. He gave her a few drops of some pain relief and was a quick cut, I didn't watch, I was quite interested in seeing it, but it's my baby and thought it might be a bit much. She went onto the breast straight away, and there was no pain for me, considering she was feeding on my more tender nipple, she wiggled her tongue around a bit afterwards, there was a tiny bit of bleeding, but she fed twice without a problem. She has fed really well since, seems to be a bit less gulpy with her feeding and her tongue movement now is quite something, can touch the roof of her mouth now! Yesterday evening she had a really bad evening when it came to bedtime, she sucks her thumb a lot and I think she was in a bit of discomfort and it probably felt weird for her sucking with a big movey tongue, so she was out of sorts for nearly 2 hours, lots of cuddling, rocking, singing, making faces etc etc didn't help bring her round from her sadness. In the end I ended up giving her some calpol which stopped the crying and she then settled down to sleep. I've had one instance of soreness on feeding, but other than that it's been all good. I think so far it's made a difference, time will tell for sure, but it's been done now.
The doc said to me well done for feeding so long, and he also said it was a significant tie, I wish I had looked at doing it sooner for her, her messy eating wasn't because she is a messy eater, but more than likely because of the tie. And could have stopped a few other things like evenings of windy discomfort for her, but we won't know. However if there is a number 2 and they have a tie I will be getting it done early on then, even if things look fine to begin with.
She seems right as reign again today, the discomfort must have gone now thankfully. She's been happily sucking her thumb again Although we had a very disturbed night, so she's a bit tired today, so lots of cuddles for us
Sorry it'n not a personal catch up for everyone. A bit pooped now.
I've managed to capture a full roll on camera, took 15 seconds for her to go from her back, over and back onto her back. There is no leaving her anywhere now!
Had nappy free time last night for 45 mins, put her on a waterproof sheet, she weed once but that was all. She has a touch of nappy rash so trying to stop it getting worse by giving her airtime.
Thanks 100 and I am very glad it went mostly without hiccup yesterday I really hope the feeding continues well!
Nice one 100years - really glad it all went well and things have improved. Another friend's (met at NCT) DS had a TT and it had really impeded b/feeding, so you've done really well.
DH and I are off out shortly for the first time since DS was born. A good friend is babysitting and we're hoping it will be quiet as he rarely wakes between 7-10.30. My fingers are FIRMLY crossed, but if all goes west we are only a short jog away at a nearby restaurant. Will be manage a non-baby related conversation...?
Still no rolling, but some very convincing singing to the Beatles, so maybe he is more musical than athletic!!
Hurrah 100, that all sounds really encouraging. You must be really relieved that it went OK and kudos to you for carrying on BFing whilst it was so tricky, hopefully this'll make it really nice and easy now in comparison
Jojo, how is your DP now? And did I read it right that you're being made homeless? What's happening? And are the council able to help you out? They're not going to stick you in B&B or anything are they, not with a little baby? It sounds like you had a dreadful day yesterday
Loves for you. I really hear you on the difficulty with being pg thing; I spent most of this pregnancy not really wanting a baby and doubting whether it was the right thing to do. I still feel guilty about that now and I know it's contributing to my PND. If you think you need help then please go to the dr (although I am STILL waiting for my counselling sessions to start ) and you know that we're all here for you.
TP on the night out. I hope you're having a lovely time! I am waiting until I've lost a stone before treating myself!
Jojo I missed that in the previous post - you're being made homeless? Have you got somewhere to stay?
Shit, jojo, I read about you being made homeless, but forgot to mention it when I posted, so sorry. Our Landlady will be putting our apartment up for sale at some point in the next month or two, but she's not kicking us out till it sells, still we have it hanging over our heads.
Thanks Geekmum, so far so good (mostly, 1 exception to the rule, but 1 is better than over half of them)
TP, thanks, I hope you have a good meal out, it's really nice to get out without LO, feels slightly odd, but nice to do it. We did it ages ago when PIL were here and we did manage to talk about other things other than just LO. I'm now thinking of when we can do it again. Might wait till she's properly settled again into going to bed, and when OH can put her down without a problem, then it might be OK for someone else to. She's quite cluster feedy in the hour of me putting her down, which isn't a problem when I'm BF, but getting bottles sorted and knowing how many would be key. I'm going to see if OH will try it soon.
Thanks feral. Yeah, it feels a bit serene at the moment, feeding is less 'frantic' but whether that's related or not, I am not sure, I'm hoping it is and it isn't a co-incidence. Bloody hell, your counselling has taken flipping ages.
sebs my periods have been different after each dc. after our 1st I went about 6months without a period while on cerazette, then had one or 2 light-'normal' ones before concieving ds1. after him i went about 3months without a period they were ok but heavier than usual, had mirena fitted then they were heavy. so far this time i havent had one. yet.
saw on this morning on tv that ppl like holly willoughby try lots of different types of pill before finding one they like, perhaps you could try that?
ssmile its said you lose up to 500 calories a day breastfeeding, but I've not looked into how many extra are needed, tho im sure i have about 4 x as much in snacks daily! my (size 10) jeans that had fitted are now getting too tight and it looks like my baby bellys back, but its actually a junky snack belly!
100 so glad tt is sorted! bet thats a relief for you x
ive been geting broody again, but there's no room at the inn! starting to sort/kit out lo's bedroom, though still a couple of months before its needed. trying to find a home for everything that was hidden away in the spare room is a bit of a mare at the mo.
sebs i think. hoping you've managed to (easily) sort out your housing situation, especially with the whats going on with your dp. sorry to hear your news
our 1st was an emergency c-section as she got stuck coming out and forceps didnt work, had gas and air and pethadine and various positions before spinal in op but I was happy with the experience. this time around was much quicker than our 1st 2 and the midwife listened as was so lovely, again an amazing experience. i had an epidural (which only worked on half of me then fell out), gas and air, aromatherapy oils and diamorphene.
our 2nd (ds1) is another story. It still makes my whole body feel strange thinking about it and isnt something thats gets talked about or shared. other than now, on here, with dh and with our last mw.
in short-arrived at hospital 5cm dilated. mw looked through birth plan "you want an epidural?" she asked in a suprised, why would you want one of those type voice. i knew instantly that i wasnt going to get one...........only got gas and air despite asking several times for more pain relief.......ready to push mw saying in a hurried, angry tone of voice "get on the bed" i couldnt get my legs up onto the bed, she kept insisting but I could not do it, I even asked for a stool to help me she was insisting that much but no. so gave birth stood up (HAHA). she communicated terribly. ds1 had mucous on lungs and wasnt breathing so had to be resusitated (same happened with ds2 but not as bad), they got a bed ready on special care but thank goodness he didnt need it. back on the ward the staff were rude (another mum i know had the same experience there with her 2nd too), i told them id lost a big clot of blood. "oh well tell us if it happens again"- no reassuring words to a terrified me.....notes chucked onto my bed. a few mins later "why are you still here" ? "youve got your notes you have to go now"
having a mw who appeared to have her opinion (natural bitrh flat on back in bed) and wasnt interested in what i wanted from my sons birth. and having just gas and air when id wanted much more, i dont think i'll ever feel good about.
i also blame it on the way i felt about my son for the 1st few months of his life (i dont believe it was pnd though). i can NEVER forgive myself for that and feel guilty just thinking about it.
I love him with all my heart, and perhaps am even too soft on him now to try and make up for it in some way, in my head of course though as he'll never know.
my gosh that was long, sorry
Sorry quick post before sleep...
Jojo - god, hope you're ok and home situation gets sorted and DP ok... Thinking of you
100years glad tt sorted
Yikes we've all had some bad birth experiences ... Being here helps
TP - enjoy night out
Jimmi - thanks - think I may ask for some different pill as period still going on day 8 with cerazette. But I'm 40 now so weary of full
Pill. And scary how the midwives we get can play such a huge part in our birthing experiences. I had a bad time of it all but the several midwives I had were great particularly one night shift who actually sat calmly with me explaining plans etc... All you need sometimes is information. But I'd shoot the bloody anaethatist who put epidural in (that failed completely) and gave a second lot that still didn't work but no explanation or apology or anything
What's happened to my happy baby? Thought it was after effects of jabs yesterday ... Happy this morning but grumbly again this afternoon and had over an hour of screams trying to settle her. Managed calpol which after rocking in bouncy chair finally did trick and oh managed to transfer to crib. But wondering if this is still jabs or teething?? Or just grumbly?? See what tonight and tomorrow bring...
Best get some sleep whilst she is sleeping...
Sorry if missed anyone, will post tomorrow better post...
sebs its amazing how far a bit of empathy goes isnt it! glad at least myn apologised the next day for epidural not working. another anaethnatist did leave her house and go in especially to sort me out but by the time she got there it was time to push! at least you had good mw's!
id like to train to b a mw, but our nearest uni that does it is 4 or 5 hours drive away-i couldnt do that regularly and couldnt leave or move the family either so thats the end of that!
jabs, we dont have those til next week,. seems late in comparison to others
V quick - sebs our DS had 2 off days after jabs - hope your lo is back to happy self today!
Night out was terrific - DH told me how proud he was of me and I had to try not to blub DS didn't wake so confident we can do another eve out in the future.
Happy weekends all and hoping 2012 brings luck, happiness and maybe a little bit of fortune to us all!
TP - on your night out... and awwww for your DH and what he said. That would make me blub too.
Jimmi - I've just reread your account again (was a bit tired to take it all in yesterday) and god, it just makes you realise what a position a midwife has. She can make or break the relationship you have with your baby. I must admit, whilst I was there and even now, I've even thought about doing midwifery - just becuase you can see what an important and life changing job it is - done the right way, with empathy as you say. I've only managed to watch the first half of this week's OBEM but the blonde midwife who was helping the woman who had a bad first experience seems brilliant - really understanding what the woman was going through - must admit, I felt for her too, it brought back my birth experience as it went on for days, and you just get soooooo fed up and want the baby out soooo much. Looking back at my whole birth experience though, the one person I think pulled it all round for me was the senior Anaethatist (must learn to spell that correctly) who came the final morning - after I'd had the failed epidural in the night - and did the cold legs check, and then apologised for it not working. When they decided on EMCS I was very scared of it not working again - but he explained I'd have a spinal - and he looked right into my eyes and said "and I will make sure it works, you have my word"... he could see how frightened I was. All through the C section he explained what was going on and was just really positive. I think that helped to pull what was a really negative experience around and not leave me too scarred. But, I'll never forget the 12 hours of stopping the pushing urge (after 2 days of labour) with full on contractions and sciatica in both sides of my back with no pain relief. It does leave you shell shocked, but everything is worth it when you see your baby!!
NOt a brilliant night - she did sleep till 2am and even settled after the feed. But woke a few times with real tears and a few screams again... managed to get her down again but she doesn't normally react like this. She is usually a happy baby. I think the jabs have really affected her this time, and hopefully it's worn off now. I also think she gets to a state where she is over tired, and is fighting sleep and this is where the screams set in. I think if she's missed her afternoon nap or it is too short, I'll feed her earlier than normal and try and get her down earlier (normally it's around 8 to 8.30, but I'll aim for 7.30ish) and see if we can curtail the screams before they start... it's all a learning curve I guess, and I just hope I'm learning!!!!
She seems happy this morning - but then she was yesterday morning!
Is anyone else's LO making like straining noises??? She does this - seems happy enough whilst doing them and no, she isn't having a poo either!! They turn into happy noises too so think there is nothing wrong, just really loud!! Ooh, she's just managed to turn 270 degrees on the mat somehow, when I wasn't looking!!
Very frosty morning - white all around. I've got my brother and his girlfriend up this afternoon (with my Dad). OH has just announced he's done the first task on our "weekend to do list" - fixed a drip!! (We're doing these lists every weekend even though we're neither of us lists people - but finding it helps when there is so much to do!!)
Have good weekends everyone - and yes, 100 it would be lovely to all meet up one day!
And, jimmi please please forgive yourself for how you felt. You sound like you have a wonderful relationship with him now, and you can't be responsible for the awful treatment you received from the staff in hospital.
Just wondering if it's ok to join in with you all! I've always followed this thread and previously the ante natal thread and very occasionally posted, but the past four months since lo arrived have been mad to say the very least!
However, things are hopefully starting to settle now (touching everything vaguely wooden) and I would love to be part of the gang now that I might have more time to post! You all seem like such a lovely bunch!
Planning on taking lo for her first swim today so will report back!
Hope you're all having great weekends x
Hello again sarah - I remember you from the bump-months! I', also recently back on board after 3 and a bit months of fun with DS - remind us when you had your LO and whether DS or DD?
Hope you enjoy the swim - it is most definitely on my to do list (especially as a new shimmy shiny pool has recently opened up the road from me) but before we go I need to replace my pre-preg two piece with a more roomy one piece - ha ha! DS is all ready however, with a wet suit and an inflatable seat thing. I will be going with a friend and her DS as she tells me it is useful to have an extra pair of hands getting in and out of the pool!
Just quickly, and on the subject of mws/health profs and their role in happy (or otherwise) births - when we arrived at triage I was told I was not in labour (just 3 cm) and 'wasn't coping with the pain very well' (I had just been sick). I was told to go home, but if I couldn't 'cope' I could stay on the ward and have pethidine. DS was born less than 1.5 hours later - so If I had taken either piece of advice I would have a.) had an unplanned home birth or b.) had a baby affected by pethidine. Given he was born by forceps as his heart rate started to drop towards the end, I dread to think what would have happened.
I was so glad that DH's support had allowed me to believe in my own instinct that the labour was progressing fast. 10 mins later a consultant walked past, took one look at me, and took me to the delivery room. Grr. I am lucky that I do not have any negative emotions towards the birth - but I do doubt that all medical staff are as tactful, perceptive and compassionate as they should be.
Oh yes good idea, should have said - I have a DD, born on 19th Sept.
We've had a rough ride due to her having silent reflux which started at about 3 weeks. We have recently discovered that this has been made worse by her being excessively tense due to being so low in my pelvis towards the end of the pregnancy, therefore she has had basically a bad headache since she was born
So these things in combo meant for a very unhappy baby, poor little poppet!
However, she has been on medication for the reflux for a while now and just recently we have had four sessions with a cranial osteopath which seem to have done her the world of good and perhaps the key to our progress. Finally her little body is more relaxed and her smiley personality is at last starting to shine through!
It's been a long road especially with this being our first baby, so we've been stuck wondering what's normal / if we're being too anxious / conflicting advice from docs & hv's and off course having a screaming baby does take its toll!
But I hope we are now emerging on the other side, I'm very lucky to have a fantastic DP and hugely supportive family and friends and the biggest thing I have learnt from all of this is to trust my instincts!
Sorry for long post but that hopefully covers our story in a sort of nutshell! I must say it has been hugely helpful to see all of your posts even though I haven't been involved, just to know there are others out there going thru similar things
Wow, lots of sad stories on here but great that you have somewhere to share them. I don't mean to negate anything that any of you have written but my cousin just lost her baby at 5 days old. I have been in floods of tears for her but also the relief when I look at my DS and he is happy (most of the time) and healthy it makes everything I have been through pale into comparison. My cousin knew her baby was high risk and may not make it so each moment they had was precious and makes me feel like a grumpy cow for sweating the small stuff. I think what I am trying to say is just take a moment to look at your LO and smile to yourself at how perfect they are even when they are screaming bloody murder and no matter what situation you are in you would not turn back the clock. This doesn't mean you can't grumble about the sleepless nights and moan about DH not getting up during the night but count to 10 and breath knowing it will all get better in the next 10 min or next 10 months. Sorry if this is depressing but her loss has made me feel very reflective and grateful.
I'm sorry for your cousin's loss Candr, how awful for them and of course the whole family. I couldn't read your post without tears in my eyes.
I am very much enjoying this bit, my lo has been feeding very well on me with no pain, and on the whole seems very content. Add to that my running challenge which is going well and I can say I'm happy .
Now just need to convince DH that I don't need to go back to work in June...
Oh candr, that is just awful. I cannot express how sorry I am to hear of your cousin (and your whole family)'s loss. I have just been upstairs to peek at our beautiful sleeping DS and it made me cry.
I was going to ask you all for your opinion on a silly 'mummy pressure' issue - all of my NCT friends (we meet every week and are now good friends) have booked, or already attend various baby classes. These vary from baby sensory to water baby to tiny talk. They are all regular and you hand to book ahead for multiple classes. I know I am being silly but I feel a bit anxious that I haven't arranged similar for DS. This is due to a combination of money bring unconvinced of benefits over and above a 'normal' baby-hood of family/friend visits, play, walks, toys, singing etc etc that we do at home.
Do you guys do classes with your babies and can you recommend any or should I go with my instinct to leave such things till they are toddlers and a bit more 'capable'?
Sorry for crap grammar/spelling in above post - bloody phone kept predicting words and I didn't proof read! Hope it makes sense.
That's so sad candr, very sorry to hear that, it really does put things in perspective and make you appreciate what you have. Thoughts with your cousin and your family.
Tiddleypompom i have just started a baby class with my lo, it lasts for 6 weeks and is like a mixture of baby yoga, massage and just general songs and play, it's all to do with helping to relax baby and helping me feel more confident so it seemed particularly relevant to us. I've also signed up for the free baby massage classes thru the local children's centre, anything that can help lo stay relaxed is what I'm going for
Other than that though I don't want to get too booked up as we try to see as much of family and friends as possible thru the week.
Well lo's first swim went well, it was quite busy and it seemed like she was trying to take it all in but she did really well, at least she didn't cry!
Candr so so very sorry for your cousin. Your words have reminded me just how incredibly lucky I am.
TP I had a four month check for DD yesterday and the HV gave me a guilt twinge when she asked me if I was doing any classes with her and I realised that I have done bugger all yet! Our local children's centres run all sorts of exciting classes for free (I find any 'private' stuff that has the word 'baby' in the title is insanely expensive ) and I have resolved to get out and about with DD a bit more now she's more alert and will enjoy it more.
However TBH I am not convinced that taking weeny babies to stuff like that makes very much difference to their development at all; I have friends who did baby signing whose kids don't talk any better than DS and a friend who paid £££s for baby yoga with no apparent benefits! DS is more confident in the water than most toddlers and he's only ever had the cheapo lessons from the children's centre, my SiL paid a fortune for Swim Academy lessons and her DDs still can't swim!
IMO the main beneficiary for baby classes is us as it's nice to meet other mums and, like you said, the most important thing is that we sing and talk to our babies. DD gets dragged along to DS's local play session but I don't think she really cares where she is, so long as
my boobs are I'm there!
Queenrunninggeek I'm so glad you're . Me too atm. This running lark is bloody brilliant isn't it? I only lost 2lbs last week as I'd been a bit rubbish with the diet but it's all movement in the right direction. I am getting the horrors about going back to work though; I think I'll prob have to go back after the Easter hols. DH and I are doing the split parental leave thing and he's beginning to get impatient for his turn!
I'm in agreement with Feral on the classes. Basically if you want to do them because it gives you more confidence interacting with your dc, allows you to meet other mums, baby has specific needs etc then they're a really good idea. If you're fine with singing, talking, playing with lo and get out to see friends then they're probably not for you. I haven't booked any and don't intend too as my days are pretty booked up as it is! I do baby massage but that's a free course and more for me then ds.
Candr just wanted to post to say how very sorry I am to hear about your cousin's baby. I can't imagine what she must be going through and my thoughts are with her and all of you as a family just now.
Jojo so sorry to hear you're having such a difficult time at the moment. How is your DP doing now? Have you managed to find somewhere to live? It all sounds terribly stressful so hope you're okay. Just remember we're here if you need to vent.
Hi Sarahseager. Welcome back and nice to see you
100years it's all sounding very positive about the TT snip. Hope it continues and well done on BF with the TT for so long. The getting lost at the hospital sounds a bit stressful but glad it all worked out okay.
Sebs hope your LO is a bit happier now. My LO isn't making any straining noises apart from sometimes when having a poo. Could your LO maybe be a bit constipated? Or if she seems happy enough maybe she's just experimenting with some new noises
Tiddley I echo what others have said about baby classes. If you want to do them and can afford it they can be a nice way to spend some time and meeting other mums but I absolutely don't think they'll have any impact on your DS's long term development either way. I did waterbabies with DS1 and we both really enjoyed it but it was pretty expensive. Now I have two DC's it would be impossible to do lots of baby classes even if I wanted to but am not worried as I know DS2 will be just fine with the things we can do at home.
Sorry to those of you having trouble coming to terms with your birth experiences. I didn't post my birth story and it was a bit traumatic ending up with forceps with just G&A and a local anaesthetic! The doctor who delivered DS2 had a horrible attitude and when stitching me up after kept telling me I was feeling pressure not pain and was just a bit rough with the whole process. Then discovered I hadn't had the full dose of local! So yes it was pain I was feeling you stupid, stupid man! That feels a bit better getting that off my chest. I think I've put it behind me though and am just so glad DS2 got here safely which is the main thing.
Well my baby is sleeping so I'm heading off to the land of nod before the first night feed.
candr That's just about the worst it could get for any parent, my thoughts are with you, your cousin and your family. It certainly does make you think again and realise how lucky we are, and I certainly gave my LO more cuddles after reading your post. Hoping you are ok...
Thanks for comments - LO seems better this weekend, so hoping that my happy baby is back and it was the after affects of the jabs - this time going on for a couple of days (but as it was the 3rd jabs, guessing there's more there to react too). The bed time routine seems to be better too, and she seems to want to go to bed earlier (around 7.30) so that's good. Might give us an hour or so before getting the other kids off up to bed and bed ourselves too! Her naps in the day are regulating (a bit) but she still doesn't seem to want to nap for that long (unless in the car, pram or any motion) - maybe about half hour. YOu get the occasional longer nap... but generally it's getting better and I'm getting better at being a bit more structured
Re baby classes - Haven't done any and haven't booked any either - although will be going to the freeby Baby Massage one run by the HVs this Thursday. There's also some "sing and rhyme" sessions in the library in the nearest town to me that are in Welsh and designed to get non-Welsh speaking mums (like me) to learn some Welsh songs! MIght pop along to some of those as would like LO to learn more Welsh than me (which is some, but not fluent). But, don't think I'll book any paying classes - haven't the time and as I'm in the middle of nowhere not the most practical. Also, again, like others who have said here, not sure of the benefit at this age, and think the classes are more about mums getting together. A friend of mine has just had a baby, and has a friend who has a 6 month old, and I've another friend who is due end of this month - so hoping we'll all meet up occasionally for baby chat and "C Section" stories (as we've all had one, and my friend is booked for one too). The local primary school, that DSD goes too, also has a playgroup every Tuesday afternoon, which apparently you can go to from any age... again, might go to this but will probably wait until LO is 6 months old.
There is also some baby signing classes in the next village - but this is aimed at babies 6 month plus and they start now. So if they run again in a few months might go... I'm quite interested in this as friends of my OH did it with their LO and was effective - not to improve speech but to stop the frustration a baby can have when trying to communicate but without the ability... if only to learn a few words...! I saw their LO use it when she was around 12 months and it was effective...
Watched half of that "How to be a Good Mother" - hopefully will watch other half tonight. Does make you think that there are sooooo many different types of parents!! I'm up to the placenta mum!!! COuldn't believe the home-schooler - she looked amazing after 6 kids, but doubt it was down to her stretch mark cream!! (Stretch marks are hereditary, so cream is never really going to help!)
HOpe you all having nice weekends... we had a lovely hour long frosty walk in the forest this morning - LO all wrapped up in the baby carrier taking in the sights before dropping off!
Oh, and sorry... Welcome back Sarah!!!
candr your poor cousin, I hope they can find a way to process that tragedy. It does make me very grateful for my two beautiful girls. Some friends of ours lost their Lo at 20d old 2yrs ago, they now have a beautiful 8mth old girl &4yr old but their lost Lo will never be forgotten.
Our Lo had 3rd set of jabs Fri and ended up having 3lots of calpol over 24hr period she was really out of sorts and today still having upset tum nappies. I guess this set of jabs had something that our Los have reacted too. She been a lot sunnier today.
In terms of classes I'm not doing anything at the moment. With first DD I did swimming lessons, from 3mths but they were expensive and tbh she learnt far more just going swimming once a week with us doing 1:1 now babe is more interactive I may take her swimming now at local pool as it does cheap baby group, plus there are music with mummy classes which are fun for babies 6mth+ and coffee &cake after for mums. I'm hoping to go to a "sling meet" at the end of month as I'd like some help with my moby wrap or try a few others to see if more suitable for me. Also a chance to meet some other mums.
Sorry for not responding to everyone but just wanted to add my thoughts to everyone else's - candr you and your family are in my prayers x hope you get strength from all around you. Hope everyone that's in a dark place at the moment finds a light to guide them out very soon. I was talking to a friend tonight and we were commenting on how many people we know in dire situations - not sure if it's because you notice the sad things happening more in January but whatever the reason it's very sad.
We are doing okay but having little issues I guess. Lo still doesn't sleep for long at night time - 4 months old and still up to feed every 2-3 hours during the night. I am ebf but the hv this week suggested i may want to consider giving a bottle in the evening if I want a bit of a break. Tried it a few times and lo doesn't mind but not sure it makes him sleep any longer! Tonight he is so wingy and upset, I just couldn't calm him and he seemed in pain but he has now dropped off to sleep (not a moment too soon as I was beginning to feel my edges fraying!)
Dh turns 40 next Sunday and has been so unhelpful in helping to suggest what he would like to do or receive - in the end I buckled and gave in to his request that he can go snowboarding for a week with his friends but now I am in a panic as he may be going in 3 weeks and I am wondering how the heck I will cope with 3 kids and all the school runs/ clubs etc on zero sleep - if any of them are ill I think I could just lose the plot ! Anyway, it's a big big gift as there now will be no money for my 40th in the summer or for a family holiday - am a little cheesed that I was pressured into this as it is his 3rd holiday with mates and I haven't been able to do a thing with my girlfriends for several years ! Oh well - wish me luck ! Anyway, enough moaning from me, off to investigate the crying sound from downstairs - let's hope it's the tv and not a child !
Thanks everyone, she has lots of family around but Oz seems far away at times like this. My family came round yesterday and spoilt DS more than normal with cuddles.
On the sleep front we are having some success. Decided to get tougher and let him cry in crib a bit before picking him up, he only cried for 7 min then slept from 11.30 to 4.20, did the same last night, he cried a bit more but was mainly temper then slept from 10.40 to 5.20 without even waking for food. I lay next to crib and patted back so could see it was temper and tiredness not anxiety. DH had to remind me that he sometimes screams for longer than that when we try to rock him to sleep so I relaxed more.
As for groups we do playgroup once a week and have made nice friends there, also do rhyme time and will start swimming when weather warms up (he is 4m)
Wow, a LOT of posts. Hi again Sarah Welcome to the other side
Sorry it's not a personal catch up - although I do want to say sorry to hear about your cousin's loss candr I hope you all find a way through it.
Someone mentioned straining noises, yep LO does those, I think it's when she is either trying to move around more, trying to sit up that kind of thing.
And with regards to groups etc, I take LO to a swimming lesson, but that's because I love swimming and I wanted to know what I could do with her in the pool, and how to play in the pool. The lessons we go to, there is actually now only me that is in my 'group' so it's one2one atm, although when she moves up to the 6 month group there will be possibly 3 in the group. She already shows signs of what she is understanding in the water and loves the lessons, so I'll keep it up. I also don't want her to have to wear a rubber ring, and learn to swim when she is older, I kind of want it to be a natural thing, which if I continue with the lessons she will naturally start swimming and be able to swim before she is 4, she'll also have learnt safety awareness in the water as she grows with the lessons. I also go to an art group thing, but that's more for me and getting out and having new toys to play with (paints etc) but I don't think she is going to learn anything specific from it, it'll just be a fun thing to do with me. Other than that I don't do groups etc, I might start going to a bumps and babies NCT thing, in fact I was going to go this morning, but LO slept in, so I wasn't up in time.
Feeding has been mostly really good over the weekend. I don't think she's quite learnt her now tongue yet, but on the whole the feeding is less painful than it was recently and more chilled out.
Are other babies starting to need more interaction, LO seems to get frustrated more now, because she can't get to things she wants as she is aware of that toy being over there and wanting it. She's happy rolling around for a while, then she gets fed up. She practically never fails to grab something now if it's within her reach, and if it's just out of reach she seems to get to it being within her reach. She also grabs things with two hands if I hold her above something and she brings it (and everything else) to her mouth!
We've had a few meals with her sat in the highchair, which has been lovely, nice for her to be at our level and eventually it will lead to us all eating together.
Cold is now gone, so it'll be back on with the running plan.
Minky DD also wakes every 3 hours; I think that's more 'normal' than babies who sleep right through tbh. DS was much worse and didn't sleep through until he was 9 mo so I'm not going to stress about it at all.
Hurrah for your cold being gone *100, see you over n the running thread
Right, DD has just filled her nappy so I'm cutting it short! Will be back later on.
The quality of my sleep has decreased too. If I'm luckly she will go 7-11/12 but then up every 2hrs to feed and she is hungry its not comfort this is definitely full on 4mth growth spurt. In evening she feeding hourly from 3pm. Her jabs really upset her this time. Last night wasn't that gd and I gave her calpol again in morn as red hot cheeks.
We had three firsts today. Lo went in the door bouncer and loved it. I got highchair out of shed and washed it all down and fitted booster seat. Lo loved sitting at table listening and watching eldest do her phonics homework start them early I reckon she also watched me intently eating a pear so when I was finished I gave her the core bit to suck on and she loved the juice her little tongue licking away. I hadn't any intention to wean before 6mths but she looked SO interested and she enjoyed gripping the juicy pear piece. She is 20 half weeks. I don't know whether weaning at 6mths is 24wks or calendar months therefore 26wks? Tbh I think I will just follow Lo lead and offer minute bits to lick if she looks interested.
Off to bed now early night as body just aches from doing the Shred dvd and from last nights poor sleep. Hope u all have good sleeps zz_zzzz
Ssmile I previewed the shred yesterday and decided it was too much for me! Will wait till I'm fitter
My lo has been waking up every 3-4 hrs overnight for a feed as well, but at least at the moment he goes back down quickly.
On phone so can't remember who said it, but lo is also frustrated, grabbing things with both hands and shoving everything into his mouth!
He managed to go 9 days without a poo, so today we had an explosion poo everywhere, on his trousers, socks, vest, chair, changing mat... Had to do a top and tail wash followed by a bath, it was that bad! Still when he passed it it didn't cause him any pain, he was quite satisfied with himself!
We have the third injections tomorrow, am hoping they'll be ok
Feeling terrible today with painful booby so called hv who told me to go see bf counsellor. Really helpful one to one session which resulted in loads of info and a diagnosis of a blocked milk duct which is on the cusp of mastitis - counsellor told me to stick nipple in very hot water for 10 minutes and unblock the duct with scraping the tiny pinprick dot I have away then feed lo on all fours to let gravity help and the boob be pressure-free - basically all sounds like self punishment and I have to admit I don't feel too hot ! Boob now less solid but feeling very bruised and sore ! What I did discover that may help other bf mums on here is that the 4 month stage of bf is tough because it's a time of massive brain development which means that babies often go off feeding because they are too interested in what is happening around them and get distracted. My lo has been going hours sometimes in the day not being interested in feeding but then wants to feed all evening - that's because the milk gets very calory rich in the later part of the day (also why many people get blocked ducts at this stage because the milk is rich and thick and can block more easily than the thin thirst quencher stuff.) I think because lo has been fussing he didn't drain the breast properly and left behind the curds of the milk which has blocked the duct. I am feeding my way through the pain ! Lo is 17 weeks on wednesday and counsellor told me that I should go with my instinct with early weaning so I am considering starting lo on baby rice.
That's interesting about the brain development as although mine is bottle fed she's difficult to feed at the mo as she's looking all around her and if someone else us in the room she follows them with her head.
Still doing the weird throat scraping noises... She's not constipated (goes about 3 or 4 times a day!) and it's not when she's having a pop either!
Minky - hope blocked ducts get sorted, sounds painful.
Geekmum - at big poo ... Bet he was very pleased!! My LO has a new trick... You get her out of the bath, tuck her up in towel and go to her room and put her on change mat and just as I pat dry her... She wees !!!! Every time. Washing no end of towels. I end up dipping her back in the bath and going like the clappers to get her nappy on!
Ssmile - hope LO feels better soon. Think these 3rd jabs must really upset them. But to bouncer and sucking a pear. My LO seems to be starting to be interested in what I'm eating. Shell be 18 weeks Friday but want to wait to 6 months too but would be ok to start gently after 5 months... But I'm not sure either if 4 week months or calendar months??
Right, bedtime ... Night all ... Off to see my friend and her 3 week-old tomorrow - the one born early who wad on bye lights in special care for a while but home and properly discharged now. Got another friend being booked for c section next week - again early but waters are getting very low. She's tried for five years to get pg and managed thus time on 4th round of IVF so my fingers and toes are crossed fir them.
Sorry on phone... Poo not pop and blue lights in special care that meant to say!!
minkyj hope pain eases its horrid when that happens I had awful time with mastitous first babe but touch wood not this time.
I may go ask HV advice on weaning as my Lo is hungry, I'm exhausted with feeding her my boobs are emptying and she keeps biting me as if to say is there more (i think). It's too flipping hard to be feedin hourly in daytime and two hourly at night with another one to look after. Sorry had bad night and Lo just gone to sleep at 7am and I've got to get up for school run when all I want to do is crawl back under the duvet and flipping migraine brewing. Could just sit and cry this morning Hohum best get up...hope u had better nights
Just wondering about 3rd set of jabs, do they have 3 injections at this one, if so where does the third one go? Sorry if that's silly question
Lo is just over 17 weeks now and we're still waiting for the elusive laugh/giggle/chuckle, she does kind of big wide mouthed silent ones but wondering if all her pain has held back her laughter! Hoping it will come soon!
Also I was wondering what your lo's do as hunger cues as that's one thing I've never really had from my lo apart from when she was tiny and had bobby head. I know all babes are different but would be interesting to know if I'm missing something after all this time!
Sarah- the jabs all go in thighs - 2 in one and the other in the other leg. I find my LO chuckles when I directly look at her chuckling at her, guess she's mimicking. It's hilarious. Also my LO gies from happy to crying really quickly for food... Very few other signs!! She's bottle fed so could take a while to make a bottle up so now I try get in there before she's hungry. She used to go every 4 hours but now it's about 3 and 1/2 in the day.
Ssmile - know how you feel! Had about 10mins sleep after 4am... She just fussed so much but slept herself!!! Woke up after a shower but will crash later I'm sure!
Thanks Sebs. Yeah I tend to feed every 3 - 4 hours too depending on if we've been out and about as she can get quite irritable without any hunger signals I guess if it's working I shouldnt worry about it!
Thanks for the jabs info too!
I may curse the school run at times but actually that 30min walk this morn has done me good and really perked me up.
Some advice please from those using bottles. What flow teat are you using? I have very fast flow breast milk and I'm wondering if one reason we struggling to get her to take a bottle is slow flow teat. May try get some faster ones today and some baby rice.
We use Dr Brown stage 2 (medium flow) teats ssmile - these are from 3 months and we have no problems with them having moved up once LO got frustrated with stage 1. In fact, he would pretty much refuse the bottle in the end - not a happy bunny as you can imagine. Your instincts are probably right there.
sarah our DS does give us a few signals that he is ready for a feed (though similarly to sebs he will go very fast from smiles to crying if we miss them!). He will cough a couple of times, and then start to kick his legs/flail a bit. Since he's been more dribbly he also produces more dribble (which sometimes gives him hiccups). We are feeding every 3 hours; still breast/formula combo.
ssmile I hope you get some respite with a cuppa later today
By the way, thanks for thoughts about clubs/classes etc. I think that, because I am not going back to work (for a couple of years anyway) I feel less of a rush to do things than some of my friends who are going back after 6-9 months. I also just don't feel I can commit to a particular time each week, as DS sleeps every 2 hours (and gets really unhappy if he gets overtired), and his naps times are all a bit awry lately (this started last week - I've noticed he has started to rub his eyes and face, which wakes him up...).
Anyway, I am just looking forward to the weather getting warm enough to play outside. We have an allotment, which has a large grassed area with apple trees and I have been planning to walk up there during the summer and let DS crawl about ) Also going to grow lots of the veg he will be eating by then - carrots, squash etc. We already have raspberries, strawberries, apples and damsons so it'll be great fun trying new tastes!
Brrr. We went for a walk this morning and I haven't thawed out yet.
Ssmile we've been trying DD on mam bottles and number 2 teats but she really ain't having any of it; clearly if it's not boob then it's just no good as far as she's concerned!
The HV suggested that, since she's four months, we could try her with a sippy cup so DH had a go with a little weeny Heinz one with a soft spout the other day which he said went OK and she was kind of coping with getting a mouthful of milk and then swallowing. Guess it'll take practise.
Sorry it's tough for you atm, maybe a growth spurt that'll settle in a week or so? DD was the same last week and I was bloody knackered. It is so difficult keeping up with two isn't it? By the time DS was this age he was in a lovely set routine that meant that I would always have three hours to chill in the afternoon but now I have to exercise a hyperactive toddler so DD gets dragged out instead of getting a decent nap. I hope your migraine isn't too bad
DD is doing full-on belly laughs these days at pretty much everything, she started smiling really early though. I am rubbish at telling her sleep cues as she just goes from having a giggle to yawning her little head off in the blink of an eye and she just gets a bit grumpy when hungry, she's not really a cryer like DS was.
candr sos orry to hear that. cannot imagine how upsetting it is for anyone, must have broken your hearts. love to you all
feral - ah yes, the running thread. Got visit to family this week, so after that I will go and start again. Have been eyeing up the 30 day Shred too, could easily do that at home in the morning while LO plays or sits in her chair watching me!
ssmile, we have a door bouncer baby too she also loves it. And it's lovely having LO at the table. Sorry your sleeping has decreased again. Isn't pear supposed to be one of the least allergenic foods there are, so it's a good starter, or have I read that wrong. Like I said to feral I'm thinking of shredding.. I hope your migraine comes to nothing, they are the pits aren't they.
Geekmum, I think I said LO was frustrated, lots of grabbing and not able to reach everything she wants. 9 days, wow that's epic, the longest we have had is 5 I think. Mine was fine after 3rd jabs.
Minky, feeding on all fours, that sounds like some kind of twister position. Hope it all helps you though. Yep, my LO does seem less interested in the boob, but then we've had that off and on for a little while.
sebs, enjoy the new babies, and hope your friend who is having CS is OK.
Sarah, when my LO had her 3rd jabs, she had the two given in one leg first then the third in the other leg. Re hunger cues it's hard to say now with my LO, I can't think off the top of my head.
TP I'm at people not going back to work, I think it's great, I wish I didn't have to, although I am going to look at changing my hours so I can do part time and probably work evenings so I don't miss LO in the day, but I'll have a 2 week FT course to do when I first go back, and I'm really not looking forward to that.
So, we've been swimming this morning, it was fab.
LO has properly properly found her feet now, this morning she was more interested in playing with her feet than having a feed first thing, mind you she had had 3/4 hour feed off and on between 5:45 and 7 this morning so I suppose she just wasn't that hungry at 9am when she woke up! She's found them before, but this morning was a proper interest in them.
AF has returned. Gah, she's only 4 months old and I'm EBF!!! I reckon that stopping the expressing (therefore technically giving up a daytime feed) has brought my body back.
And I had a mobile hairdresser come round just now, she's sorted out my hair colour and given me a cut. The cut and colour are good, or at least they look so after she's done it, will see what it's like the first time I do it. The only negative is that she is (and said so herself) a little dizzy, but I can overlook that. It was nice to have it done, but why do hairdressers feel they need to fill all the silence gaps, I'm quite happy to sit there at times and just have the hair do done, or is that rude of me?
Corr loads of posts to get through so just posting quick reply here whilst watching eastenders.
Mastitis/blocked ducts: I had this early on as I was expressing using hand pump and not emptying boobs well. I found that hot compress and massaging the lump helped a lot. Whilst in a hot shower push on the lump/where it hurts. Be brave and suck up the pain and really push hard on it to clear it.
I gave DD a suck of pear last week too. I left the top of it and ate the skin and let her suck it but not for long though as I read that you shouldn't give babies sweet stuff to start weaning.
I was going to look into shred but I seriously am soooooo lazy!!! The wii fit has gathered dust too and I was thinking of getting Zumba on it. The belly flab needs to go before June when I go back to work!
Distracted baby all round here. DD has also mastered the art of bubbling/spitting. I can only feed her when she is sleeping. So my day consists of a constant battle to get her to sleep to feed her and to stop her from screaming! Come 5pm everything is fine and she'll sleep through until about 4/5am whence the battle begins again because she's wide awake talking v loudly in her Moses basket and refusing to feed or sleep!
Omg everyone seems to be leaving eastenders! Time for Holby. Happy shredding/running everybody.
Hello sorry yet again I haven't been on here lately
Thank you all for your kind words regarding my DP who is on the mend and fingers crossed his medication starts working and stops him from having any more fits! And also regarding my living arrangements went to the council as I really cant afford to rent a place and have to wait till next month!! for an appointment then it may well be at least 6 weeks in a bnb or a hostel.
LO had his 2nd lots of jabs today and is very out of sorts think its also a mixture of teething! He has learnt that he has hand and feet and stares at them for ages, he is also very ticklish and has a real dirty laugh!
Re baby groups I haven't been to any yet but do go and visit my best mate whose LO is one month older than mine.
Re weaning I dont understand why it is now recommended that you wait until they are 6 months when it used to be 3 and why the baby food in the shop say 4 months + ???
Candr im so sorry to hear of your lost in the family words can not describe how your cousin would be feeling right now.
As for dieting Im still using the kinect and walking for what seems like miles everyday so thats good enough for me and my hat goes off to you all that goes jogging I get out of breath thinking about it lol
Sorry if I've missed anything my brain really is not working properly at the moment
Oh that's awful jojo. Do you think HV or children's centre may be able to help you? I know the children's centers around here have special sessions for those who need help but have never had to call upon those services. Maybe they know a way you could fast track to be seen?
Weaning was brought to 6months as at 4 months the kidneys are not developed enough and many wheat and dairy allergies start in children weaned early (according to some studies). Well that's what I read but what people choose to believe is up to them . I personally believe that you can tell when your baby is ready and to do it then and not when the HV tells you what s/he has been told to tell you!
Anyway hope you get sorted and settled soon Jojo. Good luck with the council.
Jojo that is appalling that the council would consider sticking a family with a tiny baby into B&B. I am bloody outraged on your behalf. Any chance the CAB can help you out? Our children's centres also offer a similar service. I really really hope that you can get something sorted soon.
Like pixie says, I think the weaning guidelines were changed not that long ago due to new research and the baby food companies never really caught up. Plus I suppose it's in their interests to get us buying it as early as poss isn't it?!
There was a study a few months ago that contradicted all the 6 months advice and advocated early weaning due to the theory that babies can become anaemic on a milk only diet but I think it was fairly widely discredited. I'm sticking with the WHO guidelines that say 6 mo; I'm certainly in no rush to do all the extra cleaning up that weaning entails! I'm praying for a really hot sunny spring so that we can do lots of meals in the garden
Mmm a hot sunny spring...
Jojo, hope something turns up for you, must be really stressful.
TP andFeral was wishing for that myself today - look forward to picnics and realised the warm weather should come at good time for baby led weaning with LO playing with food, can do it outdoors lots. Got told by HV 6m so that their systems are mature and less likely to trigger an allergy. Off to get weighed tommorow, was 14.3 2 weeks ago so am putting money on 14.12
I don't want to wean before 6mths but after two weeks of at times relentless feeding (hourly in daytime, and two hourly for most of night) my Lo "growth spurt" feels like its endless at times, the other growth spurts have lasted 2-3days. My friends Lo is doing the same she was off to HV to ask their advice. I'm seeing her tom so be gd to see what they say. If my DH gets home by 6pm he was going to try with a bottle. I tried last night but she just chewed the teat and dribbled the milk out.
On the fitness front I've done the shred level 1 5times now, its best dvd I've ever done for results in 20mins really makes you work hard if you get technique right phew! But I've nearly lost 7lbs now in 2wks and my jeans are getting looser so healthy eating working too and the lack of sugar is helping my energy levels.
Can't wait for my Lo to find her feet she not there, still waiting for her to turn over! I've been putting her on her back more but she really does prefer to sit up and watch the world go by.
minky massage any lumps while feeding (or if u find that hard express some into a cup while u massage-or do it in te shower, u dont even need to keep whats expressed), for me it worked and they went away and were ok within a day or 2 xx
fera i also read somewhere about the study and lo's becoming anaemic. research is being done now tho 2 c wether advice needs changing.
jojo weaned our eldest 2 at 16weeks, theres a lot of pressure around now tho (i feel anyway) not to wean until 6 months.
weaning i have finally decided, as our eldest are ok, that i shall ignore all the 6month pressures and try lo on baby rice 2moro lunchtime- he'll b almost 19weeks old. as we're on the EAT study he cant have any of the allergenic foods (eg milk, fish, wheat) until at least 6months old, then just introduced one at a time (didnt know that bit with our eldest 2!)
ssmile well done you!!!!!!! big clap and hug!!! and our lo hardley has any time lay down either, tho im trying tummy time for a few mins everyday now hoping he'll roll over soon but we'll c. he doesnt seem interested in going side to side, more just wanting to go forward (or araound in circles)
Will give all the advice a go. Managed to clear it on Monday but it's cone back again. Just been on Facebook and am now in panic mode as the little boy who was all over lo earlier today has now got the vomiting bug ! That would be awful at any time but it's dhs 40th on Sunday and we are meant to be going out with friends for dinner on Saturday night. I so hate this time of year !
Morning all. Sorry to hear of mastitis issues minky - I sympathise as had it twice in one boob and what felt like constantly blocked ducts. Massage helps but is like pressing a bruise
DS made it past 7kg this week (15lb11oz) at almost 17 weeks. Je is a big boy and I too can imagine weaning pre-6months though will take HV advice and watch this board with interest.
DH was unsuccessful at dream feed last night - lo didn't want to know - and he didn't wake till 5.15am. He settled after a b/feed and woke again for morning at 6.30. Not bad at all - I am considering dropping the dream feed altogether as it appears he is big enough to sleep through.
My Mum over today - planning to do some baking and pop out for a hot choc at local cafe. Will be lovely to see her.
Hi all, lots to catch up on!
Jojo hope you get some positive news soon regarding your housing situation.
Minky sorry to hear you're not feeling too good, hope the mastitis clears up soon. Hope your LO doesn't come down with anything.
Well done Ssmile on your weight loss, v impressive!
100 stop being rude and have a chat with your hairdresser! Only kidding. I think my hairdresser is excellent and it's because she senses whether clients want to chat or not. I like a good natter
It's really great to hear all your thoughts on weaning. I seem to be hearing different things from different places so am going for the 'whatever I feel is right' approach, which at the moment is giving LO things to play with. Yesterday he was sucking on a king prawn (so much for allergies!). The only nono I have is bananas, both my DH and mil have mild allergies to them and they were a big trigger for my morning sickness, so will steer clear of them! LO is 19 weeks and I think he's getting really frustrated at not being able to do things.
He had his third jabs on Tuesday, cue lots of crying tues and weds. I always feel I have to try and justify his crying to onlookers, by saying what's up with him - really it's none of their business! But I get annoyed at people saying 'ah, bless him, he's hungry' as though mothers are notorious for starving their babies, when he's just tired and overstimulated. Anyone else get this?
I echo what RunningGeekMum says - JoJo really hope the housing situation sorts itself out soon - can't believe they're not prioritising you with a new baby???
SSmile - wow, great weight loss, am jealous. No idea how I'm doing as too scared to go on the scales!!! Must be brave so I can start monitoring how I'm doing.
Minky - how mastistis sorts itself out soon.
Am sick of this Cerazette mini pill. Had a period in the first month that lasted about 8 days. THen last week bled for about 9 days. Had 4 days no bleeding, and now have started again???? Just done a quick search on google on "Cerazette and bleeding" and there are loads of this - either you stop completely (which my doctor was quick to tell me) or you get long periods - some almost constantly. What's the point of a contraception if you bleed all the time? So, am going to come off it and go back to the docs to see what my other options are. I'd go on the pill, as long as it's safe to do so (as I'm 40). See what they say.
Well, LO is now going from about 11.30 / 12.00 midnight to 8am with no feeds... it's just a pity she doesn't sleep that whole time! She semi wakes up about 4.30ish, fussing and starting to cry... she needs rocking to go back off, then does this pretty much every 45 mins until 7ish when we get up. No idea why - she's not hungry.
And re weaning - I'm hoping to go the full 6 months before weaning BUT I'm not sure LO will last until 6 months. She's started to really stare when we eat, and used to go 4 hours between feeds - now going around 3.5 hours and really wants her next bottle. Just getting hungrier. She's 18 weeks on Friday so not sure she'll go to 6 months!!! But, I'll keep looking for signs. If she does go beforehand, I'll keep it simple due to risk of allergies.
Did anyone know if it's 6 calendar or 6 lunar months?
Got baby massage class this afternoon!
Following on from what Sebs said, what are the contraceptive options post birth whilst bf? I never got this talk from the doc as she was more concerned about pnd. Just starting to consider perhaps letting DH dtd within maybe the next year...! (does the feeling of apprehension go at some point? Will I get over the feeling of violation from the birth and other issues?)
Hope you get a solution Sebs, I don't think I'd want to put up with that much bleeding!
My friend spoke with HVf who said 18-20wk period is tough if BF as its big growth spurt but it should settle down abit. My LO is 21wk Fri and the last two weeks have been really tough endless feeding BUT last night was much better and the last 36hrs have been less intense Feeding so I'm hoping we are coming out the other side as I do want to wait until 24wks before starting solids. The horrid smelly nappies post solid food is gd incentive to wait goodbye sweet mustard nappies....
I had mirena coil fitted (am 39) wasn't pleasant having fitted and bled daily for 30days but since then last two months nothing. So think its going ok for me.
Ssmile that's somewhat comforting; lo has been feeding a lot more recently and he's 19 almost 20 weeks now. Although last night he went through the night with only one feed at 3, so improvement there!
<shuffles in, bleary-eyed and grey-faced, trying not to bump into stuff>
Ohhhh I am so very of all these good sleeps. DD is on a big backward slide and is currently waking every 1.5 hours at night. What has happened to my lovely sleepy angel who only woke once a night? Obviously she's got a big ol' spurt going on but it's just ruining me!
Interesting about the 18-20 week thing, DD is (I think) 19 weeks so that would make sense.
100 I am with you on the hairdresser/ conversation thing. One of the reasons that I love my hairdresser so very much is that he would rather die than ask me where I'm going on my holidays. He is a taciturn Glaswegian and a bit of a moody bugger which suits me fine!
Minky how's the mastitis? Must be miserable so I'm hoping you're better soon.
Re contraception, tbh I'm not bothering. I didn't get my periods back until DS was 9mo and really properly weaned so I'm going to just chance it. What's the worst that could could happen after all? I might end up with another scrummy baby and a load more maternity leave
HUGE congrats on the weight loss Ssmile, really really well done
Jojo how's the housing sich going?
Thanks for kind words on my weight, this always happens though I start off and lose 7lbs in two weeks then its like my body goes woooh I'm not doing that and then next few weeks I only lose a 1lb a week, got another 20lbs to lose so in for the long haul. I've found the my fitnessPal app really helpful in tracking calories and exercise. So I think ooh I can have a crunchie bar but need to do a 30min walk to compensate
feralgirl I really hope your sleep improves soon that's very hard doing every 1.5hrs. I feel very grateful this babe is far better sleep than DD1 its making big difference to the quality of my life this time around.
I'm not big fan of hair dressers either. I always have dry cut takes 15min max and the girl I use is lovely.
My Lo finally rolled over today from back to tum, and we all missed the first time! I'd laid her on bathroom floor on towel whilst getting her ready for bath took her nappy to bin was 20secs came back in and she was on her tummy looking confused she had been rolling onto her side all week so I knew she do it this weekend.
Hope you all have gd wends.
Thanks for all your well wishes lovely peops - still not fantastic but hanging on in there. Lo woke for feed every 1.5 hours or more last night and is very fussy. As it's been like this for weeks I buckled and gave a tiny bit of baby rice tonight - I know they say not to but the research showed that from 17 weeks the kidneys can function fully. Spoke to alot of other mums and reminded myself that dd1 and dd2 were weaned alot earlier - also read something talking about how they always put a longer time frame on things as some mums will always bring the timescale forward so if they say 26 weeks, people will usually not wait that long . Anyway, lo wasn't too impressed on the baby rice front - alot of gagging and looks of disgust - will see over next days whether it helps. I am so tired that something has to work !
Dh and I are out tomorrow night for the first time without lo. It's dhs 40th on Sunday so out for a meal with friends sat night. I am letting dh go snowboarding for a week with friends in early feb and have planned all his favourite foods for Sunday - Scottish fried breakfast Sunday am (easier said than done finding lorne sausage and decent black pudding in the south! ) then cake mid afternoon and then fillet steak, dauphinois potatoes, spinach and bernais sauce followed by apple tartlets and then a cheese board - washed down with some very fine wine and champagne and probably indigestion and a hangover !
Lo not settling so must dash - hope you all have good weekends