September 2011 babies, making more noise, more mess, but growing more amazing by the day.

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Hey, here we are again, moving on to the next round of exciting things our little babies are getting up to. :) I hope no-one minded my title, but there hadn't been a big decision and given we were so close to the end I thought I'd just go for it.

I shall update stuff from me tomorrow.

Thanks Candr and Sarah... Sarah - your wedding sounds like it will be gorgeous - what a location!!!! Bet you get guaranteed better weather too!!!

Yes, I try and avoid eye contact, so once she's in bed, I'll just say goodnight, give her a kiss, then settle down on the sill, reading my kindle! She occasionally cries, and I'll get up, soothe her, give her back her dummy, then sit down. Very occasionally, I'll pick her up and wind her, but again, straight back down. At the start, she always cried too, which is why I stayed in the room. You could start with putting her down, then leaning over soothing her. If you do pick her up, make it quick cuddle and down. Then few nights later, try just standing there so she can see you. Then few nights later, move further away - they say to sit next to the cot at the start, then few nights later, move the chair further away etc - we just don't have the room for that, hence the window sill!!!

Maybe try give the night time bottle earlier, so she won't fall asleep - and aim to put her to bed awake. I don't know, it's so hard... so many things to try and you just have to find what works for you and LO I guess.

Last night, DH stayed with her for about 20 minutes, but she wasn't for settling, so he left her, and within 5 minutes she was asleep! So, maybe she didn't want his company!!!

Good luck, anyway... and cute on the kissing front!!!

Oooh! I really want DS to start kissing. Unfortunatly he leans forward with mouth open ready to sink teeth in (in a friendly way with big smile). Am trying to teach 'no biting' but he doesn't really seem to get it as he can bite toys, food, cup etc but not people or other items.
Had some success last night. DS down by 7.15 and didn't wake till 9.40 (had 4oz), 12.30 (bf), 4.30 (small bf) and up at 7.
Has been down nearly an hour with no noise yet so am hoping we are over the 2 hour battles to get him asleep. (bet I have jinxed it now )
Sarah, I have a stool that I tried sitting and reading on with the aim of edging out of the room over a few days but he seems more distressed if I am in the room.

Hello back from our very wet and gail force windy hols was SO glad we upgraded from usual caravan to a cottage this time I fear we might have blown away otherwise :o still we made the best of it and its just nice to get away from home for a change of scenery. The obligatury wasgij puzzle was completed as is now our tradition DH&I usually spend about 4days doing it, it just sits on the table with us taking it in turns to do between childcare :) Lo loved the stairs and kept trying to constantly climb up them, plus she has seriously found her "I WANT THAT!" Screech if we take something from her she really wants. Eldest DD1 rode her bike for first time properly with out her stabilizers which was a very proud mummy moment. We had tried at Xmas but she was too wobbly but this hols she rode good 500m+ to end of lane and back.

Hope those battling sleep problems can keep trying. We tried the gradual retreat chair in room technique lots of times with our eldest with mixed results, even slept on her bedroom floor, then our hallway for months (gradually retreating!) anything to get some rest. So you all have my heart felt sympathy.
I made some progress dropping breast feeding in the day time, feeding after breakfast at 9am then offering beaker formula through the day and not breastfeeding again until after dinner 5.30-6pm. Babe started to eat more solids but Still only taking 60mls of formula in cup. Once I've had couple of good sleeps I'm going to be brave and try switch bedtime breastfeed for cup, I think this will be a lot harder, but so far its taken 3-4days for babe to be comfortable with each feed I've switched.

Right off to tackle washing mountain.

Hope all the new daddies enjoy their first D-day tomorrow :)

Yay MrsL, that sounds like such a lovely day. I'm so glad the weather was OK for you.

And I'm glad you had a nice hol Ssmile, hurrah for the bike riding, that is such a huge milestone

Well, our sleep has gone from bad to worse this week and is now pretty unbearable. Apart from the random full night on Monday, DD has woken at 3am-ish most nights and then alternated between screaming and grizzling for 2-3 hours while DH and I bitch at each other about the best way to deal with it On Thursday she woke at 1.15 and DH had to go to her three times before she finally dropped off for proper at 5am (I slept in the living room on the futon as I was due to have a full-on day at work on Friday so I did get a reasonable kip).

Then last night we went over to my mum's so DD can get used to spending nights there before DH and I go on holiday without her in July. My mum was convinced that she was going to deal with her and DD woke at midnight, chirpy as you like, and my mum gave her a bottle. It all went downhill from there and in the end, after having an argument with DH, I drove home at 1.45 and slept at our house leaving him to deal with DD.

So when I went back there in the morning to help with breakfast, my mum was all pissy with me and made me feel even more guilty for leaving the DCs there while I went home and got 4 hours kip. I feel thoroughly shit because DH is getting way more support from his mum and my parents than I ever did with DS or with DD, despite the fact that I have only had a couple of full nights' sleep in 9 months and he's only been doing the nights for a few weeks.

DH got a lovely long lie in this morning while I have looked after the DCs and done school work so I am feeling very sorry for myself and totally hard done by! I know this is just because I'm so tired and that is making me all melodramatic so I'm sorry that I've just whinged and ranted [*]

And he'll get another lie in and breakfast in bed tomorrow too!

But thanks loads for that gradual withdrawal plan Look, DH says that he likes the idea of it much more than the CC that we had been planning. Think we'll start on it tonight so I'll let you all know how it goes.

Sorry, I've been a bit AWOL. Busy week, coupled with LO having a virus (still got it) and me getting an ear infection.

Yay congratulations thenewMrsL :) brilliant stuff. Really happy for you. Is it all different now you are married or is everything the same?

If the little bean sticks in me then I think we will start planning the wedding after the 20 weeks scan. Not to get married while I'm pg, more like end of next year, beginning of the following year, but I've got a good few weeks to go before we do start talking properly.

Mixed results from the self settling. She has been more settled through the night so I think if she rouses slightly she will drift back off, but will now wake if she's hungry. This evening she went down quite quickly, but it's been mixed so far this week with a couple of proper screaming episodes. :( but I'm hopeful it will get better. It hasn't helped that she's not 100% and that we had an hour long car journey the one day at 7pm so that screwed it up really, so might have been back at square one again last night. But like I said tonight was much better. I've not yet braved moving far from the cot yet, and I'm not doing daytime naps yet, but I'm sure we'll get there. Hope it works for you feral :)

Nearly passed out this morning, never done that before with an ear infection before, so I don't know if it's a pg thing or a combination of both. it was a case of get onto the floor or fall down!

feralgirl hugs I read your post partially out to my DH ooh it bought back memories. We never argued at all until our DD1 arrived and SO often was awake 1-5am in the night, night after night for years. Sleep deprivation sends you mad, so huge hugs. All I can offer in comfort is that the baby is proberly wired that way, you will eventually get through it but just do what you need to survive. I found it easier once I accepted that was what she was going to do it wasn't my fault or DH, so we had to grab naps, rest whenever we could. Even 15mins nap/shut down sitting in my car at work on lunch break. We are both hugely grateful this second baby is a lot easier but equally I've been a lot tougher mummy and have just left her to cry on occasions as she does go to sleep within 20min max most times our eldest just never did.

LookAtHerGo hope you and baby feel better soon. I had awful virus that had same effect on me, sit down or pass out. It was horrid, I really hope with pregnancy you can get some rest and help with baby.

Well I resisted feeding baby at 2am as I had given in abit for peace on hols and she resettled in 5mins and then slept till 5.50am :) she seems to do a 7-8hr stretch between breast feeds but not longer at moment.

Some advice please what do you do in your bedtime routine when bottle/cup feeding? I want to get DH to try for 3nights in a row to put baby to sleep with a cup (to break association with me&BF), but we also thought it was good time to introduce a bedtime story as she is showing an interest now in books. Before she just chewed them but now will actually look &listen abit. So to break the BF to sleep cuddle we have now we thought a cuddle, cup and story would be nice. How long does your Lo take to drink a cup and how much formula? I normal BF for anything from 10-30mins so I've got no idea on formula feeding timing as during the day she plays with the cup takes sips mostly not a concentrate and drink feed.

Thanks for hugs Ssmile; I need them today! Sorry, I am def not the person to give advice on formulas/ cups/ bottles as DD is perfectly happy to have a cup when I'm at work but as soon as she knows I'm in the building then she is like a limpet on me!

Well, so much for any kind of sleep plan. I BF'd DD last night as usual and then put her in her bed and she went absolutely bonkers. Screaming and screaming and screaming, while I sat in the chair holding her hand and shushing her. Honestly, it's even worse than listening to her cry from the outside of her room because when I'm in there then I can see how miserable she is So after 40 mins of that, I was crying almost as much as she was and I walked out of her room and sat on the stairs as I really couldn't take it any longer.

I realised that actually, the only reason that we are doing any of this sleep training at all is so that DH and I can go on this stupid holiday - which isn't even a holiday, it's two days in Sorrento at a friend's wedding, where DH is working as photographer and I know no one else - and my parents can look after DD and DS while we're gone. If we weren't going then I could just BF her in the night, have her in with me when necessary and basically just follow my instincts and get more sleep as a result; clearly she's not ready to be completely away from me in the night so why should she just for the sake of a trip that I don't particularly want to go on?

So when she woke last night I let her grizzle for 10 mins and, first time, she settled herself and second time I went in and fed her and she went straight back to sleep. I didn't go back to sleep as clearly my body clock is so messed up that it feels normal to be awake from 3am - 5am but at least we weren't all listening to DD howl for hours.

I know that I cannot stand another fortnight like the one we've just had as I am so exhausted that the idea of work tomorrow is making me want to cry. I need to be able to drive to school every day without causing a horrible accident so if that means that I don't get to go to Italy then so be it. I feel much better now that I have made this decision and DH has finally accepted that I mean it when I say that I don't particularly want to go. Telling our friends will be hard but they'll have kids soon so then they'll understand!

Sorry, done two massive me, me, me posts in the last 24 hours; it just helps to come on here and get it all out though!

xxx to all the dads out there; DH has had a lovely day today!

Thanks Ssmile. LO is a snot monster and I'm still wonky, but I'm sure we will be OK. Going to try and rest this week when we can, and I think I will cancel our swimming lesson this week and put it back a week. Re the cup/formula, I have no idea, like yours, my LO doesn't really drink much from a cup, its weird, she will have a couple of sips after food, but that's it really. I'm hoping to try giving her some formula in a cup. Even when we have given formula (in a bottle) she will wake up an hour later and want feeding from me! I don't know what will happen when I'm actually out of the house!

Aw feral, thats a tough decision, but I'm glad you feel happier with it. :) IT is horrible being next to them when they are screaming. I myself know LO has a couple of distinct cries, if it's a whinge I'll leave her and shhh her, when she gets into screaming not happy something wrong then I pick her up. We've only been doing it a week so far though. But I will be soon working when it is her bedtime and so we need to get her very used to this before the time comes. I don't want to be trying this in a months time and realising we have left it too late.

Feral. Yet agin our LO are mirroring each other. Have had some good nights where he stays asleep till midnight ish and will sleep again after bottle but ends up in bed by 4.30, others he screams for 2 hours going down and then won't sleep after feeds either. I put a post on parenting about it as DH and I talked and said that we would rather DS came into bed with us if it is after 12pm than I spend 2 hours with screaming baby.
He gets so worked up he can't calm himself even with me there and even when he does seem to be asleep as soon as I leave room he screams again and I was becoming a stressed zombie. (DH doesn't 'do' night wakings)
Basically I have realsied that he may not be great at sleeping on his own as he wants to be with us for 2nd half of the night but it is everyone else telling me it is a problem that makes it one. If we are fine with him in our bed then it is not a 'problem'.
I am sure that as he gets older he will sleep for longer in his own room or will understand better that he should stay there. Give yourselves a break and do what works for you not what everyone else says you should be doing. It feels like a weight off my shoulders knowing I am not doing something bad by having him in bed.
Ssmile, I started giving DS bottles during the day and some bf so he got used to them as he was feeding less from me during day anyway. I try to give him long bf after lunch some days so we can both nap on sofa. He has bottles at bedtime and whenever he next wakes for feed then I bf if he needs more thn that but that is also less than it used to be.
He is going on to a timetable of bottles at 9.30 (4oz then nap) 11.00 (6oz if needed), 3.00/4.00 (4oz then nap), 7.00 (6oz then sleep), 11.00 (5oz and reducing it slowly )or whenever he wakes as it is in thermos in room. He is taking to it well but I still feed occassionally as feel I am not quite ready to give it up though the biting has got worse. I think it is when he doesn't really need the milk and just starts playing.
Look, hope you are feeling better. Ear infections are rotten and every illness seems worse when you are pg.
Good luck tonight all

Sorry Look, I was too busy moaning to register that you'd been really ill! I hope that you and DD are getting better now?

Diet schmiet; DH has just gone out to get take away for us as his father's day treat

feralgirl I hope not going to Italy helps with stress levels,and you can just do what feels right with sleep.
candr sounds like you doing the same. I wish we had been so sensible with our first. We wasted months trying to get our DD1 to sleep as we thought it was the right thing to do, where as actually it was utter stressful waste of time I think with hindsight! Looking back we must have spent the best part of TWO years trying to get her to sleep in her bed&bedroom overnight from 2.5yrs - 4.5yrs whereas I wish we had just done what my sister did and make a middle of the night bed next to our bed for her to sleep in. Instead we slept next to her on the floor. But the one thing I can say our holidays was great as our eldest slept alone in a double bed in her own room in the cottage for 11hrs straight, a fantastic first for us all :)

Right best go to school....happy Monday all hope u had some sleep last night

Look - hope you are feeling better, and DD too.
Feral - I think your decision makes a load of sense, and I hope you do what feels right. DH is going to Houston in July with work, and asked if I wanted to go too. Everyone was saying how wonderful it would be, but I just thought "10 hour flight with 10 month old, being stuck there in the day with her - in heat and humidity - what's to like???" So definitely not going.

Candr - good attitude! I think we're doing something very similar. She stays in her bed as long as possible, but there usually comes a point when we bring her into our bed, and she stays the rest of the time with us. Works for us ... we all get fairly goodish sleep - and some nights she stays there longer than others (i.e. anytime from midnight to on rare occasions 6am!!). And Ssmile what a great idea to make a baby bed in their bedroom... might consider something similar if our LO continues in this vain, but only in the future. We might just have enough room at the end of the bed!

Ssmile - not sure if this helps. Our LO has been bottle fed since about 10 weeks old, so obviously well used to it. Her bedtime routine is currently bath, then a bottle (from 150ml / 5floz to 180ml/6floz depending on how much she's had in the day) and then up to bed. She takes about 5 minutes on the bottle, but we don't give her milk in a cup - I give her water or water/juice in a lidded cup with her meals. I'm still giving her milk in bottles though.

Well, DH left 5am off to Algeria again - back on Wednesday evening or Thursday. Done a tonne of cooking for LO and then a choc. cake for DSD's sports day tomorrow - bit early for a sports day, but I think the weather will be ok, so hopefully it'll go ahead. Been one of those haven't stopped kind of days - just having 15 mins sit down on the laptop until I start making tea.

Hope everyone has good sleeps tonight!

Good effort on the baking MrsL but for no MrL for a bit. Our school sports day is next Monday too; I can't wait, it's always a brilliant day (weather permitting). Are you going along to watch?

I like the idea of a little camp bed for non-sleeping Los too Ssmile, we've never needed it for DS fortunately but I'm beginning to wonder about DD! I was thinking fondly last night about how easy it was when her cot was in our room and am tempted to bring it back in again until this current phase is over!

However clearly she is feeling a bit more secure as she only woke once last night at 11pm and then slept from 11.30 - 6.30 so I got 7 hours uninterrupted sleep which was just blissful! I can cope with her waking once and then going straight back to sleep, especially since she seems to be having a proper feed each time so she's obvs not yet quite ready to go 12 hours with no milk.

Ooh, Feral, that's a lovely sleep! Well done!

Yes, went along to Sports Day - weather wa great, sunny all the way through, and just on the walk home it started to cloud over and rain! DSD did well - won the egg and spoon and the flat race! And, her house won, so she was happy! Soooo sweet seeing the nursery ones in the dress up race.

Well, LO has a new way of getting around - her crawling skills are a bit rubbish, but she's started to bump around on her bum! She's pretty good at it, and moves around pretty well, so me thinks she'll be a bottom shuffler - just like her mum! (Although, I had clicky hips and wore 2 nappies at once, so had extra padding!)

Hee hee, DS was a bum-shuffler until he was 18mo. It was such an efficient way of getting around that he just couldn't be arsed to walk! Drove me bonkers after a while as I was lugging a toddler + shopping from car to house and I bloody knew that he was capable of walking if he'd just put his mind to it!

Glad sports day was fun I'm gutted that, as a teacher, I'm probably never going to be able to go to either of my DC's sports days Unless I have another baby that is and time it for my mat leave to be in the summer...

Hello, again. :)

How are you all? We have moved house since I last looked in here.

DS is very well and is into everything at the moment! His crawling skills are excellent and he seems determined to explore every nook and cranny! I took my eyes off him for literally two seconds the other day and he opened a kitchen cupboard, climbed inside and shut the door!

I am also very pregnant now (29 weeks tomorrow) and my bump is pretty much as big now as it was at 35ish weeks last time.

Is it just me, or is it bloody boiling at the moment? DP says it isn't so bad, but he is not a 'hot person' anyway. I am clammy, sticky and hot, all day and all night at the moment! I have just ordered a fan online and DS is sat just in his nappy.

I was going to say something else, but I have forgotten what....

Grrr twice written a post &phone crashed turned itself off oh dear i hope its not broken I can't live without my phone I love it :)
cake hope you settled in new home and pregnancy goes ok. I'm in vest, tshirt and fleece today so not its not hot in Devon brrrr.
feralgirl& MrsL we got sports day on tues, my first as a mum oooh er just hope babe behaves and they let me in with her. I had hoped to meet DD1 new yr1 teacher today and tour her classroom for next year but no siblings allowed not even baby in sling, so I can't go as I've got no one to watch her as other mums going too. It's just frustrating having all this time off work but can do virtually nothing with eldest at school as have baby :(

We had mixed week, baby yet another snotty nose bug, grrrr fed up with them barely a week gone by since Xmas and someone in the house not ill. So very mixed sleep, I had hoped to ramp down BF at night but if anything its gone up again this week.

Off to meet friend at park today so hope weather is kind. hope you all have happy Fridays.

Cake, time seems to be moving fast for you on here but I remember it starting to drag around the 29w mark so hope yr doing well.
Feral, can you swap PPA time with someone to get time out of school, hope when I am back in classroom I will be able to do tht as hate idea of missing all school things - bet parents evenings even fall on same nights!
Ssmile, DSis snot monster again too but getting better each time about nose wiping and eating less of the tissue now.
MrsL, always found bum shufflers funny when working in nursery - gives them strong legs though! If it works then why would they do something more energetic? DS commando crawls but it uses so much energy with inefficiant movement.
Well have moved DS bedtime to 8.30 ish to try and get him to stop waking after half hour with mixed results but on the really good side he is only waking once for a bottle anytime from 12-3 then again about 4.30 onwards when I dont bother trying to get him back down so he is in our bed but will sleep till 7 now. He has twice slept till 6.30 in own cot after night time bottle so yeah for progress. Feel more human now I am not up 5 times plus a night.
Can now add waving to his list along with clapping and kicking balls (though anything on the floor including people are now fair game for kicking)
He is pulling to standing on everything and walloped head really hard on wood floor when he let go from standing at stair gate - the sound was awful but he only cried for a few min and I kept close eye on him. Horrible for first big head bump.

Ssmile, your DD's sports day sounds like the Olympics Can't believe they won't let a baby in fgs. That is a bit ridiculous imo.

Candr great idea about the PPA but my school is signed up to the 'rarely cover' agreement and we were told in no uncertain terms that it meant that we wouldn't be allowed to make arrangements such as swapping etc as it breaks the terms of the contract. It didn't really bother me at the time as the benefits of hardly ever having to cover my colleagues' absence seemed so attractive but now I'm beginning to change my mind...

Good effort on the sleeping progress Baby steps are what it takes... for poorly head bump. DD seems to bash hers all the time but doesn't seem to even notice any more. She is much tougher than DS was!

Well, night times here haven't changed at all. DD still wakes once, sometime between 11pm and 4.30am, and refuses to be touched, talked to or even looked at by anyone except me It is trying to say the least and I am beyond knackered now.

On the plus side, she stood up by herself and took three very wobbly, unaided steps yesterday before sitting down very carefully with a face on her! She's loving pushing the brick trolley around too but isn't too adept at controlling the transition from hallway carpet to tiled kitchen floor; the wheels tend to get away from her once there's less resistance!

Hi everyone :)

Well I've got my first scan in 3 weeks time, eep, at least it's not an endless wait, last time seemed to be forever, although maybe its got something to do with the fact I'm running around after LO!

Sorry I've not really caught up, I got better from my ear infection, then we went away, now I'm with sicky LO and d&v DP so I'm hoping I don't get whatever they have.

But I did see feral's news, yay for a few steps. My LO is now realising she doesn't have to keep her feet still when she's not holding on, but other than the tiniest little foot move and a body lunge she's pretty stationary when stood yet. Brilliant stuff for you.

Well our self settling training has gone out of the window with having been away and LO puking up, she's even spent a large proportion of the last few nights sleeping on my chest. Ah well. If I have a sick free night tonight from her then it's back to it tomorrow. Although I've kept her off food for a couple of days, offered her some yesterday it was less than 5 before it came back up :( so I'll be giving her food again tomorrow. My boobs need a rest! Lol

for sick Look, that's hard going but for the scan to look forward to. How exciting!

DD did four steps yesterday evening and then slept through but I know she's just doing the occasional good sleep to tease us. It makes it all the worse when she goes back to normal as we know that she's capable of 12 hours without a murmur. I think I would be more accepting of the rubbish nights if she had never done a proper big sleep iyswim.

I've always known that she would resist any sleep training; she's such a determined little soul that she just doesn't give up when she wants something! DS was a much lazier baby; he didn't walk properly until he was 18mo despite being perfectly capable and he would only ever grizzle for 12 minutes max before giving up and going to sleep!

LookAtHerGo hope you &babe& DP all feel better soon. Vexciting to get your scan date fingers Xed it all goes well.

feralgirl yah! For walking babe how exciting :) and some lovely sleep v

I can't wait for Lo to start walking she is so close. She stood up at our glass door after DH went out off to work and bashed a wave gd bye on wed was vsweet on the glass made daddy smile. But we also have few bruises on her head she keeps standing up and letting go of things but topples over, she keeps doing it in her cot in her sleeping bag thud she goes against the cot
Ive had busy few days, had to go to hospital for scan and tests today, looks like I have gallstones, but I've got to wait until 10th to see the Dr to discuss so its been bit worrying. Off to work tomorrow for a KIT day so nervous about that too as its new job in old company. Bought myself nice new handbag today as present to myself. It's rather funny as anyone that knows me, knows I don't "DO" handbags, I have muddy backpacks or a nappy change bag that's seen better days :o but with new job I wanted to feel more grown up :) will just have to keep it hidden from sticky investigating fingers!

Right I'm praying for sleep tonight as last night was sh*t, I was up 6+ times and big thunder storm ere at 3am, fed baby back to bed at 6am finally, then we had to wake little monkey up at 8am for school&hospital run. Sleep dust to all......

Yay, less than 3 weeks now till I can see if the bean is safe and well. Thanks both.

LO has refused to sleep in her cot for a few nights, I'm so tired. I'm back to the self settling training. Starting now, with trying to get her to nap. She's whingeing and getting a bit angry that I'm sat here and not cuddling her, but I know it's anger not scared etc. I just keep shhhing her.

Fab news on the walking feral. No stopping her. I'm still waiting, although I managed to get a pic of her standing alone yesterday, something that's been hard to get. Hope she settles into more longer nights :)

Ssmile, I think we'll both be watching for steps over the next few weeks. How was last night?

I went out last night. LO wasn't asleep when I left the house and she was only just asleep when I got home, and promptly woke back up and refused to leave my side! I felt kind of guilty that DP had had a tough night trying to settle her, but the number of times I've spent 3 hours with her bawling on me, well I've lost count of!

Hope your 3wks go fast LookAtHerGo and the sleep training works, must be very hard whilst pregnant as I found the early weeks SO utterly exhausting.

We had gd sleep last 3nights, baby asleep by 7pm, woke once around 11pm resettled fast after 5-10min BF then woke 5-6am. I've also managed to now stop BF completely between 6am-6pm no fuss from baby, I'm now giving her formula in a cup just before bathtime and bed in the hope it reduces the amount of breast milk she takes after bath so I can next weekend go for knocking out the breastfeeds at bedtime and overnight. We are aiming (if no illness) to try and get baby sleeping in same room as DD1 once she on school holidays in 3wks time. I'm going to put travel cot in one room and keep cot in our room so we can give it a try. I've got 6wks of mat leave left and we would like to see if we can get baby out of our bedroom before her first birthday and my rtn to work. I'm sure it won't go smoothly but we slowly working our way there!

It's quiet on here now as I assuming more and more of us are going back to work? I'm feeling trepidation about leaving baby 4days a week at nursery, but my DH and I have agreed to give it six months to bed in the new routine and if its not working we will reassess. We will both have demanding jobs, but the difference is I quite like mine but he is really unhappy in his but doesn't want to quit in this awful jobs market but hates hardly seeing the girls in the week. At least I've negotiated two early finishes to do school run :)

Thanks ssmile, I must admit, I'm not loving the training, but it has to be done. Hope the switch to formula goes well, I'm starting LO on formula in the day as of tomorrow, going to try and keep bf to mornings, bed and night, because she is still feeding lots in the night!