Jan 06 babies - no sleep til....!

[GeorginaP]

Hi there. Anyone feel up to joining me from Jan 06 ante-natal thread?

Lyra - took the liberty of emailing you pic but thanks for that link - I can now get back into yahoo properly i don't know what I was doing - all the pics were displayed individually and I didn't have the 'privilege' to post new ones - all sorted now but the pics are a little grainy, taken on my phone in hospital. Dp has managed to mislay the digital camera which is a shame as now my hair is presentable!

I don't wear bf tops, I'm not even wearing bf bras! I know it's naughty but I miss my underwires (I'm 38E!) and I need some shape back desperately for my self-esteem! - can now wear 14 tops and just push em up and push the bra back... once my nipple is in his mouth,no-one can see anything. I'm not leaking too much now but he is feeding well - 10lb 13oz today.

Lilstarry - Beebe is gorgeous - what lovely hair! (mine are always slapheads - Finn has fuzz like a little chick!).

hi all

Thought it was just me but I'm suddenly freezing all the time doesn't help I'm in Scotland but I'm always so cold since I lost my erm big heater.

Glad I'm not alone on the feeding frenzy front, Talia is such a milk guzzler, she empties one boob, has a wind, fills her nappy, then goes on the second. She is only happy asleep next to my nipple too, poor DP cannot comfort her bless him. Tried a dummy on Saturday she has now sussed it is not mummy's nipple though. She was awake loads yesterday too it is frustrating as you know they aren't hungry and they are too young to be interested in anything apart from nestling into a boob so your kind of stuck. She's already different to Abbie who was one boob on and off in 10 minutes no messing. Talia is up about twice in the night though so not too bad. Am cosleeping with her msot of the time and wake to find her snuggled up next to my boobs.

Rach - I think I used to wear naughty underwired bras when out and about from about 4 months I think, the nursing ones are so yuck. I wore nursing ones indoors though, am using my old ones am sure they aren't the right size but I'll get measured in a few weeks and maybe treat myself to a couple of nice ones.

Lyra - have sent you an e-mail re the nappies today. I think JoJoMamanbebe have some nice BF tops, I never bothered with specific tops just yanked my top up.

Iris - have sent you an e-mail re the MEOs but hotmail says there has been a delay - hope you get it eventually.

Porolli - welcome to the Jan post natal thread we are a nice friendly bunch {smile]

Will have to try and upload some pics on yahoo will try tonight if madam decides to sleep for a while.

hello everyone - ive missed you.

been either too busy, too down in the dumps (only periodically, nothing to worry about) or, um , too busy again (my god, am i insane?? 3 babies??)to get much time online, and most of that time is spent shopping!

got a stinking cold now, left behind by my benevolent mother who came to stay for a fortnight to 'help' with the new arrival. gee, thanks.

the boys (older two) are being very funny right now, dressed up, archie as "a lady" (shawl and pink baseball cap ?!) and max, dressed up by his brother, but v compliant in it all, as a policeman. guess you have to be here, but its pretty amusing.

lyra - re: bf tops, havnt tried specific bf tops but generally go for tops i can either hoik down or up without leaving myself all exposed (layering is good).low cut things and bf bras generally work, i find. and hey, ill be a flat chested thing again soon (and saggy to boot. how is that fair??) so im celebrating my chest while i have one!
actually, now i think of it, i havnt really been out while bfing yet this time round... its a bit scary with 3 of them...

anyway, thats my free time for today all used up... better go and feed someone, or change someones bum or something.

I'm sure there's a very good reason why babies fall into a deep sleep as soon as you get up and take them out of the bedroom so they don't wake your nowbackatworksoknackeredandgrumpy DH up!! Oh yes, it's to maintain the mums' sleep depravation training!

Porolli - welcome to the thread You're another who's obviously got your hands full at the mo - there are a fair few here with other children to cope with (I take my hat off to you - don't know how you do it!!) The frequent feeds are a nightmare aren't they - roll on getting a routine (it's just a phase, it's just a phase, it's just a phase.....)

NotACow - must be hard for you now your mum has gone. We've just got the cold bug thing here too(Dom has the added bonus of a gunky eye that I'm hoping will go away without the need to visit the Drs). It makes it a right pain to bf doesn't it. Georgie did you find anything that helped in the end?

Lyra - I bought a b/f top and just can't get on with it. It's a double layered thing but the underneath bit has holes (that aren't really big enough)to poke your nips through. I'm layering, like Sweetkitty, in vest tops & fitted cardis now which is making me feel much more normal (despite the "aged nips swinging round my softly sagging waist" effect )

Sweetkitty - haven't got your e-mail yet but will look out for it - thanks.

lilstarry1 - love your pictures. DD is the image of you isn't she - she's beautiful, and don't you look well! (am hooking eyebags the size of coal sacks behind my ears as I type )

Rach - I've been doing the lunchtime walks and it works a treat - trouble is now Dom sleeps for England afterwards and is awake more at night I may have to change it to an evening walk .

I sold my birthing pool!!!! yay!!! I was soo gutted i didn't get a chance to use it and seeing the box all the while has been driving me up the wall. DH is posting it off today and I'm going to spend the proceeds on treaty stuff (anti baggy eye cream ).

Anyone been to any post natal groups yet? I've never been to one before & found out about a local "bumps to one" group the other day so I'm going to give it a whirl later (although I've not seen any pg women or ones with LOs around here in ages so am a bit worried it'll just be me there )

Hi all

Long time no posting - I have NO IDEA how you mums with other kids cope... I seem to have no time at all to do any fun things like MN, and I've only got Scarlett to cope with!

Anyhow, just wanted to say how reassuring it is popping in here and seeing all the familiar complaints - everytime DH and I have a grumble about something (the sheer amount of feeding, the ability for Scarlett to stay awake for hours at a time, the leaking norks etc...) I seem to look in here and find that others have posted about exactly the same experience - which is somehow very comforting!

Just a few things whilst I remember... has anyone else read the "Baby Bliss" book? a friend has lent it to me, and it sounds really interesting - re. comforting colicky babies. Not that I think Scarlett has colic, but she does go through periods of being exceptionally unsettled and wakeful (mostly in evening or at night).

TOP TIP: DH invented a new way of calming Scarlett whilst she's having her nappy changed - using the hairdryer!! If we point it towards her rear end so that she is bathed in a nice warm typhoon of air she immediately settles, and will happily lie like this for as long as the nappy change takes and beyond. Which is nice cos it means I can leave her to air-dry for a little bit - something I had no chance of doing before with the hissy fits.

Also, re. growth spurts - I was wingheing (sp?) to my cousin the other day about Scarlett's incessant demands for the boob, only for her to feed for barely ten minutes once I have proferred it... she suggested that this is the baby 'preparing' me for a growth spurt. They start to feed very regularly, but not for very long, a few days in advance of the growth spurt, to bring in the extra milk that they will need. Has anyone else heard this theory? It kind of makes sense I guess. Certainly gave me some reassurance anyhow. It's strange how you can put up with pretty much any behaviour once you understand WHY it's happening?!

Rachey - thankyou for suggesting not clock-watching... it just seems to make you even more paranoid/anxious when they're not settling properly doesn't it?

Oh and one last thing...
I NEED TO HAVE A HAIRCUT!! I am currently developing a style which is looking suspiciously like a mullet. NOT good.
How on earth have you ladies managed it??! I can't imagine being able to turn up on time for an appointment at the moment. What if LO suddenly wants to feed just as you're about to leave the house? Should I be expressing some milk for use in a bottle??
Oh, and the idea of walking into a salon with my current mop is way too intimidating!

Have a good Tuesday y'all!

hi loomer!
your post made me smile. takes me back (all of about, ooooh 2 1/2 years ) to when my first was born... it is honestly not that much harder to adjust to 3 than it is to coping with 1. the first is such a MASSIVE change on soooo many levels that it really does take some adjusting to. subsequent babies are extra work, but none of them will transform your life the way your first does. so dont go feeling all inadequate coz 1 is a slog and others are coping with more; IMO the 'new parent' stage you are at is WAY harder than 1 baby and 2 toddlers

except when they all cry, poo and injure themselves at once !

hi ladies

good to read everyones posts. makes me feel as if i'm not doing such a bad job . was getting a little bit as thiking i was doing something wrong cos libby not sleeping well at night, feeding v often and not on any schedule to speak of.

anyone else running on sheer adrenalin? the first two week 'high' has worn off and i'm feeling terribly tired and running on empty. dh going to give libby her 12am bottle tonight so i can get some kip. i'm not as young as iused to be and four/five hours broken sleep per night are beginning to take their toll....

and yep..... am one sweaty betty come 3am. have woken up to find i've pulled up my top and am airing my boobs . pity dh asleep on sofa.... prob biggest thrill he's going to get for a couple of months

back to two handed typing again....

Libby's still got her congested nose. So far we've tried - saline drops, half a cut onion, tilting her moses basket, heating on, heating off, wet towel on radiator, bowl of water on radiator, vicks on my boob..... NOTHING has worked.

Bit hit and miss. Some nights she better than others. last night was bad. From 3am she couldn't really settle, so was up and feeding (comfort sucking really) at 4, 5, 6 and 7. I look like s*it on a cracker today.

Loomer - I managed to get to the the hair salon on saturday. Leave some expressed milk or formula with Dh and bugger off for a couple of hours. You can feed Scarlett before you go. Do it! It makes you feel so much better. I feel loads better for getting a cut and colour.

And..... got some great gossip from my hairdresser. One of his clients worked for Tom Cruise's management company in LA. There was a contract between him and Nicole (on account of the fact that he's gay). She got five films every two and a half years from his company in return for being his 'wife'. She broke the contract by having an affair and getting pregnant, which is why they divorced. It's true - HONEST . Similar contract now in force between him and Katie Holmes. Who is pg by the 'turkey baster' method.... tee hee!

Hi Porolli, welcome to the thread.

Lilstarry - what a cute little munchkin Beebe is.

Hey, has anyone heard from Tickle? Can't remember seing anything from her in ages.

OK lovely ladies, I think I've used by my 'free' time. DH cooked supper and I better spend some time with him before he feels too neglected!!!!

Loads of love to y'all

G xx

Helloooooo
Just got home from showing baba off to the families in Glasgow yesterday and am chuffed to bits to see all our Jan babies have arrived and we're now in Post-Natal thread.
Hope you're all having a wonderful time with your new arrivals. Lola's still an absolute joy. She is so contented I can hardly believe my luck. The only problem we're having is that she just refuses to latch on, and despite expressing as much as was feasible while away from home my supply is little more than a dribble. Now we're home I'm still plugging away at it and trying to express more but beginning to think it's a pointless task (when half an hour of expressing produces less than a teaspoon its kinda disheartening).
Will try and catch up on all the messages over the next couple of days between unpacking and trying to get into some kind of routine!
Lis x

hi girls - finally back on mn... just not sure where time goes these days! thanks for thinking of me georgie

Theo is a real cutie & thank god he knows the diff between night & day. Often won't be put down, fussing & colicky during the day - but at night he wakes to feed & goes straight back to sleep. Having had the reverse with dd1 I appreciate his rhythm!!

4 under 7 is definitely a challenge - especially the weekends! Just about surviving

Had dd1's 7th birthday last wk, and the village pond was completely frozen over so dh arranged skating games

Oh well, now late for first post natal group... feeding theo cos he was late up, so better go & meet some mums & babes.

good to see you all, if briefly

keep it up
t
xx

hi all

loomer - your post made me laugh, when DD1 was born 18 months ago I thought "wow how can anyone cope with more than one" now I'm like "wow what do people with only one newborn do all day" DD2 is so easy compared with a mad toddler. She stays in the one place! I left DP with both girls the other day to get my haircut, fed DD2 before I went and she was fine.

georgie - sorry to hear about Libby's wee nose can't recommend anything else you haven't already tried.

Lisa - glad you had a nice time away. If your still set on breastfeeding give La Leche League or NCT a ring or ask your HV to put you in contact with a BF councillor I had a visit from one last time when I was struggling, she showed me coreect latching on, different feeding positions etc Lola sounds like my DD1 in that she's a bit lazy as BFing requires more sucking effort than bottlefeeding and they don't like it, I kept plugging away and dropped bottles altogether eventually and BF DD1 for a year, hang on in there.

Tickle - so nice to hear from you I didn't know what name you had settled on, Theo is lovely btw.

Iris - tried to e-mail you again re the nappies but it keeps bouncing back, can you e-mail me at slrobertson002 at hotmail dot com thanks

Well we are all doing OK here HV weighed Talia today and she is 10lbs 3ozs not surprised she is always eating. She seems to want to be constantly snuggled up to my boob even when not feeding bless her. I'm not as stressed about it as I know it will pass just feel bad for Abbie as I'm constantly nursing Talia. DP put her new bedside cot up today looks really good hopefully she will like it.

Starting to get a bit stressed about next week when DP goes back to work, will I ever get out the house again???

morning all

beautiful sunny day here in Manchester. planning on going back to bed this am however as we had rather a busy night, don't know why alex was awake so much, he'd had cranial osteopathy yesterday which was supposed to settle him! mayabe he's starting on a growth spurt. the night went something like this

11 1.30 2.30 5.30 7.30

not at all usual, let's hope it's a one off.

my mil is still here so i'm making the most of her willingness to do washing and cleaning and leaving it all up to her, so i can get some much needed sleep.

i still completely adore baby alex, can't believe he's a month old today. this time last month i was posting a blow by blow account of my labour as i recall....

we took alex to register him yesterday, so now he's officially a person! went into the blooming marvellous shop and treated myself to a fancy bf top for a christening on Sunday where i'm to be Godmother to my friend's 6 month old Kyle and some bf nightwear. a bit pricey, but hey, i'm worth it! also finally got alex one of those black and white cloth books that you can use as a frieze in the pram, i've been thinking about buying one for ages, but was thinking of making one myself, but of course never got round to it.

sweetkitty
i posted off the cheque for the nappies yesterday, i'm looking forward to having a play with them when they come, seeing which fit lo and how he looks in them.a

it's been good having mil to stay, but also it will be good to get back to ourselves on mon when she goes back to spain. she's not the easiest of people to be with, but i have appreciated her help.

tickle
great to have you back with us. i can imagine you really do have your hand full atm. hope your dh has time to help. how was your mums and babies group? i've been going to one on mon ams, i just sit there and feed alex mostly, and chat and drink coffee, which is very nice. the postnatal coordinator for the nct rang up yesterday to tell me about local groups and to ask if i wanted to be on the email list for coffee mornings etc. so i don't think i'll be lonely, which is good. just writing coffee mornings has made me fancy a coffee, so i'm off to make one now!

dh threw a precious bottle of ebm away yesterday, and it was my last! i've got rather lazy with collecting the drips from the other side lately, so i'm wondering whether to do some pumping after my bath this am before lo wakes up. i do find it handy to give alex a bottle in the evening when he's just wanting to suck suck suck. it give my nips a break more than anything. i'm just a bit worried about overproducing if i use the pump. hmm. i think alex is probably well able to drink a few excess ounces if i do overproduce a bit, i'll go for it.

Hello all, glad to read things are mostly beginning to settle (I say this as Beebe is squawking like some sort of maniac.. she still doesn't like having her nappy changed - and due to my short hair I can't try the hairdryer method!). We're still not into an obvious routine, but it's not even been two weeks yet so I suppose that's normal? I worry that I'm setting ourselves up for some hideous fall, letting her sleep with us at night (we start with the best intentions but when her gas kicks in at 4am it's just easier to settle her with skin-to-skin contact!). How is everyone else finding night times? Who has the baby in a separate crib the whole night through? Are any of the babies already in their own nursery?

Notacow - hope you're feeling better motherhood is hard enough without feeling poorly!
Georgiegirl - Loving the Tom Cruise gossip, SO wouldn't surprise me if it was true haha!
Lyra41 - Congrats on registering your lil 1! We're taking Bee tomorrow, it feels like such a massive occasion! I'm nervous, I have to confess!

I'm sure I had more I wanted to say, but my mind has gone blank and Bee's settled so I might use this opportunity to find something to eat (my appetite still fluctuates but I'm not struggling with food as much!)
Take care M'dears..
xxx

morning all

missing our frequent posting phase, i guess i have a little more time with having my mil here. hope you're all ok.

alex has taken to a dummy and it's great! he's such a comfort sucker, so it's a real relief to my nipples. i don't intend to let him have the dummy for more than a few months, but for the moment it seems to be exactly what he needs. i got a new one following georgie's advice and he can keep it in his mouth much better than the other one from the bounty pack.

the health visitor is coming soon so i'd better go and shower and dress.

laters xx

Hi

just quickly for Georgie.

Have you tried her sleeping her in a bouncy chair if you have one - you can sleep them on an angle so they can breathe more easily - had to resort to this for DS as he had such a bad cold atsome point last time

ALso you can get suction things for baby nose to try to clear them- a FRench friend told me about them . We asked for them in Boots last time but were told they were not good for the noses but then I saw one on NCT sales mag - will try to get online reference and post.

Also having nights with little sleep like the rest of you - she is such a gannet and does not wind well.

ANyway have to dash to get DS to doctor with lovely willy infection Bye for now

hi found it

www.nctms.co.uk/prodshow.asp?id=749&cat=0&scat=0

hth

hi everyone -

this is my new nickname BTW (Notacow was a crap uninspired name )

am feeling much better now thanks - just a bit tired and a little bit penned in... cant face the effort of going out on my own with all 3 babies, so i havnt been out much at all. am starting to get cabin fever! im lucky i know, coz i have quite a bit of space here, so thats something at least. and Emma, the lovely aupair will be back on monday so that will be a help. cant believe i didnt realise how precious it was to be able to duck out now and then, even just to get some fresh air!
anyway - glad everyone seemsto be ok. cant chat long, babies calling!

georgie
my friend emma (a gp) recommends salt water nose drops (you can buy them over the counter from the chemist). she tried them with her baby (10 weeks) and he sniffed up 2 huge bogies some time later!!! hope they help.

no more news really. got some lavender wheat bags which really help with the stiff shoulders/neck from bf, especially when heated in the microwave.

tried junior with some gripe water to help him burp tonight, but with disastrous results - big barf, and he never even possets normally, so i won't be bothering with that again! it does taste very strong actually, i'm sure it's too much for new babies. i'll try infacol next if he's still struggling with wind.

Hi everyone, I'm still on go very slow time. The most important thing I have learned in 12 years of motherhood is to get out of the house as often as possible! Most babies are soothed by car rides, pram rides, fresh air and coffee shops!

Tickle - good to hear from you, Theo's sleep pattern sounds great! Finn is just not settling on his own (but can at the breast/in arms so we know nothing is wrong) I don't mind co-sleeping but not all night - I need my own space sometimes! Last night, in some exasperation at 2am I wrapped him up quite tightly (like baby Jesus as dd said) in a cellular blanket and after a huge protest (ie wiggling like a maggot!) he went to sleep and stayed that way until 7am! whereupon I had to pick him up and feed him because my boobs were bursting - I could then put him down in the cot again (not sure he even woke up) so we will try that again tonight... I had swaddled him before but not so tightly.

Lyra - which dummy did you buy? All the avent ones seem to be the same, with ds1 (12 years ago) I used these bent orthodontic ones (like an SMA teat?). BTW Finn has one of those b/w books and loves it - he also loves any black pattern (eg bedframe) against a pale background and stares fascinated at it.

Loomer - I also think the hoover works well too!

good morning and happy weekend to all of us post natal mums

Rach
i bought a 2 pack of tesco's own dummies, similar to avent i think. i accidentally picked up a pack with a pink dummy in, so ds1 and dh both think that's very girlie, and don't want him to be seen out of the house sucking a pink dodie! i remember those orthodontic ones with the bent teat from when dd was a baby, but i don't think i've seen any of them around this time.

we didn't have a brilliant night last nite, but i had a lie-in this am, which always helps. alex woke about 4.30 (not sure if that was the first or the second time since 10pm)and was extremely sucky, he insisted on both sides and my nips were getting really sore (i'd forgotten to use the lansinoh all day when i was out and about), so i swaddled him and dummied him and he did go off in his moses basket in the end, about 5.30 or so.
just had bk and still in pjs at this point. lo is with my mil, asleep in his pram i think, probably sucking furiously on the said pink dummy. i'll miss mil when she goes, she really has been a big help around the house. i'll also be glad to get the house back to myself iykwim.

i'm beginning to think about trying to get into shape a bit. i won't say back into shape, as i was pretty fat when i got pg, but i'm hoping the bf will help me to lose weight if i start to do some exercise in the next few weeks. there's an aerobics class locally where you can take your baby, i'll give that a go, maybe starting after my 6 week check to give my bits and bobs chance to heal properley. my appetite is still very large, but i won't be dieting whilst i'm fully bf, i'll start that when i start to wean alex i think. is anyone else trying to regain their former slyph-like figure?

Hello all,

Well i am back long time no visit here! I have been very busy with Sophie & ds & also we have just changed our internet provider so did not have internet for a few days!

Glad to see everyone is ok & all babies seem to be doing well.

Sophie is doing ok not sure how much she weighs as midwives sighned us over to health visitors on day 10 but have not seen any sign of the HV as of yet i am going to have to ring them on monday as they are suppost to have ocme and looked after us to see how we are doing etc etc.

Hunker- Still have no middle name for Sophie which obviously means we still have been unable to register her i am really trying hard to think of a name that goes with sophie all we have come up with is Sophie Ella but not to sure surname begins with a M, any suggestins from anyone i would be very grateful

Well i am still pluging away at the breast feeding it was going really really well & i had a good flow of milk coming in etc but since Tuesday i have been really really poorly with a bad cold, sore throat all my glands have been up & she just seems like she is not getting anything from my breast, the milk is there but not half as much as there was & she just seems to still be hungry even after giving her 2 boobs so i have had to give her top ups with bottles when she has been crying cause she is still hungry i am feeling quite down about it as it was all going to well before i fell ill & i was so proud of achieveing it this time as with ds i failed!
Still determined for her to keep sucking away at my breast though, i also think the fact my appetite was very poor for the last 2 days has probably affected it? but i am feeling a tad better today.

Hows everyone else getting on with breast feeding & they new babies arrivals? is it all going well for everyone?
Sophie has fitted in very well to our family, i am finding it alot easier this time round probably because i know what i am doing. Ds has been playing up a bit but i did expect it, if anything he has been the hard work for me, but since dp has been back at work i seem to have a routine & also ds plays up alot more when dp is around (dp is a soft touch & ds knows it)

I have lost 11lbs in weight so i am feeling quite good about it, but to be honest i could do with losing another stone i never went back to my normal size from ds but i am determined to get back to a size 10 i need to keep pluging away at it but i feel a bit better

Nights were going really well before i fell ill she was sleeping through from 12.30-6.30am but since i have been ill nights have been quite bad & it is becoming a bit of a struggle for me i dont go well with sleep deprevation! she is probably waking every 2 hrs through the night but last night she just would not sleep at all she was awake from 2.45am till 5am this morning i really felt like crying. She seems to have a cold is well.

Anyway i suppose i better be off for now but will pop back soon take care all xx

Hello Scrummy Mummies

Sooooo glad everyone seems to be going thru the same thing as us . We have good days and bad days.

Thurs was a corker to say the least. Left my bag in a cafe and had to run back and get it.... doh! Took about five mins to get back to cafe. Mollie knackered from running. My back was agony as Libby in the baby sling, then had to walk back to car (10 mins) with me and Mollie nearly in tears.

Libby woke up from her morning nap at 12.45 and proceeded to gizzle and feed until 7.30pm..... no sleep. I had two freinds round with their kids and Mollie then decided to throw a tantrum... DH came home from work to chaos.... 5 kids, 3 shattered women and toys everywhere....

I burst into tears as was sooo tired. He packed me off upstairs with Mollie and gave Libby her bottle and she finally settled about 8ish...and slept until 12.30... a FIRST. I got some sleep too, so am feeling better.

Oh, I've been told about this stuff called Colief. it's an enzyme that you put in formula milk that breaks down the lactose and makes it easier for baby to digest. It really works as Libby is much more settled now after her bottle.

I@m eating us out of house and home. Just can't seem to get a grip on my appetite. I'm back to 9 stone (was 8st 6 before pg) so still got some to shift. I'm off to the gym as soon as I get all clear after 6 week check. Will be nice to have an hours to myself.

God I am tired..... how long until they go to uni and we get some time to ourselves?

Mum2 - re: middle names how about Rose, Camille, Hannah, Abigail, Louise.... run out of ideas now, sorry!

Lyra - we've already gone thru one bottle of saline drops and are onto the second . She does seem to be producing more bogies now, so they might be working. Just seems as if she needs a really good nose blow to get them all out .

Am slowly geting to grips with having two children and learning not to feel guilty about dividing my time between the two of them. Libby does take the lions share at the moment, but Mollie seems to be coping well with her baby sis. HUGE respect to those with more than two. I really take my hat off to you.

We;re off to my folks tomorrow. Us girls are staying down on Sun and Mon whilst DH comes back and gets some much needed sleep (and goes to work!). He's been sleeping on sofa (libby in moses basket in the lounge) for the last 2 nights until 2am when we swap over and he gets the bed and I BF Libby. Ohhhhh, the romance!

Anyway, I'm waffeling again.

Oh, and Mum2.... don't kick yourself re: BF. Any little bit that you do is better than nothing. My cousin in HV and she told me that there's nothing wrong with topping up with bottle. MOST importnat thing is that you and LO are fed, content and happy.

Right, better go and dunk my dirty 4 year old in the bath.

Lots of love and sleepy thoughts to you and your LO.

G xx

PS - We are SOOOOOO all going to meet up in the autumn for a damn good drink, girly gossip and fun packed evening.

Evening - I'm at my mums house with Bee asleep.. she's been on/off the boob all evening! We're topping up with formula most nights because she's insatiable.. anyone have any useful ideas how to up my milk production? I'm just not sure she gets enough!

Glad to hear everyone remains slightly dazed..but isn't it fab how we're all dealing? Tis amazing how quickly the lil'ens slot into our lives!

GeorgieGirl Where did you get the Colief from, and can it be given from newborn? Our lo seems to get terrible wind that really upsets her so I'd be interested in trying it!
Mum21 - We were also signed off after 10 days and have yet to hear from the midwife, little disconcerting! It's strange how little they are involved really..I hope you get to feeling much better soon! Feeling poorly is hideous at a time like this!

Anywho, I'm off to drink my fruity tea and watch the Olympics, take care ladies, I am sending love and calming thoughts..
xxx

hi all

lilstarry this is what i used last time at one point to up my supply. www.kellymom.com/herbal/milksupply/fenugreek.html i made tea from dried fenugreek and will try it again soon - shes such a gannet

this is a useful site on bf and lots of other things overall

mum21and1more what a shame re being poorly- the same happened to a friend recently and her baby was hungry too - hope youre better soon.

had good night last night where tara slept and settled well but its still hard going. 1st full week on my tod next week so will be a bit knickety knacked.

hope they all begin to sleep longer soon

bye for now