Dec 08 Mums - happy new year, happy new thread and soon some happy new babies!

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Happy new year!

Sorry for the rubbish title but wanted to get the new thread underway. Let's close the door on some of the sad events of 2011 and look forward to a better year in 2012.

Lovely to see everyone today. Beans country pile is gawjus. Her girls are delightful. Great to see Rubes and Sls little ones again and they all got on so well.

Aubi what super news.

Kayz annual ship show??

Vag now seriously you know you are a brilliant mum. We all have moments where we are sure our children are terrorised by our behaviour and its not true. Its natural for us to lose it occasionally. I also think its healthy to show children different emotions it helps them to understand their own emotions. I hope by now you have had a large glass of

SO the decorating has all gone a bit tits up. Got home and DH and DFIL were just starting the walls and we hated the colour. So mad dash back to homebase to return the paint and buy an alternative to think we have one we like now. Watch this space I will be back in homebase tom swapping for more paint. Obviously I have bought the most expensive paint in the world F&B. So we are down 60 quid as we opened 2 tins, grrrr.

Yes Jam the annual South West Ship Show. FIL is an author and publisher. He writes and publishes book about ships, occasionally buses and trains too. Every year they organise a show here.

I decided it would be more fun here than at home. But I've been roped into helping now.

Aubi Forgot to mention your exciting news re: number 3! Good for you. DH all snipped so totally out of the question here (not that I want to have another).

kayz Both my DC's were breech. The MW told me most babies are breech for a while and most usually turn of there own accord. Obv mine never but there was a medical reason for that! But by crikey I still remember that head grinding in my ribcage, ouch!

vag I reckon I out shouted you as a mum by a country mile yesterday. Was an awful parenting day. I actually felt at one point that I made a huge mistake thinking I could be a good mother and spent most of the evening wondering about what damage my shouting at them had already done. Anyway, today is a new day and will try to do better. I worry too that they will become shouty grumpy people but, its so hard to be calm when they test your patience isn't it?

Oh and we need a new thread soon...any ideas for a title?

God I had forgotten that too. Breach is really uncomfortable isn't it!? I remember the odd headbutt in the ribs that had me doubled up (well, as much as you can double up when 7/8 months pregnant!) in the street

Morning all! Been for run, DH gone to work, DD2 asleep. She is six months today. Poor little poxy one.

I have spent all morning moving bedroom furniture around trying to make more room. I'm bloody shattered! The state of the dust under the beds and wardrobes was really minging . Must keep on top of it now everything is clean.

DS is mega constipated he hasn't been since Tuesday . He's had about a litre of OJ, but he has a big turd stuck and it hurts him to push it out so he is holding on to it. Which is just making the whole thing worse!

Also my 15 year old nephew has just broke his leg in 3 places - tib, fib and a circular fracture (whatever one of those is). So when he finishes his GCSE's he will be spending the summer in a full leg cast & a wheelchair, poor sod. He has to wait till next week, before the consultant makes a final decision on surgery...something to do with the breaks might knit or may move...Rube's DH will know what I mean!

So onto a bit of trivial reality TV...who's watching The Voice? I LOVE it, love Will.I.Am, and fancy the pants off Danny from The Script (although he does act like a bit of a knob). Great eye candy though. But I have to Sky + BGT, as a bloke I work with is on it soon (well though said they were using his audition). He defo gets through, and I think he has made the live semis. But he won't say as he has signed a 'confidentiality agreement'. But coincidentally he has booked the week of the live shows off work, and a TV crew has already filmed him in one of the company's shops, and filmed him and his family on the local park enjoying a miniature train ride!

Deids, says he doesn't have a clue what a circular fracture is? Do you mean segond fracture? or do you mean sprial fracture. The consultant will be checking for early displacement and if it drifts they will operate to either realign or fix it. Think I said that correct
We LOVE the voice too. Brilliant show.
Horrendous night with dd then she would barely nap today. This occasion I think it's definitely teeth.
Urgh, I'm on standby for work tomorrow - poo, but I guess maybe I'll get some sleep if I get called out

Rubes Yes that's a spiral fracture! That all sounds like what my sister has just said. My mum was pretty rubbish at relaying the info . Just spoke to my sister, he did it at school on Friday. He (and his friends) heard it crack,and it instantly swelled. The school left him in a classroom and rang to say could they come and collect him he had hurt his leg. When my BIL arrived his leg was twice the size and he was crying and had been since it happened. She is fuming they never spotted the severity and relayed that to her on the phone or called an ambulance. They just kind of took their time collecting him as they thought he's just had a bit of a knock. When they arrived at A & E it was a couple of hours since he did it and the poor thing was in such pain. The nurse was a bit shocked he hadn't arrived sooner, and they gave him some gas/air which he was quite partial too apparently!

Rubes really hope you get a better night with DD, and that you don't get called out.

God Diedre if I was his mum I'd be absolutely furious at the school and take it up with them big time. That's terrible! The poor boy, he must have been in agony and to just leave him there ...

Happy Sunday all! I'm keeping up my regular appearance here. Just been for a 10k run and very chuffed with my time

Meanwhile DD1 walked all the way to shops and park and back (probably about a mile and a half) - not a big deal for many 3 year olds but huge for her, she's been a nightmare to get to walk anywhere and always wants cuddles (aka being carried) after 2 minutes. The power of reward chart stickers!

DD2s pox are at the scabby stage. Now she looks less medieval and more acned teen

A 10k run - jings!

DB, that sounds horrendous about your nephew. The school sound as if they have been extremely remiss. Strong words with the head and a cutting letter to the governors? I mean, accidents do happen but they need to be able to differentiate between a minor injury and something v serious!

Rubes - of course you could stay if you wanted or just pop in, lovey, but you didn't actually specify a date so I haven't a clue when you are talking about! As for Drayton Manor, I love it. I used to go when I was tiny. It's actually in Staffs, somewhere between Sutton Coldfield and Lichfield and close to where I grew up. Even well over thirty years ago it was an amusement park and zoo. Happy memories!

I am off to a tour of a private zoo down the round in a min. We won it in a raffle. The owners of it are the parents of one of DD1's pals at pre-school. I think she is going to be a tad surprised that there are lions, llamas, hyenas, camels and heaven knows what else about a mile away

Am in desperation and before I venture on the wider MN board, I am looking to you wonderful ladies for some help.
T has become a NIGHTMARE to put to bed. Every night he screams, throws things, takes his nappy off, sees, and ends up falling asleep approx 3 hours after whatever time we've put him down. We have tried, variously:

Putting him to bed later
Putting him to bed earlier
Giving him a nap
Giving him no nap
Rewards for staying in bed
punishments for getting out of bed
Being allowed to sleep in his den/the floor/another place
Changing mealtime

NONE of it works. I want to cry. It used to work where he would go to sleep if I lie sleeping next to him. Now I end up holding one end of the door while he screams and holds onto the other. i get so angry I have to leave so I don't hit him.
I HATE what's going on, what it's doing to our relationship. We have no time in the evenings, and I hate the fact that a 3 year old is running out lives. He is exhausted all day, big rings round his eyes, really emotional and snaps at the slightest thing. He nearly went for my reward chart today, then stopped when he remembered he had to be a little shit. My reward now is a glass of wine for not breaking his neck.
Sorry for the rant, but I'e never felt so at a loss with my parenting, and am dreading how to deal with anything like this later. He's now so strong that I find it hard to physically manhandle him anywhere. He just kicks and hits me.
Sorry for lack of personals, I can't see anything through the red mist .

Oh my god spot that sounds like a nightmare. i don't really have any good advice the only thing I can think is any way you can put a stairgate on door and ignore him for 15 mins at a go so it feels like you have more of an evening even if he is awake and being a little shit(!). DS sometimes doesn't go to sleep til super late, but we have a stairgate at the top of the stairs and we ignore him for a bit when he comes out and take it in turns to put him back in bed. But he is nowhere near as bad as T! (sometimes it's nearly 10 when he goes to sleep though!). oh and in our world he is much better at going to sleep with no nap.

Was lovely to see rubes, jam, and finally meet beans hurrah. beans has a most magnificent country pile! DS is insistent that miniBeans1 has to come round and "play with his trains" (ultimate compliment). Just looking at that has made me realise it looks a bit rude in the quotes though somehow. So maybe a meet up at mine in a couple of weeks or so (would have to be a Friday though) if anyone fancies it as well as team beans.

kiwi what is your 10k time, go on show off you know you want to :-)

Oh whoever said they like pearl izumi running stuff, I wear loads of their cycling stuff and love it, and I wear it for running too.

ladyt a private zoo? really, would never have guessed that such things exist

deids did you decide whether to commit a million hours of your life read the Game of Thrones books? Has your DS done his poo yet? Hope nephew ok.

ladyt I think Rubes date will be around 5th May, as that is her wedding anniversary as it is same as mine (I am not a stalker honest)

kayz congratulations on getting married (dont' think have said on here!) Saw some photos on fb you looked lovely. No advice on birthing really as lots of others are more expert (and having failed to get to get normal sized ones out the traditional way anyway not sure really!) except maybe make sure you make your feelings very clear about what you want. Don't see any reason they should induce or do cs if that's not what you want.

Hahah spot gotta go as my little shit is kicking off! It's 9pm go to sleep you cheeky barsteward.

Little shit! Screeching something about his duvet.

Oh dear Spot poor you I would say the same as Summer really - DS is pretty good most nights (especially after a busy day) and generally goes to bed without protest, but then there are some nights he's a bit of a bugger and will keep coming out with various requests or just whining. When the stairgates were on we would just do the same and added a lock to the top gate and ignored him so he would take himself off to bed eventually (usually waking dd up in the mean time) He tried it on the other night for the first time since gates have been removed and I held the bedroom door and could feel him swinging off the other side so since he can get the travel gate off himself anyway, dh cut a bit of wood the exact size to slip under the door handle (to the floor) which had him give up after 5 mins. He tried one other night since and I threatened him with locking it again and he freaked and promised to stay in bed.
I really would try and do something similar until he gets the message. That way you can take yourself off, have a glass of wine and just ignore it (as long as he's not sick / hurt himself obviously) but I promise, he can't keep going forever, and that way he will get the message and not take over your evening. Hope it works out soon x

Summer - B is obsessed with trains - I'm surprised they didn't chat about it! Funny, all ds keeps saying repeatedly is "I did a huge poo at minibeans1's house and her toilet is downstairs" there's something about Beans and poo related talk!

Lady yes our anniversary is May 6th as SL said! We were thinking about going up that weekend but think we will just drive up in one day and stay overnight up there really - depending on how many people get booked for dh's clinic on the Sat.

lol! 6th May! not 5th May. 5th May is MILs birthday.....oh dear, I forgot my wedding anniversary.

I was thinking you wrote the wrong date Summer as I also remembered it was same as mine! Hilarious - mil's b'day! 5th is my best friends b'day back home. You'll prob have a romantic dinner and I'll be having a meal served to me by the fat controller!

Hello!

Congrats kayz - I hope you'll have many years of happiness together.

spot er... only thing I can think of is lots & lots of physical activity during the day to knacker him out. How are you getting on by the way? Can't remember - has DP finished his job now or is he working his notice? Is he going to be looking for something similar or does he fancy a change?

Beans fab news about your dad. Saw your post about meeting up too late but DD has chicken pox anyway so I wouldn't have been able to come along. Am generally up for Friday meet ups though - SL what date were you thinking of?

LadyT sorry I disappeared on you again but am still up for meeting on Tuesday if you are. I was thinking of trying to leave work early & getting there for about 5 - does that sound okay? Have yours had chicken pox? I probably won't bring DD but thought I'd ask just in case. Can you post the link to where you're staying again please? Can't find it - also Jam was asking & said she might try to come along (soz didn't get back to you on fb Jam). Also Effie let me know if you are still thinking of coming along. And a big HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you for tomorrow (I think). Hope you have a wonderful day.

Sorry for being crap and ignoring everyone else but must go as DCs still up and need to sort them out.

No rubes we will probably be having dinner with MIL, haha! She is moving near us next week arghghghg!

Hi pd. Was not thinking of next fri, and I am busy the friday after....but I think I am ok for any friday after that for a while?

Spot, sorry I have always been a bit crap at getting the boys to bed, ds1 took until he was 3.5 before I didn't have to snuggle with him for a little while and ds2 has ds1 to snuggle with so goes to sleep that way. I wish I had an answer for you. I think Rubes would be the one with the answers she is so good and at having a olan and then sticking to it. All I can do is sypmathise with the feeling being completely rubbish at this parenting thing. Sometimes I feel this is how it's going to be for ds2 & I, butting heads all the time. I hope someone can help, when does dp finish up at work, can he take on some of this?

Happy birthday for tomorrow lady, it's nearly your birthday here only 1.5hrs away.

DB your nephews school acted appalingly. When a childs parents aren't available, they act in loco parentis and are expected to make decision appropriate to their welfare. If a child is in severe pain after an accident it needs to be investigated. That amount of swelling could have led to other problems let alonethe fact that he was in such intense pain. It must be hard for his mum to know he was in so much pain.

Kiwi glad your feeling better, so what is your 10km time.

Sorry I've been lurking for a few days and now I can't remember what I've read. Had a nice weekend, it's sunny but it's been quite cold. Am feeling a but shattered actually, these bootcamp things are getting tiring, or maybe I'm getting too old for them. I got my old longboard skateboard out for a spin yesterday was good fun. I took ds2 with me, him on his scooter, it was fun but man he is hardcore he scooter the entire 3 ish km to the beach and that included up and down some pretty steep hills. I told him he could walk up them but he insisted on scooting all the way up. He crashed at 5pm before he'd even had his dinner, and only woke at 11pm asking for honey milk and then slept until 6.30am. Spot, maybe you could completely exhaust ds1, make him run, a lot.

Oh crikey summer - that's a bit much - how close? How is she these days anyway? Hello PD! [waves]

Thanks for the sympathy and replies folks, I know it's no biggie in the grand scheme, but I just feel so powerless and don't want this to be the dynamic of our relationship. For one thing, I think it's pretty frightening for a little one to see they have so much sway over their parents.
I think you could be right about the exhausting him thing, that'll be my new plan of action for tomorrow. The thing is, he's not very physically able and so isn't a great one for careering around too much but spent a good hour this evening dancing to 80s pop classics (and a new dance he invented called "passport skwonk") so maybe I just have to disco him to death.

DP actually finished last week so it's a double hander and we still can't hack it. Spend each evening trying to make plans of how to make it better and talk about how rubbish we feel about it. It is good having him home though, and I think we'll probably move back to Brighton to somewhere cheaper and save the money until he finds something else. I miss the city and have managed to persuade him that Brighton's a good bet. I think!

Hah! To all you runners out there. I'll see your 10K and raise you a 90 min sesh of bikram yoga. Fuck, it's like dying. Slowly.

Better go but will try and come back tomorrow and do a bit more catching up.

Spot Is Bikram yoga the one in an oven?? Sorry about the bedtime situation, does sound a bit grim. CAn't really help I'm afraid as DD1, though a rubbish sleeper in her way (wakes up a lot) is fine at actually going to sleep at bedtime. WEll I say that, I don't really deal with it as I am feeding DD2 at the time but DH seems to get her down pretty sharpish. Mind you I have heard him use me as a threat occasionally, as in "Sssh go to sleep right now or Mummy will come and be cross!" So clearly I am the ogre - anyway I like your plan to disco him to exhaustion. Hope you've got lots of bad music channels on your TV ...

Then again she did also call me, ahem, a btch yesterday. She didn't mean it though , we were at a playdate and her friend was doing lots of rhymes and DD1 got the idea but was also playing at turning me into things with her magic wand. Cue, "Abracadabra, Mummy you are now a btch!" (me and friend fall around on floor laughing, two small girls and two babies look at us with that "oh god they're off again, adults eh?" look)

Oh crickey does 999 posts mean we are about to hit the thread wall?? should i start a new one??? I feel a dreadful sense of responsibilty as I've filled it up with my ramblings the last few days. But I'm rubbish at thread names. Oh well here we are...