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sybilfaulty · 01/01/2012 09:37

Happy new year!

Sorry for the rubbish title but wanted to get the new thread underway. Let's close the door on some of the sad events of 2011 and look forward to a better year in 2012.

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KiwiPanda · 18/02/2012 17:27

Sympathise with the whining jb! DD1 is always at her most whingy when she's getting better - when she's really poorly she's actually really sweet Grin

Have been dosing her up regularly with calpol. Not allowed to give her Calprofen though because she was born with renal failure & ibuprofen is not good for your kidneys - or so says her consultant anyway

VagolaJahooli · 18/02/2012 17:27

Oops wrong brackets that should have been a Shock

Indith · 19/02/2012 09:00

Beans that is great news about your dad :)

Kiwi hope she is feeling better !

JB that'll be me hiding in the loo later today, went to family film night at the village hall yesterday so late night for the dcs. Did they sleep in? Did they heck. I shall be dealing with screaming puddles of snot all afternoon I reckon before pouring them into bed Grin.

Bloody hell I cannot wait for school to start back tomorrow! Although not so much the miles and miles of waddling walking. Can I give birth tonight please so I can send dh to do the school runs instead?

KiwiPanda · 19/02/2012 19:13

Evening all! So..Do I have the worlds only bf baby who doesn't like being fed to sleep? Honestly it's not so much a feeding session as a wrestling match... Wriggle writhe grumble wriggle... She acts like im trying to give her cyanide rather than bm..!

DH was told today by father of one of DD1's nursery friends (at a party) that his wife "has to give up work because she needs to learn to be a mother"!!Angry

Indith · 19/02/2012 19:32

Dd spent around 9 months screaming herself to sleep because of feeding issues then suddenly she decided bf was the most comforting thing in the world and would wake 10 time a night and only settle with a feed Hmm. Hopefully you will not experience the same thing! What do you think might be going on? Does she settle down for a feed once you have her on but just not feed to sleep or is she fussy for the whole feed?

Did I ay we have a date for dd's sleep test? 15th March! Of course at the moment she is sleeping quite well, feel like a fraud!

KiwiPanda · 19/02/2012 20:14

Ha Indith DD1 wasn't that bad but a bit like that - she used to feed multiple times a night until about 18 months. But at least she seemed to enjoy it!! I don't know what's going on with DD2. Quite a lot of her feeds are like that - wriggling and endlessly breaking off and acting like she doesn't want to be fed. I get the impression that she's not really that bothered about the idea .. When she's really hungry or sleepy (ie middle of the night feeds rather than bedtime ones or early morning ones..) she feeds nicely and steadily but the rest of the time it's wriggleorama and endlessly bobbing on and off... Maybe I'm trying to feed her before she's ready for a feed? I was just used to DD1 who would always be ready even if the last one was 5 minutes before ...!

KiwiPanda · 19/02/2012 20:15

Oh - and what does a sleep test consist of?

Indith · 19/02/2012 20:27

What is your letdown like? Could she be struggling a bit with forceful letdown? They can be so different though can't they, dd didn't feed anywhere near as often as ds, confused the hell out of me!

The sleep test will mean spending a night on the ward so that her oxygen levels can be checked for dips as she sleeps (theory being if it is tonsils restricting throat oxygen dips and sleep is disturbed). After than we will know if there actually is a problem ir if she is just a crap sleeper Grin.

Beans36 · 19/02/2012 21:28

Kiwi - forgive me if this is a crap obvious post, but DD2 was like that and I found she had terrible wind. After first couple of glugs and minutes I then quite often had to burp her for ages. Then after a belch or two she'd get stuck in far better.

VagolaJahooli · 19/02/2012 22:14

Kiwi, I had the same with my two, ds1 loved his mook mook and would go to sleep no other way, ds2 didn't feed to sleep and often seemed more interested in everything else than a feed. However, he ended up feeding longer than ds1 and still mentions his mummy mook mook fondly. I think I managed to get him into feeding to sleep eventually, but I did take several months. He settled into feeding easier at around 4-5 months, oddly when other babies getting a little trickier.

Beans36 · 20/02/2012 13:17

Just applied online to new local council for DD1's place at nursery in September. How grown up she is now. Makes me want to grab her and hold onto her and not let her out!!! But that would be a bit weird.

ZuleikaJambiere · 20/02/2012 15:49

Hey ladies Jolly was right, I've been lurking while BF this week but never managing to post. I'm sure I remember DD1 feeding for 30 minutes minimum at a time, so I was really looking forward to lazy feeds with trashy tv and MN catch ups. But little Annie is much more efficient and is done in 5-10 minutes and I've barely even decided what to watch! Although maybe I was thinking about when E was older? I remember so little about the newborn days, I had to ask the MW for a winding demo as DH and I had a mental block on what to do Blush

DH has taken DD1 to the supermarket, so I'm wallowing in the bath while little A snoozes. Tis lovely

Amazing news about your Dad Beans, and what lovely hols you have to look forward to

Trace that is a proper bummer about the house. Although, I have to say I don't envy the bloke - it's very kind of his future ILs to lend them the money, but if they are making the decisions, what else will they want to control throughout his marriage? You seem to have had a steady stream of viewers recently, so hopefully they will continue and the right buyers will come along soon

A very Happy 1st Birthday to little Jolly, and also little WG for this week. I can't believe a year has passed already. Not only should you have cake on her birthday and due date, but the anniversary of her coming home from hospital is also crying out for a big cake too

How is your house of ill, Kiwi?

I am on my phone, so won't tackle my birth story (as if this time last week we were just enjoying first snuggles and first feeds with little A - so weird to think that just over 7 days ago she was still in me and I only had one child!), but when I haul myself out of the bath I'm going to grab something more typing friendly and crack on with it, as it is lovely (even if I say so myself!) Back soon ladies

KiwiPanda · 20/02/2012 19:35

ZJ Hope it was a lovely long relaxing unbroken-by-crying bath! DD1 was always a very efficient feeder too, never fed for longer than 20 minutes when newborn, usually much quicker. DD2 seems to be done in 5 max now!

Indith, Beans, Vag thanks for advice. Beans It LOOKS just like wind so not silly suggestion at all - teh way she wriggles is definitely like that - but she's like it from get-go and has no discomfort when lying down/ stopped etc. She's a pretty wind free baby actually, never had to burp her even when newborn, she used to burp herself when lying down..! Indith let down is efficient but not too forceful I think - in fact when the let down kicks in she does often calm down a bit and feed a little more solidly for 45 seconds or so but then she's back to teh wriggle tricks. I honestly think she just would rather go longer between feeds! This morning I fed her at abotu 9, then went out to a baby playgroup nearby. At about 11 or so she was getting a bit grumpy adn as she'd slept on the way I figured she couldn't be that tired so maybe was hungry. Tried to feed her but she can't have had more than a minute or two in abotu 20 different latching-ons, before I gave up. then she didn't want another feed again until 2.30! I guess I just need to trust her that she'll tell me when she's hungry rather than me thinking "oh but it's been 3 hours she MUST be". As long as she's gaining weight I guess it's just how she is! She did fall from 50th to 25th centile but is now plotting along that line i think.

DH is the altest in the house to get teh germs now. Poor him!

JollyBear · 20/02/2012 20:45

Hello all,

kiwi Has she always been a wriggly feeder? I found it got harder to bf when DD became more interested in what was going on around her. Lots of latching on and off. She is like that now and her best feeding has started to be in the middle of the night Hmm. Not sure what to suggest! One neo-natal nurse showed me a wonderful burping technique where you just sit them up very straight and hold them under the chin, no rubbing or patting and in about 10-30 seconds they let out a huge burp. It really works.

veggie They don't know what is going on with my kidneys really. They think the high BP is unrelated to the kidneys as they are working beautifully. I've had some bonkers comments about bf from health professionals. My GP said when DD2 was 9 months 'well you'll be stopping soon surely, she's had all the goodness'. Confused Obviously formula is fine (DD1 had nothing but!) but they don't take into consideration the comfort (and convenience) that bf offers at all.

ZJ Can't wait for your birth story. Hope you enjoyed your bath. It sounded heavenly. Thanks for the birthday wishes for J. A cake on the day she came home, what a marvelous idea!

beans You've made me panic, am I meant to apply for a place somewhere? I thought nursery sorted it all out. Oh do you do it through the council because it is a pre-school attached to the school?

WG I noticed good reviews in the guardian for your DH's programme. Are you doing anything special birthday wise for DD2? I've rather left it to the last minute.

DD2 is getting a few books of DD1's I hid when we moved Blush. It is silly to duplicate though. I'd rather get them some nice outdoor toys to share when it is warm enough to play outside again Grin.

KiwiPanda · 20/02/2012 20:45

Oh and don't forget Bleak old Shop of Stuff is on right now!! WG I'm now following your husband on twitter (where's a stalker emoticon now...?)

ZuleikaJambiere · 20/02/2012 20:58

Hello, I'm back with our birth story, as promised. Strangely, it started exactly the same way as E's - with my waters going with a pop at 4am on a Monday morning. So we mopped up, made a cuppa and after about half an hour (as last time) my contractions started and I rang through to the MLU and they asked me to come in. Having learnt from last time, we both showered, had some breakfast before loading the car - by which time the ILs were up and we called MIL over to stay with E. When we got to hospital it turned out they had no one on the MLU or the labour ward, no one on post natal, no one due to come in for an induction or section - and so we had the run of the place and loads of bored midwives looking for something to do, and we were practically showered in tea and toast as they fought over us!

The Midwife Led Unit at Scarborough is new since I had E, and couldn't be more different from their labour ward - spacious rooms with ginormous birth pools (I assume the rental ones for home births aren't that big? I'd never fit one in my house), sofas, loads of pillows, balls etc, so we were quite excited by it all. I had my TENS going and was walking around and I was coping with it all pretty well. (Random aside - at this point I received from my job share that she'd just had a baby girl, so I was determined to crack on and make sure they shared their birthday!)

Suddenly, at lunchtime my contractions ramped up a bit and I felt I needed something as well as my tens machine, so the MW examined me to see if I was dilated enough to get in the pool - as this was my only examination I was terrified she was going to say 2cm, but hurrah, I was 6cm and so the pool was filled. I started to have mixed feelings by this point, as with E I got to 6cm and then slowed right down and ended up on a syntocin drip, laid on my back and with epidural - and it took another 6 hours until she was born. But this time there was only G&A and the pool, and 6 hours felt like a scarily long time. But getting in the pool was such a relief, finally I understand why water births are raved about. I hadn't intended to give birth in the pool, but there was no getting me out once I was in! It was heavenly.

And less than an hour later, Annie was born. Having not 'felt' the final stages of labour before, I was shocked at the relentlessness of the contractions towards the end and was begging for a break between them. I also remember telling DH that I didn't want to give birth and maybe he should do it, but then I remembered the lovely Urbanes birth story and her recognising transition, and I realised I was at the same point, which calmed me down. She was born in just 2 or 3 pushes (without tearing this time) and brought up for a cuddle.

We waited until the cord stopped pulsing (took a whole 20 minutes) before DH cut it and was able to get his first cuddle, and then I delivered the placenta naturally too. I am so proud of myself for giving birth, and I feel that this time it was 'my birth', as it was all my own hard work. With E I give all the credit to DH, as he was my cheerleader, supporter and strength and he did all the hard work, as I was too tired and not with it. So now it feels like we've had one birth each, and I love it.

Because there was so little going on in the unit that day (no one else arrived to give birth all day), I agreed to have a student and a work experience girl to come in and chat to me in the early stages. They were both lovely so I let them stay and watch, and for both of them it was their first birth and it was a pleasure to share it with them - although I was conscious that I shouldn't curse or swear in front of the 17 year old!

As they didn't need our room, we could stay there instead of going onto the post natal ward. The ILs brought E up to visit us and then the midwife did all the discharge checks before finishing her shift, and at 10pm we came home.

Little Annie (as we are all calling her, and I fear may stick until she's 18!) is still a chilled out baby, feeds and sleeps beautifully, and occasionally opens her eyes to gaze at one of us. Such a difference to E, who was already making her personality felt by this time. And as much as I love her energy and enthusiasm now, chilled out much nicer in a newborn I think. Guess who is waking most at night?!

Eloise is smitten with her sister and asked me to have another one today! She is being incredibly good with her, and apart from the odd bit of attention seeking, is doing very well. I think this week maybe more of a challenge for her, as it is half term here (are we the only people in the world to have it this week?), she is gutted there's no school and DH is back at work on Wednesday, so it could well be the dullest week ever for her. I'm trying to be supermum and spend lots of time focussing on her, but I'm still feeling a bit tired and sore (although a million times fitter than last time, without having had lots of drugs or 8 stitches) so all we're doing is colouring and glueing together. She made me blub on Friday, when she came home from school with a certificate for trying hard at counting and then drew Annie a (recognisable!) letter 'a' "I learnt it because it's Annie's name", the first recognisable letter or picture she's ever done, I was so proud.

And I will stop rambling now, gosh I really have gone on. But I've been thinking all week about the lovely details I've wanted to share, so as usual I've gone overboard putting them all in! Hope I've not bored you all senseless?!

Kayzr · 20/02/2012 21:08

Awww ZJ that is absolutely beautiful Smile it made me cry. I'd love my next birth to be like that. I'm so pleased for you.

WG much admiration to your DH. It was very very good as usual!!! Grin

JamInMyWellies · 20/02/2012 21:16

Oh ZJ that is lovely. Congratulations again

JollyBear · 20/02/2012 22:37

Aw, ZJ that was beautiful. Well done you!

sybilfaulty · 21/02/2012 00:08

What a lovely story! So peaceful and gentle. Huge love and congratulations to Zoe and Annie.

It's been a bad week here, my adored best friend has died very suddenly and I am struggling to hold it together. Hope to be back soon but thinking of you all XXXX

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JamInMyWellies · 21/02/2012 08:22

Ooh sybs what awful news. Thinking of you. xxx

ZuleikaJambiere · 21/02/2012 09:53

Oh Sybs, that is heartbreaking, I'm thinking of you, and your friends family xx

Indith · 21/02/2012 10:04

Sybil I'm so sorry x

Indith · 21/02/2012 10:07

ZJ what a wonderful story :)

Kiwi you are probably right that you just need to trust her and not base things on how often you think she should be feeding :).

Still pregnant Sooooo fed up. Got quite good potential childcare coverage this week so would be good it I could get cracking!

Kayzr · 21/02/2012 10:14

Sybs, I'm so sorry. Thinking of you x