September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012

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Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

Just a quick check in - little one feeding 2.5 to 3 hourly now as I have stopped feeding on demand. He still wakes every 1.5 hours but I just use his dummy now. Got rid of the night light too which has helped. Sorry I can't reply to everyone individually but on
My phone. Hope everyone okay

minkyj really hope that helps.

My Lo last two nights I've been up 6xs plus our other DD been up everynight last couple wks. My DH cracked with older one last night so I took over at midnight, she did eventually settle but then babe up every 1.5-2hrs :( :( I'm just SO fed up getting up so much and tired. It is yet again a full moon this always affects our DD1 so hopefully it will pass again.

Sorry too.zombie to reply more, hope you all have gd wed. I may take Lo swimming today to see if exercise help her poo and wear her out we only been once before "bug" season Nov-Feb hit (lots colds&tum bugs about) swimming pool gd environment to catch them all :)

Oh, so sorry to hear of wakey babies and tired mummies! And QRGM, I really hope your ankle gets better soon

DD is also a bit grim with teef-grief atm as I think her toppers are beginning to make their presence felt (both bottom ones came through last week). She was properly howling at 3am and then woke everyone up again at 5.30. And she found it really hard to settle yesterday evening too until I dosed her with calprofen.

She and I should be going swimming this morning but she's also got a stinking cold and I have athlete's foot for the first time in my life and I figure, especially since the pool is at a local primary school, it'd be very antisocial to go and spread my disease everywhere. And I'm too to wear verruca socks and advertise my mankiness to the world!

The weather is grim here today so I have no idea what I'm going to do with DS when he gets home from nursery. Normally we would do some baking but my cooker is still knackered so I might just have to drag the paints and craft stuff out

Ah feral cant believe your lo has top teeth coming through already! How cute! Not the howling though I suppose

Hope you are feeling better for your new regime Minkyjj.

QRGM hope your ankle is on the mend.

I'm getting a bit annoyed at the amount of articles I keep reading that are telling me lo should be sleeping through by now, when in reality I know how many of us are having the same issues with babies of the same age!

I know my lo doesn't do too badly but I'm concerned at her reliance on feeding to get back to sleep. She goes to bed between 7.30 - 8 and then wakes between 11 - 11.30 then back till about 3.15 then the fun starts! Lucky if I get her back down for half an hour and then she usually ends up coming in my bed until she is wide awake at about 6!

I'm really not sure what to try with her, really think I'm just going to have to take the plunge and just sit up by her cot settling her.

Hope you all have lovely days even though the weather is poop!

xx

Uggh I have got a spitting baby her latest trick huge bubbles blowing and spit spraying she has soaked the front of her t shirt with it in an hour.

Hope you are doing ok with the ankle queengeek and some help.

sarah I'd just do what you feel comfortable with babe at the moment on sleep they all so different. You will get to a point when your happier to do sleep training if its needed this is such a young age. I was reading bit off Kellymom site last week she has some gd stuff on there. It said sleeping through is another skill to learn just like eating, walking and they all get there in the end when they are ready. I'd mostly agree with that but our nearly 5yr still has lots of trouble!

Babe loved swimming today but it did not wear her out like I'd hoped only 35min nap after now she really needs a nap and is borderline settling and I've got to leave for school in 10mins grrrrrrr hey Ho.

Sarah, my LO is exactly like yours. Problem is I sometimes can't even open my eyes to haul him out of crib and feed let alone stay awake till he has finished so don't know how to cope sitting by cot to sooth him each time he wakes up. maybe I should just stop trying and go with his flow, at least I might get some sleep.

DS and I have bad colds atm. :( I have a particularly bad hacking cough and DS is as grumpy as I feel. Lots of posts to catch up on! Feel like poo right now so will do a proper reply later.

Thanks ssmile, I've had a look at the articles on kellymom and they are reassuring.

Candr i definitely think i need to go with the flow, just need to chill about it all in general at the mo but tiredness making it hard!

Wish I didn't need answers for everything all the time and could just relax

sarah its normal first time mum to worry. I was awful with my first felt like I was the only mum in the antenatal group whose baby was up all night, I was a walking zombie of sleep exhaustion I kept tryin to do the "right" thing letting her cry &putting her back in the cot as that was what the book said etc didn't make a blind bit of difference! This time around babe not really waking up less but I'm just feeding on demand and crib is by the bed so I'm getting more rest as I'm not yet doing long bouts of crying it out in the vain hope she will learn to sleep through earlier.

Thanks ssmile I appreciate that. I get so hung up on trying to do the right think. I'm determined to be more chilled about it from now on, have to remind myself that she's still only little and is doing really well.

Xx

Sarah - I went through the same thing... got worried that all the books (well, ok, one book) said that you should put them down and they should settle themselves off to sleep, just like that, without any rocking, dummies etc etc. So, I spent a few nights trying to "train" my LO to go to sleep on her own - did the crying it out thing once - and not for too long - as got so distraught at her crying so much - and me - that couldn't do it... just don't have the guts to let her just cry (plus, we have 2 other kids to think about - they'd be awake all night too). So, gave up, and we still have to rock her to sleep in our arms for both daytime naps and nighttime (except if she's in the car!) but I reckon now that it works for both us and her, so who cares if it's not by the book. As Ssmile said (and she said it for me too at the time - thank you ssmile :)) they're still only little and expectations are just too high. Some babies do and will sleep through the night with minimal support, some babies won't. I'm like you, I wish books would stop saying that at this age they should be doing one thing or another... I guess we need a rough guide for their development, but they're all different - and will get there in the end!! My LO can lift herself up when on her front, and can sit up on her own but she still hasn't rolled over ... despite the books saying she should by now. But, I'm not worrying about it - perhaps she just doesn't see the point!

Anyway, I hope you get some sleep and your LO in whichever way works best for you both.

Cake - hope you are feeling better...

Thank you sebs. You're so right, I'm giving up books for now and following my instincts and relying on chatting to you other mummies in the same boat as we clearly know better!

My lo isn't fussed about rolling either, but she does love to suck her toes which I think is much cuter! Ha ha!

Sending sleepy dust to all of you and your bubbas xx

Sarah, if you want to read a slightly different sort of book that will give you some reassurance and drum it into you that you really can relax and go with the flow, try The No Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley which completely changed my entire outlook on sleep 'problems' when DS was putting me through it three years ago.

I got my copy for a couple of quid on Amazon and I still pick it up every now and again just for the reassurance of an 'expert' telling me that it's normal for babies to take their time. It's a lovely book and bits of it genuinely made me cry with relief as it was so good to read something by someone who really understands but can also offer some very gentle, practical advice.

That said, I was still all when DD woke up after only a 20 min nap this afternoon as I know she needs longer and I really wanted DS to have some 1:1 time with me this afternoon.

Thanks feral. Funnily enough I have got a copy of that book that i started to dip into the other day. I did start to pick up some tips already like making lo's routine a bit more predictable with similar times each day for meals and play and bath etc as I think our routine was pretty scatty!

We didn't have a great night, lo was in bed with me from 11pm as was waking every 20 minutes in her cot but I think mainly due to overtiredness as she just wouldn't sleep yesterday. Anyway, onwards and upwards and I do feel encouraged by all your support xx

Well. Have dd1 at home today with flu - was throwing up all night, high temp and flu symptoms. I have just come back from a girly lunch as dh covered me for a couple of hours and have started to feel very ropey. Hope it's very short lived and stops here.

Hope it's not severe Minky!

Might have to get that no cry book myself soon; ds has been good but I really feel like he should be sleeping longer at nights - he wakes only about 2-3 times (which is great compared to the 5-6 times a couple of weeks ago!) but I still feel he should be able to go longer now with the amount he eats during the day.

Good news - my house went on the market on Monday and we accepted an offer today! It's only just gone onto Rightmove today! Now just to find another house to buy...

Cake hope you're feeling better

Ssmile my lo's new trick is to blow raspberries when eating baby porridge - right onto my glasses! I end up with tiny spots in front of my eyes!

Ankle is fine, just a bit painful to walk on. In the past I have torn all three ligaments in both ankles (at separate times) and so am resigned to a life of weak ankles that snap at the slightest pressure. Sometimes I'm out of action for months - able to walk but not much else. This time seems not so bad, but don't want to risk further injury so am taking it easy for a while so it can heal fully. At least I can walk and drive!

Yaay for the offer on the house QRGM, that's fantastic! Fingers Xed for the perfect house soon.

Poor you Minky, and poor DD. Hope the babe doesn't get it as that'd be really grim.

Bizarrely, since she's got a rotten cold, DD had the best night's kip in about 3 months last night. After a bit of a ropey time getting settled she then didn't wake until 3.30 when I gave her a quick feed and tried to put her back in her cot, only to be woken a couple of minutes later by her head-butting me until I moved over and let her crawl in next to me whereupon she went straight back to sleep and didn't wake up until 7.30!

minkyj hope it passes quick

geek Fab news on the house hope you can find something nice. I keep looking as we need to move as small two bed at moment but really we be better waiting until DD2 is 3 and the very high nursery bill starts to drop.

Feeling very low today, think it partly hormones and exhaustion. DD1 been ill all week with ear infection, and babe feeding every two hours around the clock this week. I was really hopeful last night as she had her biggest amount of solids yest and gd quality naps but no she up two hourly. At least other DD slept, but I shouted at her this morning as she wasn't cooperating in the teeth&hair brushing and we running late so end up saying sorry as she sobbed tired too on my lap. But she skipped into school so think she ok. Also fallen off my diet eating a dble Decker at 9am :( I've been doing so well lately too lost 18lbs since Xmas. Think I need some duvet time. Sorry for moan hope the sunshine comes back and we all have more restful weekend.

Rant coming up!

Dp away in Paris with work and is always the same when he goes away, he contacts a bit at first and then it tails off and he seems to forget to ask how we are - he hasn't ask me at all how our nights have been!

This morning I texted him as didn't want to feel like it had to come from him and he didn't even ask how we both are just said that he was looking forward to finishing his training and he had a great night out! sad]

I really don't want to be moaning about this as if I do tell him, i know he will feel bad - after initially being very defensive probably! It's just hard and comes across as a little bit selfish when he doesn't think to ask how we are getting on.

I could go on but probably shouldn't, he is generally great but just sometimes becomes a bit oblivious and kind of selfish, he still gets to do most of the things he did before lo came along whereas I don't at all but he never offers for me to have any of my own time he tells me I should just ask if I ever bring it up! It would just be nice to feel like he was thinking about me by offering instead of him doing the things he wants to do.

I hate to moan as I've had a lovely time with lo, she has been a little gem (apart from the sleeping ) I just wish they realised sometimes!

Ok that's enough now, sorry if that sounds really petty just had to get it off my chest!

Hope everyone ok xx

Felt bad for not commenting....

Minky really hope you haven't picked up the bug, my bro & sil have had it and wiped them out, really not what you need! Hope you're feeling better v.soon.

Queen that's fab news about your house - how exciting, enjoy looking for another house, such fun!

Feral brilliant sleep, sounds lush in very jealous! Long may it continue! Funny how when you don't expect them to they have a good night! Typical mischievous bubbas!

Ssmile hope your day picks up from now. Sending you virtual hugs and smiles and flowers!

sarah I felt the same with my first as my DH career has continued on up trajectory whilst my life has stalled and I'm the invisible cleaner, cook, exhausted mum, stalled career. We had to talk a lot (well I'm the talker he is listener mostly :) ) the first year is really hard on both parents dads get shunted out a lot especially if mum is BF and feel helpless &guilty can't help overnight (well mine did) I found it got easier once DH could look after babe more when she was 1yr+ This time around I've felt like this at times again especially as we still mostly sleep apart to survive but we keep talking and normally over the weekend I get 1hr to myself somehow, which I ask for and plan! its not much but keeps me sane to have a walk or cycle or read on the bed without children. I also try to give him some down time too. Gd luck keep talking men mostly aren't mind readers even if we wish they were at times! My DH is expected to go off to Asia for 10d business trip in next couple mths I'm not looking forward to that....

V quick hello from a service station near Bristol - have been here for over an hour feeding & changing etc. Used to take us 4 hours to get to Cornwall but today I fear we will take the whole day!

Need to catch up with posts but just wanted to say hi!

Ooh, are you on your way down here TP? Good to hear from you btw. Weather's quite nice - very warm - so I hope it holds for you

Sarah I totally hear what you're saying. I spent a huge amount of time ranting at DH for not offering to do stuff first time around and not just noticing when I needed some help/ a hug/ relief from DS. Three years on and DH has been primary carer (when I'm not on mat leave) and he is considerably better at all the practical stuff although he still has to be prompted to do the emotional support. The feminist in me gets a bit grr when people say things like this but I do think that it's just the way that men are (it does seem like it's making an excuse for them). I think most men don't really 'get' it with the emotional intelligence stuff and they do have to be told, "I am exhausted. I need your support. Give me a hug now."

Interestingly, this was a topic for debate on Women's Hour this morning as the dreaded Gina Ford has just written a book about being a contented mummy. I am resisting the temptation to buy it as I have sworn to break my addiction to parenting books, especially SWMNBN

Ssmile hope you're feeling better now. Some days are duvet days and it's frustrating when you can't get into bed and shut out the world!

Sarah been there too. I have learnt to just say to DH what I want, otherwise we'd never get anywhere! It would be nice for him to do it off his own backside but it's true, men have the emotional intelligence of a fruit fly.

Our current thing is DH getting annoyed at me repeating what I've said up to three times, louder each time, but it's because he hasn't acknowledged that he's even heard me! I'm trying to train him up... All fun and games!

I think we'll all have to leave big hints about Mothers' Day coming up! Although I don't know what to ask for, any ideas?

You lot are actually the best! Thanks so much!

So glad it's not just me, men are really just rubbish at the emotional stuff!

Think I will have a chat with him when he gets back, like you ssmile I'm very much the talker and he's the listener but I think w could do with talking through a few things. I also think we've been neglecting 'us' a little bit lately so I'm not surprised I'm feeling this way - its like it's been brewing for a while!