April 2011 - Food Glorious Food, Sleep Glorious Sleep <subtle key change> They're our babies, we'll obsess if we want to!

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Thread 4 - that's one a month!

GGF I've just seen your pictures of P on Facebook. Poor P - those spots look so itchy. The poor little mite. I hope she's a little bit better today.

P is rolling over with gusto now. She can still only go from back to front though, so we keep having to go and rescue her when she gets stuck. Rather annoying in the middle of night. Will she carry on rolling over in the cot (and need rescuing) until she can turn herself back the other way, or will she just get bored of rolling once the novelty wears off?! I'm hoping she gets bored of it sooner rather than later!

We have a tooth and I think the second one is close behind judging by the finger chewing and sleepless nights. Sorry for not name checking. Hugs for those in need.

Gawd, I am bleeding knackered. We went to Colchester Zoo today and we walked around for about 6 hours. And what was ds2 favourite animal? A flippin pig! Baby I liked looking at the colourful fish, the penguins and the sea lions. An early night for me tonight I think.

I loved the aqua draw story Gache If we had one I am sure ds2 would have done that. He's often thinking up new ways to wee. His favourite is al fresco wee's. I often hear him calling from the garden 'I've just had a wee up the tree mummy', goodness knows what the neighbours think!

Who knows about the rolling Star! I'm on baby number 3 and still can't work them out or predict their behaviour!

Hurrah for the teeth Kitty.

Fizzog - reading your posts is like listening to that policeman in 'allo 'allo

P is hopefully starting to improve now, she doesn't seem to be getting many more new spots now. The ones on her face have gone a darker red but the surronding skin isn't as angry looking as it was yesterday.

I posted in AIBU about the Piriton. [aren't I brave smiley].

Yay for teeth kitty still no sign of any here for P but I remember DS got his 1st two within a week of each other.

Ilike Don't get me started on outdoor weeing. DS enjoys "watering the tree" at his GP's. I took him to the park the other day and he started pulling his pants down slap bang in the middle of the playground . I had to hoick them up and take him into the bushes by the duckpond. . I wouldn't have minded so much if we hadn't been in the park cafe 5mins earlier where DS was absolutely adament he didn't need to go as he'd gone at preschool before I picked him up .

Sorry been awol again, was working Friday and today so been lacking on MN opportunities!!

Fizz Can't give any advice on gluten intolerance but I know when I first sarted weaning R she would sometimes be a little bit sick later on. I just put it down to her tummy getting used to having more in it, she's fine now though. Hope it is just that and nothing more :)

GGF Poor little P's spots look sore & itchy. Hope she's feeling better soon. Love the aqua mat story!! Sounds like something DSS would do, he's turning into a right little bugger these days. So much so, that his mum brought him up here last Sunday because she was at her wits end with him. Apparently he'd trashed his room, ripped the wallpaper off the walls and thrown all his toys down the stairs!! He's never as bad as that while he's here but I'm not sure if that's more to do with me thinking I'm Jo Frost?! DP thinks I'm a bit strict but it's my opinion that if we don't get on top of things now he's going to be completely wild by the time he's going to school next summer.

Kitty Yay for teeth, hope that's been the cause of your sleepless nights and that it starts to improve a bit now. R still only has the teeny little tip of one tooth right round the side despite the fact I've been predicting the bottom front too are coming in every day for the last month!! I imagine once the sleep starts to get disturbed the teeth will be properly on the move!!

Star Good news about the rolling, R has never repeated the experience after er last attempt. She also still can't sit up unaided :( she's getting better but it's not there yet. Think she's a bit lazy when it comes to physical activity!!

On the weaning front things are going well, am trying to make food a bit more lumpier now as she'll be 6 months next Monday and this is what the health visitor advised. Am meant to be starting to introduce finger foods too but after the carrot choking incident I'm a little bit dubious about it. For those of you that have done this before, how have you increased amounts of food versus reducing amounts of milk?? At the mo R will mostly still have all her milk feeds but today we tried 3 small meals at breakfast, lunchtime and tea time and she wouldn't take her bottle after tea time, well not until about 7pm which has now upset the timings for the bed time feed. Am I giving her too much to eat or is this the general idea? HV advised not cutting out any feeds until at least 8 months but I guess that is generic advice and maybe isn't the same for every baby? An example of what she's had today is porridge and fruit at breakfast, mashed veg and a little more fruit at lunch time (both of which she wolfed down and finished all the milk too) a milk feed at 3.30pm and then homemade soup and some mashed banana at tea time but then she wasn't too keen for her milk and only took around 3-4ozs about an hour after the food. Anyone got any suggestions??

Hi to everyone else :)

Hope work is going ok MrsWajs How's it going with your evil boss?
I like Jo Frost, we use timeouts for DS they're very effective. He has to go and sit in his bedroom on the chair for 3mins and the threat on one usually results in a "Noooo, not the chair mummy, I be good boy now".

On the weaning front, i've just been over there in topics and found this BLW Banter Thread. I said i'd put a link here as some of us might pop over

Haha GGF work has been fine as evil boss is on holiday!! Yay! Doing those 3 days though has made me realise I don't want to do anymore until I have to go back in January! Its like I've never been away and I really want to spend as much time as I can with R before I go back!
DSS isn't as easy to time out apparently, when his mum tried he kicks, spits and punches according to her Thankfully we've never had that here, I seriously would not tolerate it!!

Ilike, my parents took me to London Zoo when I was about 10 and all I wanted to do was feed the squirrels.

MrsW, I am also wondering about the food to milk ratio. I can't offer much advice though. When I took C to be weighed yesterday I mentioned to the HV that he was on two meals a day but was only really interested in the teatime one. She said I must reduce the milk as it was more important to ensure he was eating food, as there's not enough nutrition in milk alone. However, he only had about 20oz of milk in 24 hours, which is what the Annabel Karmel book says all babies should have until they are 1yr. HV disagreed and said they didn't need that much. If that's the case then it's very likely that R is just full and you can drop her milk down.

I tried to give C breakfast before his bottle this morning, which did mean he had a bit of it but still wasn't starving hungry. Am going to talk to the pediatrician at our appointment on Thurs and see what he has to say. Will report back with anything useful.

In other news, C was awake from 03.30 to 04.45. I am knackered and have concluded that I am rubbish at this. He doesn't bloody eat and he doesn't bloody sleep.

Sorry, very self-indulgent of me. Will pull myself together now. Need tea!

Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh! I think alpha mummy is an mner . She had on yhad mn scarf today at group. so did I. so she's probably posting somewhere about me! I got totally flustered and cocking even speak yo her. I kept thinking about 'll yer mn things nice ham bum sex. Then when her daughter picked up the toy penguin she said "ooh shiney" then looked at me.

I had to leave.

Jo you are not rubbish. if you are then we all are. hv sounds like she's talking out her arsenal. someone else will know more about milk intake ghsn me but if you follow your gut id say you were dojbg thru right hhkng..

Phones gone mental again

Rubbish mummy checking in to the club! Who's got the ?

Waiting for white wine to chill in the fridge :)

Fizz - PMSL at your phone, and EEEKK at AM being an MNer!! (though i don't know what the scarf is?) How scary, keep an eye out for AIBU thread about some woman wearing the same scarf as me, how dare she?!

Fireworks going off here tonight, sigh. cats unhappy.

DS2 had a bad cough & cold, so it has kicked off his asthma. up most of the night with him. exhausted today. hoping for better tonight.
Did manage a one-off nap x 3 today, him, DD & Me
and DD gone to bed early, for her. can hear DS2 mucking about up there still but no surprise as he doesn't normally nap anymore in the daytime.

Jo - i'm pretty sure your HV was talking rubbish about milk not having enough nutrients at her. For eg, BF babies who do BLW, milk is their main source of nutrition until they are 12 months. Sure someone else will say the same more scientifically soon.

In a&e with b. I pulled his arm while we were playing and now he's not moving it and screaming if we touch it :(:(:( officially the wors t mummy here.

Oh Fizz :( nightmare.

Weirdly was talking to friend who is an A&E nurse about arm injuries this morning. she said that they happen all the time, it's very easy to do. and if it's an elbow popping out, they pop back in very easily. in fact it's the closest she says she comes to magic :)

hopefully you'll be home drinking recovering asap x

Jo we were up at 3.30am too, in fact S decided that 3.14am was wake up time...[hhmm] Suffice to say I'm not surprised that he conked out so completely when we got home this evening that I managed to get him upstairs, nappy change, babygro on, bit more boob, into sleeping bag and into cot without him really waking up!

Oh and you're not rubbish Jo currently S's sleep is even more all over the place than usual (naps, what are they?!), he's not eating much food (unless it's hummous on toast...), and still isn't taking much, if any milk from a cup so if you were rubbish goodness knows where I'd rank!

Chinks glass with Buck (One of the perks of being back at work is I don't feel guilty for having a little glass of read each evening!)

Fizz please, please take some 'naice' ham sandwiches next time a meeting with AM is on the cards. "oh, would you like a sandwich? Tis vair naice ham..." [hgrin]

MrsW I now have an image of you do the Jo Frost over glasses stare with finger wagging! I'm glad work was ok without evil boss lady there. We're still toothless so am in fact quite jealous of R's even little bit of tooth.

GGF Glad to hear that P seems to be improving!

I'm loving all these stories from those of you with older LO's...though I have noticed that most concern boys, and peeing...what have I got to come!! [hconfused]

I'm pretty sure that BLW or puree route all babies tend to get the majority of their calories and general 'good stuff' from their milk whether its BM or Formula. I only have one friend with a baby older than S that I see regularly and she's BLW, at around 8months her DD did significantly drop day time feeds but until then not much changed.

Gah, x posted!

Oh Fizz, poor B and poor you! Hope you're in and out quick hugs

huh? how did I manage to make 'hugs' a link?

Have some more (non linky) ((((hugs)))) Fizz

Hello All,
We're back from mini holiday/anniversary thing. It was lovely to go back after 2 years - a number of people around the village recognised us, something to do with the amount of time we've spent in Theakston's brewery and the other pubs . M charmed everyone with her smiles and we generally had a relaxing time. We now have a repeat of a photo we took the day after our wedding in the grounds of the hotel, but now there are 3 of us on the picture :)
M's sleeping wasn't brilliant but she was in a strange travel cot which didn't seem to have the best of mattresses - it felt like a few bits of plywood joined together with big gaps between each one. I recommended a new mattress in the cottage questionnaire. Generally she seems to be havign alternate good and bad nights, so tonight should be bad if she keeps it up, but she is back in her own cot.

Dairy I thought you were linking to a site that provided hugs

Fizz hope B is ok - I worry I might hurt M by pulling her into sitting while she holds my fingers.

GGF hope P is better now.

Oh Fizz - poor you and B . Fingers crossed that everything is ok.

I'm so tired tonight. Will do a proper post tomorrow. Too sleepy to think straight at the moment!

Only one new spot today but on her bottom lip

I hope B is ok Fizz, don't beat yourself up about it, a trip to A & E is just one of the many milestones of parenting.

It's o'clock here, I was going to do the ironing tonight but last time I did ironing after I burnt my finger. Will have to leave it for tonight and go to bed instead, shame.

Thanks for that Jo I would say R is definitely having at least 20ozs a day I did think myself that encouraging more food and less milk was the way to go about it but then I read some of the feeding threads and heard a lot of "food should just be fun until one" so not sure now!? When I asked HV about it she just said no reducing milk feeds until 8 months at least, I'm not seeing her again now until February by which time R will be 9 months. Last night and today our usual routine has gone to pot due to mealtimes and R has basically gone to bed at about 7.30pm with me then having to go up at about 9ish and sort of dream feed her again. I know for a fact that she won't go down after a last milk feed at 7 and sleep until a decent time in the morning. Ho hum it's so confusing!! Hope the paed can offer some more advice for you to share with me And you're not rubbish at being a mummy!!

Fizz Poor little B and you too, bet you're bloody worried sick. Am sure he'll be fine though.

Buck Have another glass

Dairy I do infact have Jo Frost style glasses

Chilli Glad you had a nice time away.

I've been told repeatedly that milk remains the main source of nutrition for some time so not to sweat it if weaning stops and starts.

Poor you Fizz, hope all is ok x

Am exhausted. H slept well but DP and I had a row and it meant I slept really badly. it was over nothing, we're just tired and both have a nasty cold. Eugh.

Aw, thank you Aprilites. Feeling much better today as C only woke for a short time at 3am and DH got him back to sleep. Then he didn't wake up till 07.40, so I've had quite the night. It does mean we're now running late and he won't be up from his nap in time for us to go to baby signing - oh well, we'll just have to do Wind The Bobbin Up ourselves.

Fizz I hope all is well. You poor thing, it must make you feel dreadful but try not to beat yourself up and bear in mind that B won't remember a thing.

Buck, I'll go a Pop Tart. Thanks.

GGF, impressed that you would even contemplate ironing. I haven't had the iron out more that twice since the arrival of C. If it needs ironing we don't wear it. Hope P is on the mend.

Chilli, your break sounds lovely and how cute to get a repeat photo.

Dairy, I have also noticed, with fear, the stories about boys and peeing. My friends have a five year old who they have to plop on the loo at around 11pm for a 'dream wee' otherwise he can't make it through the night. Apparently boys are rather bad at getting themselves to the loo. Imagine the fun to come?!

In weaning news, C did brilliantly with his tea last night but breakfast still not working. I offered it before his milk again but he just wasn't bothered. Then he spied his bottle and stared at it and squealed till I gave him some (note to self: do not put milk on table again). Short of force feeding him I don't really see how I can make him eat and all the advice is quite clear on not getting stressed and making meal times an unplesant experience. Going to introduce lunch today and see if that appeals. Or I might just go to Sainsburys, buy a load of Ella's Kitchen pouches and chuck them away. Cut out the middle man.

Morning We finally got home at around 10.30, 4 hours in a&e I think may become a occurance I have to get used to.

B had a pulled elbow, not dislocated but the tendons or something pop into the wrong place. A little bit of poking and proding and a little twist and it went back in to place. The nurses were lovely and reassuring that it happens all the time. B was the 4th they'd had in yesterday. Sadly though it means that because it's happened once it could happen dozens of times before he grows out of it. My sister was exactly the same. I think she got to 8 times.

He is none the worse for his little adventure and currently sleeping. Thank god! I might just try for a wee nap myself!

Thanks for all your support girls!

Fizz - that elbow popping thing is exactly what my A&E friend was talking about. If he's going to be prone to it you need to learn a technique for popping it back in yourself - she described it but I can't remember exactly what she said, maybe ask your sister if she ever learnt?

Food is definitely meant to be about fun til they're one so don't stress about dropping milk if they don't want to :)