september edd new babies arriving come share the ups and downs here

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Hello. Think i was first to deliver off the September EDD thread so waving to see if anyone else out there yet to join me :)
Had my 2nd DD on 26aug by C-sec. We now home but struggling with BF and baby lost 10% body weight in 3days. Started to top up with formula in syringe to try give cracked. Bleeding nipples a rest, but milk is starting to drip out now leaking everywhere! Hoping for a better night tonight after 3nights of hourly feeds and snatching 2-3hrs of sleep.
Anyone else struggling too?

• it doesnt have 2 b at nursery, it could b @ pre-school. Im not sure whicj other childcare providers u can use it with. The info will prob b on direct.gov.uk

Minky, hope your LO hasn't got reflux, and great on the weight gain. :)

ssmile, I hope come 6 weeks she starts going down a little earlier, it's between 11 and 12 at the moment, even if I wake her earlier in the morning.

jimmi, hope you manage to escape the sickness?

We had a massive poo explosion last night. She's obviously like her mummy and only goes a few times a week, the last time was Tuesday, I think she had brewed everything up for last night! LOADs of poo, escaped out of all her clothes, got on the bouncy chair she was in, cue bath time. But wow, she really loves the bath, loves loves loves it. :)

Just been out for a run :) Enjoyed it. Wasn't easy peasy, but not as hard as I remember it feeling last year, but then I'm 3 stone lighter than my last run, so that might have something to do with it.

Was mega tired yesterday morning had only had 3 hours sleep by 7am, so I asked OH to do the next feed and let me have some more time in bed. Ended up sleeping from 7:30 -9 got up sorted out bottle, then slept for another hour, felt like a new person. :) Just what I needed. Thank heavens for expressing milk.

100 its amazing wpt a couple of extra hours in bed does 4u :+) glad it helped!

Now due in september thread is over iv gone all thoughtful...
Is there any1 on this thread who may have been on the ttc a september baby thread? Wpuld have been nearly a year ago. Its amazing whats happened in that year!! (ttc, concieved, pregnancy, getting frustrated @ end of pregnancy, giving birth, & now 4 me, have a gorgeous little boy who's 4 weeks old !)

Jimmy - hope you are all on the mend. I wasn't on the ttc thread as I had two miscarriages before we managed this baby and I was a bit too scared to even talk about the conception.
Had an amazing day today going back to my church for the first Sunday with dcs and lo - so many congratulations and people excited about our new addition. I agree that it's acing to think about how far we have come in a year - what amazing blessings we have all been given.
Lo has slept all day so I have concerns over the lack of sleep I will be getting later !

Well, things are looking up!!!! Lo slept for 3 hours in a stretch in his Moses basket from 12 till 3am and stirred a bit so I put on bedside light but he then fell asleep again and woke wanting fed at 4.30am so 4.5 hours without a feed - woohoo and he slept in the basket - double woohoo !!! He is in a 2.5 tog sleeping bag as he is now 7 10oz so was just big enough - he seems really much happier and I have just changed him and put him back down again. Not convinced it will work all the time but was such a relief to discover that he seems to be more settled - there is hope for sleep !

Thats fab minkyj yah for sleep. My Lo did ok till 2am then had a gulpy feed and I was thinking utoh this doesn't sound gd and sure enough she didn't really settle the rest of the night just wanted to be held. But I can't complain too much as she had 4hrs in her crib 8-12am at start of night, then another 1.5hrs after a sleepy lie down feed.
Hope the sleep fairies were kind to you all

No, not a good night for me either. Worst of all I have discovered he will sleep very well if put on his front gutted. I just can't bring myself to do it at night. I would be able to live with myself. From what age can he sleep on his front? Is it when he can roll over?

Woohoo no sick last night :-)
But i put all our tppthbrush heads in hot water yesterday 2 kill germs, dh's sonicare didnt like it & now now looks more like a desklamp!

love wen they can roll over they can sleep on their front if they roll in2 that position. Ur prob right not 2 put lo on front @ night. My dh was holding lo on v shaped pillow the other day on his front with
2 1 side, wen i looked lo's head was buried face down in pillow- PANICK! Thank goodness all ok!!!! :-)

Hurray for sleep! Not so hurray for disturbed sleep though :( Love, would your DS maybe settle if he was swaddled? It might give him that same feeling of slight pressure against his front and fool him into sleeping? My youngest brother was a tummy sleeper and it worked on him most of the time. We're having more sleeplessness from DS than DD this week. We took the bars off his cotbed and there have been a few bedtime tantrums coupled with 1am tantrums and 4am tantrums. We put the bars back on thinking he wasn't ready and it was worse, he wants the bars off but wants one of us to sleep in his bed with him (which is a habit I really don't want to form).

Jimmijam, hope you're all feeling better today, I can't think of anything more tiring than a group vomiting bug with a newborn in the house too.

I wasn't on the TTC thread for the same reasons as Minky, I find TTC stressful. It took us three years to get pregnant the first time so there'd be a chance I'd be on the thread forever :o It's partly why there are only two years between DS and DD, those three years are still hanging over me so I started TTC when DS was just four months old in case it took that long again. It took six months to conceive DS after my first loss, three months of trying to conceive after DS, and then five months after that loss to conceive DD.

DH has gone back to work today after his paternity leave/annual leave. So far it's going well, one minor blip when I gave DS his cereal but forgot to give him a spoon! Poor little guy didn't even say anything though and just ate it, it was only when I was clearing it away that I realised the spoon I got out for him was still on the counter next to the cereal box. Does it sound awful to say that, much as I love DH, I'm sort of glad he's gone back to work? I have my own little weekday ways and habits and routines and I can get back to them now, it's only been three hours and I already feel more like my old self rather than like I'm in post-pregnancy limbo.

cbear I laughed at the no spoon I've done similar things mainly I just keep forgetting to get DD1 milk out of microwave so she constantly reminding me now as patiently waiting not working for her now mummy head in sleep deprivation fog. And yes I love my DH but hse feels less stressful when on my own, and can watch homes under the hammer eating chocolate in peace :o whilst kitchen looks bombsite but will do later....
Had crap start to morn, babe sick as leaving for school so changed her, get into school playground she projectile vomit over everything, inc DD standing next to buggy got some on her jumper &all over her snuggle dolly. So I'm trying to clean dolly in playground drinking fountain as she really wants to still have her at school or will cry any minute her face said! Had to leave vomit covered babe in pushchair in playground do run n drop into classroom with DD avoidin the don't leave me mummy face...and Sprint 15min uphill walk home. Get babe all clean in sink&dressed and she explodes into her nappy so all clean again. Then screams at me 5mins, I'm SO not gonna fed her till tum settles, now peacefully sleeping in my arms phew I need a :)

cbear i understand wot u mean about time 2 urself! Tho 4 me at the mo, im enjoying being able 2 spend time as a family & having that emotional support arpund as he works shifts so can often go several days just seeing him in passing.

V. ComPlicated but in short we live in the same house as my mum & younger brother (tho have seperate entrances, kitchens etc, like living in a flat i suppose but where the ppl upstairs have access 2 ur flat). She inherited some money a while back & brought out our share/ paid off our mortgage a few months ago now we pay all the household bills. Anyway... The garden.. We rake up the apples wrong, mow the lawn wrong, pressure wash wrong... So we rarely do anything in the garden cuz she only complains. But we cant tell her that cuz sjes very sensitive . So we do very little so not 2 get told off. Today she sed 'u put up 3 lights 4 me and ill pay ur brother 2 mow the lawn 4 u' - -hes 18 , lazy and has no job. Im not agreeing 4 him 2 get paiid 4 that wen he he should b looking 4 a job or on a course. Wen i was 2yrs younger than him i was at college, worked & looked after him wen mum was @ wo & i paid rent. He does nothing!! My mum even pays him 2 get her a pint of milk from the local shop. Just winds me up @ the mo. I know it shouldnt but its hard living like this sometimes. Only now we couldnt really affprd 2 move anywhere else. :'( sorry just had 2 get that off my chest.

Come on lotto numbers :-)

Thanks guys but swaddling isn't having the same effect as it did the first week or two, it was like magic but now he just fights to get his arms out and then doesn't sleep

Love, DD sleeps on her front or her side most of the time. I figure our mothers were all told to settle us like that and we all survived. She sleeps sooo much better - and self settles a lot of the time - and DS was the same. I fretted about it with him and contemplated buying one of those monitors that has an alarm if they stop breathing but never got round to it.

She generally only wakes once at night, and went from 11pm - 6.30am a couple of nights ago , but DS did this at about the same age then hit his 6 week growth spurt and it was all downhill from there (he was obviously the exception to the rule that they become more settled at 6wo!)

I have spent the last three days on my own with the two of them and can really relate to bed time being stressful when you're outnumbered. The night before last I was BFing DD whilst reading to DS and she puked all over his bed I felt so sorry for him, his little face was just so upset and he had to wait for me to change his sheets whilst DD screamed and completely ruined his lovely peaceful bedtime

Then yesterday I really lost my rag with DS when he refused to lie still while I changed his nappy after he'd done a poo. He's too big for the changing table so we have to do it on the floor and he was rolling around and getting it everywhere, DD was also screaming blue murder with wind and I had just totally had enough. I am spending quite a lot of time feeling like a thoroughly shitty mother and very very guilty that neither DC is getting enough love or 1:1 attention. And don't even get me started on what a crap wife I am...

Jimmi, I am so glad your family's bug has passed. I guess the beginning of the school year is the time for stomach upsets as the kids all go back and then it gets passed around. Almost everyone I know with DCs has had a V&D bug in the last couple of weeks.

We have just got over the d and v bug, thank god DS2 didnt get it. He is great and doing really well, only waking once in the night, but its in the day he is unsettled. Now I know its not colic, as that is between 6.30 and 8.00pm of an evening but is only quite mild, he just wants to fall asleep in my arms and then blooming stay there!!

He falls asleep within minutes, and no matter how long I hold him for, he can be fast asleep, mouth open and everything, I lay him down and bang! wide awake and moaning, so just now, i laid him on his tummy, he closed his eyes and went to sleep all by himself, how bad in reality is it? I wouldnt do it at night, but wouldnt mind an hour to myself during the day too! What the general opinion?

He weighed 9lb 2.5oz at birth, went down to 9.1 and then shot up to 9.11, taking him tomorrow to be weighed, cant wait x

Good effort MrsS and babyS! And DD sleeps on her front too so I personally think it's OK.

Meant to ask, does anyone else's DC have baby acne? DD is well spotty and it's gruesome. Is there anything you can do or do I have to just wait for it to go? Combined with the puking and a blocked tear duct, it's lucky that we love her so much as, objectively speaking, she's not very attractive!

Oh feral, no. You're anything but a shitty mother and wife, for one thing shitty mothers don't worry that they're shitty because they just don't care that much. It's so hard going from one to two and I've had the same worries myself, a few nights ago DS took a tantrum at bedtime and was howling for me but whenever I went in there he was just flinging himself on the be and pushing me away while crying. Looking back I know he was just overtired and having a strop about it, next morning he was his usual sunny self but at the time it was blatanly obvious that he hated me for ruining his life by bringing a new baby into the house and forcing him to share the attention that used to be all his own. I cried my eyes out on my own bed while he cried his eyes out in his. It's a big adjustment and it's difficult right now because you're still adjusting but it'll get better, it must do otherwise no one would ever have more than two. If you need to vent here then vent away, but you're not shitty at all.

DD has baby acne too, or I'm presuming it is anyway. He has a raised bumpy rash on her forehead and cheekbones and the back/side of her neck and ears. DH has taken to calling her Speckle I thought it was maybe the soap powder at first but it's not on her body or limbs so almost certainly acne. DS had it and it went away on it's own, not much that can be done for it.

I was going to be good and make a nice dinner and have loads of housework done and DS all mellow for DH getting home. He got in ten minutes go to find DS has a huge black eye from running face first into the side of the table, DD had filled her nappy and was chomping for a feed which she couldn't have until I finished changing her, and that dinner will be a take-away because I can't be bothered to cook. I did do DS his dinner though and did the few dishes that were there as well as the floor (my "I did them" I mean that my mum came and did them for me).

Tomorrow is another day!

Maybe its the approachin full moon...my DH walked in door at 6pm and i burst into tears had enough after one of those days I'd finally sat down to eat my dinner and babe started crying, then DD1 wanted a cuddle, house tip and then DD1 said plaintively wwhheenn will daddy be home...I want daddddeeey grrrrrrr hopefully peace will descend by 8.30pm....

We coming out of baby acne Lo had lots on face, neck &head. I washed once day cool water, and used DD1 epderm cream as when DD1 had it lead to mild exsema brain cannot spell at this time of night! And yes the sibling rivalry dynamics is very hard to manage when vsleep deprived &got min patience

Had a crap weekend. LO breast feeding went all to pot. She wouldlstch on for 5 mins then either fall asleep or fidget like crazy. Tried all sorts but nothing worked which just gotme het up especially as on Friday she was still 1 oz shy of birth weight despite being 3 weeks old. Got me also feeling like crap mum, can't even provide milk for my baby. Started all sorts of other feelings ... But cut long story short DP and I decide best to express and top up with formula and give breast a miss for now. Felt better for that decision. And today she's put 5 oz on since Friday which is great.

But her sleeping still bad. Think it's wind keeping her awake. We started infacol but I stopped as she started projectile vomiting and thought it was brought on by infacol. But even stopping it didn't stop vomiting and so starting infacol again. But she's been awake since 9 ish... Surely shell need sleep soon??? Have moved to another bed to let DP get sleep. And it's our 2 year anniversary tonight... :( I'm existing on about 3 hours each night and still can't find time to nap in day - by time you've expressed, fed, looked after her, done housework, ate lunch etc it's time step kids home from school so just no chance of naps. And c section area starting to hurt again.
Sorry for moaning just tired and needed to vent.

Baby acne- my LO has pimples on face and was told it was milk rash and will go in time.

Tmi but has anyone else started bleeding more red again after it getting really light? This is about 3 weeks after birth. Hoping trails off again.

Feral and ssmile - must be so difficult trying to cope with two little ones - at least Step kids older altough I spend a lot of time trying to reduce impact of newborn on them

Oh dear sebs sounds like u need some rest. I make myself go lie on bed with Lo at 1.30pm daily, sod the chores we had beans on toast last night as I just couldn't fit in prep dinner! That way I get hrs lie down before school run and mostly I fall asleep with Lo for 20-45min enough to top me up. Yes I re-bleed around 3-4wks do take it easy a sign u doing to much, or mini period? I did that with my first and ended up 9mths Physio and several health problems. Also yes my Lo got vfussy &windy on breast at 4wks, the friend I saw last with Lo also having same prob. Think its just something they do. Hang in there it will settle down sound like you got a gd plan to reduce your stress. It's vhard in early weeks with new baby get as much help as poss in the house and it will get easier. Sleep deprivation is used as form of torture for a reason as its utterly debilitating. Big hugs x

Its not acne but is normal 4 babies 2 get covered in spots. All our lo's have been thru it this lo's r calming down now now, they look less sngry

Thanks all of you for making me feel so much better! Good to know that the acne is clearing for your babe ssmile; hopefully DD will clear too by the time she's 6 weeks-ish.

I would echo ssmile about just having a lie-down, even if you don't sleep. I didn't do day-naps with DS until I was falling-over-tired and then it was surprising how quickly my body clock got used to having a siesta! Plus I found it was a great way to get him into a nice daytime routine as well.

Sebs wrt the wind, have you tried using different bottles? I found Avent ones gave DS wicked wind but Mam ones were much better.

Debs yeah I had the bleeding thing with dd.

Ds seemed to sleep a but better last night. He got lots of sleep during the day and moved him into his crib for night time. Fingers crossed for today.

Jimmi, yeah that extra sleep is amazing. Yesterday morning OH took LO for an hour after he woke before he started work and I slept, was fab. I didn't venture on the September TTC bus as I was trying to have a chilled out TTC month. I started the August tic bus, which was actually the first month of us TTC, and got myself totally obsessed with everything, when to DTD, CM, symptom spotting, I did my head in, so I vowed to take a few months of just chilling with DTD and actually got pg on the second month - which would have been the september thread, but I daren't venture there while TTC.

Minky, we are probably going to church on Sunday with LO, we are going up to where my OH grew up, stopping with his parents and so will go to his childhood church, if we have a decent night's sleep.

CBear, I am sorry I laughed at the no spoon thing too, and your DS just eating it anyway :)

Ssmile, :( for your DD, is she better today?

feral, you have 2 LOs it's hard work no doubt, you will not be being a shitty mother, lots of people feel the same about not giving enough attention to either child, they will both know that you love them.

Re baby acne, the HV came out last week while LO was covered in spots on her face, I asked if it was milk spots and HV looked and said yes, just hormones coming out of their system. If they look red and infected go to docs, but other than that leave them and they will go, apparently the sometimes start on one cheek and then go to the other and back, LO just had them on both cheeks. They are fading now.

I've had the bleeding practically stop and then re start again! DTD started it up again although not while DTD I hasten to add. And with reference to my previous chat about that, we have tried again, used lube, it still hurt, but not enough to stop, but it's not comfy yet, hoping it does stop hurting, I must admit to being worried it will always hurt, but we'll see how it goes next time and if it's still hurting when I'm going for 8week check (yep it's 8 weeks at my surgery) I will ask the doc about it.

LO has taken to sleeping a lot in the day yesterday and so far today. Sunday she was wide awake most of the day, yesterday she slept most of the day and has only been awake for about an hour so far this morning. Mind you she didn't settle till 1am this morning! She did sleep well though after that.

Went to the pub last night, we didn't realise they didn't have a licence for under 18's after 7pm, so we were asked to leave at 8:15! Oops, well it's the first time she's been thrown out of a pub, not bad for a 1month old

Off out tonight without LO, OH's parents are coming round this afternoon and will baby sit this evening so we can go and have a nice meal out. :) I have plenty of milk in the fridge ready for them :) And tomorrow my Mum is looking after LO while I get my hair cut! So I'll have gone from not leaving her with anyone other than OH while I ran and nipped to the shops the other day to leaving her with grandparents. Will be slightly weird, but I feel OK about it. My OH is a bit tired at the moment, I sent him to bed at 10pm last night instead of him staying up with me, good job I did, otherwise he would have been up till 1am with me! I did have an hour after going to the pub where he gave her a bottle and I went and had a snooze on the bed as I knew it would be a late one.

100 think i may have started the sept ttc thread after being on the august 1. Thought i may have recognised ur name from somewhere.
Lo almost 5weeks old, not had 6week check appointment thru yet. If nothing by end next wk will ring surgery.
Any thoughts on contraception? Worried i would forget 2 take the pill with 3kids 2 think about. Had mirena coil b4 , was removed end of november last year after perforating my uterus & getting tangled up with 1 of my fallopian tubes. Had n op under general anasthetic 2 have it removed so def wouldnt get anything like that again!! Has any2 on hre had the injection or anything else? What was it like? I dont like using condoms