CRESH - Crap ham, stinky Brie, gin and lol'ing at birth plan believers

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Heeyah.

Congrats Alp on the blue flavour. I live baybee news. Will you have a 4d scan again?

Wrt divorce. Was total serious conversation. He was not happy as things were and neither was I. Full blown row and heart to heart and couple of days to think it through. Have been miserable tbh and not sure which decision was right for me and the little fella. Have been In a bit of a state and didn't want to tell anyone but needing to talk to someone about it. So have felt bit isolated. Kept feeling sad for MB. We've made amends and things are honestly much better. He needed to hear some home truths. As did I. After all I am far from perfect. Taking each day as it comes.

Hoss news - am still looking for new yard. The one I mentioned on t'other place is too far. Saw one today that is cheap and lovely but too far tho the lady said come on a trial and see! Veh kind of her. Got two more to see this weekend. One sounds perfect but it's more expensive that than the further away one but it's 5mins car drive away. So it's no drama to pop there or if I get a last min pass to ride I can be there and tacked up quickly! Fingers xd!!!

mac and box our moments usually involve a cuddle which is really an incoming bite cleverly masked as a hug avec smile.

*live = LOVE. Fecking fone feck.

Oh Silv, that sounds rough. Hope you can get through this and do what's right for you. Have the two of you considered counselling maybe? Might help sort stuff out if you think it's needed.

Good luck with the hoss stuff too, hope you find something good.

Congrates on the blue flavour pone how did no1 son react to getting a wee brother?

teef already loz? That's pretty early! How did Bugboy take it? Are you noticing any changes in his sleeping? Sprout has gone from 1 night waking to about 5 or 6!!

silvs that all sounds serious :-( and very sad. I hope you can get through it, that is if you want to? Councelling might be worth a try as muse said. Even if you still end up splitting you might be able to salvage your friendship and make things easier on MB in the long run.

How's the back FP? any improvement?

I know I've been having a big whinge on tother place already but was wondering what everyone's experiences of the 4 month sleep regression were? In terms if how much things changed, what you did and how long before things improved (if they did!) we've been hit hard with it this end and you know how misery loves company!

Thanks everyone, I am thrilled to bits! Could not have wished for a happier result. :)

rocket haven't really told bear, he won't have any concept of it right now, he'll figure it out when I get bigger and/or he sees him. As for 4 month sleep regression, strange concept and is unknown on these shores. Although we do things differently.

Of course i guess he's a bit to young for the concept yet. I thought this 4 month thing was a universal truth! Lucky you to not have experienced it!

rocket sleep here went really shit for about 6 weeks around the 4 month sleep regression. I kept thinking about doing something different but never had the energy so just kept feeding her every time she woke. She eventually settled into an 11pm and 3am feed.

I don't really want to recommend the "wait it out" approach as I know how close I came to completely breaking down. But it did pass for us.

okie that's scary shit! Too bloody right they waived the bill but pretty understandable they didn't tell you. They would probably have to get a loan to pay for the gin alone. Poor miniokes though.

muse I'll be honest though I'm not sure what I could actually do to change things. Managed a nap this avo so feel a bit better for that. just need to keep a lid on the self indulgent self flagellating that tends to come with lack of sleep round these parts.

You know this sleep thing get me. If I get 6 hrs sleep a night I am happy (ish). Usually sleep is interupted either by a child or a snoring husband. Mini is nearly 3 and peppa is 10 months and we still have nights when one of them (usually mini) is wailing for no apparent reason. I have just got used to it. But it has been for over 3 years as while pregnant my sleep was shite too.

Where is gin and Poltits?

poltits wakes up every day and feels a little fresher.

okie Took delivery of the p&t last night and it is fucking awesome - I think I'm in lurrrrve. It is without a doubt the smallest double I've seen and I absolutely adore the "coccoon" concept. I am going to walk the boys miles with this. It's even got a cup holder for my coffee.

PS cokie We need hotel pics please - and I'm glad mini-okes is OK but what a scary time!

cokecity glad mini is ok! That's not scary is it? sheesh! Least the hotel were decent about it and didn't try and do the "not our fault" number.

ESHfest would be good. HI working and we have plans for the Sunday which I can't miss. I think it would be v v difficult for me to make as got too much to juggle eg hoss care etc etc.

casp how are your Marion sessions?

rock counselling would be good. HI never around due to work so keeping appts would be difficult. I think it would be good for him to hear an outsiders perspective. Totally open to criticism about me. I can take it like a grown up. Not sure he could. That's his problem to deal with.

Men! GAH!!!!! Or should I say my man! GAH!!!!!!

Alps is it the P&T with a sort of bag to put the baby in? I love those bags. It makes me think someone is carrying a baby in with their gym kit. And they must be comfy as there's a few who come to my pilates class with them and their babies are always asleep and stay asleep through the class. That never happened with me!

Don't know what to say Sky, tis bollocks. Is it too early for wine and ranting?

Yo hags. Sorry for not being around, I feel like I've been chasing my tail for the last month. College is brilliant (despite lack of fit freshers, sorry Alps). It was v intense to start - three days a week, which meant I didn't see the girls from Sunday night until Thurs. BB seems ok about that, but Boo has got increasingly upset about it, especially this week when I got home late on Weds night, and then worked both Thurs and Fri nights. She was not impressed. I have not been around to do bath/bedtime routine for a week. College is not the problem so much, it is more the two jobs, so I have given notice on the Sainsbo's one. Much as we will miss the discount (may have to start shopping in Asda) I need about two extra days in the week as I haven't yet managed to do ANY college work at home. Not good. Still, at least college goes down to two days a week now, and I've only got two more weeks until I get a month long half term! Oh yes, and when you come for ESHfest, be prepared for me to be taking pulses, looking at tongues and drawing all the points up your arms and legs. But I have water soluble pens especially for this purpose, so it is ok.

Anyway, we are having our first family day in three weeks, we are off to the beach to see my parents and to enjoy the last of the summer sunshine (probably).

Has anyone been in Gap lately? Mahoosive 50% sale on. I spunked my student loan in there. Ooops. thank god for free student overdrafts.

Great news on the boy flava and the P&T Alps. Okie that must have been bloody scary, poor miniOkes. Great news on the almost-free-holiday though!

Sprocket bummer on the four month sleep regression. If it helps at all, BB's only lasted about 2 weeks (not sure how long you've been suffering this, so it may not help, sorry!). And the 8 month one didn't really register so it couldn't have been as bad.

fanny so sorry to hear of the bad back, how are you feeling now? I hope the move goes well. I bet you can't wait to get in there! It looks so gorgeous.

silv sorry to hear of crap man woes. He is not alone unfortunately. Counselling sounds like it would do him good. Maybe if he realised how bad you feel he might find time?

Box how is the extension coming along? Is LG in his own room yet? And do you actually have a date for return to work yet?

I have to say that TG and I are getting on much better now I only see him for half a week. He has really missed me, and now feels like he is 'seeing' me again properly. You know when you just get used to someone being there and you don't see them properly? Well that is what he says anyway.

Must go and get showered. Laterz biaatches.

Cheers titsmcgee it's been full on for a week although had a few random funny nights in the 2 weeks preceding. If I get away with just 2 weeks of this then I'll be very VERY grateful. But I'm trying not to get my hopes up and think its best to take it one day at a time! That said, she has 3 more weeks to sort her shit out or I will be most unamused about possible implications for ESHfest. Glad you are enjoying college and TG is appreciating you more (how vey DARE he take you for granted in the first place)

silvs doesn't HI need to take a bloody long look at his priorities really? He needs to MAKE time for appointments. I know what its like with work pressure and providing for a family etc but when that family might fall apart whats the POINT? Men GAH indeed!

alps P&T sounds lush, and you sounds v excited. It's quite (dare i say it) cute!

Sorry for CAPS over usage, I am feeling EMPHATIC.

also I can't believe how long it took me to get the fresher joke.

Have been to see friend of OH's today with newborn baby. I'm sure I never gave birth to anything that small - turns out he weighed as much as TT did, but I could have sworn he was half the size. Twas very amusing watching the mother's face as LG tore round her living room doing things like posting her TV remote into a big silver vase. A taste of things to come for her.

Okes Day 2 of the holiday sounds a nightmare. Glad the rest of it was good.

Silv what everyone else says - men sometimes need someone impartial to hear things and then point out how they could do things differently to make life easier for everyone.

Pol extension is so nearly done - the staircase and kitchen arrive this week, and the bathroom will also be finished this week. LG's room carpet is being fitted on Monday and he can move in on Monday night! The following week we will get the downstairs electrics finished (upstairs are already on,) the kitchen worktops fitted, and little finishing off jobs. And then we will be in. At bloody last! Wasn't it supposed to be finished in July?

I go back to work tomorrow. Holy fucking shit - that's tomorrow!

Break a leg for your first day back box oh wait. :D

Alps I love the baby in the bag concept. Peppa liked it until about 12/13 weeks then wailed when put into the lie flat bit so I popped her in the double seat but she was a chunky monkey so could handle it. We stayed here and it was ace. We even had the Exec. Head Chef cooking mini Oke his tea (fish fingers and chips etc made with wheat free breadcrumbs) and he would come and meet us before each meal to check what he was eating so we had the best of service after our little trauma.

Box enjoy your first day back! Be careful of banana skins left on the floor and other similar trip hazzards between now and then!

Pol sounds like you are enjoying student life.. when do you start clubbing and staying out all night, in bed all day and generally being more scummy.

silv I'm so very sorry to hear you're in dire straights, I really am. :( Is it all currently exacerbated by your return to work or is this the result of "absent man" in general? And no, relationships are not easy once children are on the scene that's for sure. Makes you wonder about the logic of band-aid babies.

muser/okie Yes, it's the bag one, it's sooooo tiny though - I'd better not have a whopper. That's amazing about them being lifted in/out - although dare I say it? We never had any problems lifting Bear in or out of his pram anyway. Once asleep (when he was teeny-tiny), he stayed asleep. We gave it a trial run yesterday at a horse show walking the cross-country course and it fared very well, so it's a win - and it folds up to be very little bigger than the quinny so we're very impressed. A lot easier to fold & change around than the Quinny too.

pols JB got some lovely stuff in Baby Gap the other week - and they are the bee's knees for toddler socks imo. They also seem to run a great line in long-sleeved bodies which are really cute.

Have a wonderful day back today box - you're going to love it and the application of your brain! :)

okie What a lovely place!

pol I'm sorry the girls have had a rough few weeks but it sounds as though your schedule is now easing - and yes, give up the job - you can't do everything. Who's been running the show the last few weeks? TG?

I think when someone is not around much, you get used to it and you adapt. I am talking years not a recent thing. We have a great phone relationship as we spend a lot of time on it but get us in a room together and it's hard to get a conversation going!

We've had a massive chat and we are both going the extra mile. Of course old habits die hard. I'm not sure a leopard can change it's spots. Plus HI is keen to start TTC which I can't even get my bead round at the moment!!! A good example of how men and women are very different.

box enjoy today!!

titters college sounds just what the doctor ordered??

Sorry all, not properly caught up. Things are a wee bit tense/crap. Work suddenly flat out, we're almost definitely going to move house, no marge sessions for the last few weeks (not our choice/fault), I had a meltdown while doing Marge stuff at home last night and so on and so forth.

So I'm not ignoring ought, just not on here much. Good luck for work box. Glad college is so good tits>

Poor silv. Thanks for asking re sessions. (answered above) if you want to ask anything about our counselling, please FB/mail. Hope things look up for you.

Silv I really hope you can work things out.

After a shaky start today has ended up possibly being one of the happiest days of my life. Jb has agreed to us getting a cleaner maybe twice a week. His previous reticence stemmed from the fact he thought you could only get full time live in maids. Wtff?

Alps ahahahahahahaha at full time maid! Cleaners are the biz, but ours is (a) struggling the crap hole we call home atm, 3 shrunken rooms for all four of us as the extension seems to have destroyed all the other rooms in the house before it gets better again, and (b) is someone I know well and kind of accidently became our cleaner and now I am a bit embarrassed to point out that she has missed bits again. Once we have the extension finished I will have to have a bit of a review with her, I think.

And today, I have been well and truly back in my box. In a tiny little room with only an ancient computer for company. I've tried to have a little look around t'internet for a video as old as the one I had to watch today, with el capitan complete with big gold aviators and sideboards, but sadly the naffest training video on the planet only exists in my little box at work. Still, was nice to be back at work - everyone else doing my course atm has broken their leg at some point too, including one who did it tripping over his own foot at work. Probably for the best that he wasn't allowed to fly anything! Everyone else needed at least 5 months off, so I'm feeling rather pleased with my 14 weeks off. Obviously I would have maybe spent a bit more time sitting on my arse taking the piss rehabilitating if Christmas wasn't on the horizon. But there we go.

When I got back in I walked through the door saying 'hello, I'm back!' The nanny smiled at me and asked me if I had a nice day, TT carried on watching the TV and LG looked up at me briefly, grunted, and went back to trying to fish out whatever it is he had under the sofa. Nice. Still, at least they're not pining for me.