CRESH - Crap ham, stinky Brie, gin and lol'ing at birth plan believers

[AlpinePony]

Heeyah.

Hello 'ESHes

I am making a fleeting visit - I have decided to brave starting a thread on how the hell to stop BF without misery and trauma, and thought it would be rude not to drop by for a gin.

Don't know why am bothering - feel sure I can guess the answers will range from 'just swap for a bottle' (like I haven't tried that) and 'why stop now - WHO recommends carrying on until 2' (gimme a break...) - but if any of you lovely lot have tips, please share.

Anyway - slaps all round.

'Lo all.
Is a month post-birth too long for PESH-CRESH transfer? I have cheese y'know.
I haven't even read the fred. It was read or post, so I'll catch up quietly at some point.

Results of my current research: Sleep deprivation isn't as bad 2nd time round and newborns are piss easy compared to 3-yr-olds. Trufax.

Welcome Macaroonie . I concur with your research. Today I was wondering whether the jump from 2 to 3 would be easier or harder than the jump from 1 to 2. I was just wondering.

Iggs nice to see you around these parts. You are missed you know. I don't have a miracle answer to your question though but I will watch with interest as I see I may end up having the same issue. Peppa dislikes her bedtime bottle of formula. I get about 4oz into her at a push and then top her up with a boob or 2. I mean, I thought you were supposed to top up breast with bottle? Have decided to keep on feeding until we get back from hols and wean off before I return to work November. So, please to send link to your question so I can offer support etc.

iggy the bottle isn't for the baybee. It's Bombay sapphire and it's for you. Drink as much as is necessary. Hth.

Speaking of gin; affectionados, have you ever made slow gin? What's your surefire method? I'm coming over all 'jams and preserves' which is an unexpected symptom.

okie are you going for 3? I told friends sat night we were. Sunday night JB said 2 is enough. Am considering getting my tubes tied this time they open me up.

Okie this is it Iggy's BF Stop Fail

I think the actual answer will be that I have to keep trying with bottle/ cup of formula and not offer breast at all so that she can have bedtime drink. But refusing her a feed when she asks breaks my heart. Also, cows milk is going down very badly! She spits it out...

alps The BS is going down a treat... will move onto hendricks. 3 is brave... the idea of 2 spooks me..

iggyyyyyyyyyyyyy how lovely to see you here!!!

I will go off and look at your over fred, but in the mean time, can I just say; BUMSEX!!!!!

BUMSEX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where's poo when you need her?!

just dashing in to say to pone lb damsons/sloes + 5/6oz sugar for each 75 cl bottle of gin. (x3 in my case :o) taste it in about 3 months time and decided if it needs more sugar (or gin) I am super excited about it because this year I will not be pregnant and therefore will not have to give it all away for Xmas. I think my F&F are going to be rather disappointed on xmas day :D

sorry haven't caught up on rest of thread as should have left house 15 minutes ago! hope all well. laterz biatchs

igster how jolly nice to see you!!!!!!

The settling in session went well. I walked in to find an older child poking MB in the eye with a spoon. Reports from his key worker basically that he's a happy smiley chap who is no trouble. Hopefully that doesn't mean he'll be left in a corner and ignored.

I went shopping and had a coffee with my SIL which was good as the other option was housework. Still need shoes and a few other bits before heading back to work but got a few days yet.

Felt bit sad leaving him but once I got my shopping brain on I was easily distracted.

alps I bought reduced sugar and salt baked beans for MB so he can have those with shop bought fishcakes tomorrow. What kind of chips do you give? Homemade?

Question for those who have sprogs at nursery : if they have all their meals there what do you feed when you get home? I was thinking a yoghurt and a banana or summat?

Oh and what is it with attitude from the other mum's collecting at the nursery? GAH!!

What time do they give food? Artie has his tea at 5/5.30 at the CM so I don?t give anything else. I know at some nurseries they give tea at about 4 so I think my friends tend to give something snacky like toast or banana or whatever at 6ish.

what attitude??

Silv we always pick him up early so dinner at home. Other mums? As for chips, just common or garden oven or fried so far. Although he has had McDonald's but I worry about salt. He has chips twice a month maybe, never refused yet! Also found beans a big success. :) I don't think the 'nice' children get ignored, I think you're over-thinking and of course they're going to say nice things about him - they need to make you feel comforted too!

Thanks rocket, I've spotted my sloe bush, just need to harvest.

silver Squeaks has dinner at nursery, comes home after 5.30 and starts on her bedtime bottle at 6. No food unless we really have to, and we'll chuck a breadstick her way. When she's at home, she gets all her meals a bit later.

alps I was also about the fruit wines and preserves last autumn. Damson rum would have been better if filtered. Chilli vodka is lethal. I loved doing sweet chilli jam and damson jam.

p.s. Those reduced salt and sugar beans are completely flavourless. i ended up making my own with cannelini beans, tins of tomatoes and a few spices/veggies etc. She loved them. But she also loves chips, and tomatoey pasta from tins. Bad mummy!

My car was blocked in and I asked someone if it was their's and they seemed narked cos it wasn't their car. Whatever.

Tea is at 330! I'm giving him fruit bread and a yoghurt now. On my days will I be able to give tea at normal time or will he be screaming blue murder by 330?

MB has had a bit of my BK whopper. Tis 100% beef you know.

I've never tried sloe gin. I'm sure I'd like it. Lots of hunting gals are fans.

Actually perhaps the fruit bread on it's own is enough???

I was thinking when can you start giving spaghetti hoops or beans and franks from a tin??

Smallboo has his tea at 3.30 on a nursery day (since he was 10 months), and he was always fine with having food at 'normal' times on days at home.

It took ages before I got chatty with the other Mums, but I think sometimes people are grumpy because they've just finished work - I always get narked when Smallboo prats about and won't get in the car when I JUST WANT TO GO HOME. As he did tonight in fact.

Oh and yes we used to sit him at the table with us and let him have a few things on plate so he could be sociable. He won't have none of it now though, he likes to have the TV to himself :o.

we've just started trying to have family dinners at 6 if we are home. On a nursery day we just eat after she goes to bed at 7. silv, if you spread out his meals and snacks, he'll eat when it suits you at home - after all, he can't tell the time! Squeaks sleeps more at home than at nursery, so she has a very different routine with us. She only slept for 40 mins at nursery today, and ended up in bed by 6.30pm - out like a light.

I'm sorry to be all me me me, I've not caught up or owt, but can I just ask something? If you said to your 'DH'/partner 'I'm sorry I'm such a shit post-natally-depressed nightmare of a wife'. Would your beloved answer 'It is ok, don't worry about it'?

Tricky Polly, I think it would depend on how I said it and what sort of reply he assumed I wanted. He might say something like that but I'd hope if my mood was black he wouldn't.

Not sure that reply makes any sense.

Oh pol :( I had a freak out on sunday morning (was sleep deprived) and we had a bit of a row and i almost refused to go to PIL 40th anniversary celebrations. I apologised later that day and he said 'its ok, salad, i've seen you in a much worse state' :( I really think they think they are saying the right thing. (short answer is 'yes, probably')

pols I asked him directly - if I said this to you one day what would you say? He thought carefully then in his most caring empathetic voice, patted me on the arm and replied 'It's OK.'

So it seems that is the standard male response. I screamed No, no no! at him but he said, 'I'm still not sure what I was supposed to say.'

It's like a conversation that goes...
Female: I'm sorry I'm so fat and ugly
Male: It's OK

You lot make me feel better! Especially Fans & MrPrice. At least TG is not on his own... you would think though, that after spending a weekend with a weeping wife who wants to run away, he might chose his words a leetle bit more carefully. No? Maybe I just expect too much....

Funny you should mention sloe gin pone, I am enjoying last years efforts tonight and it is going down very well. I went through a baking/jam making/chutney making/sloe gin making phase while diffed with BB. Soon wore off though, don't worry.

My acupuncturist told me today that I should delay my course for a year, given my mental health (or lack of) and general stress levels. It is not the course that is stressing me out as such, it is the 'how the fuck am I going to fit in a full time degree, two chlldren (one of whom does not sleep properly) and two part time jobs?' I really really really don't want to give up the course, as the thought of it has kept me going through the worse parts of this year but she may have a point. Meh.

I am going to get an appointment at the docs for higher strength or different tablets as I feel I have regressed. I have been a right menkul case of late.

Oh yes..... BUMSEX!!!!