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April 2011 - cake-offing, gin-guzzling, wine-sipping, dreams of sleeping

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fraktious · 21/07/2011 10:01

Thread 3!!!

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architien · 22/07/2011 14:13

Goodness I hadn't refreshed since 7am and my message has been sitting unposted due to running about for the short folk. Sorry if it appears a bit strange. It's just a delay in posting!

Cyclebump · 22/07/2011 14:29

Ha! I'm way more rubbish than you Arch, I only have one baby and the house is a tip.

Sorry Jode, didn't see you there, welcome! H is also a giggle, smile and pull at the boob baby.

Thanks for the advice people, will keep an eye on H's cold but leave the doctor visit unless he looks like it's making him unhappy.

We had an adventure today, I walked for an hour and a half down the canal to Brentford. H was napping and I was lost in iPod land. Had to hotfoot it to a Maccy D's then a local park to feed H before bussing home. Am knackered.

LisMcA · 22/07/2011 14:51

Oh god, bloody hormones, I've jst spent the last half an hour crying because B giggled!

Iwas feeling bit shit beofre hand though. I'm trying to arange a spa day thingy with friends for my B'day and after most people saying yes, there is only going to be 3 of us now :( I feel like billy no mates :( Even my best friend is saying she can't take the day off work, yet I read on her FB today shes away with other friends today for a girly weekend. She said she'd been keeping the Saturday free for us to do something, but thats when we are seeing my family. argh! It's so difficult to arrange stuff.

Sorry for the self indulgent post, but being nearly 30 isn't much fun right now.

architien · 22/07/2011 15:18

That's wonderful Lis such a memorable moment :)

You're not being self indulgent. I remember turning 30 (a year and a half ago) and being a bit quiet about it. On the friends front i found that after having F that folk had to get used to me having different priorities and as time goes on you gather more mummy friends. It'll pick up.

architien · 22/07/2011 15:23

Sounds wonderful cycle

Hello Jode don't worry you've not over shared on this thread. We all seem quite open and honest most of the time :)

caramellokoalalover · 22/07/2011 15:26

I need to move to Hull with nursery fees like that. The one I like for DS is £70/day part time I think (Nth bloody London). Hence why he's not in nursery!

Love the title Frak! I'm thinking as I have been awake since 4am, due to dear children playing wake-up tag, then 3pm is really adjusted to 6pm and I could have a G&T now? Wink

Jen love your dummy trick. S has one in the day that she wrestles in and out of her mouth whilst trying to also suck on both her fists. I'll be using your trick when the time comes.

Aussie don't stress about the flight to Oz with a baby. When it gets closer to the time PM me and I can dish out the tips I know. It really wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.

Welcome Jode!

On the sling front we have a Baby Bjorn that DH prefers on the odd occasion he slings S. I use my Kari Me most days but also have a Calin Bleu for warmer days and suspect I may use it more as S gets bigger as it's more supportive. Those with Kari Me's, what do you do with their head for support? I must be doing something wrong as when I bend down I have to hold S's head so it doesn't fall back. Am I missing a trick?

fraktious · 22/07/2011 17:06

3pm is 6pm my time therefore it's allowed Grin

How are you wrapping with the Kari-me, caramello? I usually just pull one of the bit which goes over my shoulder round to make a cradle.

We mastered the hands free boob carry today, aka the cross cradle Grin and we backwrapped Grin Grin. DS got fed up when I tried a kangaroo carry though. He's so cute when he sees the wrap, he gets all smiley and babble and waves.

I'm sure you'll have a fab time with whoever can come and see the others another day. It'll be like stringing your birthday out for longer!

arch I hate the housework bit of being a SAHM. Baby on boob is perfectly acceptable and F must have been fine or he'd have come and shaken you awake Grin Stamping on the wall uninterrupted sounds like a toddler's idea of heaven!

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Alibabaandthe80nappies · 22/07/2011 17:24

Bloody hell is it time for gin yet? Trying to potty train ds1 - 2 accidents so far today. T is teething and will not stop screaming. House is a tip, kitchen is full of half-made birthday cakes, I have a load of people coming on Sunday for a BBQ that I have done no prep for and DH and I have just had a huge row because he is being reactive and not proactive about an issue with his new job.

Raaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhh Angry

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 22/07/2011 17:27

Hugs and wine all round to those that require.

Hello Jode Smile

architien · 22/07/2011 17:40

Ali I'm trying to potty train F just now. We have accidents too. How are you doing it? I'm sorry if this seems clueless but I'm genuinely interested in how others cope with two young children. I'm braving some bare bum time for F each afternoon with really close approximation to the potty when I put on a cartoon (tinga tinga/ chuggington/ grandpa in my pocket whatever is on when i get a chance to sit with him), he gets sat on the potty when i go to the loo, sat on the potty first and last thing in the day and we ask his teddy if he needs the potty so a bit of role play too. In short F isn't getting it and I've been at this for a little while now. He has not graduated to wearing pants but is in the easy ups. I share your frustration. On the DH front it looks like they have shelved the redundancy idea for the next 3 months as they couldn't work out yet if it would genuinely assist in the business or if they would lose clients. DH has promised to up the job hunt and widen his search.

architien · 22/07/2011 17:52

*proximity honestly I'm just too tired

caramellokoalalover · 22/07/2011 18:01

Is definitely gin o'clock now. Yay!

Frak I think I'm doing a classic front carry. If I put one of the shoulder straps over S's head she gets grumpy if she's awake that her head is clamped to me and she can't look about. Also I worry about her suffocating if she's facing into my armpit. Is that possible?

Ali and Arch wtf are we doing toilet training our toddlers now? I feel insane for attempting this in my current sleep-deprived state but DS is very cunning and has realised that potty time means getting my attention and so he has declared he doesn't want to wear nappies anymore. I don't want to discourage him or miss the window or whatever but it's a damn shame he can't actually use the potty though Hmm. Lost count of number of wees wiped up today, but one poo. Grim doesn't come close to describing it. No wonder we need gin and wine.

Some brilliant person on here (who was wise to potty train pre-new-baby) - ILTMIMI maybe? - recommended this book Arch if you want tips.

Right I'm off to find some of that said gin...

fraktious · 22/07/2011 18:05

Is she upright with the across bit coming up to her neck? I just tuck his head in before I need to bend and fee him when I straighten. Or tuck his head in when he sleeps.

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architien · 22/07/2011 18:09

Caramel I was trying to potty train unsuccessfully back then too :(

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 22/07/2011 18:12

arch I haven't a clue quite honestly. My Mum keeps saying 'well you just have to persevere', which is all very well!
Today we have decided to remove nappies altogether (he is in pull ups too) and he has been wearing just a t-shirt. We have had 3 successful wees on the potty, one in the loo but no poos. I've still been putting him in a pull-up to eat his meals because that is just one step too far I think. The main problem seems to be that he just gets so engrossed when he is playing, that he does a wee without realising! I am having to remind him every few minutes, and we've had the TV on all day so that he can sit on the potty in front of it.
We've got my parents coming tomorrow and then more family on Sunday. I'm going to keep the nappies off certainly for tomorrow, my parents are really good and helping and encouraging him with going to the loo and I need to make some progress on a weekend day with others around so that I'm not trying to BF and wipe up wee at the same time!!

I have gin now, and DH and I have made friends so things are looking better Grin

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 22/07/2011 18:14

Meant to say - that is really good news about your DH's job. At least it gives you a bit of breathing space to make a plan and hopefully he can find a new job. What does he do? Don't answer if that is too nosey or will out you :)

MrsWajs · 22/07/2011 18:15

Arch I'm not sure if this will be helpful or not but I know DSS took a long time to toilet train. And the general consensus with him was that at the beginning when he really wasn't getting it was just to put it on hold for a few weeks and then try again. Saves you and them gettng too stressed. He is 3 and a half now and is more or less sorted through the day but we still haven't mastered night times yet. I believe boys can be a bit slower too?

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 22/07/2011 18:59

Frakk - many thanks for the offer of the diddymos, I would normally bite your hand off at the offer, but my parents have said they'll buy me a shiny new one.

I'm not sure if I'm the person to give potty training advice as it has taken ds seemingly ages to train. I've read about different methods and they all seem to contradict each other, some say success can be attributed to the child's desire to potty train, others say it's a maturity thing.

I let ds run around without pants and put him on the potty every 30 mins. For the first few days there were lots of accidents, but I looked for the positive and saw each success as a step forward,rather than each miss as a failure. It was very hit and miss to start with, but I never used pull ups, either pants or nothing around the house, so when he started to identify the urge he took himself to the potty.

It seemed that every thing I read it mentioned that go cold turkey and they will be dry within a week. I'm not convinced about that, every now and then ds still has accidents and we started training probably nearly six months ago. He just gets too involved in what he is doing.

Ds wouldn't poo in his potty for probably the first month, he mostly poo'd in his nappy in the morning when he got up. He didn't poo that early before so we knew he had some sort of awareness of pooing because he was consciously doing it before his nappy was taken off. We got there eventually by explaining about pushing a poo out in the potty then flushing it away to poo land!

So, after much blethering, I would say being consistent and keep plugging away at it was what worked for us. You have to remember that you are having to completely retrain them and the way they think about pooing and weeing. Because we put nappies on them they don't even have to think about it. Maybe a good analogy would be someone telling you to use your cutlery in the wrong hands. The way you hold your cutlery is something that is a complete habit and something you no longer even think about, so if you had to change the hands you use your knife and fork in you would have quite a few 'accidents' until you completely retrained your brain and habit.

Being dry when asleep is something totally different. Being able to do it is to do with a hormone that the body produces and for some children it's later than others. I don't know much about it, but it's a hormone that stops the body making urine when asleep.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 22/07/2011 18:59

Oh, and potty training has to be the most fucking frustrating bit of parenting I have tackled so far, sorry!

JustKeepSwimming · 22/07/2011 20:29

re potty training - with DS1 i waited until he was ready, despite pressure from all sides. he was nearly 4. but he did it very quickly then with very few accidents.
Though he did the 'too busy playing' ones for a while, think that's a common boy thing.
DS2 has SN so who knows what he'll do, though his pre-sch have been sitting him on the toilet so we'll follow them i think. with some nappy free time over the 'summer' Hmm

re carrying - i have a variety of slings & carriers.
was using my band of material with no ring, but like a ring sling... but M seemed to get too big to fit in it, esp in the lying down position.
I have started using my baby bjorn though i totally agree with Frak, but only use it facing me and she is a big girl. Have a ring sling i could never quite get the ring in the right place.
also have a moby wrap but i found it far too hot, just think about all that material tightly wrapped around you, then add a hot water bottle baby and i just sweat buckets.
have a wilkinet but never got on with that either.

M has had 2 more good nights, not as good as before but 7ish-5ish then asleep again until 8 or 9am. And she had a mega-nap this afternoon, he fave place for daytimes seems to be in our bed. which is fine until she manages the full roll - she can go halfway so far.

JustKeepSwimming · 22/07/2011 20:29

oh and jode welcome :)

ecuse · 22/07/2011 21:16

Ok so I love my Moby wrap but totally agree with jks - in the heat it's like having a hot water bottle strapped to your chest then putting a cardie on! Been meaning to research it but what's the consensus on a good cool wrap that works for summer? J is 12 weeks and weighs just under 12lbs....

BuckminsterFullerene · 22/07/2011 21:35

Ooh, thanks for all the sling chat! Keep it coming!

Sorry to hear about people having a tough day. I'm going to assume the ostritch position regarding potty training. I've got a couple of years to work that one out!

I took F into work today, he saved the screaming till we got home was brilliant! I tried giving him a bottle of expressed milk, and he had about 160ml! He's always been a bit rubbish with the bottle (especially with DH), and I had no idea how much he'd have, so I was gobsmacked when it kept on going down!

My new issue-du-jour (bored of obsessing over sleeping now!) is worrying about how I'm going to keep him on just breast milk when I go back: finding time to express, etc. I've started a thread in the breast & bottle feeding section. Hopefully other teachers will tell me obvious imaginative strategies they've come up with. (Interesting document here, if you're interested)

DH is away till sunday at a 24 hour mountain bike race (nutter). So I have to feed myself. Now, I can cook, but what's the point if it's just me? And it's just taken 3 hours to get F to bed. Shall I make a nice sandwich, or toast, or coco pops?!

LisMcA · 22/07/2011 22:56

All 3 Buck!! :o And in the spirit of the new thread Wine

Liv77 · 23/07/2011 01:21

A new thread and already over 70 messages to catch up on, good title Frak. Welcome to the Aprilites Jode although technically speaking I should have moved to the March thread as DD was a few days early on 31st March but as everyone is so nice here, I didn't want to leave Smile

It was me who recommended the potty training book thanks for the brillant quote Grin caramel. I like recommending books, it reminds me of my day job.

I did read the book and it's got some good tips, the main one being don't do it before they're ready and how to tell when they are. I started training DS just short of his 3rd birthday and took the lazy easy option of training by using pull-ups, and taking him to the loo before bed and then gradually introducing it in the day every couple of hours. He also wasn't interested in his potty and went straight to a toilet trainer seat. Once he was used to the idea of going to the toilet I changed it to proper pants at home and pull-ups when out and then gradually changed to proper pants all the time.

I know some people don't recommend pull-ups as they say it can cause confusion as it still feels like a nappy but DS didn't have any problems and knew the difference between the two although he was slightly older than some and we didn't use pull-up type nappies before toilet-training.

He also wasn't interested in a potty and went straight to a toilet trainer seat. I'd recommend this travel potty/toilet seat though, it's been a life saver on several occassions, why only last week DS used it for a lovely open air poo in the park. I havn't attempted the nighttime training yet, that fun is yet to come Hmm

P is 16 weeks now, took her and DS along to baby clinic this morning and she weighs 10lbs 15. Slightly down on her curve but still hovering bwtween 2nd and 9th centile. Not sure what to make of another different HV I saw today. She seemed quite Shock that I was BF. And actually said "oh are you breastfeeding" in a questioning tone. Before she could give me the lecture on giving top-ups to increase weight gain I blathered on about how P is BF with 2 top ups of FF, generally sleeps through and is basically a happy contented baby. All she wrote in my notes was Satisfactory, reminded me of a school report and I was half expecting a "could do better" written after it. Grin.

I was chatting to a friend of mine who has 2 DD and she's currently BF her 4mo DD2 who also gets the underweight talk from HV's all the time. (Her DD is already in 6-9m clothes and pretty long and chunky). She said if she ever has another baby she'll BF but tell the HV she's formula feeding and they'll probably tell her she's feeding the baby too much Grin