Just mumming (viroids 1)

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So we don't scare the viroids on the antenatal thread with horror stories of no sleep, chomped boobs and endless laundry or make them envious with tales of cuteness....

BamBam is (well was last time I looked a few days ago) due. Crowette joined then sadly left the grad thread, Miffles (princessfruitthatchangeswithherbumpsize) is about half way now. and Frak has left us to go back the the JSing thread!!!

Discovered another toof coming through tonight. It still has a few days of cutting gum, so I predict a few bad nights over the weekend.

Hats off to Frak. Took DS to be weighed today and got majorly broody looking at all the newborns

DS then screamed for 1.5 hours and I am still broody....blimey.

BamBam has produced a boy - Daniel, on wednesday.
she'll be here soon.

DD is getting all fidgetty during feeds again - driving me mad!
She was just on now, pulling away and looking up at the wall behind me!
i hope it stops soon, cos it bloomin hurts!
but she fed for nearly 2 hours solid last night - one hour on the left then the rest on the right.
my boobs are empty and still she asks for more...

Congrats to Bam Bam! Look forward to hearing the details and hope it was stress free x

Woohoo. New baby!!

HELP!! Totally moment.

DS has gone to bed AND slept through his 30min witching moment. So when he sounded like he was stirring a bit at an hour I nearly said to DH to leave him for a few minutes until he sounded like he wouldn't settle himself. A few seconds later I thought 'sod it' chances are he will go back to sleep quickly if we go to him now. So we both went....

We have had the builders round who saw it fit to crank up the heating and not turn it down...house is a furnace so didn't put DS in sleepsack...this is relevant, bear with me! Put him to bed feet to foot, on his back etc....

Find him at the head of the bed, on his front with his head pointing towards the foot of the bed, still half asleep as grissling because he had forgotten how to turn back

Any tips on preventing this?! It's still 24 degrees in there so sleep sack looks unlikely tonight.

Not sure. Ds travels all over his crib at night whilst in his sleeping bag. Maybe place him foot to foot, on his back and use a very thin sheet to pin him down tuck him in. If it is above 20 degrees a long sleeved vest or sleepsuit with no feet should be enough to sleep in.

Thanks. He doesn't normally go anywhere in the sleep sack. At nap time he does end up horizontal

Watching last night's Wonderland about becoming parenting from a Dad's perspective. It's really good! DH was actually going to do it but DS had been born by the time the producers got in touch! It is doing nothing to cure the broodyness...!

Not tried it myself as dd has only just migrated from crib to cot and has been pretty stationary so for, but friends say they pin their dc into bed with a sheet tucked fairly tightly over baby and under mattress so that they can't get too far. Might that work for your DS?

After a horrendous day yesterday we had a much calmer day here. I took dd to a local garden centre which has a fab (and free) small animal park with exotic breeds of chicken and ducks roaming free, large rabbits, and quite a menagerie of common and unusual animals. Dd thought it was wonderful! She actually giggled at the meerkats, and waved her arms and legs about non stop all the way round. She was so tired afterwards that she fell asleep in the car seat before we'd even left the car park. It's lovely that I can actually do things with her now rather than just trying to head off the next round of screams!

I have had a really rubbish Friday night and today has almost had tears from me. Had a really good, but tiring week. Dh comes back from working away and announces he has finally read the no cry sleep solutions book. Then decides to tell me which parts he has highlighted for us to try.

I don't mind input but I have read the book and don't need it quoted at me and I am already doing some of the things he suggested. He wants to be able to put ds down for a sleep, but I think it's a little unfair as ds will get used to it and then dh will be away again. Anyway, I know we need to try something as he is only napping when I take him for a walk at the moment or feeding him to sleep. Just don't appreciate being project managed

I am also considering switching to formula. I loved co-sleeping and feeding ds during the night, but he is hardly feeding during the day anymore and I'm finding the expressing for the 7pm feed exhausting. I don't expect it to make him sleep better, but I will feel more confident about trying to get him back to sleep if I know he isn't hungry.

I feel everything has gone wrong. It's somehow dh's fault . I don't know where to start.

It does sound a little patronising :(
And it probably feels worse because you've been dealing with it alone.

But, then, your DH probably feels like he needs to help and hasn't been able to - it's a practical thing, isn't it, him highlighting the relevant bits, so he feels like he's doing something. :)

why do you have to express for the 7pm feed? Will he not take it directly from you?

He was still snacking on and off until around 9 or 10pm and turning into a screaming banshee every night.

I think I'm just tired and being a little irrational.

Big hug CC. Everything hasnt gone wrong! You are doing a fab job. Doesnt stop you feeling low at times though. It is tough when dh's seem to impart "wisdom" from on high without really understanding what's going on. I think it's a particularly male way of thinking/coping though - here's a problem, this is apparently a solution, hence this is what we do.

The switch to formula doesn't have to be complete. Mixed feeding has been absolutely right for us. Dd has a formula bottle at bedtime which I introduced at 10 weeks because I really couldn't be faffed with expressing all the time. I've only ever done one full feed of formula regularly but she will occasionally have cartons when out and about or when being looked after by others, and for a while she was having a couple of ounces in the mornings so she could take her gaviscon. My supply has coped perfectly well with all the changing about, not that feeding has always been completely straight forward of course, but somehow knowing I could just stop meant that I didnt.

Hugs CC. Nothing has gone wrong at all other than your adorable DS stealing your sleep and making everything seem worse than it is I was where you are about 6 weeks ago.

Completely understand your with your DH. Had the same thing here. DH is a star but there are times I wish he were more engaged. It is flattering he thinks I know it all but there are times we are both clutching at straws and he defers to me for the final decision when I know no more than him. His fave is to quote things at me I know come from his friends with kids he then thinks is gospel, which for some reason boils my blood!

As you know I really, really beat myself up over adding a formula feed. We are now up to 4 a day and 2 BFs. My HV gave me some really good (but ultimately late and useless for me) info. The growth spurt around 4-5 months means you need to rest more and boost your calorie intake to get your milk supply up and suitable for the next stage. I wish I had known that. I don't exactly scrimp on food () but I haven't really change the way I eat since pregnancy.

You can try a bottle of formula for a few days. Doesn't mean you have to continue with it.

Another one asking why you express the night feed? Just never been faffed myself unless I was going out. I also found expressing getting harder just after Christmas. The more stressed you are the harder it will be, but you know that.

Whatever your decision on sleep or food or anything you are doing the best for your DS. Huge hugs xxxx

Thanks for being so supportive. Everything had been really good lately. I feel like I just crashed at the end of this week. Have had a better day today. Got a sore stomach though, so wondering if my period is thinking about making an appearance. Going to give myself a few days and see how things are. When things are bad it's normally best for me to wait a while before making any decisions.

Ds has come out full of the cold today, so he has probably been more demanding than usual too.

Good advice about eating more. As dh works away so much I was struggling to do anything with ds in the evenings. I couldn't even get my dinner. He wouldn't go down for a sleep and wouldn't just cluster feed either. We had a week of him just ending up over tired and screaming. Decided to express and give him 3 or 4oz at 7pm. This was helping him to sleep a couple of hours.

you need to make loads of meals in the daytime, when you've got spare time. then just whip them into the microwave before you sit down to cluster-feed in the evening. also make a jug of your favourite drink and put it next to you with a glass. and also get some snacky foods in a lunch box that you can nibble on as you feed him :)

I used to be an old pro at that kind of thing Nickel and enjoyed cluster feeding, but this was different. In hindsight it was probably due to Christmas and him being overtired. It's tough when it gets to the stage that you can't relax in the living room with them any more. I miss those evenings. Not explaining myself very well.

Anyway, how is everyone else getting on? Is Frak back on her js thread? We have 'known' each other a long time now haven't we?!

Hello all,

I've seen a few of you on the grads or JSing thread recently, but since Bam has had her boy, I'm all on my tod over there! So I wondered if I may come and join you over here. I promise I'll be good and won't make a noise to wake any sleeping babies!

I was Miffles on the JSing thread, and had a few random name changes to try and avoid my sister. Now I stick as Princess -with a baby-sized fruit afterwards!

I'm not sure how many know my full story, so I'll quickly recap (sorry if I'm repeating myself). After 12 months JSing, we were prescribed clomid. I wasn't ovulating and DH had pretty lousy swimmers too. After about 8 months clomid and no joy, we were referred for IVF. It was decided I would stay on clomid, purely so my periods were regular. We met with the consultant and had the appt all set to start injections. And then, month 10 of clomid and month 22 of trying, wahey! BFP!!! Couldn't believe my eyes.

First trimester was rotten, as many find it, and I think I lost about 10lb. But back on form now. 21+4, and feeling great. Blooming is certainly the word! Have put all the weight back on plus some and our 20wk scan showed a little girl kicking around. Today, she seems to have taken great delight in dancing in my pelvis and kicking my pubic bone. Which is most disconcerting when in a meeting!

Glad to hear (read?) from lots of familiar faces (names?). I won't be able to catch up on the whole thread, so if you fancied giving me the headline news, that'd be wonderful.

Hey Princess you're very welcome here.
Dd is now nearly 6 months (no, I don't know where that went either) and is eating solids, sitting up like a pro and desperate to get moving. Stubbornly refuses to roll over though, and her pretensions to crawling are somewhat inhibited by an aversion to being on her front! She moved into her own room last week. Still bfing (mostly-one bottle of formula in the evenings) and intend to continue until I start thinking about going back to work, though still not sure when that will be.

In less appealing news, I went to the GP today (as ordered ) and she took a look. I do have a degree of damage from dd's birth though minor, and dr advised to do pelvic floors properly for 6 weeks and if no better I'll have to go to a consultant. Boo.
Amazing how childbirth removes all inhibitions - when she asked if I minded her examining me she asked if I wanted someone else in the room. I couldn't work out why on earth she would be summoning else to take a look but said ok, then I realised that it was standard practise to cover her and me against any accusation and said I was fine with no one else there. Did worry me though how easily I agreed to let someone else in. Fanjo inspections are not a spectator sport!

CC I sympathise. I think I know exactly what you mean. The newborn phase has past and you have a switched on, frustrated little personality who has ideas of their own and whilst they may feed a bit they just don't concentrate on the job like they used to. Sainsburys have those Innocent veg pots on at half price at the moment. I find they a good quick fix. Although I get to the stage where I can't even be arsed with that on a bad day :)

Esk glad the docs went well - it that the right phrase?! You know what I mean. I am with you on the fanjo displays. I drop my kecks at the slightest hint for any health professional these days. Good job, if we go down the IVF route again...oh dildo cam, it's been a while ;)

An early welcome Princess - you'll feel at home here. I think we have a really lovely, balanced (if not manic!) insight into motherhood here. I hope we don't scare you!

My DS was the last of the fortnight cluster that saw Esk, CC and myself give birth. He is 5 and three quarter months now, weaning like a pro and utterly gorgeous.

That said we have just had a horrid bedtime. He was sick after his bath and then violently sick halfway through if bed time feed. Really drowsy. I am pretty sure he is shockingly tired after 3 days of crap napping. Not stopping me heading up to his room more times than when he fusses :(

Glad you went esk. Sorry again for being bossy .

Ds is six months on Friday. He was a bit of a Velcro baby. Despite my rants below, he is a wee star. I think being able to roll over has chilled him out massively. No interest in sitting up unless he is in his high chair and working on his hamster cheeks impersonation! He is on the second night of sleeping in his own room (well he starts there, but that's a whole other thread ).

Glad to hear your pregnancy is going well. Have you got a short list of baby names yet?

Lucky you CC, DS is soooooo desperate to sit up. Just ordered the Fisher Price Jumperoo on recommendations of pretty much everyone. It is ridiculously expensive so I hope he likes it! He is completely over lying on his playmat. He rolls on to his front and then forgets he can roll back so gets cross! It's bloody cute to watch!

I was just recommended the jumperoo too. It's quite often sold out which is a good sign. I already have a door bouncer thing which ds loves.