July 2010: Drool it, maul it, crawl over it - that's how our threadbabes would eat a creme egg. But why the Creme Egg?!

[CakeandRoses]

Will that do us?

/panic

Yeah thats a good idea, I generally wait til D has had his first nap (usually bf and on me).

This is prob a stupid ques as I know how W is, but when he goes into the cot, has he ever REALLY cried as in screaming, for hours? I feel like everyone elses baby has cried, then gone to sleep with minimal fuss but this is prob far from the truth.

can you try to fit in a trial overnighter before then dh? that's what we did and it really helped make up my mind. it needs to be someone you know will just happily deal with it and D knows v well tho of course. our friends have a dd the same age as F so we knew they'd know what to do with him whatever happened. is there anyone like that for you?

What do I do in the middle of the night? He'll be worse then because he wont be as tired as he is now IYSWIM because he'll have had that 2, 3,4 or whatever hours sleep.

F did all that in spades dh, the way i see it you have 3 choices:

a) carry on as you are til he one day grows out of it

b) go hardcore like mlic

c) commit to doing shush/pat, pupd or similar for fucking hours for days on end. dh and i used to clock in and out of his room for most of the night doing 40 minute shifts but it did eventually work (albeit we'd have to go thru it again after every batch of teething or illness)

He was going to go to my mums cake so at least Ill know hes with someone he knows and I trust.

Hes asleep I think, DP is in there with him. My friend is coming round tomorrow with wine so even if I have to do it on my own Ill have some help from her and ill be pissed

note re c above: we've always let him in our bed when teething/ill hence why we'd have to start again afterwards, it got easier each time tho

cake I dont like any of those options :( maybe hardcore is my only choice then.

i'd def do a trial if your mum is up for it dh, tis amazing what they'll do differently when mummy/milk isn;t around to get them back to sleep

Hes asleep, he woke up after 2 mins so DP is back in there.

cake Ill see how he goes Id feel bad if he was awful for her. Id be so jealous if he was an angel for her!

and i really think you have to tackle day-time naps too, dh

i know it seems insurmountable now but if you do commit to doing something about his sleep you will see an improvement - and it probably won;t take that long (it'll just feel like it at the time)

that's what (nice) mothers are for dh, i'm sure she'll be happy to forego a good night's sleep to help you have a proper wedding night with your new dh. i knew our friends felt that way, they wouldn't have cared if they were up all night with him as long as it meant we could have that night off.

if he's angel then you'll know he CAN bloody well do it and he's just acting up for you/bf

Hes crying again now, he kept jumping and waking himself up.

So tackle daytime naps aswell. Its changing his whole feed/sleep association thats going to be hard.

Ok thanks ladies for your support, Im signing off now. Ill let you know how we get on, dont shoot me if he ends up in our bed, I know it'll be my fault.

BTW am I the only one co-sleeping?

good luck dh try to stay strong

nah, no-one else co-sleeps, tsc shares a bed with tiny but gets no actual sleep

A occasionally (couple of times a month) comes in with us if she's teething an can;t get to back to sleep in her cot but she's such a laid-back thing that she doesn't care where she is the rest of the time.

oh and i'm really sorry if the survey did upset you tsc, just a bad month as you said, i know you've been out and about looking foxy and chatting up slebs since having tiny

hes still crying. Theres no point in me going to bed is there? Wish I had some wine.

And a ciggie...

He is in his room :)

dh I agree with cake. I hope it all goes better than you expect and he catches on quickly!

I'm also glad I'm not the only one still feeding at night, sometimes I feel like you've all moved on and I'm still feeding on demand [total mug emoticon]

How long have you managed to extricate yourself from your baby's clutches for (during their waking hours)? about 2 hours is the longest and only about 5 times in 10 months.

Have you managed a baby-free overnighter?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. no.

Are you reading actual real books again: yep

Are you back in all your pre-baby clothes?
yes but my stomach is disgusting and I've still got nearly a stone to go.

Have you achieved anything (non-baby), e.g. created something; done something brilliant at work; found time to help someone else? I've planted veg and knitted/crocheted a few things but that's not non-baby so no.

Have you got anything which could be described as a hobby or interest?knitting

Have you got an actual social life (note: Stay 'n' Play doesn't count)? no

Are you and dh/dp managing to talk about anything other than whose turn it is to change the poopernova which just erupted/have a lie-in/get up in the night/clean up after Hurricane Mealtime?
yes

Have you done any of your pre-baby favourite activities, e.g. go to a gig; watch a play; cinema with dh/dp; rock-climbing; dogging
no

Have you got your actual sex-mojo back?
No, before L I was horny as anything but bfing takes it out of me. I didn't get it back til she stopped and got pg within a month. It's crap tbh

I did hardcore with L and she screamed and screamed and screamed. The longest she went was 3.5 hours without stopping. She was stubborn as hell. She cracked around 10 months after 2 weeks of hideous cc but ever since she's been brilliant (as long as she's not got an excema flare-up)

Sorry dh, that was in response to your question about whether babies cry for ages or just give in. S will cry for an hour or more (like he did at lunchtime today), he doesn't give in easily. I've been up since 4.30am so I'm not on top form at the moment.