July 2010: Drool it, maul it, crawl over it - that's how our threadbabes would eat a creme egg. But why the Creme Egg?!

[CakeandRoses]

Will that do us?

/panic

trudyla you havent fucked her up....do me a favour and bin the book that woman is a fruitcake in my opinion!!! L can and will play on his own and everyone who sees him do it says its very very unusual for a baby to do it, I find it worrying as he prefers to sit in the corner with his books and ignores other even me holding something tasty to eat!! L only eats slop again now, no lumps whatsoever or he gags and throws up, I feel like he is the only baby his age who wont eat lumps or pieces but I know he will get there in the end, all babies are different, all babies develop at different stages, L had a clingy stage a few weeks ago and it has passed and now he is smacky and scratchy!
I went docs on one of my many crying sessions and said I cant put him down, if I leave the room he screams, and they said its ok for them to cry they will eventually learn that you will come back and the crying will phase out, it was awful doing it but he is fine on his own in the room now.
my new guilty thing is I cant leave L to sleep, I have to hold him til he drops off which he has only just done, I think I will be letting him doze off in my arms as a teenager, but it is one habit im scared of changing!!

Oddly enough, S will play by himself for ages if he's in the right mood, in fact today we were all in the kitchen except him and I thought I should go and watch him so I went in, he gave me a dirty look and crawled out into the hallway and continued to play on his own L however is was an entirely different kettle of fish and wanted constant, unending, uninterrupted, unbroken, unwavering, total, complete focused attention on her, all the time. Even now the most I'll get out of her without S's help is about 10-15 mins before she's wanting my attention again.
trudyla you haven't ruined her, she's uniquely her. Ditch the book and do what works for you both.
woodlands we just swapped the dc around and S's room is now very pink and butterfly-ey :)
tsc C sounds like a handful, when I was teaching I dreaded the class with 'the bright one' cos he needed so much more planning/work than the others otherwise he'd get bored and distract everyone else!
cake I'm up for a countryside view, I'm not fussy unlike viksam

I'm knackered and off to bed.

Hold on, Hold on, im not that bothered as long as its luxury, im not saying i wouldnt prefer a sea view..........but..........when ur in the swimming pool it doesnt really matter, equally when ur in the seam room or the jacuzzi it wouldnt matter that much! Also can we hire like Gina Ford or someone to come and look after all the babies, lets see if she can make D sleep, or G play or W stop shouting or L eat lumps or indeed any of the babies on here behave like the fantastic babies that she goes on about in her god forsaken books!!
trudyla i second speaking to the doc, even if its for ur own sake. Do u have any restbite during the week? Is there any childcare u can make use of to give u a break?
TSC How come hes not in his cot at night? Sounds very difficult for u atm, hope things get easier this week.
cake i take it ur lodge will have all of the above mentioned things? I do hope so, we also need a cook(not really fair to make mylife do it all) and a cleaner and a babysitter so we can all go out!!!
Anyhow, back to reality and im off to bed cos i have horrid day from hell tomorrow and wednesday, please pleasssseeeeeeeee sleep D!!!
Night all! xx

viksam I like your style

I'm really off to bed now

Trude put down the bloody books. I echo what everyone has said, this is not your fault. This is the type of baby she is and it's not your doing. Seriously you will drive yourself mad by reading what she should be doing.
no time to post much else except i can't wait ti come to the lodge cake!

Trudy have to remember that babies can't read those books and you haven't fucked her up in the slightest. Think everyone on here knows or has been in your situation and the baby whisperer is talking shit! Speak to your doctor explain your concerns about M and ask for some support. Do you ever get a break? {{Hugs}}

Viks like the sound of this lodge. Does it have an endless supply of booze, chocolate salad and other treats?

Cakes know what you mean about wage drop. I stopped working after a car crash we were in so went from 2 wages to 1 so hard but hopefully I'll get a job soon. How's date night?

Glad you had a better day with W mlic.

Chulita its funny the looks they give you isn't it? As if how dare you watch me

Wasn't finished, daft phone!

Woods room sounds great wish we had a spare room for R.

Tsc you must be sick of the same conversation with dp. My dm used to stop for a bit acting like she was fine but was just getting better at hiding. I know you probably know this but he has to hit rock bottom himself. Even my mum loosing both her kids didn't induce the realisation she had a problem. Quite impressed with C's making a menu up through dance and the snowy school day.

Cakes I used letterland for J and he loved it unfortunately they don't teach them that way now they use jolly phonics so if you can get books like that it'll probably help. My friends a teacher I could ask her if you want?

Memphis think its fine to have your own routines and things you enjoy doing with your baby, eventually you or him will change things. J couldn't go to sleep without playing with my or someones hair he eventually just stopped it but when he's ill he likes to do it. Think he may have a fetish!

Kk you been mega busy?

Wss do you think lowering the nap has helped G?

hey all

too late to post much but had a brill evening. really good curry and rather enjoyed Thor (except the totally unauthentic norseness, needle ) and the popcorn [heifer emoticon] Did lots of that hand-holding stuff with dh

oh and we'd left F up with my father and step-mother to put to bed later so they got to spend some time with him but after half an hour he announced it was time for him to go to bed, needed to brush his teeth and then switched the TV off on his way out. I'm surprised he didn't straighten the sofa cushions too, which has been known . Sooo not his father's son

vik hot tub - check; sauna - check; cleaner - check; gina ford on tap - need to find out and get back to you.

trudy do listen to what everyone's saying - it's not your fault and it WILL get better. like memphis said with L, everyone is always commenting on how easy my two are/were as both will play independently (often until i feel lonely and go and get them) so the fact its so comment-worthy proves it's NOT the bloody norm no matter what that Tracey does she even have children Hogg says.

wss i'm so of school not starting til 5 in NZ. want to keep pfb with me forever I don't know how i'll feel come the term he's due to actually start school but at the moment I really don't like the thought.

Happy sleeping y'all

Gosh, I'm really sorry that I have monopolised this thread once more. I don't know what I'd do without you all. Thank you very much for your support.

I will not change a lot around today. We're going to England tomorrow and everything will get changed around so will start any change in routine after we're back. Not sure what I'll do yet though. Oh, and let's see what the doctor says today.

Sorry for making you shout all the way from NZ, wss How was/is your Pub quiz (too lazy to think about time difference).

cake Haha, it's so funny how F reacted. My nephew is/was the same. When he stayed with my parents he would announce that he wanted to go to bed and my mum would say, please can I just watch the end of this before I take you

Lots of packing to do today, then we're off tomorrow morning.

chulita L hides behind the rocking chair with his books and if you look behind to see if hes ok he gives you a dirty look!!!
cakes we went to the cinema yesterday and watched the Hangover 2 in the day, we had hot dogs (I had a large one, dh a medium one) and popcorn, then we took my mum out for tea and I had a 26oz mixed grill and ate it all and then had a slice of chocolate lumpy bumpy with extra ice cream then before bed I had a few cookies with my tea!!

stac tonight im going to try and hold him in the chair in his room to see if he gives in quicker, im just worried as my friends lad who is 18months wont sleep without her lying next to him and it can take 2 hours, i refuse to be that person!!!
weather is lovely today we are going to a fete with some mum friends, dh has only just gone to work he is working at a school up the road so im going to walk L to see his dad to take his lunch!!!! probably the only time it will ever happen!!! Then I plan to go into town to buy a coloured jacket for my night out friday as Ive got a black dress and only own a black jacket, dont want to look like im going to work!!!

memph You'll only become 'that person' if you decide to. Most children's behaviour is easily cracked once you set your mind to it and keep consistent. I think it's just about picking the right time when you're all feeling well, not teething etc and accept it'll mean a few nights of aggro.

fwiw, F has slept in his own bed all the night thru (except once i think when he was screaming with teeth) since we clamped down a month or so ago - that was after over 2.5 years of coming into our bed most nights. we were just waiting for the right time to stop him coming in with us - before then we were ok with it.

He's also slept thru 2 nights in a row

I loved tsc's C 'dance instead of speech', tbh she sounds fantastic but can see why she's hard work if she's yours! maybe it would be worth letting her learn at her own pace as given she's so bright the school will need to plan how/what to teach her regardless. She'll probably be classed as 'Gifted and Talented' and given different support. So you may as well reap the rewards of a less-bored Clara now - if she can read she might well keep out of trouble.

i snorted at lure of the dog-bowl mlic .

do dummy runs cancel out the term 'sleeping thru' in your view? If she's not teething then A will sleep thru 7.30 - 7ish except her 11.30pm feed and 1 or 2 dummy runs

stac if you can ask your friend that would be great thanks. It's not that i want to do formal lessons with him , i just want to know what the best next steps are.

cakes I class a dummy run as still sleeping though as I just put the dummy and there is no picking him up or anything the dummy is going 2 months after top 2 teeth are through but it looks like they will never come though!!

why 2m after 2 top teeth come thru?

funnily enough, i said to dh last night that i'm gearing to lose the dummy now she's got her two top teeth. need to do it before the next batch of teething starts ideally but it's just we're enjoying the first bit of nightly calm in this house for a while now F is sleeping well too so i'm putting it off a bit.

1y is def the latest but i might well do it this month if the mood takes me. actually it might make sense to do it before i go back to work so yes, this month probably

Survey-time: Who is your baby like?

Hair:

Skin-colour:

Eyes:

Nose:

Mouth:

Face-shape:

Body:

Height:

Personality:

Any weird traits/throw-back to previous generations?

Survey-time: Who is your baby like?

Hair: what hair? Dark like mine

Skin-colour: she's fair like both of us

Eyes: Shape-wise like mine. Colour-wise, dh and i have the same blue-green colour so that could be from either of us.

Nose: Not sure but possibly mine (praying it's not like my mother's or MIL's)

Mouth: Not sure, sometimes looks like mine and sometimes like dh's. Both hers and F's top teeth look chunky like mine.

Face-shape: Definitely mine, has the same chin and 'cheek-bones' and her face does the same thing as mine when she smiles, iykwim?

Forgot ears: Mine I think

Body: Her hands and feet are like dh. Her short arms and long torso are like mine.

Height: She's taller than average but so are dh and i so again could be either of us

Personality: She's like the love child of Coco the Clown and the Mad Hatter tbh, properly crazy a lot of the time and has a filthy laugh. We think she's more like dh but that might be just because F is so like me and she's a bit different - she's more laid-back and has always been happier to sleep.

Any weird traits/throw-back to previous generations? Not a weird trait but she has a birth-mark on her head (which will fade to nothing) which no-one else in the family had. sod's law that she has no hair to cover it as on most 10 month olds you wouldn't see it at all by now! not that it really matter, it just gets tiresome explaining it to people.

cakes its just something i have set in my mind so i cant back out of it, my thinking was after 2 months the top teeth would be through and not causing him grief then so it can go then!

survey-

hair- not sure think dh, I havent seen my natural colour for 15 years!! But he has got a triple crown like dh!!

skin- think like me, very pale, hope it will be like dh as he goes tanned I just cant go in the sun!!

Eyes- my eye shape, and a mixture of both of out colours, hazel with blue flecks.

nose- looks like mine until he cries or talks and it hooks down like his dads!!

mouth- like me, big mouth with a fuller bottom lip!

face shape, like me round with fat cheeks!

body-- like both of us, long body short legs!!!

height- average, but think he will be taller than us taking itfrom another family member

personality- has a real temper like me, likes to chill out on his own like me and if he cant go outside no matter what the weather he gets grumpy like his dad

weird traits/ throw back? he sleeps with his eyes half open like my brother, and thats about it!!

Thanks for another survey cake Will answer later.

Quick question. Can you freeze hummus? Just made a big batch and realised that we're going away. Doh.

safety-wise can't see an issue with freezing it. it might not be that nice when thawed tho.

more info here

Thanks cake.

mlic you cheated! you have to say who each feature is from, not just describe (even if you do so v nicely as you did )

that's better, mlic

oooh you're tough re sleeping thru. i was tempted not to give A her dummy just now when i put her down for her nap but i decided to wait til i know i'm fully committed.

can i have your puff pastry recipe please?

chul why is your ciabatta recipe so nice and why does it take 2 days?

about to bake something lemony but haven't decided what

cakes puff pastry recipe.....
get in car
go to shop
go to butter/milk section
usually top 2 shelves next to shortcrust will be puff pastry in a red packet