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Petalouda · 31/03/2011 21:27

Post-natal thread for all the antenatal April 2011 Family! Grin

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ecuse · 02/05/2011 02:26

Bum, I just wrote a whole big post and lost it. One more time ....

Hello everyone! Signing in for the postnatal thread - baby Joanna was born on Wednesday night, 7.13pm following induction. Had gone in for my midwife meeting on the Tuesday afternoon, taking my DP with me for backup, to say that I wanted to postpone and allow baba to come in her own time. But they took my blood pressure and it was raised again, so they basically said they wanted to bring it forward rather than back and start immediately - a bit of a shock!

They gave me another S&S and I was having what I thought might have been minor contractions, 2cms dilated and 80% effaced, so they gave me a 'half dose' of prostin gel at 8pm on the Tuesday to start me off, and said they'd give me a 'proper dose' at 6am on Wednesday if nothing had happened. Contractions started at 2am, though, and was transferred to labour ward at just after 6am at 4cm dilated. Was doing (I thought) really well on TENS, gas and air and my natal hypnotherapy 'dialing down the pain' visualisation technique. However they said I wasn't progressing quickly enough and were pushing to get things moving. I refused ARM once, but after 8 hours and still only 5cm I agreed they could break the membranes. When they did so, contractions failed to either slow down or intensify, and there was a small amount of meconium, so they put me on a synto drip, the thing I had been most dreading. Based on the advice of those on here, I insisted on an epidural being in place before they did. That's more or less everything I was hoping to avoid, so I had a bit of a cry about it, but actually epidurals are AWESOME! I had been in labour for 12 hours by this point, and hadn't slept the night before and was exhausted, and the epidural allowed me to just stop all the endless pacing of hospital corridors I'd been doing and actually get some sleep for a few hours (surprising how quickly I stopped giving a tinkers toss that people were staring at me when I stopped to lean on the wall and groan during contractions!).

After that it went very quickly - I started feeling pressure downwards so the midwife checked me, and I was at 9cm only 2 hours later and 10cm shortly after that. I did a couple of 'test pushes' and they agreed I was more or less ready to go but advised we wait an hour so that I didn't do any abortive pushing. Then they were all doom and gloom about the likelihood of me not being able to push the baby out because of the epidural, and the increased risk of caesarian because of high BMI, so I was feeling really full of trepidation. Also they had me flat on my back with my legs in stirrups. I asked whether I could get in another position but they refused because of the need to monitor the baby. So I was feeling very pessimistic. Started pushing at just after 7pm. Did three big pushes on first contraction, then the midwife said the baby's heartrate had dropped, and hit the 'panic' button - cue sirens and people coming running from all directions. We were terrified and the midwife was distracted talking to people about foreceps and stuff but I felt another contraction so just gave it as much welly as I could and the baby literally shot out like a cannonball. Don't think the midwife was expecting that all all and I CERTAINLY wasn't (they'd warned me I could be pushing for an hour) - little Jo went flying straight through her hands and landed face first on the delivery table! We were all completely shellshocked! And it didn't really hurt at all because of the epidural. I did get a second degree tear, though. I have to say, the stitches hurt far more than the pushing stage.

I have to say I was overwhelmed and shocked, but I don't think I got that 'rush of love' that I was expecting. And I felt quite oddly detached from her that whole night. But now - four days later - I am absolutely besotted! I literally think she's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen Grin

We were in hospital two days, settling a pattern of medication for me to ramp down from the blood pressure tablets and also waiting for little Jo to do her first wee (we think she might have been doing them all along, actually, but disposable nappies being as absorbent as they are and meconium being as all-encompassing as it is, we couldn't be sure). So we were in for about 48 hours in the end, which was really frustrating, but we've been home now since Friday night.

I did the stereotypical crying and panicking the first night, wondering how I'm ever going to take care of her, and not wanting to go to sleep in case she stops breathing but hopefully I'm getting my groove now.

Breastfeeding is going OK, I think. I'm finding it a bit two-steps-forward-one-step-back. Can mostly get her successfully latched on now, and she's doing about 10-12 feeds a day of around 20-25 minutes. It does hurt a bit, though, and I'm not convinced I'm getting the best latch I can - going to review this thread for advice.

And finally did the Dreaded First Poo an hour or two ago. It was actually one of those things that was far worse in anticipation than practice. For what it's worth, I waited until I really needed to go, resolved to let it come rather than pushing it, held a warm wet flannel against me whilst going and then wiped the worst off with baby wipes and jumped in the shower to rinse properly rather than using dry toilet paper. It didn't actually hurt much at all, execpt for a little twinge, but it did bleed a tiny bit. Sorry for TMI, but I figure we're all past worrying about that now, aren't we?!

Looking forward to catching up with you all, and to the rest of the April ladies joining us ASAP xx

architien · 02/05/2011 04:06

Ladies I have news: It's a girl! Rose has been born! Labour was less than two hours, no pain relief or stitches required, all at home so so fast. A 1st of May Beltane baby. Luckily they sent two midwives who were great. There wasn't even time for bath and you wouldn't have guessed it had happened here at all as all is tidy and lovely, not much fuss!

Have fed baby Rose and now she's sleeping.

frakyouveryverymuch · 02/05/2011 05:31

Congratulations arch & ecuse - welcome to the other side with your lovely little girls.

Liv77 · 02/05/2011 06:54

Welcome Joanna Grin & Rose Grin, congratulations ecuse & arch

How is the stats thread, what's our boy/girl count now?

LisMcA · 02/05/2011 08:56

Fab news arch! What a story ecuse!

I'm having to 2 steps forward 3 steps back bf routine just now. Sometimes he latches sometimes he doesn't. Infant feeding advisor is in today so I'm hoping to bsee her. B is getting by on my mirco hand expressed amoutns when he doesn't latch but the midwives keep giving me deadlins. If he doesn't latch by X time we'll have to do something. Pardon my french but that isn't effing helping!

JustKeepSwimming · 02/05/2011 10:46

Arch & Ecuse - congratulations & welcome to PN :)

M managed a really good sleep last night, i think it was about 11-4.30 Shock

Then both boys were awake from then poor M not really getting the recognition for being fab that she deserves!

DS2 has been sick in the night. joy. hoping it is over now and he can still make it to pre-sch tomorrow Hmm
DS1 getting braver all the time with his frame & shuffling about on his bottom, yey.

Cyclebump · 02/05/2011 12:51

Hurrah! Welcome all new babies! Beautiful names and glad to hear everyone is ok. I didn't get the rush of love either ecuse, I still haven't, I just feel like he's been mine forever. Every so often I smell his baby smell or he grips my finger and I can't believe I get to keep something so precious. Sigh...

Try not to let the pressure get to you Lis, I'm sure the trouble I had with BFing at first was made worse by the pressure I put on myself and the doom and gloom predictions of some people. If you have to end up topping up with formula please don't worry. H is four weeks tomorrow and is now exclusively BF even though he was on formula top ups for the first two weeks. It actually helped me BF as he was so much calmer after I'd taken the edge off his hunger that I could take my time over the latch and now we're totally happy. I even do it in public!

Liv77 · 02/05/2011 12:51

JKS Thanks for the stats update, I didn't trust myself to count.
Hurrah, it's preschool tomorrow for my DS too, hope your DS is well enough to go. I've had a duvet morning and have now snuck downstairs for lunch as DH has taken DS out down the cafe for lunch.

lucielooo · 02/05/2011 13:42

Congratulations ecuse and architien and big welcome to our two new girls :)

Hope you're both feeling ok after what sound like very different labours.

Lis what support are the mw's giving you? Are they physically showing you how to latch baby on? Not sure if it's the same where you are, but (most of) the postnatal ward mw's were really good at helping once I worked out you had to stop someone and ask for it!

MrsWajs · 02/05/2011 15:13

Congratulations to arch, ecuse, lis and anyone else I've missed while I've been awol! Finding it hard to get time to post!!

Think I must be extremely lucky as Robyn (touch wood) has gotten herself into quite a good routine at night and after a bit of faffing around getting her down in the first place she generally only wakes for one night feed!! :)

BF is stressing me a bit, left side was out of action for a couple of days after developing a huge crack in it - ouch!! Tentatively started using it again last night and it's not too bad but now right nipple has a blister on it :( finding it very frustrating as it's so painful getting her on and also once she's on I can't get myself into a comfortable position as if I move my hand away from my breast it slips and she loses her latch, so currently BF'ing in a bit of a cack-handed manner but breast feeding all the same!

Daisy17 · 02/05/2011 15:48

Hello girls! It's taken me ages to get round to posting, but have been lurking for news and reassurance..... Can't believe little S is nearly three weeks old! Full irth story can wait till another time, but just a little rant about the policy of sending first-timers home when they're three centimetres dilated telling them slightly condescendingly that "it gets much worse than this, dear, perhaps you should go to the cinema and take your mind off it" (I quote)....I KNOW they can't predict how it's going to go, and they don't have much room, but three hours later I was (it later transpired) in transition on my hands and knees on my bed begging DP not to call an ambulance because it was too embarrassing that I was such a wuss and I could only be about 5cm by now and they'd just send me home again...thankfully he didn't listen, drove me screaming up to the hospital, where they took one look at me, shoved the gas and air in my hand and said PUSH!!!! As it was he needed forceps to help him out so god knows what would have happened had we still been at home.....shudder.....

Anyway, he is now safe and sound and gorgeous :>) although I get in a pickle every day about exactly how he should be feeding sleeping behaving etc. Finding it very difficult to be chilled about it all. DP very good, he keeps telling me that S is happy, a good colour, putting on weight and not about to die so I need to relax! But every time he has a little cry I feel like I've failed.....ridiculous...I think it's tummy trouble to be honest, gripey bowels rather than burpyness - any tips from the pros?

And finally congrats all on your beautiful babies - isn't is just amazing?!?! Smile

lucielooo · 02/05/2011 15:58

MrsWajs have you tried a feeding pillow? (or maybe normal pillows would do.. but could be a bit low) I can't feed without the feeding pillow - it give me somewhere to rest the arm that is holding my boob, and also leaves the other hand free for stroking babies back/drinking tea rather than supporting the weight of the baby. Doesn't help everyone, but might be worth a try?

Cyclebump · 02/05/2011 16:12

Ooh Daisy, sounds scary! My unit were similarly sceptical about how far along I was but luckily I was 5cm when I went in so didn't get sent home. We only went on DP's insistence though as they did their best to put me off.

I'll get the goss up the hill hopefully Smile

I've ordered a feeding pillow. Can't remember who was saying about big boobs but mine are a bloody liability. Am in 36J nursing bras and have to hold the latched boob between two fingers to keep it up and clear of H's nose as they swamp him! DP calls them 'the six-pinters' and as H has just thrown up again I'm wondering if they are indeed a mobile dairy Hmm

lucielooo · 02/05/2011 16:23

Not sure if it was me cycle but definitely applies here! I have massive knockers. (and a vomitting baby)

I do wonder how I'll ever be able to feed in public with them/their need for a feeding pillow.. Also feeding bras are a nightmare - if I'm ready to feed I don't fit in them properly so I'm worried about getting blocked ducts or mastitis where they're tight, I'm mainly wearing crop-toppy things instead but they offer very little support which is no good either.

Have to say I'm not one of those who embrace their massive breastedness!

Daisy pleased to hear that baby is here safe and well but does sound like it was a rough journey getting there.

I feel awful every time I hear my baby cry too. He has a really forlorn sounding cry.. it's not an angry one it just sounds heartbreakingly sad [sob sob] poor little poppet.

stuffedmk · 02/05/2011 16:55

Woohoo! more babies everytime I come on here Grin congrats to all.
We have had our first few little smiles Grin can't believe we have our six week check on wednesday, it's all going far too quickly lol.
Thinking about weight loss, trying to decide my best options. Will be going back to karate soon and will be working towards being ready for the next oportunity to grade think it will be a while yet though as my next is black belt and the grading is pretty hardcore, needing fitness to be so far from where I am now lol. Oh well I guess at least it will be motivation to work hard.

MrsWajs · 02/05/2011 17:01

Lucie Have been using a pillow today which is more comfortable but a bit annoyed as I was managing to feed perfectly well the first few days without one. Robyn has had a meal at tesco's and the registrars office so far!! But can't see me being so confident with outside feeding now!

Don't know if it makes any difference but I am in the small boob club - only just filling 38B nursing bra's and the back is already too big! Nipples are of the flat variety also so doubt that helps.

JenAT · 02/05/2011 18:31

Hello to all newcomers, lost track of all the new arrivals!

Congrats to Arch and Ecuse

Stuffed how exciting to be getting baby smiles!

JKS you really do have your hands full, don't you.But its good that little M is such a star and she is sleeping so well at night.

It is DH first day back at work tomorrow but dd is at nursery so just me and George for the day. Planning on getting out in the fresh air as the only way to get him to settle during the day is being pushed in pram or in sling otherwise he wants to be permanently clamped on the boob. We have resorted to trying a dummy. I know that all the guidance says to wait until they are 4 weeks old but needs must and anyway he spits it out in disgust most of the time

I'm quite lucky in the fact I am only a D cup and dont have to support my boobs to feed.
If any of you need nursing bras and want to buy online try this website.
www.nursingbra.co.uk, shameless plug as a close friend runs the business but there is a wide selection especially for the larger breasted woman!

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 02/05/2011 18:49

Many many congratulations to Arch and Ecuse. Am so happy you got your hb arch, I bet you're on top of the world.

IME all babies get windy and especially in the early days they have trouble with burps, farts and poo's. I guess using their digestive system properly for the first time is pretty hard going.
My advice would be, if they don't burp within a minute or so don't spend hours rubbing and patting. If there's wind it will come up quite quickly. A good position is upright, either on your chest, sitting them up supporting them under the chin with your hand, or draped over your shoulder.
I always think how difficult it must be to poo laying down. Can you imagine it? No wonder they can find it difficult. That's why if mine have got a bit gripey I tend to sling them over my shoulder. I also found that ds1 & 2 would nearly always poo when put in a bouncey chair - I guess the sitting up position puts pressure on the bumhole which helps with pooing.

I have no idea about Infacol, although I have heard it called 'Does Facol' as it hasn't been tested for effectiveness. But, I always think that if you think it works for your lo then knock yourself out.

I hope to post my birth story soon - when I get the chance to type with 2 hands rather than one!

Tinwe · 02/05/2011 19:35

Hello all! Hope you've had easy days.

Congratulations Ecuse and Arch - very different labour stories but both lovely results :)

Mrs - I've been using a cushion to support H from the start, not because of huge boobs, although I'm an F, but because my boobs don't hang low enough (or my torso is too long)! I just use any pillow as long as its the right height - how do nursing pillows differ from ordinary ones?

Ilike - thanks for your words of wisdom re wind Grin We've both empathised with H's steep learning curve when it comes to digestion, but despite my best winding efforts we can hear her burbling away internally and she hardly ever burps, just trumps. We've just started with the Infacol, so will let all know how we get on. H definitely doesn't like the taste though!

Had a better night last night as I gave up on trying to settle H on her back in her cot after a day of on/off trying and instead took her in our bed, on her side facing me with my arm around her so her head was slightly raised on it. Not the easiest position for me as I was dying to turn over at one point, but at least we got a 4.5 hr block of sleep and another 3 hour one after that. DH is thrilled with the "new plan" but as you might imagine, parents are not. They're worried about co sleeping risk (although I pointed out research says we're not high risk for co sleeping). MIL now wants me to put her on her front and DM wants me to try her side. Anyone have any knowledge of the risks of alternative sleeping positions as we've been told its definitely best to put her on her back?!

chillikat · 02/05/2011 20:54

A quick update from me - left handed with one finger as M is feeding on the right! After careful bathing and drying of CS scar it seeemed to get better, then worse so I've started the antibiotics I got the other week. Hopefully it'll clear up soon, got 6 week check next Monday so doc can check it out then.

Will finally be able to get M weighed on Monday too - the closest centre is on Mondays but with 2 bank holidays I haven't been yet and it'll be over 3 weeks since she's been weighed by then.

I'm using my flopeeze feeding cushion more now as she's got heavier as holding her was killing my arms.

I can't believe that a five week old baby can be so funny - she was pulling some brilliant faces at me yesterday, a bit like this: Shock at one point. Sleeping is going pretty well too (at the moment!...)

Cake is calling me.... :o

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 02/05/2011 21:29

We have smiles here too! :)

chilli I know the face you mean, we get that one too! Sorry about your scar :(

yy to a feeding pillow if you have massive norks, I've got a Boppy and it is fab. Mine are a 38G/H and I've bought bras from that website Jen linked to.
lucie - give the Bravado ones a go, they do some which cover a couple of cup sizes so they are good while the size of your breasts is fluctuating a lot in these early weeks.

tinwe I would think that on her back co-sleeping with you is safer than on her front. Have a look at the FSIDS website?
I would also recommend this phrase for dealing with the grandparents 'thanks for those suggestions, we'll bear it in mind' and then change the subject Grin

cycle your mobile dairy comment made me laugh - but in some ways how fabulous considering the problems you had getting your supply started! :)

Sympathies to everyone struggling with wind, T is really windy and he grunts away like mad as soon as we lie him down. Not conducive to getting much sleep!!

ecuse · 03/05/2011 06:47

Ali and others - the wind / lying down thing: is this common? I struggle to get Joanna to settle on her back either in her crib or her pram. Almost as soon as I put her down she has hiccups, burps or she's making this strange gulping/swallowing sound. It's very strange and quite loud. Sounds like she's hungrily swallowing a big drink of milk. She's also very farty (although not much bowel movement - she hasnt pooed in 3 days). I am trying to wind her during and after feeds.

She otherwise sleeps well, though, and spends most of her non-eating time asleep. It's just that she does it either in our arms or in her bouncy chair. It's possible she won't go down in her cot because she just prefers to be cuddled, but I dont think so because she will go down into her bouncy chair without complaint, and sleep there for hours. Problem is I dont think it's good for her back to do all her sleeping in a semi-sitting position and I dont think it's safe for us to be sleeping when she's unattended in the chair. So far we've been 'tag teaming' so one of us is always awake to monitor / hold her, but I dont think that's a sustainable solution in the long term. Any advice?

frakyouveryverymuch · 03/05/2011 07:37

DS will rarely settle on his back but will on his side. I think it must be windy problems as well. He sleeps with us, often falling asleep on his side on the boob and I turn him when I can.

I detest infacol, having tasted it once - have you tried gripe water?

We had him weighed yesterday (actually went to the docs for me as I've noticed increased bleeding) and he's put 300g on his birthweight, 500g in the week since leaving hospital! The inflated boobs and excessive leakage are definitely worth it. I also braved feeding in the docs waiting room without flashing the world so pretty successful really. Given my seeming oversupply is it worth pumping and freezing?

MrsWajs · 03/05/2011 09:38

Feel like shit-mum today, went out for a meal last night which Robyn dutifully slept through but when we got home she woke so we bathed her before her feed and she basically fed from 7pm til 11pm and still wasn't satisfied :( I started to get really stressed and DP couldn't settle her. Everytime she came near me she just wanted back on the boob but then would go on and fall asleep! Ended up giving her and oz and a half of formula and she settled straight after and slept like a log! But now I feel terrible. I'm finding breast feeding so difficult because my nipples are still sore and grazed. I really want to continue for as long as possible but formula feeding seems like it would be so much less stressful for all of us - and thinking that makes me feel like I'm a total failure!! :(

Liv77 · 03/05/2011 09:58

Don't feel bad about the formula MrsWajs, I've decided to stop feeling guilty whenever I top up with formula now. Just do whatever works for you. DD is now on about 6-8oz of formula a day so that's probably about 1/3 formula to 2/3 breastfeeding. She's a much happier baby for it. I would love to have been able to exclusively BF but after 4 weeks of slow weight gain, constant feeding and all the time spent trying to express a tiny amount of BM I decided perhaps DD did need an extra ounce or two of formula.

My nipples hurt for the first 3 weeks, I used Medula nipple shields occassionally to give them a bit of a break. I think it also helped when I started mixed feeding as DD was used to the feel of the nipple shield which is a similar shape to the teat on the Tommee Tippee bottles I use.

I mix fed DS as well and he continued to breastfeed until about 8 months when he weaned himself off. I would recommend trying to give mixed feeding a go before you give up BF completely. Smile