June 10 babies are growing apace, teething and crawling all over the place.

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Here we are ladies. Let's see if we can manage to chat a bit more on this one :).

Lots of throttling feelings going on here La T. Fergus has become very determined and I cannot count the amount of times he says no no no in a day. I am wondering where my happy wee guy has gone too.

CSWS the beaches in sicily are both sandy and rocky depending on where you go. We were in Cefalu mostly which has a long sandy beach. It was a fantastic place but I am not sure I would have liked it in the summer as it gets very hot and busy

Ugh. something up with Daniel. Awake between 12.15 and 3.30 then up at 6. No eating today. No other real signs except for the cough he's had for a week (which hasn't kept him awake thank God). Here's hoping it was just a one off. Think DH and I might kill each other otherwise.

And again - would not go to sleep toight without being cuddled. Usually I pop him in his cot and off he goes. An hour of screaming tonight. Feel very emotional about it. Would you think molars or separation anxiety? He has been waing up about once a night recently, which is unusual, just wanting a stroke. He's in his cot now. I am in bed. I have my fingers crossed but not much hope.

Also typing with gloves on hence typos. Eczema not cold.

Latrucha this sounds like teeth to me. Our dentist told me last month that the molars and the canines are very sore when they break through, and often babies who didn't complain before are really tortured. Zoe was very like this a month ago when her canines were coming through. She would also wake up once in the night. I suppose they have a lot to distract them during the day and so the pain is more obvious at night. I gave her a measure of pain relief in her milk at midnight each night and that did the trick - it only lasted a couple of days, week at the most. Hope Daniel is feeling better soon and that you get some sleep...

Ugh . It's getting worse. He wouldn't settle in bed last night and ended up going to sleep on the sofa next to me. Woke at 12.30 and wouldn't settle. Slept in my bed. It can't go on as if and when DD finds out he's sleeping next to me she'll want in too.

Fell off the thread again. Sorry :(

La T has it got any better yet. I have had a very similar week with fergus, was thinking it was teeth but after some googling it turns out there is a 18 month development sleep regression thingy. Does not help at all and still think it could be teeth but thought i would mention it.

Had my 20 week scan yesterday and I am having another boy which I think I am very happy about although it turns out a little bit of me quite fancied a girl. It will make life easier though and I am not very fond of pink and lilac. It will be good for Fergus to have a brother too I think as he has all girl cousins surrounding him.
Hope everyone else is doing okay, its very very quiet on here these days

I think it's that time of year when we are all too busy to post much goodname.
Congrats on another boy. Have you started thinking about names now?

Hi, just catching up.

goodname congrats on prospect of boy no 2. It's all sounding very exciting now.

dimb hope you are ok, agree you have had a few things to contend with, and not surprised you had a low period

laT I am in sleep sorting mode, it has been grim, but 10 days in, the trend appears to be in the right direction. I posted on sleep section for advice prior to starting, but separating Alice from the booby at night has been hard work and is by no means finished www.mumsnet.com/Talk/sleep/1356992-Order-in-which-to-tackle-the-various-issues-of-my-18-mo-bf-co-sleeper. Hope this is the link, haven't done this before. Anyway last night she did 8hrs 20 mins, which is her record of all time. Today she has not had a nap because she refused to go so sleep without actually being attached to my breast, so we had a mighty battle of wills and I think I salvaged something by simply, after 90 mins, declaring naptime over.

Anyway I hope everyone has a lovely Christmas - amazing that it's Christmas number two for our May & June 2010 babies. I am hoping for a bit more sleep.

Happy Christmas everyone

Congratulations on little boy number two. When's he coming?

The sleep is worse, but we are away, he has a rash on his face, a cold and molars coming through so I'm optimistic that this is just for a while and we can sort it when we get home. [optimistic emoticon]

I'm considering leaving him for a night the day after boxing day. I feel fairly awful about it. It will be the first time. I've only ever let DD to go to my parents' funerals. I think DH will have an awful night but the cause (going to see my best friend who lives a million miles from me normally, only a shortish train journey ATM. I haven't seen her for three years. Her DC have chicken pox so can't take the kids) seems worth it to me. Or is this just terribly selfish? sigh.

Merry xmas all :)

Congrats on another boy....the pink thing is lovely, but having 2 boys to rough and tumble together will be even lovelier :) :) Fergus will love being a big brother

WWISA - rooting for you :)

LaT - go. Its one night, dh will cope, Daniel will survive and you will gain untold benefit from a catch-up with a close friend (and a few hours unbroken sleep)

Love to all...wishing everyone well over the festive season. I, for one, have eaten far too many mince pies and will be resuming my baby-weight-loss diet (18 months on, and the same bloody half stone left around my middle....sigh....) on Jan 3rd

Well, we've all had a bug over Christmas, starting with Danny vomiting all Christmas Eve so no trips for me. Just what we didn't need this Christmas.

laT I'm sorry you didn't get away - sorry for Danny too, hope things are improving.

filly - lovely to see you posting here, hope all is ok

I really should be trying to get some sleep, after a very bad night with Alice waking up. Having moved to not bringing her into bed, I'd forgotten that feeling of falling asleep with your face on the cot bars, yum. She did have two better nights preceding yesterday, and like you LaT I'm crossing my fingers it's a time-limited molar thing - Alice has the final one just poking through her gum. I thought that in comparison to molars, the canines (are those the next ones to come?) were meant to be a doddle, but I'm sure I saw a thread somewhere on MN recently where someone was saying that they are even more disruptive to toddlers. I do hope not.

Alice got a present of a doll and pushchair (my idea, after seeing a friend's child with one). It's already driving me mad, as 'baby' has to come everywhere and Alice keeps taking baby's hat off and then wanting it put back on, or for me to push the toy pushchair. Right, off to bed and hoping for a little more sleep. Happy New Year and very best wishes for 2012 to you all if I don't post again before the end of 31st.

LaT, that's awful. Hope you're all feeling a bit better now.

WWISA, I think Ruth might have to spend her Christmas money on a "baby" after literally fighting her cousin for his doll yesterday.

I can safely say, with no worry of jinxing now it's over, that we had 5 nights where Ruth slept through last week. Back to regular night wakings now though. She's been under the whether though, since boxing day, and off her food- a sure sign she isn't right.

It's a shame though, as we've had to avoid my dad who had his first round of this set of chemo last week.

Hope everyone has a good new year.

Barbeasty, I'm sorry, I hadn't picked up that your dad was having chemo, and I hope this round goes as ok as is possible.

Best wishes for 2012 to everyone. Alice slept for 9.5 hours last night, which amazed me. The previous two nights had been indescribable, and included me shouting at her to lie down at one point, which I'm really ashamed of. DH obviously thought I needed to be relieved, so he took over, only to come screaming out of the bedroom a few minutes later after Alice had whacked him in the eye with her sodding baby. Baby came to the library yesterday and I was hopeful that a friend's two-year-old might go off with her and her annoying buggy, but Miss A watched her like a hawk.

WWISA - Oh the hat takes me back! DD got her first doll around this age and I ended up hiding the hats and buying a knitted on from ebay that had ribbons to tie it n. I thoroughly recommend it.

Barbeasty - best wishes for your father.

Daniel has gone from being ace at night to needing me to sit by him and pat him to get him to sleep and then waking and coming into my bed. If I leave him, he is hysterical. He's also very clingy during the day which is very unlike him. I was thinking of it as a phase but it is dragging on now.

DD's birthday today and a very happy day had by all. I iced my first cake for her in the shape of a butterfly (a bit stylised) and I was very impressed with myself. I just have to handle her birthday party next week solo with no car as DH is away. Also, someone she is very keen on at nursery isn't coming as I didn't realise there were two girls with that name and the other one picked it up by accident. No way to fix it now.

Ah, the hat. yy. DD1 drove me bonkers with baby's hat at around this age....she loved baby so very much but the hat fell off on a regular basis and she couldn't do it herself. In fact, I ended up spending hours searching for a replacement 'baby' on ebay as I was terrified of her getting lost!

I'm glad we took the advice of the man in the toy shop then. He said to get the cheaper one without and clothes, because all they do at this age is take the clothes off anyway.

Baby now has to go everywhere Ruth does. We've had tantrums on the way to nursery, because the doll's been left at home, but she's spent lots of time there playing with other dolls.

Happy New Year everyone! I am happy to be back in a routine here after the little ones had 3 weeks off school. Zoe got a Dora the explorer beanie doll for Christmas which she loves, but she has also become quite partial to her brothers' Lightning McQueen cars and is really giving them a run for their money if there is tussle over a particular one. Feisty!
Filly I too am desperate to shift around 20lbs of baby weight and am in the right mind-set now to do it I think. Maybe we can help each other along..
Goodname lovely news that Fergus will have a little brother. He will love it. I hope you are feeling well... am quite jealous that I don't have another one on the way and that I may never again as 3 is about all I can handle at the moment.

Hope this new year is kind to us all... thinking of you Barbeasty and hope your Dad's treatment is going well.

Grr, Alice has joined LaT's Danny in the sleepless stakes. Why did I post about her fabulous night's sleep on NYE? It has been truly indescribable here since. I am so hoping it's down to teeth, as she was slowly but surely going in the right direction after we decided to put a stop to bf to sleep and night feeds. Last night she took 90 mins to get to sleep, including moving baby in and out of bed and taking her blanket on and off so many times I nearly lost my mind. I missed the first 10 mins of Sherlock and then to top it off, Alice woke at 1am, 2,30 and 4. I caved in and bf her back to sleep each time because she is demanding booby again. Then she woke at 6 and I let her come out her cot and into bed. We all napped again till 7 and the appearance of DS. I might post on the sleep thread but think I am too knackered to bother.

Also can I ask advice - Alice had a spot on her arm few weeks ago that multiplied to about 6 spots, slightly fluidy but not crusty. They dried out but actually I thought it was eczema and took her to GP, who said it looked like bacterial infection and prescribed fucidin. 3 weeks later it's not looking much better and I thought I'd get DH to take her to the GP tomorrow but wondered if any of your LOs had ever had similar. Not sure I really understand what it is or how you a child gets it. GP said something about impetigo - I think that it wasn't impetigo- but my DS chose that moment to start messing around so I later realised I hadn't asked any intelligent questions. It is not bothering Alice as far as I can tell, but I feel I should probably take her back.

DD had impetigo and it does sound similar but DD's spread realtively quickly. Did you go to the GP?

Daniel's sleeping has at least settled into a pattern but he is in bed with me most of the time and feeding again in the night which he hasn't done since very small. He is having a massive growth spurt though. he went up from a size 4 to a five shoe just over Christmas. He ate four bowls of minestrone soup for lunch plus a banana, cheese, crackers and a chocolate roll. He had carrots, tomato, cucumber, and two slices of pizza for dinner plus pudding, then milk and a cracker beofre bed. He is still pretty slim!

DIMB - another one with about 20lb to shift here. I'm doing the shred DVD most days for the last week but I'm having trouble not having snacks. I seem to be very hungry ATM. I'm trying to cut out bread and cheese mainly. What are you trying?

Just adding back on to list. Will read later.

Thanks LaT I don't think Alice has impetigo. DH took her to GP on Weds and she now has antibiotic cream with hydrocortisone. It hasn't spread and DH said diagnosis was still the same. She now has streaming cold and also has developed what I recall so well with DS - buggy refusal. She goes beserk when I try to strap her in and I can see people looking, trying to figure out what terrible thing is happening to this child. I have let her do loads of walking the last two days, which requires the patience of a saint, but our buggy stints have been harder work.

Alice ate loads today, I really couldn't believe it, but maybe it's a combination of a growth spurt and all that walking.

Hope you all have a good weekend

Hello LaT I am doing an exercise DVD called Physique 57 which is super tough so I'm assuming that if I stick to it there may be results. The trouble is - Zoe likes to climb over me a I'm doing it, so I really need to do it either in the morning before they wake up or in the evening after they have gone to bed. Not keen on either.. but really need to do something. I'm also eating very badly, but not sure Winter is the time to be cutting back..

WWISA I am there with you on the buggy refusal. I have to brace myself for the school run twice a day. Zoe is still not a great eater, but I now have hope after I found DS2 chomping down on one apple after another at the weekend after flatly refusing to touch apples for the first 2.5 years of his life - I had tried chopping them every which way to no avail, and now he just picks them out of the fruit bowl and digs in!

Hi all,

Dani is still being awful at night. DH is away at the moment, so I'm bearing the brunt of it. I think both DCs get anxious when DH is away too, which doesnt help sleeping.

I think he is going through a massive growth and developmental spurt. His language is really expaning and I swear to God he put together a three word sentence today. I put on a DVD of zoo animals that he likes and as I put it on the final credits were rolling so the screen went black after about 30 seconds. He looked realy upset and said very clearly, 'I'm watching it!' Maybe your DCs do things like that all the time but my jaw hit the floor.

Also today we were ar a friends house and a little girls' cup dropped on the floor. Danny was bumbling about so sort of as a joke I asked him to oick it up and give it to her and he did.

How are you all getting on?