June 10 babies are growing apace, teething and crawling all over the place.

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Here we are ladies. Let's see if we can manage to chat a bit more on this one :).

Hi, we are in sleepless hideousness still, too. Alice is on a spurt but not to the extent of putting 3 words together. She copies every word she hears and follows instructions - although only if she wants to. She and DS are creating so much mayhem and flood in the bath that I keep threatening to ban them from going in together. And the other milestone, which of course not every parent would celebrate, but WWISA definitely does - Alice is finally showing an interest in telly, which has revolutionised my life. She will watch a bit of cbeebies with DS in the morning, so I can make coffee and breakfast. It feels like a luxury after the constant following me around. Her favourite is 'oconaus' (not sure she can do 't's yet.

We still don't sleep through here. But on a good night we'll just be up for one 45 min feed .
He is getting very expressive and clearly thinks that he is talking to me in whole sentences, but it's all gobbledigook still! He has a 3 word sentence if you count 'more boo boo' (our term for a breastfeed) .
5th tooth part way out now - I assume we are behind everyone else with that still?
He is starting to settle himself to sleep at night time though, rather than be put down asleep, and he has the most adorable cheeky face that melts my heart!

Hello everyone. I've totally fallen off this thread, but just sw it pop up in active conversations so am all caught up now.

Alice ous generally sleeping pretty well now but has had a few disturbed nights because of teeth and colds recently.

She's completely refusing to go in the buggy at the moment but is actually managing pretty well with all the walking which is great. Alice was a newborn when dd1 went through that phase so at least it is easier than that!

Her speech is coming on really well and she says quite a few 3 word sentences and follows instructions really well. She takes a huge interest in the potty and announces every wee in get nappy so I think we might have a go at some potty training once the weather gets a but warmer.

Will try and keep up with the thread now!

At the moment a good night is when Ruth is only awake between 1 and 3, which doesn't go well with getting up at 5.30 for work. I'm just clinging to the fact that she can sleep better than this, and it will improve again.

She's good (generally) at going to bed though. If you ask, she insists she isn't tired, and doesn't want to go to bed. But all of a sudden she will declare that she's tired, and want to go up.

Ruth is good at following instructions- if she wants to do it. If she doesn't, she will just say no. She also says no if she's doing something she knows she shouldn't.

I think we're coming out of a bout of hating water. Who'd have thought that if you sat in the bath you'd get wet? That was Ruth's complaint last week. At the moment baths are mostly standing, but the continuous complaints at her swimming lesson has gone.

gosh it's been quiet on here again. I have to admit I've been distracted with issues to do with my DS for last week or so. He was intermittently viral Mon & Tue in that amazing, fas,t sickening / bouncing back way that small children sometimes have. He was off school yesterday but fine after vomiting / headache / call NHSDirect drama Tues night. He has just however shown me a mystery rash on his bottom, which I suspect is post-viral of some kind. I guess the question is whether CP is a possibility.

Alice has been sounding really hoarse today and coughing and she was very miserable last night, although I kept her in her cot (albeit with lots of 'let's keep the peace' bf-back-to-sleep). And I did wonder for a nano-second about what looked like a spot on her face... That aside she is suddenly noticeably less clingy and we had a lovely morning at DS's Reception Class open morning with 4 & 5 year-olds fighting over her, all of which she took in her stride. Those canines are only making the slowest of progress. Ho hum.

Hope all is well with all of you.

Hi all,

Danny has been ill with tonsilitis and a fungal rash on his bottom. Both were very sore. He was shaking with fear every time I changed his nappy moaning, 'bottom, bottom.' Poor dear. I'm now trying to get his sleeping to calm down, although in no very forceful or organised fashion. I don't really feel up to it and neither do I feel it would be very successful just now as there is so much going on for him. We could really all do with a good night's sleep though, so one day I will have to bite the bullet.

It seems more difficult to crack than it did before (he had been sleeping very well up to about early December). He really screams loudly now if I try to make him stay in his bed after the first waking and doesn't seem at all inclined to stop.

La T, that sounds horrible. I hope he's feeling better soon.

After being woken up every 2 hours last night, DH has conceded that Ruth sleeping through on Saturday night was a coincidence, and nothing to do with the nightlight he sneaked into the shopping. Her sleep was getting better, until she got another cold, but fingers crossed that last night was a one off.

She was pretty embarrassing on Sunday. We were changing after her swimming lesson, when she pointed at a topless lady next to us and shouted "milk". Thankfully the lady was engrossed in her conversation and didn't notice.

Barbeasty - if it had been Daniel, he might have blown raspberries on her, so I wouldn't worry!

Going for night weaning second time around now. He took it pretty well last night, which means he woke up lots to ask for it but didn't totally scream the place down when told no. A bit of a relief. He is adamant that he is not going to sleep in his own be though. 'No!' I was told very clearly when we discussed it this morning

Phew LaT glad Danny sounds as though he's getting better. I too will have to do night weaning for a second time. I don't think this is the week, as Alice is still awash with snot. After I posted last time she threw up at 4am and has waking up not long after going to bed and being inconsolable, so evenings are down the drain at the moment. Like Danny, when I ask her is she's going to sleep in Alice's bed she says no.

I was embarrassed on Saturday because I took her to get her feet checked, thinking she was having difficult phase about her shoes - but she's gone from 4-5 in 2 months, so no wonder she hated the old shoes. She carries the new ones everywhere and refuses to be parted from them. She is having an anti-bath phase, although I think will still go in with DS. But no chance tonight when it was just her. Meanwhile my wrists ache from carrying her because although she can walk very well, she often just stops and demands to be carried and that's it. Oh well, all these phases pass, but there do seem to be lot of phases on the go at the moment.

We had to do the shoe thing on Saturday too. Ruth had taken 5 months to go from 4-5, so not too bad. But my goodness, talk about throwing a strop! After 20 minutes of sobbing, we had to give up and go back later. Eventually she was happy trying on lots of pairs, but actually being measured was the last thing we managed.

We get told that Ruth doesn't want to go to bed when we ask, but normally shortly afterwards she will say she's tired and wants to go to bed.

Another one whose little one went up in shoe size overnight. in fact one had gone from 4 to 5.5 while he was ill and not out much over Christmas The poor little thing was actually walking on the sides of his, kind of like John Wayne, to try and accomodate them. Only once, I add rapidly.

It's mad, isn't it. We'd been popping in to get her feet measured every so often, and it was continuously about 4 weeks left, until this week.

We had a new one last night. It wasn't too bad sleep wise, she'd woken around midnight and 3.30. Then at about 4.30 there was some really upset crying. DH went to see what the problem was, and as soon as he walked in I just heard "spider".

Turns out she thought she'd seen a spider in her cot. I finally coaxed her back to her cot at 5.15, with all the lights on and checking the cot for spiders. Then my alarm went off at 5.30!

ugh.

I think I nearly choked Danny today He was in the garden and when he came n he was crying. This usually means, 'I want milk,; especially as he had been in the buggy for a while so I latched him on. He was stil unhappy and not really sucking so I took him off and he was completely white and his lips were blue! I thought he must have swallowed something in the garden so I put him on my knee and made him lean forward and he was sick. There didn't seem to be any obstruction though.

I now realise he was probably feeling very sick when he came in and holding him in a cradle position probably choked him.

Hi all, just saying "Hello" after goodness knows how long!

Everybody sounds as if they have very busy little bees on their hands!! Tilly is certainly very busy all of the time and to be honest it's bloody knackering .

Tilly does generally sleep all night but it's been a hard. As she doesn't have her own bedroom she still sleeps in our room, right next to my side of the bed infact, she was waking in the night expecting to come into our bed and it was very hard to ignore her when she was screaming right next to my head. DH and I would take it in turns to sleep on the sofa but we found we still weren't getting much sleep and both of us were on the whole shattered most of the time.

We have found a temporary solution which is to adapt her cot so that when I go to bed I can take the side off it. Basically Tilly is co-sleeping with me. It is working for the moment as I can gently slide her back into her bed without disturbing her and DH and I have actually got some room to spread out .

Not really sure what we're going to do in the long term. DD1 is now 12 and at secondary school. If I put Tilly in with her (would have to be when Tilly is in a bed and they would have bunk beds) she would have to vacate her room at 7.30pm. Not much fun for an almost teenager. DS only has a box room and it would be physically impossible to fit Tilly in the same room. DD1 at the moment is refusing point blank to switch rooms and to be honest I don't think her furniture would fit into the box room anyhow.

So I'm left forever scratching my head about the situation. If we have another one (DH wants to) that moves us into the realms of needing a whole new house and I really do not want to think about that.

As for words and talking, Tilly says things like "there you go", "who is it?", "where is it?". She generally says things like car, shoes, juice, snack, bye bye, hello, hiya etc etc. Funnily enough we know another little girl who was born on the same day as Tilly and she doesn't say very many words at all but you can have a 5 minute conversation with her where she talks absolute gobboldy gook! Funny how they all come on at their own pace.

Hi all, another one here who has not been on for a while. We have had internet problems at home and am too busy at work to go on mumsnet at the mo (shocking).
Getting quite far into my pregnancy just now, only 3 months to go til no.2 pops out so I am starting to get a little anxious over how I will cope with two as Fergus seems to need constant attention and playing with. His speech is pretty good (he can sing ba ba black sheep right through and repeats most things you say) and he is so much fun just now (unless he is tired) that I feel quite sad about no 2 coming and taking over our time together.

We are also still having sleep problems with fergus altho took him to see cranial sacral guy on Friday and his sleep has improved since. Before he was up 6-10 times a night just briefly but now its down to about 2-3. He is never awake long but needs a cuddle to get back to sleep. We moved him into his own room last week but dad is still sleeping in with him on a double mattress just now. Supposed to be moving him into his cot with strictly no cuddles etc at night tonight as dh off for a few days but cannot imgine how it is going to go. He has barely ever slept in the cot, much prefering to be in with us . Really have to sort out out before DS2 comes along and they are waking each other up all night.
Fergus went thru a hating bath stage recently but now we cant get him out. I think what helped was going in with him in the big bath a couple of times and letting him have a bath in the baby bath in front of the fire a few times as well. Now he would stay in for hours even when the water gets freezing.
Hope everyone else is getting on better with their sleeping monsters

Hello everyone. I've been a bit distracted with a big case of the terrible 3s with DS2. He is doing better now and so I feel ready to tackle the feeding problem with Zoe. She still drinks milk out of a bottle and my sons both did that until they we're over 2 years, but Zoe bites the teets and I am getting tired of having leaky bottles or having to fork out for new ones. Someone recommended a sippy cup with a straw which I will try, but I think I may have to just do the 3-day cold turkey that worked with the boys. It will be nice to get it done and she is cough-free and not teething at the moment. She is also very lazy with the spoon and the fork, so any tips on how to encourage this would be much appreciated.
good name I am very excited that you will be meeting your little one very soon!

just getting back on - will be back tomorrow!

It is quiet here. Do you think we'll make it to 3 on this thread?

DH decided to turn Ruth's cot bed into a bed on Saturday, and I have to say that so far I have been pleasantly surprised. She's only fallen out once, and tends not to get out unless we turn a light on (I realise that's it now and she'll be a nightmare because I posted). She was so pleased when he changed it, being able to climb in herself.

We moved her toy box up there too, the theory being that she can get up and play if she wakes up when we're busy getting up etc. But is it any tidier downstairs? Of course, she is just making fewer toys go further in terms of making a mess!

Hope you're all ok, and no posting is good news.

Still here! Just want to check in and marvel at how our babies are nearly 2...incredible!

I'm considering putting D in a bed (taking the sides off his cot) but am worried about making his sleep worse. He usually wakes once, but then has to come in to bed with me or he screams for ... well I don't know how long for because I've not left him that long. He seems pretty keen on having a bed like DDs but I wonder if there is any advantage in waitinng until he's two in terms of understanding?

We're thinking of putting him in nursery for a couple of mornings. I don't need him to go in but he really wants to go to DD's preschool - he picks up his shoes and stands at the dorr saying 'scoo! scoo!'. He just seems to need more than just home and groups maybe because he was so little when he started walking he needs ssomething new to explore now. With DD she was 17 months when she started walking so she had a whole new range of experiences at that age but Danny has already done those things. I was very sure about it but less so today.

Also was wondering who on here was still bf, if anybody?

DIMB - would she like to think of herself as being big like DS? o one I know ever got on with a doidy cup. I use Avet ones but D will drink out of anything as long as DD is too.

Goodname - very exciting about baby! What does the osteopath say about Fergus?

I never got on with a Doidy cup either

Nice to hear from various people who I've been wondering about for a while (a long while in your case mampam. )

LaT I still bf and I am very torn about when to stop. Alice is still crazy for it and it makes life very difficult for DH when he's in charge at bedtime. I keep hoping she'll just lose interest and when we're out it's fine because she doesn't usually ask. But at home it's incessant. On the older sibling / school thing - she was inconsolable (so much so and for so long that I was beginning to panic) a few Thursdays ago - then I figured out a possible cause - the previous Thurs there had been an open morning in DS's Reception class, and Alice had been the focus of so much attention from the children and totally taken it in her stride. The inconsolable event happened as we dropped DS off at his classroom and I'm now pretty sure that 'school envy' was part of it.

I too am wondering about a bed for Alice, she seems to hate the restriction of the cot in a way DS never did and also, if she's moving to her own room (scheduled for end of March) then I think it might be best if she could get up and come and find me & DH. A colleague was telling me about his daughter who is a month older than Alice, who just gets up in the morning and plays happily with the toys and drinks the water left by her cot. It's a stark contrast to our days which start with much shouting of 'mummy - booby!'. Aagh.

I'm still breast feeding too. Also mostly at home, although she will ask when we're out. Thankfully just saying milk. I've sort of promised DH that we'll stop when Ruth is 2 (partly because he was put of by his cousin who bf her youngest until 4, and partly because we're still ttc and would like a gap so Ruth doesn't realise what she's missing)

We don't get playing with toys, unless she's left in her room for some time after she wakes up. She stays in bed until the landing light is switched on, or if it's daylight, when she cries for a while before giving up and playing. We keep her shut in her room with a gate on her doorway, because there isn't a gate on the stairs.

Daniel is still crazy for it too. I've had some negative comments about it recently, and while it hasn't changed my mind about it it does make me question how much my decisions about his feeding are guided by societal pressure. I'm never that keen on feeding him when we're out. Why not? Because it's an oddity and I know it.

At the moment, I'm trying not to let him feed every time I sit down. It's just such a habit with him. While this is something I want, I am now at least questioning myself about my motivations and whether they are really mine or sommeone else's.

Why would someone else feeding til 4 put your dh off you feeding past 2 barbeasty? I don't get it .
It should be no surprise that I too am still bfing. I'm still bfing his older (3.4yr) brother too. Still a way to go to be up with their sister, who fed til 4.

One or two of mine got on well with a doidy cup. Although I stopped using when they found it too much fun to empty over their dinner.

We're up to 6 teeth now. But still not sleeping through, and I have absolutely no intention of turning his cot into a bed any time soon! Still only a handful (as in no more than 5) of words.