January 2011

[MacMomo]

Thought we should have a post-natal thread so we can stay together from our ante-natal one. Technically, DD was a December baby after coming early on new years eve; hope you don't mind if I stay with the January group after all this time. How is everyone doing?

walk similar yes! Dh slept in separate room until 3 weeks ago, now he's on a 9 month residential course and I only see him at weekends, when he still sleeps in separate room. No point both of us getting no sleep!

cadle yay! Where are you going to live? I'm from Perth.

cadle congratulations!

walk have you got any extra hours to send? Sounds like we're all suffering a bit at the moment!

DS2 has 2 teeth at the bottom now but getting them through doesn't seem to have helped with sleep as much as I thought it would. I'm too tired to even attempt anything like giving water instead of feeding at night, so no chance of improving things at the moment.

yep pelvic I often get an extra hour during the day now as DD really can't cope with me not being near at hand, I aim to take her up to bed, at least once a day , once she is asleep I settle down with laptop/telly/book/knitting and end up dozing off. And nighttime actually I am now coping with as I can stay half asleep while she feeds since we co-sleep, except the nights like tonight when I am wide awake and feel like I have a hot flush

had a bit of a odd thing for a few days last and this week, feeling like the beginnings of pg, wondering if it is maybe period but not actually having one yet. Made me realise that I am def not ready for no 2 yet!

tough going with DH being away mac, the nights DH is late or away are much tougher to get everything done, esp now DD is on the move, I really must get the hang of back carries. And our dog doesn't like not getting her wee walk with DH after DD has had her bath, she sits and sulks at me as I dry DD, even though we go for two walks every day (spoilt she gets two from DH too!!!)

How often are you seeing HV? Anyone discussed/thoughts on flu vac?

DS2 has managed 2 nights of 10-5 sleep, quick feed and back to sleep til about 7, this is huge progress from what he was doing and I'm finally starting to feel more human. He has got 4 teeth now and I'm not sure if cutting the top ones has made the difference but whatever the reason, I'm happy (and making the most of it as it probably won't last)!

DS2 also did his first wave today in response to DS1, it was adorable watching them both waving and grinning at each other!

so is DS2 still sleeping pelvic-spooky DD teeth are giving her a grim time on/off, will be a great day when those top two are finally through.

How cute that waving must be

DD has learn to crawl forward, has been bottom bouncing and backward crawling. No stopping her now! Also pulling or pushing up to stand whenever able to. Glad she has a cloth nappy to soften all those landings as she learns how to fold in the middle to sit back down.

Oh and she has learned to clap and is so pleased she can do it. We are doing baby sign, but she has only done dog so maybe this might get her using her hands more

Unfortunately the sleeping was a 3 day wonder! Normal service has been resumed again with regular wake-ups throughout the night and rubbish daytime sleeps. DS2 has teeth appearing everywhere and a lot of very sore looking bits on his gums where they can't have far to go.

Well done DD clapping walk, I love this stage where there seems to be a new skill practically every day.

Hey walk how's the back carries coming along? I managed a few rubbish ones last week, think I'm getting better/less dangerous. I agree with the cloth nappy cushion for all the falling onto bottoms, have thought it must help as sometimes she goes down very hard.

Sleep fairly bad here still. Have migrated to double mattress on floor with room babyproofed (ie empty). Now we go to bed, boob and then snuggle down. If she won't settle I ignore her while she buggers about. Eventually she come back and snuggles in and passes out. Not much good for seeing dh but fewer tears. When she's asleep I go downstairs, if I'm still awake. I'd sell my soul for her to start sleeping well.

Any first words yet?

[grin]@baby buggering about!!

We have one tooth now, crawling and pulling up. Not managed a wave yet but have mastered clapping.
She has also learnt to shake her head - it's amazingly cute!

Very impressed with sign language.

I stopped bf as soon as the tooth appeared!

At least you had 3 lovely nights pelvic and hope those teeth come in fast. I can't believe that my mum said my brother and I were at least 10 months before we had our first teeth (it was after we were walking) and they gave us no bother!

cadlecrap I read that babies either waved or clapped but can't learn both??? Sounds a bit weird to me and it wasn't a reliable source. Pretty sure DD occ waves when we say "bye bye to the supermarket" (it is where our bus stop is and say it as we leave to come home)- yeh odd pair we are . Even if you don't want to do baby sign, I think eveyone should teach their LO the sign for dog, it is so cute, kind of a down point with both hands, tongue out and a pant noise. DD now even does it if she sees a dog (or fox) in a book - PMM

macmomo sounding a bit more easier in the evenings at times. At least you know that your DD can do her roaming and not worry about her falling too far. Can your DH come and be with you both too and then at least you can spend some time with him. We keep DD in living room until I know she needs to go to bed/chill out. How long it takes to settle varies from her I am sleepy and need to sleep, but I am not quite ready to sleep yet phase - 2 hours it took tonight - mind you DH came in after an hour, she was almost asleep, I came back 15min later, he was watching telly, singing to her and surprise surprise she was sitting up, bouncing along

Back carries are still very much a work in progress. I like carrying her in front so I only really need it for when I am doing somethings, and often could get away with hip carries. I am still very much a do it next to sofa/bed and that is with my SSC or MT and still not really got it, once mastered that I might try with a wrap. I know they say do it with a big teddy, but a teddy is nothing like my arms out, wiggling, nosey, ooh pull that strap daughter!

oh meant to say cadlecrap I got 2 nips when DD second tooth came in. Been told not to react, remove nipple. She hasn't done it again so far. Top teeth might be a bit more of an issue, but hoping we can get a bite free latch.

walk that's really interesting about the waving and clapping, DS1 was very late to clap and quite a few of DS2's age group seem to have mastered clapping. I thought my boys were just a bit slow but maybe they've both been too busy waving! DS2 grins like anything if you clap at him but hasn't the slightest interest in doing it himself.

I do back carries in the patapum (SSC), I miss having DS2 on my front where I could chat to him but he's too heavy now, I feel quite confident getting him in and out but it does seem to make spectators nervous.

DS2 has bitten me quite a few times , DS1 only ever did it once so it's been a rather unpleasant surprise. I've been removing him every time he does it and I think he's getting the idea now, definitely don't want to speak too soon.

Hello everyone, good to hear all the news. Lurk frequently but somehow take ages to get around to posting!
Exciting news for cadle! are you definitely going to go?? When? Wow, whole new life!
We have a waver here, with no sign of clapping. How funny. So enjoying ds being on the move, he and dd chase each other on their hands and knees from room to room shrieking with excitement. He's started bulldozing his way through her games though and she's less impressed with that! He's on his third tooth and has been doing SIX poos a day for the past ten days which I'm putting down to teething - does this sound likely d'you think? His wee bottom is really sore with all the constant action!
Sympathies for the night wakings. It is totally amazing what your body can get used to but it is TOUGH. Am being driven mad just now as ds sleeps through but I have awful insomnia, averaging about 2 hours sleep a night at the moment (while he sleeps blissfully next door). I would almost rather he was up keeping me company!
I did baby signing classes with dd and it was wonderful. They don't run any more and I haven't taught them to ds but have been almost spooked that he signs 'milk' when he's generally hungry and 'more' in appropriate situations. Weird!! I read about this on another thread and the OP was slated!! Are the rest of you going to classes or just teaching from your own knowledge? And Mr Tumble of course :) - my dd loves him!

Hi everyone, also been lurking for a while but madness of being back at uni means after having a quick read its time to do something else.
we're waving here too but no clapping, I wonder if theres truth to that, how strange! :) DS also shaking his head when has had enough food or doesn't want to do something, no words yet but have a feeling the first one may be no. Hes been crawling for a while and has started cruising this week which he thinks is brilliant. Also discovered yesterday he can climb the stairs!! My Dh told me the story as though it was perfectly fine that hed walked past the stairs to find DS sat halfway up!! I nearly had a panic attack just thinking about it. So on the search for very narrow stair gates. any ideas?

Still not fully sleeping through here, varying between one wake up (usually about 4) to 4 in the night but think hes teething as well. beat weve been having 5 poos a day hadnt even thought it could be due to teething bt tht does add up here.

Baby sign sounds so gorgeous and such a good idea but wouldnt even know where to start.

Got to rush off as am currently using MN as procrastination for my first exam tomorrow! aahh!

Lovely to hear everyones news.

We have a new skill... pointing!! I'm not sure if it IS actually pointing or if she just likes holding her hand like that . Either way it is very cute!

cadle pointing started a couple of days ago here, it's so cute

how did the exam go hannah? There are some babysign websites that might give you some pointers. We are just doing it ourselves. Have tried to do just a few words - dog, milk, more, finished, duck, walk - seemingly if you do to many it can slow the learning down. She can still only do dog, but this week has made up her own way of saying she wants her water (a sort of lapping).

argh stair climbing! We have a stair gate at top of stairs but not at bottom (bit difficult to fix one, but she can't get to them herself, I'll worry about it once she can open the door! - hope by then she is safe on the stairs). We are needing to get radiator covers - I never thought of that until she went to lean on one, we've had to turn them on for a short time tonight, so better get the covers ASAP.

We aren't having loads of poos just loose ones. We mange to get her to poo on the potty most of the time so I am not having to flush clean cloth liners too many times, thankfully. (Not potty training, just when I know she is just awya to poo, sit her on the potty, it seems to also be easier for her). Not sure if it's teething or a reaction to different water - we were away for a weeks holiday.

beat do you think the insomina is hormonal? Some nights I am so wide awake.

hope not too much biting pelvic. Have had a couple more from DD, but always at the end of a feed when her gums are bothering her.

My parents are coming for a few days. We have skyped but they haven't seen DD for over 2 months and she has changed so much in that time. Not loking forward to my mum's opinions on DD not being able to sleep without me being next to her, but I'll just ignore those bits and enjoy them being here. My biggest problem is that my brothers DS is so easy going, he will settle with anyone, sleep all night 7-8, in his own room since very young, almost never grumbles, will eat masses that he spoonfed (so doesn't make a mess). My DD is pretty much the opposite! They've babysat my nephew a few times, and have even fed, bathed and put to bed. There is no way they could do that with DD, she can only last 30 min max playtime with DH (and that is when she is in the right frame of mind!), feed and bathe she would be OK with, but bedtime no way. I do worry if/when my brother's baby 2 arrives, that they have a baby more like our DD, they really won't know what has hit them.

[hsmile] doing anything for Halloween? I have a cut bat sleepsuit that I got while I was pg in last years post Halloween sales.

walk however it happens I'm impressed with getting poos in the potty already, that's got to be easier than all the washing and I'm sure it will help when it comes to actual potty training!
Definitely less biting here, I think the last lot of teeth breaking through has improved matters.

DS2 has managed to get 2 stairs up before falling over backwards, would have been nasty if I hadn't been there to catch him. We still have stairgates from DS1 but remembering to shut them is a problem, definitely need to get better with it quickly!

Well done all the pointing babies!

Hi guys,

Sorry for taking so long to get back to you all. I don't know where the weeks are going - have to start thinking about work soon!

Well we have clapping, waving and pointing but absolutely no movement at all! At this age DD1 was unstoppable but DD2 likes to sit and watch the world go by. She doesn't move an inch - no crawling, shuffling, shoogling, anything!! Long may it continue - lol.

And on that note she is awake and howling! Lovely to read about all the little ones!

xx

pelvic yep so nice to not have poo nappies, but DD has this week become a poo just before she wakes up girl - grr! DH and I were wondering how your body lets you do that as a baby and then not as you get older. Can't say that about peeing as I have caught a few guys sleep peeing or just pre pee - one new years three guys were at it in my brothers' flat- hmm, we handed them each cleaning stuff the next day.

Yikes re stair tumbling. Had two sets of workmen here (long story) and DD was loving watching them go up the ladders. Sure she'd try to follow if I let her near them.

blanche be interesting to see if DD2 is like that when she is older, just taking it all in and feeling no need to rush around.

parent's visit went well, my dad is still here. Happened to be out for a walk when they arrived, dog got very waggy as soon as she saw them and DD also started to grin (she does the opposite when she sees my inlaws!) My folks are great with DD, they do silly things, get down on the floor with her etc. Found out that my parents almost co-slept with me and then my brother, they had the cot with side off and right next to bed and this was well into toddlerhood. Dad told me after mum was saying to my DD " you should be in your own bed and time you went to your uncles to be trained"

Very impressed with poo in potty. L tried "elimination comunication" with Ds but gave up as I couldn't be arsed went back to work.

Glad all babies are doing well.

We are just about to put our house on the market in preperation for our move to Oz. I am going to have to be ruthless when having a clear our - we are NOT taking all the teddy bears with us!

I hope everyone's just gone quiet because things are going well!

cadle very exciting about move to oz, hope all goes well selling the house.

All going well here, DS2 gets more adorable by the day and DS1 is totally obsessed with him these days. It's a huge improvement, when DS2 first started crawling DS1 started pushing him a lot and I couldn't leave them alone for a second. Now DS1 keeps asking where DS2 is, what he's doing, if he'd like a toy, whether he wants to wake up and play (not quite so enthusiastic about this one as it tends to come with a gentle prod to get him up and playing), if he wants something to eat, when he's going to say something....

Sleep still crap but I'm used to it now!

Hi all, Hannah here, changed name. All going well here, DS being very gorgeous too. were crawling and cruising but no sign of letting go of the furniture yet. Hes also learnt to clap and do high 5s which DH is very proud of. :)

Had a bit of a nightmare week with regards to sleep as hes had 4 teeth coming through on top all at once poor thing so hes not been very well. All through now though which brings total tooth count up to 6 making dinner times slightly less messy as he can bite things off rather than chewing them to mush.

Anyone had any words yet? weve had meaningful babbles as in mamama whilst grabbing for me or DH but nothing coherent yet.

Hope all babes are doing well, looking forward to hearing of more firsts

Pink 4 teeth on top!! Wow! We have only the 2 bottom ones.

I think we've had a word. "No" while shaking her head and refusing food. DD said it to me and the childminder also commented on it - so it's not just my imagination.

Just my luck - nearly 11 months old and already stubborn

Cadle - 'no' was DS1's first proper word said with meaning and feeling! Not til later than 11 months though so your DD must be even more determined to make her wishes known.

No real words here but one of DS2's noises sounds very much like 'yeah', I'm absolutely certain it's just a variation on 'ga', 'ba', 'ma' etc but he sometimes manages to time it just right. He came out with it when I was leaving playgroup the other day. He was trying to use the buggy as a walker, I was about to put him in it and he was resisting the idea of letting go at the back. So I jokingly said 'would you rather walk home?' and he said 'yeah' and strolled off! Was a very funny moment but I don't think he really means it just yet...

haha Cadle that made me laugh, we've got the shaking the head but thankfully no no yet although f hes anythng like me or DH hes bound to be extremely stubborn.

Have had an eventful evening tonight with DS standing for the first time alone. he just grabbed a book off the table and stood holding it. I panicked,thinking he was about to fall into the fire place, and basically knocked him over trying to catch him before he fell. Only for him to get back up and do it again for DH. Very exciting but means moving everything up another level :)

He was also caught climbing a bookcase at nursery today and "sharing" his socks with a younger child by putting them in its mouth

Apart from a mild case of hand foot and mouth (another illness caught from nursery) am loving this stage, busy but lots of fun.

hi guys
another "no" here, DD tends to string them togther, so says "no,no,no,no,no"! Her first real word was "Hi", which she uses when she sees a phone or one of us comes into the room - tending to do that a little less now. Loads of other talking, sometimes words and she can be quite good at mimicing.

pinkbutton nice name Hannah. Hee hee, re nursery incidents, your DS and mine should get together, she gets up to those things too

DD is now walking. I was very stubborn in not pushing/assisting her - blame my physio training and my dodgy over supple joints ( that she will likely have) - her standing has been great for a while, she did a little cruising and now just getting steadier every day.

She is still very mummy oreintated, can last max 30mins with DH and managed that with my mum or dad when they had been here for a while. She still has problems sleeping, wakens loads, and often needs to youch some part of me or actually be on me. Anyone else got a late bedder? DD is wide awake and full of beans until 10pm, no matter what! We can be up at 730am, she usually only has one nap (45min to occ 3hrs). I get very little done!!!

DH best friend is in hosp, recovering from a major op, waiting for results, but we are all pretty sure we know. So please, any men you know (or women) remind them not to ignore symptoms and go see their GPs, and pester them if they think they are getting fobbed off.