August 2010 - new thread ladies!

[Chulita]

New thread cos we've nearly filled the last one!

I figured by giving it it to him to play with i was technically not starting weaning

By the way would you be annoyed by this:

Dhs ex girlfriend has requested him on facebook which on itself isn't a problem as I have my two long term exes on there
She sent him a message ages ago saying she couldn't be friends with him on there as her Dh wouldn't like it.
Now she has popped back up in her maiden name and is fb friends with him which is all a bit suss..
I asked him today if she d made more contact with him he replied yes but I'm not telling you what or you ll get the hump ..
Asked him again he said same. Now I'm wondering WTF she's been saying??
Dh is a notorious wind up merchant so theoretically could be winding me up about whole thing..
But I dont think so

Well, it would piss me off either way tbh.

gya that would piss me right off too. Can't you see his wall posts?

alice fwiw DD was a 'trouble' baby and weaning made no difference to her awful sleeping patterns even though she was a brilliant eater. S is nearly 22 weeks but I'm not weaning yet, he just doesn't seem ready. He's sitting up quite happily in his bumbo, reaching for stuff and putting it straight in his mouth, watching us eat etc but he seems happy with milk and his 3 feeds a night I'm not convinced that food can change a baby's natural sleep preferences. But then neither of mine have slept through from an early age, the longest S has done is 5 hours in the evening a couple of times.

marzipan I still have trouble feeding on the right side, still got that freaking milk blister but it's not as painful as it was. It hurts after a long feed and right when he latches on but otherwise it's not so bad.

I think you're right Chulita - that if your baby is not a good sleeper then food isnt going to do anything to help. Only controlled crying can do that . Daniel is exactly same - very content with milk atm but sitting up in his bumbo and reaching for things (signs of being 4m old!). He is only 20wks (I think) so plenty of time yet. He also spits out Calpol which I think is a sign that it is too early to wean (when they still have the tongue thrust which spits out anything that goes in their mouth).

Yea, see he swallowed a spoonful of Calpol yesterday and was looking for more but milk still satisfies him so I'm not worried about weaning yet! And yes to the CC, had to do that with DD in the end.

Hi all,

Just popping on for a quick 'Happy Christmas' post, as we're off to my parents then ILs tomorrow, and I probably won't get a chance to post again until we get home. To be honest, it's not feeling like a terribly happy Christmas here at the moment - having thought I'd finally got everybody healthy again, the day before yesterday I came down with a bug myself (high temp, nasty cough), and today it looks like DS1 has got it too. Plus S has been really off his milk and very grizzly for the last couple of days, so I fear he might have something as well... I'm just feeling really worn down at the moment - children are ill, house is a tip, haven't been outside for days, and S is waking at 5am every morning for a little chat.... Looking forward to a few days away, where at least the family can do a bit of the childcare.

Anyway, sorry to be depressing. Really just wanted to say that I hope everyone has a lovely Christmas.

Also, cazandbelle, if you're still reading, I wanted to say that I'll be thinking of you lots over Christmas - it must be so hard. I hope this Christmas can still be special for you in its own way xx

Ay oop, ladies.

marzipan Breastfeeding is back to going well if you look at it in terms of pain only..it's blissful to be pain free again & that's really the only factor I consider beyond A getting enough. The rest - the endless feeding at the moment..10pm, 12.30, 2am then 4.08am until 9.26am (to the minute) when I finally had enough of his constant rooting & took him through to DH, I just take as par for the course although I do feel that I'm going backward at the moment & that's us stuck with increasing wakefulness until weaning which, as this has been going in for a couple of weeks, I think he's ready for & I'm going to ignore until 26wks if possible through sheer bloodymindedness...was bit to hear food in their tummies won't necessarily make them sleep through as i'd been clinging onto that as a life raft. Having said all that, I do hope to get to bf for a year now as we love it, I can eat cake until its coming out my nose without any weight gain & A has put on a whopping 2lb1oz in the last 3 weeks. But those stories of grabbing bananas & trying him in his high chair with his cup sound very familiar...I wonder if we'll make it to 26weeks? Bounciness is going great guns here too - the FP jumperoo is the best thing ever.

Off to get the milk bar out again. I'll lie there and think of chocolate roulade with fresh cream. Oh and has anyone else indulged in those mini macaroons from M&S. I ate a whole box to myself last night. I need to make some.

gya would piss me off slightly, but would depend on individual circs I guess...an old boyfriend contacted me, we exchanged a couple of emails which i showed DH & i declined to meet up with him...all ok by DH.Not unreasonable to ask to see the message if it has freaked you & you don't trust her. Perfectly natural to do a bit of soul searching & catching up with old griends post divorce if it's an innocent 'hi how are you?, congrats on the baby' but another thing if she's telling him he was the best thing that ever happened to her..

And Merry Christmas to everyone that's disappearing into the family vortex & won't be around. We're off on our travels too tomorrow. Can't wait to have people around who will see changing nappies & bathtimes as a real treat. Im hoping to loll on the sofa by the fire like the Queen of Sheba & eat Rose & violet creams, drink homemade Baileys & watch Christmas films whilst the rellies hog the baby. That would make me very happy.

No posts on his wall or messages from her either. I am going to ask him again today but doubt I'll get anymore than I did yesterday I do trust him and also she lives far away from us so v unlikely anything could happen anyway.
I just would like to know what's been said,I also knew her so it would be a bit out of order of her to suggest anything to him.
It's just hard when I'm home doing the lions share of caring for 3 kids and he's out here there and everywhere till middle of the night in his cab. I don't like the thought of her contacting him really.
On the plus side though T did wake a fair bit in the night her last feed was 630pm and her first is now. So no night feeds yay
Out for dinner with friends tonight yippee

Yo, yo, ladies - good luck to everyone gearing up for their holiday travels. Still relieved to hear that others are up all night feeding too - night before last, E woke up every hour to feed. Then only slept an hour and a half all day yesterday, despite me running around desperately trying to finish off Christmas shopping whilst simultaneously having a nervous breakdown. I think this is the hardest it's been since the early days (i.e. I sat down next to our tree and had an indulgent weep before DH got home last night). But last night we were back to the manageable 8pm-9pm feed, then midnight, 1.50am, 4am, 6am... Wow, our good night still sounds rubbish written down!

Ho hum, at least DH will have some time off soon and we can both try and work on giving E a more structured day (which will hopefully lead to a better night).

Anyway, much love to you all for the hols - particularly Caz. Xx

weehector 26 weeks is a guideline, not a fixed date imo. I mean it's not like the baby's not ready the day before 26 weeks and amazingly is ready for solids the next day. We started DD on solids around 22 weeks just cos she seemed ready. She took to food very quickly too. S just doesn't seem as ready (although it might be cos I'm loving him being so little :) )
gya well done T! ;)
Keep 6 months in mind, they do start settling down a bit more (on the whole) as they get older and the 4/5 month growth spurt is hard work but they will get through it, S is out the other side after a very long few weeks of constant feeding.

elusive sorry to hear about all the poorliness.

WRT weaning, I don't think Elodie is anywhere near ready but then she's only 17 weeks. I gave her calpol the other day and very little of that went down. The teething gel, on the other hand, she seemed to rather like, was quite impressed by almost instant effect.

weehector yum to home made baileys but to your recent feeding schedule (you too nat). I had a pretty awful night last night but by those standards it wasn't too bad. E slept 9pm til 1am then from 1am to 4am I just could not get her back to sleep. I think in that time I fed her off both breasts twice, cuddled her to sleep three times but every time I put her back in the cot she either immediately woke up or woke up maybe 10 mins earlier. Eventually gave up and took her into bed. Feel like a zombie today...

10 mins later that is, I don't have an amazing baby who can travel through time.

we travelled down to my parents last night - first night away from home for J and he would not sleep in the cot so i had him in bed with me and managed to get a semi reasonable amount of sleep. Getting very tired of the frequent wakings and can't seem to get rid of this lingering cold. Mum, Dad and DH are about to take him out for a walk so i might have a nap.

Happy Christmas everyone and here's to more sleep for all!

Totally sympathise with the exhausted mums - it only takes a couple of night wakings over a few days to get me very tired. Daniel usually stays up in the evenings, but last night he fell asleep at 6.30pm for 2hrs, so I tried to keep him upstairs. I fed him and left him to cry for 20mins, fed again, left again, fed again, left, eventually he went back to sleep at 9.30 and woke at 1.30, 6, then I woke him when I got up at 8.20 (well done the twins for playing in their room so I could get more kip!). I still feel pretty shattered though.

Elusive, sounds like you are really struggling.Hope you are all better soon.

Weehector just follow your LO's lead with weaning. I think they will sleep better if you feed them the right stuff! A little bit of controlled crying goes a long way too altho I know some people don't like it.

So jealous of everyone who will have loads of Christmas helpers on hand! I have three sisters and three of us have babies under 1, plus my sister in law has 5mo twins, so babies will pretty much outnmber willing helpers wherever we go this Christmas! I think it's a bonus just having DH to help cos he works such long hours he's not around to help much except at weekends and holidays

marzi, we use a proper cot mattress in our travel cot cos they never slept well on the normal cot mattress, it's a bit hard and thin. It's not very practical to take the cot mattress with you (takes up a lot of room in the car!) but they do sleep better on it.

Was thinking (in the middle of the night) that there are few things that divide opinions like child rearing!

Marzi i use a thick towel under the sheet of a travel cot to make it a bit comfier and absorbs dribble too.

Wow Neenz that is a lot of babies!

Hope everyone has a lovely christmas, and that these babies behave themselves

Really must get on with tidying this hovel while the children are quiet...

Got him down in the cot! Doubt he'll stay in it all night but it's progress. Been a nightmare with naps today though - glad my parents are very chilled out and understanding! (quakes at staying with PIL soon)
My parents have got a proper cot so it's a comfy mattress - just think all the travel and extra people have unsettled him
at the number of babies in your family neenz. Sounds like fun (hopefully!)

Hellooooo from way up here in the frozen North! Did a last minute change of plan dash north last Wednesday to avoid the snow - so glad we did! ( but it has meant a whole 5 extra days with PIL to piss me off).

Think I've finally caught up with the thread. Phew! Lots of weaning chat - must admit I've been quite tempted to try G with a bit of banana. But think I'll just wait. Only 4 weeks until the magical 6 months!

Darn, I've now forgotten everything else I read and am on the iPhone so too much effort to scroll back! Sorry girls.

Hope everyone else survives the sleepless nights and interfering relatives. I've just about had enough and dh had better get his backside to the shops tomorrow to purchase something sparkly or shiney or there will be serious trouble!

Mil driving mebonkers, serious lack of sleep and strange bed do not make for a happy blueberry!

But on the plus side, feel like a new woman after a haircut, eyebrow wax and reflexology. Off for an hour in a flotation tank/room tomorrow - bit apprehensive! Not sure they'll have enough salt (or whatever they use ) to make my lard ass float

(but have hired a treadmill for dh for his Xmas, so will run those lbs off!)

Merry Christmas to all

sorry not been around lately, Mum came over last Sunday and is staying until New Year so been busy sightseeing etc.

For all those talking about weaning and sleepless nights, my DS has recently gone through a spate of not sleeping. He was in routine of bath and 3 fl oz at 7.30pm, sleep by 8pm and waking about 6 am. Even though BF, his night feed is EBM, so that his daddy can feed him. Well my DS is now only 18 weeks, but 2 weeks ago, he stopped sleeping through, waking about 2 am, he is now a really hungry monster and eats 6 fl oz at 7.30pm and he has started sleeping through again. So it may just be upping their milk intake and not solids, I know that is easier said then done when BF ( I now have to express twice a day as i cannot express 6 oz in one go). Sorry to be controversial, and I don't mean to put anyone off weaning, but I know my DS isn't ready yet, and all it took was an incease in his milk. It took me a few nights to get the amount right and then it took a few more nights for him to get use to eating so much.

Anyway Merry Christmas to everyone and I hope we all have a wonderful time, it's my first as a Mummy and I intend to enjoy every minute of it, bought my LO a santa outift to wear

Hope everyone had a fab christmas with their babies

Well, we started F on babyrice yesterday. I know many will disagree, but it is what we needed to do. TBH, he is just not keeping the milk down. He is feedng so much, but a lot comes back up again, is waking 4-5 times a night (despite sleeping through a few weeks ago) He literally took my hand off when i gave him the rice, and wasn't sick once afterwards - very unsusual, he is a sicky baby. Still woke several times through the night but a short feed and straight back to sleep again. TBH, i am reaching the end of my tether, and as it is foaling season in a couple of weeks we will be getting even less sleep as DH will be up 3x a night, a couple of nights a week too.

Looks like my milk donation days are over too. The combination of being ill and F feeding so much means there is no milk left. Expressed yesterday to mix with the rice and got 10ml the first time and 30ml the second time

Sorry for the miserable post. Really struggling with F atm, DD wanting more attention and being so good it is breaking my heart having to tell her she can't have it, and DH getting shit at work and working all hours - even yesterday on his day off.

Anyway,hope everyone is enjying all the food and seeing family

Merry Christmas all, hope you're having a lovely time with family and enjoying your first Christmas with new DCs.

I am a complete zombie at the moment. Elodie is basically refusing to sleep except in my arms or in bed with me. I can get her into the cot at the beginning of night where she will stay for two/three hours with a couple of wakings for a cuddle. Then after that, she absolutely refuses to go down - quite often she will fall asleep literally as soon as I pick her up but will wake the moment I put her down and grizzle. I always offer more food, but that doesn't seem to be it, she just wants to be snuggled up. Last night this went on from about midnight to 5am at which point, having had no sleep at all, I brought her into bed with me which I was not happy about doing as I'm at my parents in a v squishy bed.

It was my plan to start sleep training after we get home to teach her to self-settle using PUPD but I'm wondering if now is a good or a bad time to do it... don't want to put her through it if she's not going to learn the lesson.

Guess we're all just hitting the dreaded 4-month sleep regression/growth spurt/teething issues, so sympathies to all struggling and here's a little fairy dust to help you all sleep.

Wrote long post yesterday but looks like it's not here..
We have started weaning too.
Gave T some of her porridge last night and as a result she slept 715pm-630am with not a peep in between