August 2010 - new thread ladies!

[Chulita]

New thread cos we've nearly filled the last one!

How'd it go last night nat?

thedogwalker L didn't crawl til 10mths and S crawled at 6 so that blows the 'boys are lazy' theory out of the water

bellygazing you can ask at the pharmacy for a syringe and they should be able to give you one.

We just went to Dorset for 3 nights just me and the 2 children...hach! I'm soooooooo tired after having the 3 of us in the same room. We didn't sleep well...ok, I didn't sleep well, the children slept like they always do! Still, I wanted to see my friends so it was worth it!

Ah that's good Chulita - you're not too happy where you are living now is that right or have I got you mixed up with someone else? Always good to go home to see old friends

Daniel had another big awake time last night. First one was saturday (2hrs from midnight), last night it was from the 4.30am feed - he just wouldn;t go back to sleep. After 90 mins I brought him in with us. So got back to sleep at 6am - twins woke at 6.30am . Knackered today and still suffering with a bit of a cold.

Anyone going on the March For The Alternative next Saturday? me and Daniel are going . Will try not to smash anything up though

Ahh, posted earlier and it got swallowed by t'internet!

For the last 3 nights E has woken twice as she has a nasty cough and I think it's given her a sore throat. To add to that, tonight, mid feed, she projectile vomited on me - first time she's done that... Poor little thing, think it's going to be a long night. Am leavng her to settle at the mo, but if she doesn't I think I'll be on duty all night... Also smell slightly of sick right now.

It must be catching, Thomas has been waking through the night all week and he normally sleeps a solid 12 hours. He is teething, his 2nd tooth now through, but he always gets a runny nose with it and that is what wakes him as he finds it hard to breathe and then starts to cry.

Is anyone else finding their LO crying more when they leave the room. Thomas is getting really bad with it. It's not just a bit of a cry either, its an all out cry session, so I have to stop what I'm doing and go back to him. Anyone got any ideas?

Hope everyone is well. Take care xx

neez Yes! Will be marching proudly with Eli on his first demo! If anyone tries to kettle this mum with pram, watch out! Grr.

Thanks for thinking of us everyone! It has been tough. We started on Weds night and that was awful. E woke up so much more than normal and was beyond hysterical. I felt so low yesterday and even DH was feeling uncertain about the whole enterprise. We decided to keep going though and last night was better, although still v hard. Today E has been v chipper so feel like it isn't affecting him SO much, and tonight (so far) has been much easier - although E waking more often than usual of an evening. He's a bit easier to settle in the cot now (not that that's saying much!) so keep your fingers crossed!

Belly hope E gets better soon!

Dogwalker sounds like separation anxiety. Have been having similar stuff here, although milder (more grumbling/shouting than crying). I try to talk loudly to E while I'm in other rooms so he can at least hear me. A HV told me to try and finish what I'm doing as long as I'm sure E is safe, not hungry etc (i.e. Not in urgent need of attention). She said it's important that they learn that we go away but then come back, so they stop worrying. Which, for once from an HV, sounds sensible.

Well, I had to go back into E and feed her again at about 8pm - after all she had thrown up most of her food! She settled well til about 12.30am, then I fed her, but she was v unsettled and crying a lot so after about an hour and a half of feeding, cuddling, leaving then coming back again, I ended up bringing her into bed with us and she slept til morning. Then popped her back in the cot at about 7.30am for an hour - she grumbled a bit but not too much, thought it was important she got back in the cot!

We've had no more sickness fortunately, it was quite mammoth last night. I think she's hopefull got that out of her system and while she's still coughing a lot sounds better I think.

nat It's so hard, but remember the reason why you're doing it - and give lots and lots of cuddles during the day. I find helps too.

Worst night ever last night. So many wake ups, so much screaming. I lost it and brought E into bed with me at about 3, but even that didn't calm things down. So we lasted half way through the third night. I feel like an idiot giving up, but it was getting worse, not better. Only positive is E is happy to be settled in his cot at the start of the night, awake. No other time. :(

dogwalker J is doing that too and sometimes wants to sit on my lap to play instead of the floor. I hope he doesn't get too clingy!
:( nat, at least he's going to bed better - that's a big step

nat it will get better, it really honestly will. It'll just be a hard slog until it does but you'll get there. You're not an idiot for giving up, it's very very hard.

S is very, very clingy too (as is L) so I can't leave him. He doesn't even like to be left with DH and neither does L so I permanently have 2 children hanging off me...it's a phase, they'll get over it but it's pretty full-on at the mo!

Nat you;'re not an idiot giving up - after 3 nights you should see massive improvement and if you don't then abandoning is the right thing to do. They are still so young - try again in a month or even wait till he is 1. At this age all manner of things can be wrong (teething, viruses, just feeling out of sorts) and it's difficult to tell cos they can't tell us what's wrong! They can only cry... I found it much easier to 'read' the twins after they turned 1 - things got a lot easier.

Well Daniel actually slept through last night! I dream fed him at 11pm and he slept till 8am . He was very snotty though yesterday and seems to sleep better when he is ill. He seems to be eating much better so hopefully it is that and we will see much more of it.

Nat, agree about the kettling! At least breastfed babies would always have access to food tho

Nat, it doesn't have to be the whole hog wrt cc. Any times you can leave him to self-settle are going to help ie at bedtime if he is self-settling that's great, and if you can get a nap or two out of him in the day where he self-settles... it's just about trying to break that feed-to-sleep thing, gradually if necessary. He will get there

nat we just went away for three days and S has learnt to self-settle. We were all in the same room so I'd put them both to bed, L would try and get him to play and he eventually just couldn't stay awake any more and went to sleep. Since we've been home he's been going down awake but going to sleep by himself and he's slept completely through for 3 nights in a row The first night back he slept 6pm to 6am, going from 4 feeds a night to that. (He most likely won't keep it up though so I'm just enjoying every night!)

And neenz that's right, I don't much like where we are now. It was lovely to go and see my friends but have since been a bit sad cos they're soooooo far away :( It doesn't help that L keeps asking about her 2 friends that she gets on really, really, really well with, she's made me cry twice today asking about them!

nat you poor thing, sounds awful. I think with CC if it works it will work pretty quickly so you absolutely did the right thing jacking it in if it was getting worse. As neenz says, the fact that he will now self-settle at the beginning of the night is big progress, so you've done great there.

Hope things improve for you soon.

E seems to be recovering from her bug, no more projectile vomiting thank goodness and she went down fine last night then only woke once - and down at 7pm with no tears again this evening.

Hope everyone has had lovely weekends.

Chulita thats great about S now self settling and sleeping through, long may it continue

Belly Gld E is feeling better, it's not good is it when they are suffering, I just want to take all the pain away, I hate to see Thomas crying.

Nat Keep the failth girl, it can only get better, I really hope things imrove for you soon.

Well Thomas is 7 months today, how the time flies by. He is still crying when I leave the room, but thanks for the advice nat, I talk loudly and it seems to calm him a little. I'm sure it's just a phase, but I just hate to hear him crying, even when I know there is nothing wrong with him.

Hope everyone is well and wishing lots of sleeping vibes to those that need it, including myself as Thomas has now done over a week of not sleeping through, which is new for me and so I'm struggling on little sleep. Teething has a lot to answer for.

ta ta for now, take care all xx

gah! I'm finding it hard today not to get cross with him. he keeps pulling my hair (really hard!) and earlier whacked me on the head with his cup when I bent down to pick up some food he'd dropped, then threw his cup on the floor - lid fell off and water went everywhere including on my sock and slipper grrr.

Fortunately he's now asleep in bed :)

Can any sympathise with similar stories of annoying babies?

PS I love him really

LOL Marzi Eli has been doing a lot hair pulling and screeching. And thrashes wildly on the changing mat, knocking all the stuff off it (nappy cream, pot of water - went everywhere), pulls loads of wet wipes out of the packet, kicks his heels in pooey nappies... HA! Drives me crazy.

Thanks again all for the well-wishes. Have decided to be realistic in my expectations re night. E is not going to start sleeping through the night randomly, in miraculous fashion. He will improve in increments. And the settling in the cot without crying for the first stretch of the night reLly dies feel like a big step. That feels great. Plus DH can give me an hour or twos lie-in in the mornings if he gets a decent night, so... Things aren't too bad!

Lovely weather today, eh? Spring!!

oh yes I forgot to mention the nappy changes! He's determined to roll over while I'm doing it, grr (quite cute though :) )

Oh yeah know where you are coing from, Thomas is always trying to roll over when changing him, trying to grab everything that is near him and he has a fascination with his willy, everytime I change him, he has to have a pull of it

yes I was a bit alarmed when J first discovered his willy - he always makes a grab for it. not great when it's covered in poo!

Glad you're feeling a bit better about the nights nat. We'll all get there in the end

nat S has started sleeping through the night randomly in a miraculous fashion. I'm most perplexed but very happy about it, it won't last but it's been 6 nights in a row now so I'm enjoying it. He's up at 5am every day and that's the price I have to pay!

marzi S spits/blows raspberries so my pjs/clothes are covered in whatever he's been eating. It's vile and I hope he grows out of it soon cos it really, really winds me up!

As to rolling when you change them, give them a noisy/sticky/odd toy that's only ever played with at changing time and that'll keep them still for a bit. We currently have a wooden police car with a siren that keeps him occupied.

E also tries to roll during nappy changes, and occasionally kicks her heel in a pooey nappy. Mmmm. And she likes to pull my glasses off and grab my face. And she goes for my neck with some kind of Vulcan death grip which is really quite painful.

She kicked my DH twice in the willy when he was changing her the other day

Hello girls, just a little update.

So there really is a baby and he or she is measuring 6+6 weeks today and 9.7mm! I cannot tell you how relieved we were when they showed us the heartbeat on the screen. (Infact the Dr has written in our notes that we were delighted to see fetal heartbeat!)

The appointment itself was an hour and a half late which blew my anxiety levels through the roof. Not to mention having to go to the toilet twice and then down loads more water to fill up again incase I was called! It all feels incredibly real now. I can't stop looking at our little picture. The baby is so tiny!

We made ourselves go in Mothercare tonight and buy a pregnancy journal like we started at around 7 weeks with Belle. We must try to be as excited and have lots of lovely memories for No2 as we did for Belle. It was just as massive a step going through those doors as it was lying on a scanning bed again.

Next scan booked in for 26th April and seeing community midwife next Tuesday to do all the green notes and plan her part in my care inbetween my visits to the consultant. The Dr has also put me on a low dose of Asprin, purely precautionary (no blood or clotting disorders were found) but he has said it won't do any harm anyway.

Hope everyone is doing really well. xx

that's great news cazandbelle :) I really hope you can find lots of joy in this pregnancy despite the mixed emotions