August 2010 - new thread ladies!

[Chulita]

New thread cos we've nearly filled the last one!

Thanks everyone for your welcomes.

E is teething too but I find Nelsons powders work a treat.

CellyD I know what you mean about 'I don't have kids but I'm sure I know best', I was just thinking the same earlier today.

lol at your friend celly If only it worked like that! Maybe i should tell ds?

welcome morsbagmum. Broken sleep seems to be dominating this thread at the mo. How does Evie sleep?

I was wondering about the others from the antenatal thread too. Are any of you friends with some of them on facebook? Maybe they all have babies who sleep through and are afraid to come and tell us!

marzipananimal Thanks for the welcome.

Dare I say that Evie sleeps through? She is formula fed as I was unable to bf. . We generally put her down at about 7.30 - 8.00pm and she sleeps through until about 7.00am. I know I am very lucky. She does sometimes wake once or twice during the night but always self-settles.

DH and I are going away for the night tonight so we're dropping Evie at my parents this morning , first time we've left her overnight, (although she has stayed over at my parents with me before)..

Wow morsbagmum! brilliant sleeping, I'm very

marzi I'm friends with some of them on fb, I think some of them are a bit busy to mn but I don't think they have sleepy babies...except cherrypie, I'm pretty sure her lo sleeps through.

celly hehe, I remember DH saying that L would just have to fit in with our schedule - was never going to happen!

Morning? i think?

Shocking night here. Teething or sleep regression who knows, but have found some useful links to share

here

and here

DH took F downstairs for an hour or so in the night and put him in his swing so he would sleep and i could get some sleep. DH then started looking up sleep in babies, and aside from the teething, the fact that F learnt to roll over yesterday could be a huge contributing factor on how bad last night was.

Cherry and MrsZ are on my FB and post a fair bit. I think both are having sleep issues, so probably can't keep their eyes open to post, rather than too much sleep

Thinking of getting some eye drops today. My eyes feel full of sand due to lack of sleep.

celly I remember reading while pg that newborns feed about 6 times in 24 hours, and thought, well, I won't be needing to do it that much (despite planning to demand feed) and of course many days I feed her much more frequently than that!
neenz Elodie has always slept v well while out and about in the pram or the sling, but at home it was almost always falling asleep on the boob. Now that she appears to be napping in a stationary pram in the kitchen it's amazing what I can get done (you know, a bit of FB, read a bit, eat some more...) I'm not going to assume it's going to last though. But I can hope...

Last night, despite E not going down until 9.30pm with lots of false starts, was the best night in ages - fed at 2.15am and 5.30am, up for the day at about 8.30am. She woke and fussed before that a couple of times but settled herself back to sleep. And she settled back in her cot after both feeds although I'm not sure I slept much better than usual as kept expecting her to wake - but mentally I feel much more positive, especially as E went down happily for a nap at 11am. Had an enormous boob by 8.30....

Welcome morsbag.

Welcome Morsbag, my LO is 20 weeks today and he also sleeps through. He does wake in the night and talks to himself before going back to sleep, which is cute to listen to.

CellyD your friend, that is funny, why haven't we all thought of that, , gave me a chuckle anyway.

Not sure what is going on with T, he is whingy all day, hot flushed face, high temp,and knawing at his fingers, so I think he could be in the early throes of teething, but I can still get him to sleep for his 2 hours in the afternoon, and he still goes down at night, so I reckon he can't be that bad, just whingy because I'm there and he knows I'll come running , little monkeys aren't they.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend, may try a 2nd batch of bread baking later, but the 1st was such a disappointment. Take care x

Oh my T has been rolling on to his tummy all week and then crying because he couldn't get back, well today, he rolled on to his tummy stayed there for a while, doing mimi pushups, well it looked like that, and then he rolled back on to his back, what a little champ . My oh my aren't our LOs growing up!!!!

wow, that's impressive dogwalker! my 25 week old isn;t rolling at all yet...

celly i know exactly what you mean - i thought friends of mine with a baby a year older than J were a bit weird for cosleeping, always using a sling etc - i now know you do what you have to do to get through the day! fancy coming round for a cuppa soon by the way? will text you!

j is still loving weaning - he had his first meat and dairy (yes, i know, naughty) today and loved both chicken and yoghurt!

Welcome morsbag
I will post more when I haven't got such a grotesque hangover...

That's good woodlands, glad J is loving the food. I can't wait to wean, but T not quite ready yet and I cannot be bothered with purees, just can't wait to watch as T eats new stuff and explores food.

He has eaten a bit of bannana, pear and potato, but only small amounts, whatever he picks up himself. Trying the blw thing, so its in his hands quite literally. So glad everything is going well for you, please keep us all updated and give us hints and tips as you will be the subject matter expert.

Hope everyone has had a good weekend, take care xx

Ooops sorry forgot to say, GYA hope your hangover has gone and you're feeling better.

I've started giving S bits and pieces if he wants it and he's really keen on grabbing it and shoving it in but then if he actually gets a bit in his mouth he panics and gags til he throws up...not quite sure he's got the point yet! Might try him with some broccoli cos the little bits shouldn't scare him as much as banana!

Think I'm too old for going out till 330 am drinking cocktails and shots..

Chulita- T loved broccoli but it did result in a lovely nappy change in the middle of the night!

Feeling a bit short changed by this weekend as had Dh in charge at bedtime on Friday from about 530 then my mum picking the older two up atvten Saturday morning to have overnight then Dh looking after the baby until 12/1 Saturday and then dropping her at my sisters for an overnighter.

My nieces desperate to have their baby cousin!

Anyway I slept on the sofa Friday night until 7am then was pretty much up from then as Dh told me I had to call my mum as dd1 not feeling well enough to go.

Ended up dressing 2 out of 3 of them, getting their things ready and getting their breakfast so not exactly a break!

Dd1 did go in the end but Dh kept putting off the time when he said he d get ready so I could go back to bed and so I never did..

Planned to drop baby at my sister with Dh who changed his mind and made me drive there on my own .
Then come home take dog out for a run, make puddings for family lunch next day via shops for ingredients, power nap then off to a party with Dh.

Dropped baby off and get call from mum saying puck up dd1 not well so that scrapped those plans and dd2 came aswell.
Up in night not with baby but to let Dh in at 330 am even though he had keys in his pocket! Grr.

Up with girls looked after all day inc a trip to buy pud ingredients as Dh went to pub for 'a few' which ended in a session lasting 1-10 at the pub.
He really needs to start back to work!

Anyway after a supposed weekend off I feel exhausted
Oh well Neva mind will make up for it this week I hope sorry for the rant

Ah girls that was no fair, poor you.

I'm watching the weaning talk with interest as S is 20 weeks now and although far from ready, she does watch my plate with beady eyes and ate a whole sheet of red tissue paper on Christmas Day (oh the shock when I saw her nappy before realising what it was). I reckon we'll wait until closer to the 26 week mark but meanwhile she is still feeding every 2 hours in the night and it's so tiring, I really really hope that weaning will slow that down.

Question ladies - how many of you still have babies in your room with you? We do and again are thinking of moving her into her own room around the 6 month mark as per guidelines. I'm a bit apprehensive about this as a) I'll miss her but b) if the 2 hour feeds continue it's going to be even more physically arduous? For those of you with babies now in their own rooms, when did you move them, how was it and how does it impact on your nights now?

We're going to Barcelona for a few days on Friday and I flippin' cannot wait!

And he ate the veg lasagne I was saving for my dinner tonight which a) he can't remember and b) he doesn't even like. Grr.

Lcr- we moved T at around 3.5 months as she wouldn't fit into her Moses basket anymore.
Cot won't fit as we sleep in loft conversion under eaves.
She's the third so it's easier than when it was our pfb!

Nights are better actually she goes down awake at 7pm and wakes around 2/3 am has a feed and generally sleeps again until 6-8 am.
Sometimes sleeps through the night.
I sleep better because I'm not getting her up to feed her if she wriggles or murmurs only when she actual cries

She sleeps better cos she's not disturbed by me going to bed and getting up with the other two or Dh getting in from work.

Have a lovely time in Barcelona I went there for my hen do it was excellent

gya sounds like your DH needs a bit of a kick up the backside, not really giving you time off at all it seems!

LCR - E is also 20 weeks, is also feeding every couple of hours and in our room. I've been thinking a lot about moving her because the other night she woke up 45 mins after I put her down and I was about to get up and feed her but she fell back to sleep - I think if she'd been in another room I wouldn't have woken at all. But the night feeding is v random at the mo so like you I think it might end up being harder her being in another room? Think I will prob wait until it settles a bit.

Night wakings have calmed down to just two and sometimes three, which is great, but I'm having an absolute mare putting her down. It's been after 11 the last 2 nights! We have a good bedtime routine, bath at 6.30pm, bottle feed followed by breastfeed until she's full, then I either rock her til she's asleep or put her down asleep already(she won't self-settle although she does for naps in her pram). But at the mo she's waking a few minutes later, seems impossible to rock to sleep, disinterested in more food and just wide awake. Have tried making it completely dark and putting on white noise, which works for naps, but that doesn't seem to work. I don't know if I'm not leaving her long enough, or what, but it's driving me potty. Have been thinking about putting her to sleep in the pram in the evening then bringing her into bed when we go to sleep and putting her in the cot after a feed, but wonder if that might be counterproductive in terms of encouraging her to sleep in her cot. ANy thoughts?

Her naps are really good at the mo.

Hi all
LCR my DS is now 20 weeks and he is still in the room with me. He grew out of his moses basket about 5 weeks ago and I didn't have the heart to put him in his cot in his nursery so we moved the cot into our room. My DH was glad as he didn't want DS to be in nursery just yet. I will review when DS is 6 months, but as he is a good sleeper, he never wakes when either I or DH goes to bed, so I'm in no rush. I think I would be too worried about him being in another room and I would end up getting up to check on him all the time. At least now, all I have to do is sit up and I can see him.

GYA that sounds just typical of men when they say they will help out, it ends up being more trouble than its worth. Hope you get a break soon.

Got T his passport photos today and will be going to the embassey later this week to get his passport, then I can, at last, go back to the UK and show off my son. Plan on travelling early March when T will be just over 6 months, didn't want to subject him to such a long journey too soon, which is why I've waited. But my Mum was with me for the birth and she came over for Xmas, so she has at least seen him.

Hope everyone is having a good start to the week. take care x

LCR we still have J in our room (bedside cot) and have no plans to move him in the immediate future. He is waking up every 2-3 hours through the night still (sorry, introducing solids hasn't helped much yet!) and I'm too lazy to get out of bed and trek down the hall each time - much easier when he's next to me and I don't even have to get out of bed to feed him. If he suddenly starts sleeping through, or even just having one night feed, we might think about moving him then. Trouble is that his room is the other end of the flat, plus DH uses it as a study and he works from home a lot including in the evenings, so that would be a pain if he couldn't go in there in the evenings.

Tried butternut squash at lunchtime - he liked!

Had J weighed this morning - he's now 19lb 9oz, still just under 91st centile. getting big!

We moved daniel to his own room at 8wks when he started settling back to sleep straight after feeds in the night. It seemed to improve his sleep massively, cos I wasn't disturbing him nor he us. You can always give it a go and then change back if it is not working!

Belly, could it be too much daytime sleep, or maybe a nap too close to bedtime? I know if D naps at 5pm he doesn't sleep at 7pm. He is not good at going to bed anyway, it is often after 10pm! But I'd rather that try to keep him awake and have him all grouchy while I am trying to do the twins' tea.

MrsZac and Cherry are on FB, Mrs Zac still not getting much sleep with Nieve and Cherry had her LO sleeping through until recently, then she started with food and I think he is sleeping well again.

Daniel has started waking twice a night (1.30 and 4.30) when it was just once before (3.30). It is not so bad atm but it is very tiring. Once a night is doable but twice gets me knackered over a week or so. Might try some baby rice but trying to hold off. He is 21 weeks now.

Neenz, is Daniel actually wanting food when he wakes, my Thomas wakes at least once every night, for up to 30 minutes, but all he does is talk and gurgle and then go back to sleep. Yes it wakes me up but I don't go to him, afraid he might get use to me getting up and then him wanting me to soothe him. I've never offered him food as he is always just content to gurgle away. Just a thought, but obviously if he's crying etc then just ignore me

Hope your sleep pattern improves soon.

J is still sleeping in our room - same reasons as woodlands. Nights would be unbearable atm if I had to get out of bed to feed/cuddle him.

I'm reading Baby Led Weaning (Gill Rapley) at the mo and think it's really good. I'm planning to start giving him food to play with in a few weeks (he's nearly 19 weeks now), when his grabbing and sitting up have got a bit better. I figure if he manages to chew and swallow some food then he's ready for it.
I read an interesting paper by the British dietetic association on weaning here. Someone linked to it on another thread (forgive me if it was on this thread - short term memory terrible). Made me much more relaxed about starting before 6 months.

dogwalker you might have a point there, he only babbles, he doesn't really cry. But I know the quickest way to shut him up and get him back to sleep is feed him (10-15mins and he's back to sleep). I would only lie there awake thinking 'I'm going to have to get up soon!'. I think if I didn't get up he would eventually cry (he takes both sides so i think he is hungry). Will definiteyl bear it in mind tho thanks!

Interesting report marzi - I don't think starting before 6mths is so bad as long as you don't start with allergenic foods. Interesting that they make a point of '6 months at the latest and not before 17 weeks'

Marzi thanks for that report, it was a very interesting read and means that I now don't feel too guilty when my DS picks up a bit of pear or bannana and starts eating it. As I was going by BLW, same as you, but now I may do a mixture of both . Thanks for a great find.