dec 2008- the one where they all turn 2...probably.

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Sorry bit boring I know but I didn't want to make any reference to spot as I don't want to jinx her and have her baby come early, then it would be my fault. Also didn't want the mad rush at the end of the thread. This way we've had plenty of time.

Mmmm, Chris isn't my fave. Nor Pui. I don't like any of the toys either but I DO like the songs, especially the Groovy Moves one. Also, I know CBeebies is for kids but they are all so badly dressed, these presenters. Is he gay, Spot? I have a terrible gaydar. The party I went to last Saturday was hosted by a gay pal of mine and he always laughs at my lamentable gaydar. I have a terrible wigdar as well. Can never spot a hairpiece. I think Terry Wogan's hair looks natural, that's how bad I am.

ANYWAY! DD2 was throwing up yesterday (she is ok now though so there is hope for your DS, Deids) and I am still deaf and have a swollen thumb joint now as well, so all a bit mad and annoying here. Indith, your poor littles sound in bad shape - no wonder you feel bonkers.

Beans, those bad haircuts soon grow out. You will remember I gave DD1 a Series 1 Blackadder a couple of months ago. It was soon looking better

Hope you are having a good day with DS, Rubes. Ooh, Beford Square is v nice. I am amused that your DH can pinpoint the actual number

Trace, I looked at your thread but thought you had good advice from others and I don't have anything to add other than you are vv hard on yourself and both your DDs sound lovely.

Wow Avo, that's serious decisionmaking. Well done though. It's great to have a plan, I am a great planner. But maybe not with the house. My problem is I can't do a lot without DP and he has been so busy with very heavy trials that he has barely had a chance to give the house a thought. When we move is contingent on getting the chiney sorted, which will be after Christmas, and I am still garnering quotes. Sigh. It seems that whoever does it, I'm looking at upwards of £1200. (Effie, it would be great if you could ask your chimney man for a very rough ballpark of what he would expect it to cost to get a chimney lined). However, DP has most of next week off so we are going to try to make what progress we can, though we have to do things like go to Shropshire to get a table and drop DD1 up at my Mum's.

Sybs, it looks like the second wave of the SS will be bigger than the first wave

I have DP's chambers Christmas do tomorrow night. I am digging out one of my prize possessions from my once glamorous past - a pair of Christian Louboutins covered in black sequins. They are very very high and kill my feet. But hey. Beauty has its pinch, as my mother always says. Bit of a dubious motto when you think about it

Lady: have a fab time tomorrow. You too, Avo with your mummy drinkies. In stark contrast I will be living it up with the in-laws at Kettering's Premier Inn. Living the dream .

Trace: I haven't found your thread, but if you are being critical of yourself I do not approve. Happy birthday to young P :).

Rubes: please don't hold back on the family gripes, I have a sympathetic ear for family lunacy. Happy birthday to Ben too!

Veggie: are you sleeping off your hangover?

Indith: cp is hellish, we had it the other way round (DS1 fine, DS2 v poorly) but it is so miserable when they are I'll, it goes on for ages and you're stuck inside. Are you nearing the end of quarantine? It can only get better from here...

Spot: hurrahfor 37 weeks and getting a rest! I am secretly hoping DS2 is another Znew Years baby. There's sometamazing about a new baby at the beginning of the new year. You might get in 'the leper too.

Leper?? What is it with this phone? Paper. Unless your local rag is called 'The Leper' which I doubt.

I am laughing at leper AND Kettering's Premier Inn.

No offence to anyone from Northampton but I do think it's in with a shout for Britain's Most Boring County (Corby, Kettering, Wellingborough, Peterborough, Daventry...)

Reprieve! MIL has cancelled (or rather postponed). Kettering will have to do without us this weekend .

Evening ladies. Sorry I didn't write earlier. I'm back from my break had such a lovely relaxing time and due to noisy and smoking (on the non smoking floor) neighbours I was upgraded and moved to a business class room. It had a coffee maker, bath and shower and of course a bathrobe and slippers. I have to say I was quite boring in the end and spent most of my time reading in the room or by the pool. I thought about going out in the evening but it was so cold. I popped down to the hotel bar it was chock full of delegates from a conference and was really noisy. I did get my massage though and it was lovely. The massage lady was so sweet she stretched out a 1 hour treatment to.nearly 2 hours for me. My only disappointment was I couldn't find the Christmas markets but didn't think to go to the old town (well was too lazy to walk there) and of course that's where they were located. DH said we could pop down on sunday and have a look at them with the boys which might be a better idea anyway.

Happy birthday to our latest set of 2 year olds.

Ds2 is playing up tonight and may not make it to his 2nd birthday.

Dh is out at his work Christmas do. They don't actually have work Christmas parties here but DH decided it was a tradition he'd like to introduce for his team. Poor thing is quite tired from being a sole parent for 2 nights.

Avo I used to work 8am-6pm I loved it. It result doesn't feel that much longer.

Lady I think we should have our PD inspired virtual cocktail party when you move into your new house.

Oh and Effie sorry you have to miss your big Kettering knees up.

Right I'm off to watch the trip on iplayer.

lady When you mention a 'Chambers do' I can't help but think of Bridget Jones Please don't get ready in the taxi lovely! BTW your shoes sound gorgeous and I am very. Have a wonderful evening.

effie Shame....

avo No wonder you have been absent for a while. They are some serious decisions you have made. No wonder you feel both exhausted and liberated by them. Good to see you back.

trace I had a quick skim of the thread you mentioned. I do feel you are harsh on yourself. DD is 4 and sometimes I could just scream at her...she drives me potty. EVERYTHING is a drama with her. If she's mean to DS I sometimes feel I over-do the telling her off etc simply because I feel she should know/behave better. I think L is at a very tricky age. She is still so young, yet at times (if your anything like me) we expect them to act and behave older than they are iyswim. I think its made worse because you have a toddler who you expect childish behaviour from, not the elder child. I prescribe more maltesers and a generous dose of be kind to yourself

Right DS in bed. Still nasty nappies but the sickness appears to have died down. DH off out so I am going to slob in front of the TV. Bliss!

Deids what you say to Trace makes sense but I have the reverse problem. I'm.still.getting really impatient and often yelling at poor DS2 we had another yelling match tonight. I hate how I behave when he gets me frustrated. But I think I'm making it worse because I'm expecting DS2's behaviour to be more like DS1. I wish I didn't get so frustrated by him, I hate treating him like this and I hate DS1 seeing me get so.frustrated and see him treated like that.

vag Thats tough, I think that's the thing with having more than one DC, you are always going to compare them. Do you think DS2 was punishing you tonight because you've been away? DS totally rejects me when I get home from home work. Cries for Daddy/nanny/Grandad - whoever's had him. Eventually he comes around.

Welcome back Vag! Sounds great! And online moving in cocktails - love it. I too have been irritable with DD1 today as well and I feel a bit bad. But I think it's inevitable.

DB - they are honestly the only very very posh shoes I possess and they were a gift. Apart from two or three handbags I don't have superfancy gear like that. As for Bridget Jones, well...I am already only too conscious of the parallel. (Fat arse, white wine, used to work in publishing, barrister boyfriend with whom I am often in trouble...However, I don't smoke and I am a bit more sensible I hope...I really hope) Enjoy your telly night! Same here.

Deids it could be that though truthfully its often like this. He is getting less frustrated over certain things, ie when he can't do something he says "please" and shows me what I want help with. However, his latest thing now he can talk is when he is in the bath he cries "no like, no want" but if I go to take him out he then screams that he wants to stay in, then when I stop taking him out, he says "no like, no want" so I start taking him out, and then it just goes around and around.

Ah we have the 'no like' for lots of things. I think it translates as I don't like/I don't want/I've had enough/leave me alone mum your doing my head in!

I also think the little sods mites really know which buttons to press and at this age its all about boundaries and they are really seeing how far they can push them. He sounds very headstrong, are you? Mum always says me and DD clash because we are too alike! Aargghh who'd be a parent!!

Yes that's the worst bit Deids, we are alike. DH says we are going to be at each other big time in his teens. DH and DS1 are alike, very calm and difficult to anger, it's not fair, DH doesn't clash with either of them. Though he does get a bit over screamed at with DS2. Aaahh, I just keep telling myself that his strong character will do him well when he's an adult...or he'll be a crazy football hooligan.

Hello!
Fabulous day with ds and some of the family for his Birthday! Started at 6 as I wanted to give him a pressie which turned into 2 (Deids that talking bloody toolbox, thank GOD for the on off switch! However he is a car boy through and through and the Garage and about a billion new cars he got from various people have been the main attraction - well that and a helium baloon that his great nan brought over which he took everywhere with him! they all stayed for Fish and Chips too and ds ate a lot of that too. he was so happy all day and went to bed exhausted with a car in each hand and hasn't moved an inch in bed - very sweet.
I have just finished making a number 2 cake for him for tomorrow when his uncle (the other one as in dh's brother) comes over and also G'ma again. I'm seriously no baker by any stretch, so I use the term 'make' in it's literal sense mil is making a Fire Engine cake [strewth] so at least mine can be just a back up!
Lady, our chimney guy said he is so far behind and wanted to come back either tomorrow or Sunday due to the weather this week, so couldn't ask for you but dh reckons they are pretty pricey jobs and could well be quite reasonalble etc.
Your do tomorrow sounds fab - I didn't think of Brigette Jones until it was said and now can't get it out of my head! Those shoes sound fantastic!

Effie I'm not holding back - I'm just holding back judgement iyswim and giving my parents the benefit of the doubt. I had an email from them thismorning to wish ds a happy b'day but they didn't mention that they had sent (even if just a card) something, or ask if I'd received anything, so they either have, and it's delayed due to whether or they are being horribly and unnaceptably slack. i replied to their email to tactfully ask but they are currently on the road to get to my brothers for Christmas so haven't heard back. if they have only sent that email I will be considerably pissed off but if they have sent a card or something and it's just late, I didn't want to go berko about / at them and jump the gun. I would only expect a card as they will get him something when we are there in a couple of months but I have a feeling that it was overlooked in the lead up to their trip, that's all.

Right just gotta finalise this Sainsbo's order before I lose the slot....

oh and the SMSM guy? really?

That is SO cute, going to bed with a car in each hand. Awwww. So glad he/you had a good day.

my shoes!

Gosh my spelling is atrocious!

Vag glad you had such a nice time!

Oh and also Lady, they show number 52 on the door almost every episode of the Apprentice - he's no Nancy Drew. As soon as ds's birthday stuff is over I will put my head to sorting out when we can get together!

Has there been any more discussion about MN Xmas drinks? Bummer Deids that you have to work till the 23rd. can't you stop a day or 2 early?

Oh and Avo, glad you have made some decisions - they sound great and you sound much happier

Urbs did you make a decision to decide to make a decision? I'm confused.... how did it go?
Ooops there's dd....

Rubes do you mean really as in is he really gay, or really as in that people on here like him?

I'm with you on being peeved with relatives over birthdays. DHs sis has just sent the boys Christmas presents, though DH thinks she is trying to atone for last year as she didn't send any. BUT, for the 2nd year running (& there have only been 2) she has completely forgotten DS2's birthday (presents wise she may still phone on the day). Now my family aren't great but we always get her boys a present and she sends DS1 a present. DH is quite about it, because she can't even plead forgetting the date as it is one month to the day earlier than her DS2! She went a bit weird after our DS2 was born and he had his Chinese fortune told and apparently it was not completely positive. So we are not sure if she is ignoring his existence because of this. She does dress her son as a girl so who knows.

lady - crossed with you - LOVE them! (shoes) Oh and hope dd fully recovers soon.
Yes he was so cute and sil nearly cried when she saw how he is when dh gets home from work - he see's / hears the car and runs to the front window and jumps up and down saying 'yeah yeah' whilst pounding the window! it's a total tear jerker every day and sh always texts and says he's '5 mins off so tell ds to wait' but strangely he then acts all 'cool' when dh gets inside - like he wasn't that giddy!

Vag I may have the wrong guy as I've only paid attention to SMSM once, but I was referring to really is he all that etc?

The one that really irritates me is bloody Pippins owner - who has a pilots license at that age and pops in the plane every day? Or am I missing a huge part of it as I've only caught the tail end of that one in the last few days too
Vag - that weird sil of yours that would creep me out - I'd probably have to insist on finding out what she 'saw'

WOW lady I love those shoes!

Hey vag maybe SIL 'saw' that DS2 would become a crazed footie hooligan. That would explain his temper. Seriously though she does sound odd.

rubes DS has now figured out how to get the toolbox back on thanks to DD. Sounds like he had a lovely day - and more to come today.

DS been up since 5.30am and DH in bed sleeping off his hangover.

Funny you say that Rubes I've been thinking of asking what the fortune actually said if she is being so weird and ignoring DS2.

I'm not seeing it with Chris either, in fact the only one I can vaguely tolerate is Chris, and that's just because he's a bit of eye candy. DS1 is really into octanauts at the moment and everyone of the voices really grates on me.

Well we officially have a house of poo, no vom, but its poo city. DS2 has been through nearly a pack of nappies since Wednesday and now poor DS1 has started up. He actually slept downstairs last night to be closer to the toilet and has basically hardly slept because he's been backwards and forwards to the loo. Sadly they had a birthday party to go to this afternoon but I can't really take them like this. The birthday girl won't be happy she adores DS2 and sees him as some sort of pet that she owns.

I love Chris and Pui. SMSM reminds me of playschool, Carole Chell, Chloe Ashcroft and Brian Cant. I suspect only Lady T is old enough (and in GB at the time) to recall these people. We do groovy moves too. Love it.

Rubes, you are funny. Auntie Mabel is a classic and buys a good ten minutes of peace. The actress is Lynda Baron, who is quite a well known comedy actress. It's about 20 years old though, which explains lots of the quaint things. And the episode about poo is a classic. Auntie Mabel goes down a sewer to see where Pippin's poo goes. Nice.

Sorry about the poo Vag. There is a lot of it about. I always tell the kids if they have to miss a party that it means they get a private one with the birthday person all to themselves. Then at the next tea date, stick a candle in a fairy cake and - ta da - job done. Bummer though after your break.

Love the shoes LadyT. Hadn't thought about the B Jones comparisons. You are clearly much more intelligent than her and much better informed. Please tell me you don't have a Daniel Cleave in your life.

Am about to do a tesco run for some cheap booze. Now I sound like B Jones. They have cava at 3 bottles for £12 so as I am having a small party on Wed, I think I'll do champagne cocktails. After a fashion.

Sorry, WW3 broken out over a piece of chocolate. Back shortly.

Oh just realised I've confused you. My SIL didn't actually do the fortune thing, it was done by some Chinese fortune teller in the Philippines, tthat's where much of DHs maternal extended family lives. Anyway when his fortune came about it apparently said he would clash with his parents. In days of old they would have adopted a child like DS2 out with a fortune like that. However, my MIL assured us it was all a bit of nonsense and her 2nd son had a similar fortune and he is a wonderful very dedicated son. Anyway, dh and I didn't think much of it but his SIS went a bit weird about it and was ringing late at night asking what he was going to do. It was all very strange as she was all not into the fortune thing and didn't get it done for her DS1. She was so hysterical about it that MIL said she should not get her soon to be born DS2's fortune done, as she had intended to for him. Though it seems she did and now dresses him as girl, that's another thing they did with boys who had a bad fortune. Does that all make any sense.

That's such a good idea Sybs might run that by her mum for next week.

Oh and we had playschool in Australia but with Aussie actors. In fact I think we still have it and has many of the same actors. I have a few of the ABC nursery rhyme cds for the boys. Rubes do you remember Jamima?