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AlpinePony · 11/11/2010 19:21

How exciting for a new thread - two FESHspring due shortly! Grin

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Cosmosis · 01/12/2010 09:22

I would love to use a dummy, I think Artie would find it really helpfull, he however disagrees and just will not take one.

Honey, like alps says, it will settle, I am afraid small baybees just wake up a lot. I just jeep telling myself it can't be forever, can it?

CUNextTuesday · 01/12/2010 09:27

silv leaving your child to whinge is NOT bad parenting so you can cut that talk out right now They are exercising their voice and as long as it isn't full on screaming that there is something very wrong, a bit of whinging will not have any effect on his wellbeing. Go with it, he will be whinging for the next 40 years so you may as well get used to ignoring it at the earliest opportunity. Now go and sit in the corner and think about what I've said.
Grin

moo seconding alps here, it will get better. If you continue to do a FF at night your boobs will adapt - usually about 3 days or so of boulders and then they will get better, just make sure the next feed you give is a good substantial one to clear everything out from both boobs - I got localised painful hard hot spots if I didn't. And keep the little one awake until he's drunk from both, don't take any dropping-off-to-sleep nonsense (as much as you may be tempted) - a good earlobe pinch will start him off again.

CurlyCasper · 01/12/2010 09:32

Agree with the others honey, it's just the way little babies are. Unfortunately you just have to go with it. We used to decant to the living room and watch telly/go on laptop at all hours of the night.

We use dummies (yes, plural!) By day she just likes to fiddle around with it. At night, if she wakes and won't settle I just have to pop it back in and climb back into my own bed. It was a very important move for us because reflux babies need to suck in a bid to soothe their stomachs, but extra feeding would add to their pain. And I'd rather she had a dummy than sucked her thumb - I can take one of those away. And she uses her dummy less and less as she gets older.

We had a much better night last night. Thank goodness! Mind you, it's so cold I reckon we'd be better off all back in bed.

CUNextTuesday · 01/12/2010 09:41

Oh yes, the cold Sad We've just foregone the morning nap upstairs cos it's only 12C in our bedroom. Think we'll go out and send my passport application off instead - dressed up warmly enough I'm sure he'll nod off in the car/buggy cos he's hanging with tiredness. Tsk.

Cosmosis · 01/12/2010 10:24

I agree, leaving to winge not bad parenting at all. I wish I could leave to winge, unfortunately the winge lasts about a minute before the screaming starts. sigh. I think it's great actually that you can leave to winge and sleep will result.

I'm fed up of his sleeping today. But I can't moan about it to TGO as he just suggests doing CC. Which we probably will end up doing, but at 6 months when recommended age is, and not at 3 months!

Actually I think Artie not v well last night / today. I'm feeling a bit coldy myself and he's deffo been more clingy than usual, has flushed cheeks and lots of bogey.

rollerbaby · 01/12/2010 11:43

I think my email read like a moan but I;m not really...honest. I'm actually v pleased that he is doing every 3 hours so regularly, and it is good that hes going down at 7pm for bed and giving us a bit of an evening. count my blessings! I'm going to persist with the BF I think as HV just been and he's put on another kilo in 12 days, maintaing his 98th centile growth which she says is v positive. Hes now 11, 10! So I guess if he's doing well, I should STFU and feed the littel man. It will get better as you say. I think I will try and express a bit more today and give it to him last thing and then carry formula around for emergency outdoors feeding! God I'm so all over the place...

CurlyCasper · 01/12/2010 12:03

That's a big boy honey! well done!

Hossy girls: I has posted an appeal on t'other place...

Cosmosis · 01/12/2010 12:05

wow, he's about as big as Artie, he was 11lb7 at last weigh in 2 wks ago! (just under 25th centile)

Backinthebox · 01/12/2010 12:39

Helloooo. Been having serious 'puter problems. The last remaining working computer in the house (OH has a computer and associated gadgets obsession) is in the process of giving up the ghost. So have not been able to get my internet fix, which is not helping my current mood. OH is absent. Bastard. I have done solo bedtime 6 nights in the last 10 due to OH having to work late, 'pop' up to Leeds (when the news was advising people not to travel due to the snow, but OH thinks that because he likes skiing this does not apply to him,) and playing in his band and going to the pub afterwards. He also worked on Sunday daytime too. I have had about 6 hours of 'time off' since a week last Monday, and am REALLY FED UP. To cap it all off Ma Jennie is ill and I am having to do the horses all by myself and my car has a flat battery too (TT likes to switch all the lights on, which doesn't do the battery much good.) I can't get OH to jump-start it as he got in from Leeds at midnight and left the house at 7am - and didn't tell me he had changed his plans meaning I didn't get my hour with the horses but without children this morning. I'm having to do them between LG's naps. TT is out at playschool - we had to walk there and nearly got taken out by a twatty white van man going far too fast and sliding on the icy road.

So there we go. Fun and games and happy happy joy joy at Chez Box.

As for this - "pretty women give birth to girls"? Must be the stress of having TT first that cost me what looks I had, turned me into a haggard wreck and resulted in me having a boy.

SilverSky · 01/12/2010 14:28

cas I sent you my preference re horsey stuff.

MB finishes feeding at just before noon and at half one he wants feeding again. Growth spurt ?

If the insomnia continues I may try a dummy next. As if he went back to sleep between the midnight and three am ish feed then I would be able to cope better. HI says he sees me shooting him evil looks of resentment as I see to MB cos he is snoozing away merrily in bed.

I managed my third bath in four weeks in last night. The diff between me and HI is I have to ask if he minds if I take a bath and he watches MB. Whereas when he does something he tells me and does it. I'd better stop moaning now..... I could go on and on and on....

Cosmosis · 01/12/2010 14:31

silv spot on re asking, so fucking frustrating. And sometimes when Artie starts doing his pre cry squeaking TGO just sits there! grrrrr.

CUNextTuesday · 01/12/2010 14:34

silv I know, I have the same thing...

ref feeding, don't know if it makes a difference to your thinking on this but feed gaps are measured from the start of one feed to the start of the next, so roughly 2 hour gap? Sounds about right, but may also be a growth/development blip if it is not normal practice...

Cosmosis · 01/12/2010 14:45

agree with cunty what time did feed start? that doesn't sound that unusual to me. I've lost count of the amount of times I've said "you can't be hungry AGAIN!" to him/

CurlyCasper · 01/12/2010 15:14

Thanks for hossy help silv. I have taken action based on your advice.

Squeaks eats little in the mornings and one and a half to two hourly in late afternoon/evenings. And she sleeps after about one and a half hours awake. If we were to go by the books this would be unusual, but I've just accepted it as The Way She Is.

All the babies will settle into their own little ways.

Another nap time tip, especially if you have an easily overstimulated babybee: create a tent over the pram/cot/whatever with a muslin or light blanket. Almost instant silence!

CluckyKate · 01/12/2010 19:27

Ha - he is clearly not snoozing if he can see you giving him evils. Gah....men can such wankers!!!

We never had to resort to a dummy as Little Chick found her thumb at 6 weeks & has sucked it furiously ever since - is permanently prune-like. Don't knock it though Curls, unlike a dummy a thumb can't be lost & it really helped her to self-settle and is great even now for silencing tantrums Grin

CurlyCasper · 01/12/2010 20:04

I see there can be benefits clucky, but my husband sucked his thumb until he had to get braces at 13. Whereas I chucked my dummy away before I was 2. If she finds her own thumb, fine. But I have no plans to guide it towards her mouth as MIL suggested...
I also like the way a dummy can be used to keep medicines etc in her mouth.Wink

Each to their own!

And for any other dummy converts, I have just discovered this

CUNextTuesday · 01/12/2010 20:11

So what happens here? I don't understand how that keeps the dummy in the babby's mouth

CurlyCasper · 01/12/2010 20:16

makes it easier for baby to find the dummy after dropping it. Squeaks usually loses it to places she can't reach - like under her own ears. but if the bunny is attached to the cot next to her she'll just have to move the bunny around to find it. also means they can't be thrown from the cot, Bear-style Grin. I'm ordering one now.

she also has a teether it should work with.

CluckyKate · 01/12/2010 20:19

Thumb-sucking doesn't necessarily lead to braces - am a living example of that.

Understand why you might not want to encourage it though.....as you say, each to their own.

OkieCokie · 01/12/2010 21:12

I plan to send the dummy to the dummy fairy when mini cokie is old enough to "reason with". He only has it for going to sleep and when I go and get him in the morning the first thing he does is finds it in his cot and hands it to me then demands Milk.

I have held off giving Peppa the dummy until tonight but in the evenings she is so fractious and she needs to suck and it is either suck on me or the dummy and she is happily chomping away on it now. Just figured if I was going to cave in a couple of weeks I may as well save myself a few weeks of grief in the evening now. Hopefully I will be able to wean her off it sooner than I have with mini C but I would be ok with her having it in the same way as he does. I object to kids wondering around with one constantly in their gob.

Muser · 01/12/2010 22:17

Hello FESHes. Am just popping in as we are updating the NotList and I am missing details for HRHRegina. I think I have got the rest of you recent layers ok cos I stalked you all on bookface like a ment. Haha.

SilverSky · 02/12/2010 07:03

Anyone had any experience of oral thrush in their baybees / nips? Pls to share experience / treatment given?

AlpinePony · 02/12/2010 07:18

That's really cute curly - if he didn't already have 8000 toys I'd be tempted with another! Wink We have (during the day time) his dummy on a string of beads www.difrax.nl/nl/shop/zuigen-en-bijten/fopspeen-accessoires/188,-1392/fopspeen-hartjes-ketting which clips on to his clothes - it stops the dummy being flung - however, on occasion, some bastard grabs the beads and rips them out of his mouth. Cue tears. Sooner or later he's going to figure out it's his own hand! Grin

Speaking of teeth, we've had a Grizzly Bear complete with flushed cheeks. He grabbed my finger yesterday and put it in his mouth - I had a feel around and there's definitely a hard, sharp ridge just under the skin on the lower gum. Hmm

silv I think we've all had it - rots is yer lady - pop her a mail on fb. I didn't get it in my nips (that I knew about) but treated with the stuff the doc gave for Bear. The stuff they gave for him didn't clear up all of the inside of his mouth, but it went of its own accord within about 10 days.

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CluckyKate · 02/12/2010 07:46

I thought I had it Silv - turned out to be calcium deposits on LC's gums (doctor said it was teeth - she was only 2 months old Confused ) and mastitis in my boob (angry red blotch appeared a few days later).

If it is thrush make sure they give you something to treat LG as well as you (asusming he has it too)....otherwise he'll pass it straight back to you when it clears.

Hooray for teeth Alps - another milestone ticked....he is growing up fast!!

AlpinePony · 02/12/2010 08:10

Kate - I love it, he's growing up daily. You can literally see day-by-day how dextrous he's becoming and the interest taken in things which previously weren't. This is going to sound a bit lame too - but I am loving watching his physical responses to situations and learning that they're not "taught", they're just human nature. E.g., when something happens he doesn't like (stranger holding him, mummy putting the blender on) the bottom lip is stuck out and trembling and when he's tired he balls his fists and rubs his eyes. Grin

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