IS THERE A SEPT 2005 CLUB YET?

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Hi all fellow September mums. If I'm duplicating another thread please tell me. If not, would love to hear how everyone is getting on.
Tom is a week old today. All well - though has a slightly infected cord stump so am going to GP today.
I'm still madly hormonal, could burst into tears whenever I think about the impact all this has on my lovely dd (2y2m).

Good morning all,
redhelen, leonie (dd1) is 6 too and goes between angelic and a little horror but has started settling down now.
i am also getting worried about rz, she hasn't posted since last thursday she's just hopefully too busy

sorry libby hadn't realised you had allredy posted on the feeding thread. Hope you are feeling ok and that the information/advice poted here on mn helps.

hi to all you new mums im afraid ive been lurkin a bit,
im eastyorksmum from the junie thread, my little boy is now three months.

I just wanted to say welcome and congrats to all you new mums and your lovely babies.

good luck xxxxx

Morning all

Quick note in support of libbyss - i was upset when midwife told me I'd have to top-up Conrad's feeds, had a long moan to very dear friend who gave me all the support I needed to have confidence in my own ability to b/f

DP bought formula as a 'just in case' measure and it's still sat there unopened!

what I do is express for when DP is doing a long stint of taking care of baby, this way he has confidence in my feeding ability as he's got visual proof of a 4oz bottle merrily disappearing into Conrad's tummy!

We're all happy!

I know expressing's not the most fun way to spend time, but it does mean others can (if Gil takes to the bottle) take the pressure off you just for one or two feeds...

And... it's totally normal for your little boy to cluster feed - Conrad has a pattern throughout the day of three feeds from morning to early evening then he demands his booby-mummy's presence in quick succession for about four or five feeds (sometimes more) up till around 11pm - then the little darling sleeps for a good 5 - 6 hours

I think your MIL is a bit on the controlling side

If you need to your local NCT Bumps and Babies group will have a breast feeding support worker to help you out

All the Best xxx

LadyL - I am just following GFs advice re feeds ie 7am, 1030, 1430, 1700, 1830, 2230 and then demand feed over night. Really try make sure dd gets these feeds and allow her more if she wants to. Especially 7am and 2230 ones. Theory is that they get enough calories btwn 7am and midnight so not as hungery overnight. Has allowed me to get 3.5 to 4 hr sleeps overnight which is an improvement for me!

GFs sleep routine for the day is not so easy so letting dd do her own thing but do wake her for feeds if she is asleep.

Where is everyone?

We are still spotty here but otherwise good .

i agree pc, it's dead in here, everyone busy with babies.
easyyorksmum, thank you and i must admit, i lurked on your anti natal thread too, i think i even posted once or twice wishing you all luck

just wondering how you're all getting on, heres a few questions if you have chance to fill them in
1.Hows everyones hormones?
2.How old are everyones babies now?
3.How is your baby sleeping?
4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)
5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?

My answers....

1. all over the place sometimes feeling guilty that i wasnt this happy when dd1 was born, also noticed im snappy with dd1 even though im trying hard not to then i feel guilty for that but other than that im really happy and feel im coping well with dd2.

2. 2 weeks today (cant believe that!)

3. Sleeping most of the time cant wake her in the day yet at night she seems to want to stay up- im lucky i gett he odd few nights when she only wakes to be fed then goes straight back down.

4. now having 4 ounces and has gained 1lb since birth.

5. this is the question im relying on you ladies to tell me as my dd1 is 6 now n im clueless.....

1.Hows everyones hormones?
2.How old are everyones babies now?
3.How is your baby sleeping?
4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)
5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?

My answers....

1. All over the shop still need to get down to gp and get them to check thyrooid function and iron levels as I feel worse than when i had dd. However this could be because I now have 2 little people to chase round after.

2. David was three weeks yesterday

3. 4oz every 2-5 hours can go through 8-9 bottles of expressed milk and formula a day. Has gone from 8lb 12oz at birth to 10lbwhen he was weighed on Saturday hv is happy and doesn't need to see him for a fortnight.

4. Pattern? wtf is one of those?

sleep deprived mummy missed a question- how is he sleeping - not veery well durring morning due to 3year old thinking he i a dolly, ok in afternoon whilst dd is at nursery. And goes 4-5 hours at a stretch during the night. People wonder why i look like a zombie.

Triny and suzanna would have a field day with my wardrobe as i am living in comfy tracky bottoms and t shirts at the moment. Can't see the point in buying any new clothes till i shift the weight. Signs are that thyroid levels aren't too bad because the weight is dropping off me which feels really odd because it has allways been a huge struggle to loose so much as a pound. I think expressing is helping too as well as eating sensibly and walking to and from nursery.

1. Raging hormones - one minute bobbing along quite happily, next minute turn into she-devil. Was ok really until esterday - but have stinking cold.

2. Tom is 5 weeks old today. 3. Not well during the day, but seems to sleep from 9pm ish until midnight, then 3 hourly wake ups until 7ish. 4. Bit of a feeding frenzy, but no idea how much as b/feeding. Put on more than 2 pounds in 3.5 weeks. 7 14 at birth, 10 2 at 3.5 weeks. 5. Getting a bit of a pattern - but has had terrible wind the last couple of days. Am trying to stick to feeds no more than 2 hourly to combat this.

1.Hows everyones hormones?

Up and down. Never too down but I feel a bit grumpy by the time evening comes and I can never put my finger on exactly what is making me feel that way. I'm so short tempered with dd1. I feel guilty once she is in bed and vow to be patient but some little thing sets me off and I forget the previous day's vow.

2.How old are everyones babies now?

3 weeks and 3 days. She started to smile this week - it's happening early because she was late.

3.How is your baby sleeping?

Night time sleep is OK. She goes down around 11pm and wakes once or twice between 11pm and 7am. She's normally easy to put back to sleep after a feed. During the day she either has a settled, sleepy morning and fretful afternoon or vice versa. This can be a pain as it means I cannot plan the day out, not knowing if I'll be feeding her all morning or all afternoon.

4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)

Breastfed so I have no idea but she seems to get a good feed and is putting on weight. She's had one bottle of ebm and took 4 oz from daddy and then had a big feed from me!

5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?

I think so but others may differ in their opinion.

Is anyone getting out much? I'm actually really bored. I've arranged for people to come round and see me - but I do get sick of the 4 walls of my house.

The problem is we just moved to a new area in July so I have yet to establish a pattern of taking DD to any toddler groups. I really don't feel like going out and meeting new people when I'm so tired I cannot string a sentence together, when I feel like no nice clothes fit me and I look dreadful. I think after DH's half term I will feel more up to going out and Alice should be a bit more predictable.

I had really wanted to have a Spring or summer baby this time (DD was a winter baby) but it did not happen. I imagine it must be easier to wake up to sunny days and to be able to get up and throw on a comfrotable sundress or loose trousers and sandals and go out for a walk everyday. Instead I see winter looming over the horizon and much too much hibernation tagged onto a summer when I was not able to get out much and walk.

How many months until Spring comes?

Questions - I love answering questions

1.Hows everyones hormones?

Generally OK - little blips now and again but am so much better han when DS was new. Sometimes deel guilty about that,

2.How old are everyones babies now?

3 weeks and 3 days

3.How is your baby sleeping?

Noght time good - slee[s from when we go to bed between 10 and 11 until morning (has about 3 feeds but straight back in moses basket afterwards)

4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)
5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?

Will come back later - DS demanding my presence

1.Hows everyones hormones? thyriod to be checked. feel very tired sometimes - but it's probably having the other 3 kids to deal with plus going to & from schools.

2.How old are everyones babies now?
2 & half weeks

3.How is your baby sleeping?
was sleeping now not sleeping at night. last night he slept from 00.30 to 2.30 & then dd woke to be sick & dd3 started shouting she'd lost her cuddly toy in her bed. got up at 5.30 as bf wasn't helping ds4 go back to sleep. went back to bed at 6.29 - at 6.30 dd1 got up to be sick again - ahhhh

4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)
am bf. ds was 4.570 kgs at birth, 4.500 kgs when left hospital & 5 kgs at 2 week check-up plus is 58cm.
5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?
probably - but i'm falling into a no-sleep & look wrecked pattern.

best wishes to all xxx

Good morning all
1.Hows everyones hormones?
2.How old are everyones babies now?
3.How is your baby sleeping?
4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)
5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?
1.) My hormones are up and down, but ok mostly except that i am depressed because no clothes fit me yet.
2.)Mia is now 5 weeks and 5 days
3.)we had a bad night last night, she was very unsettled, but generally great sleeping between 6 and 10 hours without waking but awake more in the afternoon between 3 and 6.
4.) Mia takes 5 or 6oz depending on how long it has been since her last feed, she was 8lb2 at birth and was 9 81/2 last wednesday.
5.) i don't know the answer to this one really as each baby is different. Mia has a pattern to a certain extent but not a strict one.

here's another one, what question do you hate other people asking you?
i can't stand it when people ask if it's a boy or a girl..... wouldn't mind but she has a pink blanket. i told someone she was a boy last week and she then asked me why i'd dressed him in pink??????? FFS

Beatie, in answer to your question, i never seem to be in much at the moment, i'm either at my parents, pils or friends houses, and often take dd1 to fun factory with my friend and her ds and Mia. I am having my first drinking session in 10 months on saturday night, it's mil's surprise 60th and dp is looking after kids whilst i prop the bar up LOL, i'll have 1 vodka and that will be it as i can't relax when dd1 is there never mind Mia. gutted though as i have to buy something to wear. sil is really thin so i'm gonna look huge.

Alice has gone to sleep finally (morning has been filled with her feeding, nearly going to sleep, being put somewhere where no nipple is in her mouth, waking up, screaming, having nappy changed etc. Then repeat).

DS and I have been watching television and playing with cars and puzzles in between the screams.

But I'm feeling all right - would never have felt like that when DS was that size. And we've managed to eat lunch.

I wish Alice wouldn't fight day time sleep so much. She seems to need a good (ie at least 2 hour) sleep some time around mid-late morning but persuading her to have it is a different thing. DH is better at it than me, but she often seems to sleep on him, which although I can do sometimes, isn't practical most of the time.

Will get back to answering the questions now.

1.Hows everyones hormones?

Generally OK - little blips now and again but am so much better han when DS was new. Sometimes deel guilty about that,

2.How old are everyones babies now?

3 weeks and 3 days

3.How is your baby sleeping?

Noght time good - slee[s from when we go to bed between 10 and 11 until morning (has about 3 feeds but straight back in moses basket afterwards) Day time sleep not always so successful (see rest of this message . Yesterday she seemed to sleep all day and all night - presumably growing.

4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)

Breastfed so I have no idea. But it seems to be enough (was 8lb 8oz on Tuesday from 7lb 11oz when born 3 weeks before). Think I may try expressing some time, although need to buy bottles first.

5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?

Not sure. I am quite happy with Alice's vague pattern, probably mostly because it includes sleeping at night (which is the bit that keeps me going the rest of the time). Anyway, I remember with DS that as soon as he seemed to have a routine it would change.

1.Hows everyones hormones?
2.How old are everyones babies now?
3.How is your baby sleeping?
4.How many ounces is baby eating per feed (if bottle)
5.Is it too early for them to develop a pattern yet?

Hi everyone sorry not been on much, but sooooo busy lol

Hormones are fine, didn't even get baby blues or tearful when milk came in....wierd

Noah is 12days today and sleeps for between 5 n 7nhalf hours at night and morning nap n afternoon

Am breast feeding but he's gained 10 and a half ounces since last friday!

Not sure lol

hope everyone is well

At the moment beatie, I am not going out at all. Slight lie; since Saturday I have been out for 2 hours. But this is due to DS's chicken pox, rather than not having anywhere to go. I need to leave the house, but am not brave enough to take both DS and DD to the park as last time I did that she screamed a lot, DS was in his wellies and couldn't climb up the slide with them on so he ended up with very wet socks and I was too strssed afterwards.

DH is talking about painting our bedroom this weekend. I am thinking about going off to London on a train (would obviously take Alice). Won't do it really but haven't travelled as far as that for ages.

thank you mummyhill for popping in junies thread, I know it all a bit tiring and hard hard work, especially you breast feeding mums, i did bf my baby boy until hes was 2 months but im afraid i wasnt producing enough milk so we weaned him of bf and gradualy started botle feeding.

Anyway it will get easier and remember you just do your best, you cant expect to know everything, where not supper mums, i have a 16 year cap between my youngest boy and my baby boy, im a fourth time mummy and Nursery Nurse and i find it hard.

Good luck ladies if any of you want advice or a chat you are quite welcome to come over to junie thread xxxxxxxx

Hello all. Ooh, I like these questions!

1 Hormones - have got over the weepy stage and am afraid have developed a temper this week. DH risking his life if he dares to criticize/suggest anything. Am being a bit stern today with DS1 as I am so pissed off with him saying no, running off when we are out and not settling in bed. Have found a perfect time out cubby hole in our house which he hates!! He is having a nap now as I speak!

Think the other hormones might be raging at the moment which should please DH if I can stay awake this evening!

2 Tom is now just over 7 weeks

3 Naps well during the day, sleeps 7pm until 10.00 pm, then usually just wakes about 2 or 3am during the night ( until last night but lets hope that was a one off!)

4 Feeding wise I'm a bit of a mix and matcher! Have no probs technically with BF but it takes Tom so long to feed and with DS1 running riot, I'm doing a lot of expressing ( very speedy expresser here!!) and feeding him BF from a bottle for a couple of feeds. I'm mangaging to BF about 3 times a day still, plus formula in the night.

5 Am a bit obsessed with patterns myself but have been a lot more relaxed this time. I think day times just sort themselves out but I strongly believe in a bedtime routine from an early age and baby upstairs for the evening so you can have some time to yourself.

Hi all

Feeling absolubtley cr*p this morning.DS Slept from 11 - 4 yipee but then all hell broke loose. He was having his feed dd wet the bed and dh started throwing up. ds was sorted and put down dh was thrown in shower, dd was changed vbut wouldn't go back to bed because we were all up. Eventually got all three settled in my bed whilst i scrubbed bathroom. Then ds required another feed and it was time to get up and pack dh off to work with strict instructions to keep mouth shut when under cars so that he doesn't ingest any more brake fluid or antifreeze so i don't have i repeat of lastnight.

Did someone on this thread have a link to a site about massaging the breast while expressing in order to get more milk out? I've checked and checked and can't find it. But then I am so exhausted that it is quite likely that I just missed it. Can someone please post it again?

Have expressed and will get dh to try dd on the bottle for the first time tonight.

Had my worst day today. DD is 4 weeks old today. I am SHATTERED by lack of sleep. Feel totally inadequate as I'm ready to chuck in bf and don't have any problems other than the frequency of the feeds and lack of sleep.

I know that part of my stress is trying to keep doing my job as a lawyer (I have my own business). DH was going to take over for me (he is also a lawyer) when dd was born, but dh works as a researcher and is behind in his research and so has been flat out busy with that, which means that I've had to keep my business running (and am stressed knowing that I am falling behind with my work - which I hate). I did try hiring someone to help me out before dd was born, but he turned out to be a nightmare, and I realised that it is too expensive to pay a worker, because my business is small and income is not huge.

sorry to whine, but was nearly in tears today. Just had enough, really.

Morning Kate and Mummyhill - hope you are both feeling a bit better.

Mummyhill - adding vomiting husbands to all this stress and lack of sleep really buggers things up I guess! Hope he keeps his mouth shut today! ( wish mine would)

Kiwikate - I found that expressing was the best thing I could have done to help with getting more sleep. I'm lucky as I can pump for Britain but I know a lot of people really struggle. There is a thread under breast/bottle feeding ( I'm crap at doing links) called something like the "expressing clique" Have a read of their posts as there are some good ideas. Make sure you look after yourself and dd - I can't begin to imagine how difficult it must be trying to keep your business going.