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waitinggirl · 21/10/2010 08:18

oops. sorry. didn't realise i was post 1000. hope people find this...

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Rubena · 29/10/2010 19:49

clearly it was dh that stopped on the way home from work. DS doesn't work yet. And Gald?

Rubena · 29/10/2010 19:51

sorry ! still ore! Not sure what leggins and coots are!! but I might wear this top with my leggings and Boots. I hope I don't look like mutton trying to dress up like lamb Hmm

Rubena · 29/10/2010 19:52

still ore????? Oh I need to stop typing or at least preview!!!

DeidreBarlow · 29/10/2010 20:01

Rubes Ithought you were onto some hot new trend with your 'coots' Grin

Spot sorry that you are now ill and you have had to cancel your holiday. Although its good news the steroids appear to be working.

Summer hooray for some sleep!!

Jam did you get TT tickets? I didn't but now I've thought about it I am much more of a fan of them minus Robbie. I fear he may try and take over and that would really irritate me! DH told me to buy some off another site but they were twice the price and I couldn't bring myself to pay it.

Right DH is out with his pals tonight (its been months!!) So I have custody of the remote and a bottle of wine, happy days Smile

DeidreBarlow · 29/10/2010 20:04

Lady, forgot to say. I completely understand where you are coming from. Yes DP is tired when he comes home but I really do think men (well some) underestimate how hard it can be at home with 2 small children. Ideally, it would be nice if when he got home you could have an hour on the bed with a book or in the bath, and he do the next feed. Anything really just to give you some time to 'switch off' from kiddie mode. And yes I think he should either do a night feed also.

traceface · 29/10/2010 20:17

Hi Ladies :)
Half term has been keeping me away from the laptop but the girls are now in bed, and DH is on the playstation so I can catch up here for a bit!
I know there'll be loads that I've missed and meant to respond to, but so much time has passed that converstaions here have all moved on...!
Anyway - superspot I wish I could come over and help you out. I'm so sorry you're all ill and that your promised break has had to be cancelled Sad I really hope you're all feeling better soon. On the steroid thing - I think the one that disolves in water is Prednisolone, whereas your one was Dexamethasone wasn't it? It's used lots and my dd1 had it several times for croup when she was younger, with no adverse effects (that I'm aware of!), so I'd be confident that it'll help little T.
WG I'm glad you and DH can talk so freely about things now and that he's ok with the idea of some individual counselling. IME with depression, it's often the fear of feeling as bad as you used to that makes you feel worse than your really do, if that makes sense? So with lack of sleep and madam being unwell, that's a huge reminder (as others said) of those early days, which brings a huge fear of returning to that state again. For me I have to tell myself 'that was then, this is now', otherwise I spend so much time fearing how I'll be, that I end up like it again. If you can catch that thought and concentrate on 'now', it's so much easier to climb back up. Or maybe that's just me Grin
jam that reminds me - how is your friend? Has she picked up at all or got any help? I'm glad you spoke to her dp. From your description it sounded very much like PND to me.
Re eating...P is a bit hit and miss really. She can have days where she'll wolf down a lasagne or a caserole, and others where she turns her nose up at everything. And sometimes she'll refuse a cooked tea, so we put it in her bag for nursery the next day and she eats the lot there! (might be worth a try for you too Summer!) There must be peer pressure among these LOs! Tonight she wouldn't touch her tea (lasagne which she gobbled down the other night Hmm) and just started crying and pushing it away and clamping her mouth shut, so she went to bed having had just a yoghurt. And whether that affects her sleep I've no idea, as that seems as random as everything else does!
ladyt you asked me a while ago about the girls' bedtimes. L has always gone down at around 6.30 ish, but now it's more like 6.45 (then story so we leave her room about 7pm). Having said that, some days she'll read or talk to herself for up to an hour, but she knows that she stays in bed from 7. P has (since sleeping through - which was only at 16 months) gone down at 6pm and slept till about 6.45am, although over the past week or so it's been more like 6.30pm. They just both seem tired at that time and sleep well, although I guess we might have programmed them like that in a way, because from quite early on we knew we (selfishly) wanted 'our' evening so have always put them to bed at those times. I think it's about the right amount of sleep for them but all children are so different so I guess others can survive on much less sleep. I know L particularly never catches up on sleep (ie if she gets a late night she still wakes before 7am) and when she's tired she's horrible, so it just seems the best thing that she goes at that time. Sorry that was no doubt way more information than you wanted! Now in relation to your dp, it's certainly tricky. I think your recovery is a big factor so it's hard to compare with others. I feel that while you are still having difficulty with a lot of things (lifting, carrying...) then you should be getting lots of help with the kind of things that you're doing when the girls allow you to - washing, laundry, meals etc. Can dp load the washer before bed? Just simple things to allow you to REST in the day if the girls happend to be asleep at the same time. The more you try to do at the moment, the longer you will take to heal (as veggie continues to remind you!!!). Once you're feeling stronger - and as Rubes says in a few weeks time when 'routines' start to form a little - then perhaps you need a conversation about what you expect from each other. I found with P that I was happy (as happy as you can be!) to do the night feeds, because I saw that it was my 'job' while I was on maternity leave. But our sticking point was late afternoon, when I was pooped and just waiting for dh to arrive home and relieve the burden, whereas dh was pooped from work and just waiting to get home and chill out for a bit! Sometimes he'd come in and read a book or open the lap top and I'd feel so jealous (still do!) because all I'd wanted to do all day was take 30 minutes to myself to switch off. I think it helped when we realised each other needed space - and if I gave hime his post work chill out he was then better at getting on with the later things (tea, bath, stories, bed). Sometimes I wanted to make tea just so I could leave the room and not have a child near me Blush, and other times that was too much hard work and I'd ask him to do tea while I stayed with the girls. I'm not sure that it's resolved now TBH - some days work better than others, but I think the fact that they're both quite early to bed means that by 8.00 we're usually pretty sorted, cleared up, fed, watered and packed lunches made for the next day, so we always have a good hour or 2 to chill before bed (which we spend with me on MN and him on the PS3 Grin) Although his chilling time starts while I make packed lunches Hmm
I'm really waffling tonight aren't I?!
We're off to my sister's tomorrow to stay the night, then seeing my parents on Sunday and leaving L there for a sleep over because she has another teacher training day at her school on Monday while DH and I are both at work. Right pains these training days! I'm looking forward to seeing them all, but anxious because it'll cost a bit in petrol and things are Not Good money-wise at the moment. Eek. I'm thinking we might have to stop L's dancing lessons, although I might ask my parents if they can fund it for a while. It's so hard isn't it - everything costs money. Well, most things. I try not to worry but it's just THERE putting a black cloud over every decision. Sorry. I know we're so well off compared to a lot of people, whose children have never had a dance lesson, but it's a pricey world we live in.
Right. Must stop typing.
Grin Sorry if my ramblings have sent you to sleep.
Oh and Hi to the 'old' faces!

traceface · 29/10/2010 20:24

sorry X-posted with lots there and didn't realise how massive my post was Blush
deids how is your grandad today?

Rubena · 29/10/2010 20:25

Hello Trace - yes dh just turned on the PS3 as well as he has a new game Hmm so I have thrust the Take away menu at him and am back on here!
I must agree, although I have said 'we do this and we do that here', it is very much a case by case situation, in that if dh has a couple of half days and has had a good lay in, or doesn't have too much on in his other work, or if I'm just extra shattered then he does a lot more. I think you have to really work it like that.

Deids, how's the G'parents? Oh and your night sounds relaxing - cheers Grin

DeidreBarlow · 29/10/2010 20:31

Hi Trace . Grandad is okay today, I think thats down to yesterdays drugs. But once they wear off we'll be back to square one. The worst of it all is this prolonged suffering. I don't want him gone but if it stops all his suffering then surely thats got to be better?! Mum is staying with my Nan tomorrow for some company. They are going to get a take away and watch X Factor, my nan has never ordered a takeaway and seems Confused by proceedings!

Cheers rubes, I have a lovely rose. DD picked it because it was pinkBlush. Its surprisingly nice thoughGrin

traceface · 29/10/2010 20:37

I have just eaten 503 calories worth of minstrels Grin yum.

Rubena · 29/10/2010 20:49

Mines a lovely Australian Red [Yum]
I have just banned dh from playing this game in front of ds until he's about 18 Grin It's so realistic! Dinner is going to be ages as they are busy.... bugger.

traceface · 29/10/2010 21:02

Rubs I have banned dh from playing some of his games in front of me! I can't bear the shooty ones. He's playing Fall Out at the moment I think - I'm not really paying attention! L loves playing Little Big Planet with him Grin

traceface · 29/10/2010 21:05

Rubs my dh wants to know what your dh is playing Grin

Rubena · 29/10/2010 21:09

Trace - he said he's playing "Call of Duty 4' and providing air support to ground units from an AC-130 gunship" - Hmm He's also got 'assasins Creed 2 but hasn't played it yet. He wants to know what your dh is playing now Grin

Rubena · 29/10/2010 21:11

Oh Trace I cross posted! he said "it's the one in Las Vegas right"?

traceface · 29/10/2010 21:25

that's the one!

traceface · 29/10/2010 21:27

oh he's finished now so we're going to play a Blue Toad mystery game together now Hmm

DeidreBarlow · 29/10/2010 21:29

Grin Trace I don't know what that is but it sounds funny!!

Rubena · 29/10/2010 21:30

It has been turned off and we are now watching Home & Away Blush and yes it was recorded from earlier BlushBlushcringeworthy but addictive Grin (more him than me.
have a good night Trace!

traceface · 29/10/2010 21:32

he he it's a game where you have to solve a mystery by solving lots of puzzles and mind games, and it is quite funny Grin

JamInMyWellies · 29/10/2010 21:34

Trace I raise your minstrels with a packet of wotsits and half a pack of custard creams. Grin

God alive what a day have had some friends over this arvo and the kids were mental. Constant screaming and running around. I cooked them a sort of party tea and let them help themselves all they all ate was the cocktail sausages. So instead of the delicious piri piri chicken I was making DH & I have eaten left over party food.

Trace thanks for asking about my friend. I have spokent oher loads this wk and she says she is a bit better. Her DP contacted me the other day to let me know he had taken her to the Docs who has prescribed a mild AD. Think it is mostly just taking her a bit of time to adjust to being a mum.

Lady I read your post this morning but didnt get a moment to respond. As usual I think you have had some sound advice form the lovely ladies today. You are at that shitty point where you are exhausted and it all seems such bloody hard work. I have found that when things are tough I do tend to just soldier on and get more and more resentful until it bubbles up and I end up ranting at DH. When it does he always says you just have to ask. Which does hack me off as he should see I need help. SO I reckon you need to say when you get in from work we both need to do bath time and settling together then he can have some quiet time work on pre trial stuff etc. His home life work balance and previous end of the day routine needs to be adjusted so that you get that extra help at the end of the day. I like to call that time between tea and be suicide hour!

SPot you guys have been through the mill this wk. I lso meant to say to you the other day about staying at home days for us involve alot of movies. WOuld T sit through Toy Story or Cars? Also we do mucho play dough, puzzles train track building or get lots of cooked spaghetti dip it in paint and let him make spaghetti paintings. Oh also put a load of chairs together chuck a duvet over the top and voila indoor camping. Or get T a dog works wonders on bored children tehy dress him up and chase him around the house.

WG am glad you and your DH can talk about the need for councelling.

DB no buggering TT tickets unless we go VIP. Now I do love TT but I refuse to pay 150squid per ticket. We reckon Ebay nearer the dates will be the best bet. Have bought and sold tixs before on ebay and never had a bad experience.

Brain scramble off to watch shitty TV. Anyone watching The Event. Am sure its going to turn into a ruddy Lost esque pantomime.

Lovely weekends all. x

Rubena · 29/10/2010 22:01

Take away was yum. Vaggie where are you? Fully entrenched in Take away I'd imagine.
Hello jam. I can 2nd that dog thing... Although she's annoying me right now begging for just one more prawn cracker, she does spend hours chasing ds around the house and garden in Summer and he giggles and giggles! Right - I'm watching pre recorded Ramsay's best so must go.

KiwiPanda · 30/10/2010 11:00

Hello all. Have some serious catching up to do - hope everyone is well - have I missed any big news? Both mine and DH's laptop died recently so really hard to follow at home as DD doesn't like me looking at big computer and ignoring her - and work super busy x

modernlove · 30/10/2010 12:02

Morning ladies. It's been a while! I hope everyone well and all those with new babies are getting on ok.

I had started to try and do a little catch up just as the Apprentice started on wednesday and was going to moan about being 9days overdue when out of the blue started getting quite strong contractions. Held on til 2am with the tens machine and then went to labour ward - was 9cm and had a baby girl one hour later. Had hoped for a water birth but when it came to it I refused to let go of the tens machine!
Such a different experience than with DS with the induction/epidural/forceps etc. We left hospital four hours later. DS seems quite taken with her so far and keeps trying to show her his books and toys. We are struggling to name her though!

Anyway, I just thought I'd update as although I'm terrible at keeping up and haven't even managed to lurk I do often wonder how you are all getting on. xx

sybilfaulty · 30/10/2010 13:00

Wow, ModernLove, what a fab update! Many congratulations.

Hello Kiwi, good to see you.

Am about to do a halloween party. Only 6 kids though inc mine so not too awful, and all kids we know well. Wish me luck.