May 2010 - Drooling, smiling, cooing and nearly sleeping through (and that's just the mummies!)

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Hi Ladies,

I hope you don't mind, I started a new thread as our first one was quite full! I can't believe we're a quarter-way through the first year already!

Cross post angel - we got a bargain bumbo too. £20 including tray and postage and she loves it. Good luck re scan tomorrow and with the house. Make an appointment for yourself soon. It could be postnatal/stress but you need to look after yourself x

Pamelat - glad you had a good night, fingers crossed it's not a fluke.

Angel - good luck with the scan and the house. The night sweats sound awful :( I had them badly a few weeks ago but gone now.

Mollycuddles - I'm doing Weight Watchers atm and have lost a stone in the last few weeks so feeling very good. This week probably not so good though, with all the travelling at the weekend I think I ate quite badly and need to get myself back into the swing of it. No chance to get exercise in though really, very impressed you've managed some!

My dad's friend in Greece sent me a handmade ring sling in the post. It's gorgeous! Looking forward to trying it out, looks like Corin might prefer it to the wrap sling for now.

Took Corin to a 'Learning Together' session at the children's centre today as well which was nice although I'm always a bit uncomfortable with the more structured sessions - I'm very very shy in RL and get nervy about having to introduce myself etc.

christmas! angel i am impressed, i usually have lists by now but this year have none yet and am stressing

i have also had night sweats, 1am every night! weird

we also went swimming today, 2nd visit, virginia has a wetsuit which i think keeps her a bit warmer, today i did the deliberate dunk.... twice...up to her eyebrows, she NEARLY cried, then got invited to join some mums in a local coffee shop for lunch, it was so nice to meet 'flesh' people iykwim, i love chatting to you all here and on fb but it isnt quite the same as face to face, ml , i am looking forward to monday..

back tomorrow,
good night all xx

Quick hello, so sorry I keep meaning to do a long post but just never seem to get time :(

pamela and all others suffering at night; I feel your pain! We've been having an awful time too with constant wakings. Can't remember if I've already posted about this but we've been trying dh going to him at his first 2 wakings (10pm and 1am) and just rocking him back to sleep, giving 1oz of ebm if he is really fussing. It's taken less time each night to get him back to sleep and then last night he didn't wake til 3, yippee! So hopefully his body is getting the message that he won't be fed if he wakes then!
We've just found out dh is facing redundancy for second time in a year :( 5 of his team of 7 are to go and he was the last to join :(

heffa well done for going to that session :) I'm really shy too and have to force myself to talk to people. I went to a rhyme time at local library yesterday and tried to chat to some of the mums but they all seemed uninterested which was a shame :(

first have you seen the psychosexual therapist yet? Hope you're ok.

Really want to add more personals but need to go express before bed! And meh, have just heard the little man wake up...so much for getting the message!!

Sassles- My front room looks like an ELC store! Bless little Sam enjoying it. Wait till hes a toddler and screaming cause he doesnt want to leave the shop!

SK- Raspberry blowing is Lucy's favourite trick now too.
:( your feeling down. It must be hard with so many little ones- Hats off to you!

Millington- Lucy is the same. Even after numerous burps she still brings lots back. She always covers the clothes ive just dressed her in! She doesnt seem upset at all like ive read about reflux?!

Hollyoaks- The celebrations sound lovely. The photos are great and it looks like an emotional but good time was had everyone. What a lovely thing to do.

Lucy had her 3rd lot of jabs today (3 injections!). Nurse was running 30 mins late so Lucy was starting to get hungry, which made her even worse. She screamed the surgery down! Proper full on screaming the poor thing.
Popped in the supermarket for a few bits and DD1 decided it was her turn to scream. Full on screaming kick tantrum! All for no apparent reason! Dont you just love 2yr olds!

Spent the afternoon attempting to make a start on Potty training. Afternoon in knickers with one accident but no sucesses either.- Ho hum.
Bad mummy for saying this but the whole thought of potty training fills me with dread. Cant they just stay in nappies forever!?

Been playing with the new Photography background I bought now that jobs are appearing quite quickly :)
Please be honest, Im trying to work out prices... Would you pay £70 for a photo shoot in your home and a disc of all the edited photos for you to print out as you wish, average of 30/40+ pics depending how well the baby likes the camera. Thoughts please...

Carikube- Stooopid HV. Mine rang today to book Lucy in for a 4mth check up. Never had that with DD1.

Homebirth- Not boring us with the pictures.. They are fab. Agree about the lovley wedding pics... How on earth did you find out about getting married there?
Christmas- I have most of DD1's presents already under my bed.

BRB- glad to hear from you :)

Pamlet- Hope your good nights continue :)

Angel- Lucy loves her Bumbo but has to 'share' it with DD1 who still fits in it at 2.

Molly- I really need to do some exercise but with the 2 kiddies and no family help theres just no time and im too knackered by the time the kids go to bed to go the gym or anything. Ive been abit better with my eating this week so its a start!

Heffa- The class sounds good. Im sure you will be more relaxed the more you go. At toddlers on Tuesday I went into the Baby room with Lucy but DD1 kept following in me to check I was still there and a few of the other mums were looking very techy about having a toddler round their PFB's. I was making sure DD kept a wide berth but felt abit unwelcome by them. I guess Lucy will have to have to stay sitting on my lap watching her sister hare round like a looney.

Hi everyone,

Bit of a me post coming I'm afraid as feeling a bit delicate ...

Harry's sickyness after 48 hrs on SMA staydown is worse not better I saw every hour last night apart from 12 & 4 which just shows me he's just not keeping down enough from his daytime feeds as that's such a regression in his sleep. He's back on his normal formula but I'm trying infant gaviscon (currently guzzling his 1st bottle). My hopes are high but fear I'm going to come crashing down soon.

Millie went back to nursery last week and she's cried every morning. Was too tired to be strong this morning so was teary too at drop off. When she tells me she doesn't want me to leave I just want to scoop her up & take her home. I hate seeing her sad even though I know in the long run it's for her own good. She's also done 3 wees in her pants this morning (she's always so reliable) ... her way of telling me she's unsettled

MIL came to babysit last night as DH & I went to a school open eve. It's 1hr 20mins drive for her so she always stays over. I'm very grateful she was able to come at all but the only thing is she arrived at the last minute and left at 7.15am. Mills was so disappointed not to spend more time with her. It makes me sad that they (PIL) don't make more time for her. We're going on hols altogether on Sat so she'll see her all the time next week but that's not really the point. I had to answer the "grandma here now?" question every 5 minutes yesterday afternoon and then see her little face sink when grandma came in to say good morning & goodbye all in the same breath.

Oh and the for sale board went up today. Moving out of London is the right decision for us all but it doesn't make me any less sad to leave or terrified about starting a new life where I know nobody.

Time to find some chocolate and cheer up me thinks :)

Millingtonsmummy - sorry you're having a tough time :( Your poor DD, it's really sad when grandparents don't make an effort for the little ones. Hope Harry improves soon.

Pigley - some mums do seem very protective of their little ones around toddlers, which is fair enough but it can make me feel a bit awkward. I'm not looking forward to potty training either. DD seems very ready (keeps taking her nappy off and using the toilet of her own accord ) but we've been delaying it because of wedding/holiday because want the security of nappies. Will probably make a proper start when we get home I think. Prices for your photography sound good :) I'd like to get photos done, but everywhere I've seen down here looks viciously expensive (hundreds normally) so £70 seems reasonable.

Cupcakefairy - shame the mums at rhyme time weren't interested :( Some people don't seem to want to chat at all. I think if you keep going then people start recognising you and then chat to you. What I'm rubbish at is that although I know people and chat when I bump into them, I want to form closer friendships but I always feel awkward about inviting people round/to the park. I'm always worried that everyone else seems to have loads of friends and might not fancy it. What would you all think if someone you chatted to at groups every now and then asked to meet up? Would you think it was weird?

Just went to the learning together session for 2-3yo. Was a bit of a nightmare, DD not happy. Was just tantrumming like crazy near the end. I think she was unsettled because we took them all outside to pick up leaves then took them back inside again and she didn't want to outside and then didn't want to come back in IYSWIM? Oh well, lots of other kids seemed unhappy too.

hi all,
cupcake, sorry to hear about your DH's job, you must be so stressed out!

pigley, re. all your toys, i tried to start a fb discussion about toys last week but i dont think anyone has seen it yet....
as for potty training, how old is your dd? my 1st i started at 2y3m and she was not reliable, dd2 started at 2y6m, she told me she was ready and refused night nappies all on the same day and NEVER had an accident, dd3 started at 2y4m with a kidney problem and again was not reliable, if it were me and she did not have to be trained for nurery i would wait until she said she was ready, but i am a bit lazy tbh.
photography price is excellent, the last photographer i worked for charged a flat fee of £90 per shoot hour and that covered all editing posting and discs, dont undervalue yourself, try advertising at a new opening rate of £70 but tell everyone you are charging 90 or 100 after christmas, see how it goes

millingtonsmummy, so sorry you having a bad time, definately find the chocolate!

heffa, i feel the same about asking people round, how long do you need to wait before asking somone but before you miss the 'window'

anyway, gotta go, i am wanted. back tomorrow xxx

The chocolate helped, some zzzzzzz will help more! Night all. :)

Morning all. Or is it afternoon? DD3 been up since 4.15!!Shock to the system, she's slept through for quite a while now!! She's 16 weeks today!

Cupcake sorry to hear about DH's job. Redundancy is a nightmare. DH was made redundant on the 1st december one year....great for christmas...NOT!..Hope he find something else soon

Millingtonsmummy Sorry you are having a tough time. I hope you get to the bottom of the sickiness soon. Where are you moving to? We are hoping to move out of this area soon. Glad the chocolate helped!

pigley i think most people dread the potty training! I have found all of mine different!!

Bumbo arrived 'hardly used' my a*!!! It was filthy and had holes in! Not happy!!

We find out today if we get the house or not. Not holding out much hope, I think they would have contacted us by now if we had got it, I have to check the website at 3 to see where on the list we are....

Am feeling delicate today as well. Had another run in with the woman who assaulted me 18 months ago, I am debating trying to get an injunction or something. It's getting to the point I don't want to leave the house

BUT a tiny bit of good news, dd3s growth spurt must have done something as her ultrasound showed a massive improvement in her hips and the harness is off already!!! The consultant was really pleased at how quick it had worked!! Proper cuddles now and back into her lovely 3-6 month clothes now as shes not got to wear massive ones to fit over her harness!!

Millington- :( to hear the sickness has got worse. Lucy is pretty sicky too so I know how frustrating it is to see it coming back up.

Im sure Millie will settle in again soon.. sleep deprivation and pulling on the heart strings arent a good mix!

Chocolate is a great healer!

Heffa- Know what you mean when mums are protective. Understandable but makes us feel excluded :(
Nightmare about the session but you dont feel so bad when yours isnt the only tantruming toddler do you :)

Homebirth- DD1 is 2.2 yrs. Great toy discussion... Come on ladies, join in :)

Angel- Shame about the Bumbo :(
Any news on the house yet?
FAB FAB news about the harness Must be so nice to have cuddles without it!

Second day of potty training here.. Yesterday 1 accident but no results on the potty. Today no results but no accidents yet. Either shes very good at holding it in or has a large bladder!
Admittedly I never seem to have to go that often so maybe she will take after me??
I wish there was a magic switch that trained them :)

Pigley and Millington sorry re sickyness. Am a bit worried myself as Alex was never sick and then in the last week has started to be sick at least once a day (quite a lot). I was worried that it coincided with starting baby rice so I stopped but no improvement (he had only had a total of 2 teaspoons of the stuff so I figure unlikely???)

Had 2 solo days with them both and survived. I am finding it is getting easier, mainly because Alex doesnt feed all day anymore BUT I find that as soon as DH comes home, I collapse. I sort of "hand over" and get very frustrated if he doesnt do things my way (unreasonable I know) and we have ended up in big shouting rows. His point (understandably I know) is that he has been at work all day and walks in to total charge of 2 kids My point is that the hardest bits have been done, tea, baths etc and I just want 15 mins. I feel a bit like I cant cope by the time he gets home?

Re meeting people, I dont think its weird at all. Have happily given my mobile out at toddler groups, text is an easy way to arrange a neutral meet up before inviting someone to your house.

£70 sounds reasonable to me. My SIL is wedding and baby photographer and think they start at £100.

angel,yay on the harness going! you must be absolutely delighted!
tonight virginia had 50 minutes of what i call nudey play, she loves being naked and lifts her tummy over and over again for raspberry blowing, she also likes to play hidey boo with a muslin and we have expanded it so that if she exposes her tummy she gets a raspberry reward..she learnt VERY quickly.
tonight we brought out our tickly hands and we got our very first belly chuckle. it was so lovely! her daddy said he could cry...bless.
she has just started intentionally wrapping herself around my neck too, so cute.
have a good weekend x

Angel - so happy that DD's harness is coming off, what a relief! Hope you got the house. Must be horrible running into the woman who assaulted you :(

Pamelat - glad it's getting a bit better. I think the end of the day is always tough, if I'm going to have a meltdown it's often then even though I know the day is nearly over?

Homebirthmummy - lovely news re the chuckle :) I love them laughing. Corin loves being naked too, he cheers up as soon as he realises his clothes are coming off then rolls around lots.

Off on holiday tomorrow, yay! Hope everyone has a good week.

we didn't get the house devastated doesn't even come close we really really wanted to start afresh somewhere else.....

I have been up since 3.15 with an upset tummy. Just drifted off to sleep at 5 then dd3 woke up. She's not slept through as well as she has done the past few nights. I've tried the hungry baby milk but she still takes just as much of that and she doesn't settle for any longer. Be cracking the baby rice open soon I think!! She's constantly chewing her fists and trying to bat my dinner plate!

heffa have a great holiday

HB the first proper chuckles are lovely aren't they!!??

pamelat sometimes I don't think some men really understand what it takes to run around after the kids all day and keeping the house!

pigley the potty training sounds like its going ok!!

Suppose I had better crack on. I've got a storming headache though and such a queasy tummy. I need to go to the shop though debating letting my responsible ds go for me though??!...will be the first time though!!....

gooooooooooooooooood morrrrrrrrrrrrniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnng, vietnam!

hi, i am back, i'll try to catch up and do a lot of personals later,

got back yesterday, oscar is truly a traveller, cried a little on the airport, we had to wake him up to pass security, but apart from that, even slept trough the whole landing, envious parents looking at us from the back row...

today, celebrating my birthday, it was yesterday, but flying is difficult, lets see what dh has in store for me...

Morning all - am sleep deprived here. The 16 week growth spurt has arrived with a vengeance. :)

welcome home wltk - sounds like a successful trip and great that Oscar is a good traveller. Hope you had a nice belated birthday.

Hope you're having a better few days millingtonsmummy. It's awful when both dcs are demanding extra at the same time. Hope a solution to Harry's sickyness is found soon.

£70 sounds very reasonable for a photo shoot and disc, pigley. I've certainly spent more than that before. I think the idea that this is an introductory price is good. Well done you!

I well remember that feeling pamelat of counting down the minutes to dh getting home. I think you need to talk about it with him. Does he have much of a drive home? If so then he needs to use that time to get out of work mode. You've mentioned getting back to exercise. That would be a good plan for regular time away from dcs. You sound very organised with the dcs routine but you've got it so that dh isn't doing the hard stuff so doesn't know how hard it is. He'd be more understanding of your need to escape if he's experienced it.

So sorry about the house angel. Are there any other possibilities? But yeh re the harness. Fantastic news. So sorry your eBay bumbo experience hasn't been a good one. Hope you're feeling better from the tummy upset.

Hope the holiday goes well heffa. That session sounds so badly thought out. Some people just don't get toddlers, do they? I'm not managing much exercise. I'm trying to leave Molls with dh so I can do 25 mins with the plan to build that up to an hour in the next month or so. Then I can go to classes. My weight loss is going well but will slow down soon. I'm being very strict with myself about sweet stuff, but a lot of that is an example to dh whose diabetes is way out of control. We had visitors on Friday who brought buns and dh just couldn't resist and his sugars reached dangerous levels. He very nearly had to go to hospital. Hopefully he'll learn his lesson but it does prove we can't have any sweet stuff in the house. Which is good for my diet. But I did feel a bit deprived yesterday with the 16 week feeding marathon - cake would have been lovely.

How cute re the tickling and giggling homebirthmummy. This is such a cute stage.

Hope you're ok sk. Read another thread where you seemed to be under extra stress. Lots of love.

Apologies to those I've missed. Happy Sunday everyone.

Oh, cupcake that sounds so stressful re dh's job. Really hope it all gets sorted soon.

ok, attempt at personals, in 3 weeks you wrote 8 pages....!, there we go...

ok, this is too much, i'll start afresh.

hols were wonderful, all family is really happy and we discovered that oscar looks like his greatgrandfather, dad side, we have the chance to go out without him or grandad take him for a walk, mixed feelings about those, nice to have a beer with dh in a pub, not so happy baby is out of sight...lots of presents from everyone, all very thoughtful, clothes thinking of british winter time, etc,... his savings account is grown quite a bit too... he's also taken to nap in the afternoon, i can see a couple of hours to myself...

i'll keep reading the past post and mention something, perhaps...apologies to those awaiting an answer and thanks to all the good wishers re hols....

someone was asking about moving baby, oscar sleeps in his cot since day one, ok day 3 we came from hospital, i change the bedroom to the bigger room so he is close and i hear him, but he gives us space and we can make some noise,... i am not sure how long i leave him there until i change all the rooms again, dsis moved hers out of the room at 1 year old. someone will be saying, gosh, we talked about that aaaaaages ago[rolling eyes emoticon]

Pamlet- Glad your finding things easier with the two of them now. DH is very hands on when hes home which is great. DD1 is all over him like a rash so he kinda sorts her out from when he gets in. He comes in at 6.30 and I 'try' to get dinner ready for when he gets in. We all eat together then he takes DD up for a bath, story and bed. I put Lucy to bed around the same time. I am clock watching from about 5pm though.
Weekends he does the cooking too so it means I get more of a break at the weekends :)

Homebirth- Ahhh the laughing sounds really cute :) Loving the arms round you. Lucy has a habit of snuggling up cheek to cheek with me which is sweet.

Heffa- Hope you all have a fab holiday :)

Angel- :( Such a shame you didnt get the house. Hope you felt better today.

WLTK- Glad you all had a fab holiday. :)
Hope you had a good birthday too.

Spent the weekend doing oddjobs and continuing with the potty training.
Well we cracked DD holding everything in yesterday and got a both functions which was good. Couple of accidents this morning but at least shes not holding on to it now. Shes just not getting there quick enough at the mo.

Hope everyone is well and enjoying the weekend.

Meant to add Lucy has now outgrown the moses basket so spent her first night in the cot. We have moved her cot into our room for a while just while she gets used to her new bed. Its a bit of a squeeze with that in the room too but she seems to have taken to it really well and now even settles herself down to sleep. She sleeps with her arms stretched right out to the sides :)

thank you all for the birthday wishes, we spent the day doing a bit of walks, while doing the bits needed, had a lovely romantic dinner, oscar helped by sleeping through it..., and a very expensive coat for a present, plus card of course.

angel- oh dear, that house..., hope dh work gets sorted soon.

pigley- your schedule sounds fab, dh also helps a lot here, he feels by going to work he is missing a lot of oscar's life, so when he is here i am not allowed near, it's his daddy time. so, the photo business is picking up... well done!

molly- hope you are feeling ok after the spurs, sorry you missed the cake, my dil also is bad at keeping sugars down and taking medication, so mil frowns at anyone bringing cake... as she spends the whole time watching what he eats... hope he is ok anyway.

ok, oscar is asleep again, so head to pillow...

Growth spurt continues here. I saw every hour on the clock overnight. It's like newborn days again with added smiles and wriggles. I can really see why people thought that baby rice was an idea at this age. Been 4 nights since we had a good sleep so beginning to feel a bit low. Dh's idea was to go to the gym today but I can't see molly letting me!

Was speaking to a friend last night who is 12 weeks and really sick and struggling. It's an ivf pregnancy and she feels so guilty that she's not excited at all. Was able to offer her some support as it's not so long since I felt the same. Was reminded at the support I received here from you all at the time. Thanks again.

Just marking my place, will try to catch up soon :)

Another week has flown by and the time to go back to work is getting closer :(. Trying not to think too much about it but it's at the back of my mind all of the time.

Grace was due her third set of injections last week but we put them off as she was quite snuffly, she's not much better this week and due to have then tomorrow but think it may be best to postpone them again.

Not much else to report, pretty boring week really. Oh, got a bumbo from a friend from work whose ds is too big to fit in it for free :o. Got him an outfit as a thankyou gift but it didn't cost anywhere near as much as a new bumbo and tray would cost. DD1 can still fit in it too so she's having fun with it as well.

Angel - at your organisation for christmas, we need to start thinking about it as relatives are asking for ideas for the girls and we haven't got any. I had a lot of breakthrough bleeding on depo too, I came off it eventually as it didn't suit me, fingers crossed it all settles down. Yeah, the harness is off, time for lots of cuddles now :)

Molly - trying to exercise here, we joined the gym but getting there is difficult. Can't go till 8pm when both dds are (hopefully) in bed, and then it's so difficult to get motivated. Looking forward to zumba on Thursday and I've hunted out my old Davina and Ministry of Sound workout dvds.

Angel/Homebirth - I've been getting nightsweats since grace was born too. Thought it would have settled down now that bf is winding down.

Pigley - at your christmas organisation as well. Glad the photography is going well. :) PT sounds like it's going well though at 2.4yrs dd1 just wasn't ready and got scared of the potty, it went much better at 2.6yrs like HB4 said, fingers crossed it works first time but don't feel like a failure is she needs a bit more time.

Millington - poor you, Millie and Harry :( I've no advice about the sickness, Grace is very sickly and manages to cover me at least once a day but is gaining weight nicely atm. Is it worth trying another brand of formula altogether?

Cupcake - sorry to hear about your dh's job, we know a lot of people in similar positions and it's rubbish. :(

Pamelat - totally do the same and seem to give up when dh comes in from work, even though he's self-employed and earns less money when he finishes early I wish he would every day. It's hard work with two, such a big difference from one.

Homebirth - the giggles are lovely aren't they. Grace hates being on her tummy but loves to have a good kick without her nappy :) Your wedding pics look fabulous.

Heffa - hope your having a good time. :)

WLTK - glad you had a good time visiting family and hope you had a nice birthday.

SK - I too saw your other thread and hope your ok. Feel free to message me on fb or have a rant on here if you need to. :)

Just remembered, I started by bf counselling course this week, I really enjoyed it as it was nice to meet other mams and of course it was another pat on the back for me re the bf, even though it is only night and first thing in the morning now. :)

Hello all - I've just got time for a quick post

molly, homebirth you are not the only ones suffering from lack of sleep. I don't understand the growth spurt schedule but he certainly seems a bit more demanding recently. tbh i don't mind how often he wakes up during the night for a feed, it's when he wants to play and have a laugh at 5.30 that bothers me. I'm like death warmed up at that time of the morning. Especially if I've been woken at 3 and 4 as well. Today he wanted to play at 6am but I managed to trick him into feeling tired again by stroking his face and forehead. He fell back asleep, I couldn't believe it! I expect I'm going to have to embrace the early mornings before he goes to school though. I'm used to having so much time to myself I find it so hard to go to bed early.

hollyoaks hope you enjoy the bf counselling course. I tried to donate my BM but haven't had a response from either of the two nearest banks. I may persevere but I guess there isn't much time left if they only want milk before 6 months.

DS was 16 weeks on saturday and I had him weighed today and he's almost exactly 17lbs. Yay!

hobnob what did you decide about moving from bassinet to pushchair? I was hoping to leave it as long as possible but having watched DS try to prop himself up on his elbows in the bassinet for half the time we were out today I decided I should give him a break and let him use the chair . I was very sad swapping them over but he was very excited to try out the new upright position.

Good to read all your news
Hope everyone is ok!