Lefties 7: Simples

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Hope this is ok, I was getting withdrawal symptoms!

Beachcomber
have posted on the Meerkat thread. Golly what a rumpus. Thanks for the support, guys.

Go away and do something else for an hour and all hell breaks loose.

I clearly do not have time to do the ironing. I must monitor the situation here more closely.

Um. Con minority. Not sure. Would it work? Not for long, I assume. They certainly would not be able to get their more extreme agenda through parliament. Or do lib dems have to vote with them on some issues?

I am starting to hope that we end up with a Tory minority who fuck up royally and then we can have a go at hauling the whole thing into the 21st century next time round.

It just fucks me off so much to say it because if that is what happens then ordinary people will suffer and the 'what about the markets' shower will make a killing.

Step away LibDems and Labour and let them deal with it.

dp is back, btw.

I know Lenin but might be the price to pay to pave the way for it happening later. I think PW was right when she said that the public will need about 2 years of cbeebies style explanations of PR before they will vote responsibly on it.

Very sensible post MmeLindt - I don't usually do the 'come over here' thing on MN but took umbrage at you being quoted without your knowledge and being accused of not knowing what a bank is - duh.

I am dreading tonight. I will have to smile weakly as evil Tory DH walks through door making the L sign on his forehead.

I must be the bigger person and bide my time......

I agree Beachcomber. Right now, a minority tory government seems the best we can hope for.

I understand the labour point that they need to go away and reform and regroup etc, but tbh, whilst it might suit the party, it will mean a lot of ordinary people will get fucked over in the next few years.

I'm sick of hearing that the GBP won't stand for a lib/lab alliance. It's basically what they voted for. Over 50% voted for left of centre progressive government, it's only the shitty past the post system that is denying them their democratic right.

It's surely the perfect opportunity to argue the point for PR?

That view of Michale Meacher is bang on.

I think tory minority (whilst lib dems wonder round with their fingers up their arses, decision makers they are not) is the best way to go.

I just hope the electorate would not be too terrified of the uncertainty, and in an election in autumn overwhelmingly vote tory. I just hope (pray) that Ham Chops is in such a weak position, that the good old tory spitefulness will rear its braying head and start undermining him (such as David Davis, and a strong and renewed William Hague). Labour can then spend the intervening time renewing itself and strengthening itself for a combined attack at election time (god I sound like I think I am commanding the battle of Stalingrad).

I agree with cbeebies level of explanation needed re PR. You really run the risk of (a) people not understanding and therefore not bothering to register their opinion anyway or (b) people hating the idea of change and funny old european style of elections, and sticking to FPTP

It's so weird - the Scottish population took to PR no problem. We have a UK pilot to look at, therefore. So why do people think that the English won't cope?

Yes greatest danger of Tory minority is that they do nothing major to piss anyone off and then call an election that they will walk with their pots of cash.

Plus Labour will have a new untested leader and will be being blamed by the bloody right wing press for having 'brought the country to its knees' and left the Tories to clear up the mess.

TheStraits - the point is the Scots didn;t have the Sun, Daily Mail, Times, Telegraph et al telling them that they couldn't cope. Which would be the case if PR was launched wholesale for UK elections.

The scots, the Irish and the Welsh, but just too difficult for us thicko English it seems.

I wonder why the tories seem to be clamouring for a deal with the lib dems? If they want it so badly, I'm against it . They know that they're in the shit without the deal, yet John Reid and his ilk are handing it to them on a plate.

The only solution really is to kidnap Rupert Murdoch.

Are you offering GOML? I'll organise a whip round.

I am not kidnapping him and having the responsibiluty of actually having to look after the shrivelled shortarsed bastard. And feed him vegemite sandwiches or whatever.

YOU do it

Rupert isn't the problem any more, it's that fucking succubus James.

Is Conrad Black still in clink? SURELY Murdoch has done something illegal in all these years. Get the NOTW the do a sting operation on him (oh, hang on...)

TSk GOML. Not even in the interest of a strong and stable government?