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Pondering, and while slightly more optimistic than we once were, still really quite unhappy Lefty thread

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Hassled · 08/05/2010 17:20

Where had we got to? We'd agreed that we all love Cameron, right?

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CatIsSleepy · 09/05/2010 21:28

'Brilliant analysis today on this thread: am a bit in awe.'

yep me too-am feeling distinctly un-clever...(actually that's my usual state of mind)

sorry for those with sad news, hungry and beachcomber.

We had a restorative afternoon out in epping forest with some friends and their two boys. Dd1 had her least grumpy afternoon in ages, which made me happy.

TDiddy · 09/05/2010 21:33

My late night run will coincide with Carolyn Quinn's Westminster Hour tonight at 22:00hrs. A must listen this one is tonight.

Prolesworth · 09/05/2010 21:34

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TDiddy · 09/05/2010 21:55

Prolesworth - do i listen to Prince or politics on the run. Hmmm

theyoungvisiter · 09/05/2010 22:09

good night lefties everywhere

policywonk · 09/05/2010 22:14

Oooh look, Ed M now saying he would run, even against David.

Basically if I say something you can assume it's wrong.

G'night all

LeninGrad · 09/05/2010 22:17

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AppleTreeWick · 09/05/2010 22:23

Oh yes comrade I do believe we have that pleasure

policywonk · 09/05/2010 22:23

Dunno - might be worth joining just to have a say

Really must go to bed - have been on here All Weekend

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AppleTreeWick · 09/05/2010 22:29

well hopefully it wont be like the countryside alliance members joining the RSPCA...

FiveOrangePips · 09/05/2010 22:33

AppleTreeWick, (sorry rl got in the way), yes I think there is a problem with line managers, the ht has done as much as he can, afaik, but above him those layers of management - they are feckless bunch imho - they take the money. but seem to do sfa in return - we have a surplus of teachers, and dropping rolls here. The teacher in question has had all sorts of help, re training and reviews, but she is more interested in her business than her job - she is near to retirement age too, she is safe really. The HT is stuck with her, the school and children suffer, I know it is the union's job to support this teacher - just annoys me that the good things about unions means this teacher can get away with doing such a poor job.

Yes, it is a Sherlock Holmes story - I was reading it and feeling like a name change.

HamShine · 09/05/2010 22:45

Sorry for your losses, beachcomber and hungy.

I'm in my usual I-don't-know-ENOUGH state now. This always happens to me in political debate. So I've dug out Joseph Stiglitz' globalization book again - will try to finish it this time.

I always feel that my convictions need to be so much better supported by actual knowledge when I enter political debate. Literally not having the courage of them, I guess.

AppleTreeWick · 09/05/2010 22:46

hullo there oranges just off to bed so not a long one.

That sounds dire and very very annoying for everyone who cares about the school.

Ah Norbury. My deep regard for Robert Downey Jr has led me back to Sherlock Holmes recently.

Anyway MUST GO SLEEP

Prolesworth · 09/05/2010 22:46

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TDiddy · 09/05/2010 22:47

Strikes me that DC's opposition will come from within if he goes ConLib. The old guard are waiting on his momemnt of weakness. Did someone say that the 1922 committee is meeting tmmrw?

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TDiddy · 09/05/2010 23:01

Thanks for this. Good news on the COnLib deal being on then. Will obviously end in tears for one or the other. I wonder hether the LDs are simply out of cash so they would like to pause for a year or two to fill the piggy bank. Also, an election know would be polarise the vote between Lab and Con and squeeze them out.

Labour civil war would be bad news but no reason why it has to be protracted. Ed Balls is not electable. I like Harriet Harman but the press is so anti - her.

I guess it will be Miliban or Miliband. Ed is not so well known outside the party; David comes across like Blair without the Iraq sleaze.

TDiddy · 09/05/2010 23:01

Thant was thanks Prolesworth

HamShine · 09/05/2010 23:06

Well, I didn't think you were thanking me for my hiss! Childish, I know. But heartfelt...

TheFirstLady · 09/05/2010 23:07

Here you all are! Been a bit distracted by the mother of all dance shows this weekend, much more important than pesky general elections, but children have now piroutted their little hearts out and life can return to normal.
Lib Dem aide has been seen carrying pizza boxes into Parliament apparently, looks like they're not ready to give up and go home just yet.

TDiddy · 09/05/2010 23:08

HamShine- . Childish instincts often good.

Night HamShine, Prolesworth and fellow (centre)-lefties

Prolesworth · 09/05/2010 23:09

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