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Cameron has Guts!

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Cadders1 · 07/05/2010 14:48

Not a Tory - but just watching his speech - I am impressed that he is pushing the coalition with the LD's as this would not be an easy option. Normally think he is smarmy but I am not quite so scared now that he will be our PM!

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OrmRenewed · 07/05/2010 15:23

"he's selfless"

Ha ha ha!

longfingernailspaintedblue · 07/05/2010 15:23

Did Gordon Brown or Nick Clegg take questions?

Taking questions would be irresponsible before they have all talked in private to each other.

Coalitions can't be thrashed out in public for obvious reasons.

This is what we get with a hung Parliament; no point complaining now.

Cameron has definitely made the best of a bad job.

OrmRenewed · 07/05/2010 15:24

Actually I take that back. Maybe he is. maybe he is the new Messiah . Whatever he is, we're stuck with him so we'll just have to reserve judgement and hope he doesn't screw up.

munchkinmummy · 07/05/2010 15:24

Oh god, does this mean that Osbourne will get the Chancellor's job??? That scares me more than anything ;-(

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 07/05/2010 15:24

all of these speeches have been on youtube within minutes

Grateful for those people that can be arsed to do such a thing....

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 07/05/2010 15:25

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy

TooPragmatic · 07/05/2010 15:26

longfingernails, that's exactly as I see it. Quite why people are now surprised that NC is making moves to working with DC is a mystery to me. But their parties are quite different and that will make a working relationship full of problems (and lots of compromise). That's why I dreaded this outcome.

PollyTicks · 07/05/2010 15:26

me too@munchkinmummy

Do all you Tories genuinely think Gideon is the man for the job, too, then?

Crazy people.

claig · 07/05/2010 15:27

"The only reason he didn't want to take questions was in case he was asked whether he would accept a deal on PR. Or any other tricky questions for that matter."

pereggerspollsred, you're basing your opinion on what Brown was like. Cameron is different, a new broom, a breath of fresh air. Brown has left the building and he has taken the cynicism, spin and lies with him.

preggerspollsred · 07/05/2010 15:29

If I was a Tory I wouldn't want Osborne anywhere near a top job. Coming from a 22 point lead to where they ended up suggests he's not up to it.

PollyTicks · 07/05/2010 15:29

Are you 18, claig? is this the first time you've engaged in politics?

claig · 07/05/2010 15:30

unfortunately a little bit older than 18

Alibabaandthe40tories · 07/05/2010 15:33

He was right not to take questions, just as Brown and Clegg were right not to take questions.

This is what happens when you vote for a hung Parliament. It actually disenfranchises the voters because all the deals are now thrashed out in back rooms and the electorate have no say.

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 07/05/2010 15:34

Nobody voted for a hung parliament...surely

FrakkinTheReturningOfficer · 07/05/2010 15:39

preggers - that speech is being broadcast throughout the world. Cameron is being very, very clever by spelling things out to the rest of the world so if he should end up as Britain's PM he has set out his 'right' from the very beginning and appears to be someone that the rest of the world can engage with. Brown doesn't have a positive image, Blair had a reputation for talking round in circles, Cameron's speech avoided all those pitfalls.

AbsOfCroissant · 07/05/2010 15:43

Are you saying he's fat?

TooPragmatic · 07/05/2010 15:43

TDWP, anyone who voted LibDem yesterday must surely have known they were voting for a hung parliament. I refuse to believe otherwise. Unless people really don't know how first past the post works.

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Cadders1 · 07/05/2010 15:46

I don't think we were voting for a hung politics - I personally was voting for them as I thought their policies were the best. I can't stand it went people say there is no point voting for so in so because they won't get in. Do you really want 2 party politics?

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TheDevilWearsPrimark · 07/05/2010 15:47

Well no...as Lib Dems had a good chance here given council elections...Conservatives had no chance.

I voted for the person I believed in. No tactical voting...what would be the point...

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Cadders1 · 07/05/2010 15:47

hung parliament

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preggerspollsred · 07/05/2010 15:47

His immediate job is to engage with the British public, not the rest of the world. I'm sure Barack Obama and Angela Merkel etc will decide how they want to engage with him without the need to spell out his share of the vote like they/we are simpletons.

Its the tone I dislike. Same as the questions point - I don't have a problem with him saying its not appropriate to take questions from the press until further negotiations have taken place with the other parties, but he comes across as arrogant instead by saying he is too busy.

FrakkinTheReturningOfficer · 07/05/2010 15:49

TooPragmatic - I agree.

In some areas a Lib Dem vote is a wasted vote. FPP relies on the politics in a constituency not nationally. If you think LD has the best policy nationally but you live in a Tory/Lab marginal then you're better of voting for someone who's the best of a bad bunch and deciding who is better for your area.

claig · 07/05/2010 15:49

AbsOfCroissant, portly would be a kinder way to describe him. I have heard that just like "the King", Brown is partial to the odd peanut butter and banana sandwich.

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Cadders1 · 07/05/2010 15:51

Frakkin - that is why we need electoral reform.

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FrakkinTheReturningOfficer · 07/05/2010 15:52

2His immediate job is to engage with the British public, not the rest of the world. I'm sure Barack Obama and Angela Merkel etc will decide how they want to engage with him without the need to spell out his share of the vote like they/we are simpletons."

He has more work to do than appealing to the leaders he's likely to meet personally. That speech will be watched by businesss-people and market traders who need to feel confident in the UK market to invest. Also remember that not everyone in the UK is as well informed about the election as many members of MN are and really do need to hear it spelt out. His immediate job is to do what is right for Britin and projecting a positive image is undeniably part of that.

Overall I can't fault the structure or delivery of his speech. What I feel about his policies is a different matter but I think it was brave and honest.

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