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** Official MN Election Night Thread - let's hold hands and wait together ** Pt2

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toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 04:20

oops filled the other one

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ASecretLemonadeDrinkerDAVE · 07/05/2010 08:42

watford - blue

FakePlasticTrees · 07/05/2010 08:42

hi all, I was too sleepy to stop up and talk. Just watching the maths on BBC news - slightly nervy about this. Even Lab/LibDem isn't enough, so they'd need SNP - who are talking about making a condition of their support that cuts don't hit Scotland - is that right? How much more screwed with those of us in England be if the cuts can't be spread throughout all the UK. Apparently they'll need PC in Wales too, I can see they'd need something similar...

hate to say it, but think another election to get a 'cleaner' result is the best option. (Really don't see a con/LibDem pack lasting more than 5 minutes, they are too different)

On the bright side, BNP didn't get any seats. Nasty, horrid, hatefuelled people.

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 08:56

morning again everyone, just managed to get the DS's out on time for school

DS3 woke up 10 minutes after I went to lie on the sofa (incredibly I still didn't fall straight asleep despite having been up most of the night!) so then had to make him milk, brin him downstairs, persaude him to go back to sleep top and tailing with me on the sofa....

So that was about 6.30 by the time got that sorted, then my alarm went off (repeatedly as I kept hitting snooze ) from 7.30.....

tired........ermm - just a bit

DS3 is still asleep on the sofa

Glad to see that BNP have remained under 2% of the overall vote

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toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 08:57

oh and >>> was you was it

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SomeGuy · 07/05/2010 09:01

Current results
Tories: 288
Labour: 241
Lib Dem: 51
DUP: 8
SNP: 6
SF: 4
PC: 3
SDLP: 3
Green: 1
Alliance: 1
Sylvia Hermon: 1

Remaining seats:
Safe:
Argyll & Bute - Lib Dems hold
Bethnal Green - Labour
Blyth Valley - Labour should hold over Lib Dems
Brent Central - Labour should hold, possible Lib Dem
Broadland - should be Tory hold
Buckingham - Speaker
Devon West - Tories should hold, Lib Dems have chance
East Ham - Labour hold
Erith Thamesmead - Labour should hold
Hackney North - Labour hold
Hackney South - Labour hold
Hampshire NE - Tory hold
Hexham - Tory hold
Huntingdon - Tory hold
Kenilworth & Southam - Tory hold
Lewisham Dept - Labour
Lewisham W& Penge - Labour
Old Bexley - Tory hold
Penrith - Tory hold
Saffron Walden - Tory hold
Skipton & Ripon - Tory hold
St Ives - LD hold
Thirsk & Malton - Tory hold
Wansbeck - Labour hold
West Ham - Labour hold
Wythenshawe - Labour hold

LD 2
Labour 12
Tory 11
Speaker 1

Marginal:
Amber Valley - marginal Tory/Labour
Brent North - probable Labour hold, Tories have outside chance
Cheltenham - marginal Lib Dem/Tory
Copeland - outside chance of Tory win, probable Labour hold
Dudley North - 50/50 for Tories to gain from Labour
Ellesmere Port - outside chance for Tory gain
Fermanagh - SF or Unionist
Hendon - Tories strong chance of gain from Labour
Lancaster & Fleetwd - 50/50 Tory gain from Labour
Morecambe - slim chance of Tory gain from Labour
Norwich North - Labour/Tory marginal
Oldham East - Labour should hold over Lib Dems
Poplar & Limehouse - Tories have slim chance of gain from Labour
Thurrock - Lab/Tory marginal
Warwick - Lab/Tory marginal
Westmorland & Lonsdale - Lib Dem/Tory marginal

1 SF/unionist
15 marginals

Tories might get 8
Lib Dem 1 Labour 6

so:

Tories: 308
Labour: 259
Lib Dem: 54
DUP: 8
SNP: 6
SF: 4
PC: 3
SDLP: 3
Unionists: 2
Green: 1
Alliance: 1
Speaker: 1

which does seem to make a grand coalition for Labour/LD/Nationalists just about possible; otoh the Tories need to win ALL the 15 possibles to even think about forming a government with the unionists. Which won't happen, so IMO the next step is to try and negotiate with individual Labour and/or Lib Dem MPs to cross the floor and join the Tories.

If they do very well in the remaining seats, tempting 3 or 4 MPs to cross the floor could just do the trick.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2010 09:04

interesting times!!!

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 09:05

have to say I'm still quite about Lib Dem taking Redcar- just had to go back and check the result to make sure I didn't dream it in my very short sleep.

Debating whether to hit the (other) sofa for a bit until DS3 wakes up......

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iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:05

I must be tired. I cant understand any of the stuff they are saying anymore.

iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:06

tocca - hit that sofa I would lol

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 09:08

too late.........little voice just said "mu-um"

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FakePlasticTrees · 07/05/2010 09:09

someguy - I had't thought about Toeies getting Lib/Lab MPs to cross the floor, interesting option.

claig · 07/05/2010 09:10

Don't worry. I've said that Clegg was a Tory all along. He won't do a deal with Labour, evenif they offered real voting reform.

Cartoose · 07/05/2010 09:11

Morning everyone!

iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:11

Tocca - shit. Don't you just hate that.

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 09:12

yep........

I gotta do some housework today - didn't put the dishwasher on/tidy up last night at ALL.

Thinking of starting a

"I stayed up all night to watch the election and have matchsticks opening my eyes but gotta do the housework - come and plod along with me" thread lol

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iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:13
iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:14

Do it tocca I'll join

flowerybeanbag · 07/05/2010 09:14

Morning all

Was awake til about 3.15. DH informs me that he fell asleep about 4, then woke at 5 and couldn't resist putting the telly on, so has had one hour sleep. He's a nutcase, and is full of beans this morning. I'm not.

And we could have all gone to bed after the exit poll!

SomeGuy · 07/05/2010 09:15

Tories GAIN Hendon

AbsOfCroissant · 07/05/2010 09:16

Does anyone know what's going to happen to the boroughs where people couldn't al vote? Harriet Harman was saying something about a legal challenge. Could/would they?

iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:16

Naomi Long is coming across very well I think

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 09:18

ahh but now do I put it in Politics, Good House keeping or somewhere else.

I'm sure if we're plodding along because we stayed up to watch the election we're going to be wasting more time keeping an eye on things today and discussing it as we skive off rest between doing stuff.....

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Cartoose · 07/05/2010 09:19

Oh coffee, I needed that. Thanks knockraven. Well, I've got a lot to do today so I'll be on and off here. Trying to force myself not to sit in the same position (with laptop and TV on) that I was until 2 in the morning!

FakePlasticTrees · 07/05/2010 09:19

absofcroissant - that could lead to a number of by-elections. This could rumble on for months....

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 09:19

haha just seen a great status update on FB (apparently seen on twitter)

"The British People have spoken. Unfortunately what they said was "errrrm."

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