UKIP. I'm voting for them. This is why;

[crystal123]

UKIP want us out of the EU, I love Europe can't stand the EU.We pay 40 million a day to them
1)72% of our laws are now made in Brussells, from fuel taxes, farming,fishing and immigration.
2)We pay £40 million a day to be in the EU.
3)The Two richest countries in Europe-Norway and Switzerland are not even in the EU.
4)Under labour we now have 3.5 million extra people living in this country. We need proper border controls. Nick Cleggs policy is to count people in and out of the country, and force them to work in 'regions' totally unworkable. UKIP would keep our proud tradition of helping genuine asylum seekers.
5)UKIP does not appear to be anti-christian as do the other parties. The labour parties spin doctor Alistair Campbell said they "don't do God!" I do.
6)UKIP believes in holding referendums for the electorate on key local and international issues. I like this.
7)Crime is now out of contol, UKIP would build more prisons. Last but not least, Lord Pearson (leader) is 'posh' and does not try to hide it.

I think that you are wrong - The accounts in 2009 and 2008 were signed off by auditors.

I think that the EU brings benefit for trade. I dont think that isolating Europe is a good idea.

But more importantly, Eurpean policy is not something that rates highly on my list of reasons to vote, I am more interested in health, the economy and education.

I read the manifesto that you linked to, but there seems to be no substance to it, lots of ideas but no figures to back up the plans - how will they pay for all these prisons?

But what about everything else? I understand that people vote for a party based on a few key issues, but this is one key issue. What about all of their other policies?

At what cost would you continue to vote for UKIP? Is Europe such an issue for you that you would vote for them regardless of any of their other policies? I know that these parties (as with BNP) get votes based on issues that people feel the major parties are not addressing (as with immigration), but I don't understand how in return, voters of these parties can become so single minded.

I mean, what would swing it for some of you UKIPpers, BNPers? (I add that as DP is here even though we are discussing UKIP, even though the BNP is less single issue than UKIP)
How many terrible/non policies would you put up with and in how many areas before you would consider switching your vote? What policies from other parties appeal to you?

The debates hotting up.

I dont really think it is though, so far you have 2 voters!

I have read this entire thread and am still LOL literally at Show of Hands and her spider-eating, Bono head job, hot poker action!

yes crystal but you cite building prisons as a reason why YOU are voting ukip. i would like YOU to explian why you personally support this policy.

I was not talking about voters, but those contributing, I think you will find more support than you think.

SUNGIRLTAN. I support building more prisons as I am needful of the murderers, rapists, etc; human rights, at present they are in overcrowded prisons,(poor loves!) and so the government in its wisdom gives them 'early release' where they go on to re-offend, again, and again murdering and raping people. We need more prisons on one of our 300 Islands of the coast of this great Island of ours. Build more prisons stick these reprobates in them, (I include members of the present Government in that) Send out a clear messaage, that the people of this country, will no longer stand for their behaviour which not only effects my family, but yours as well.

Worzelgummidge. Will throw in a bit of humour soon, when SOH returns!.

Coolfonz. Why do you keep mentioning the 1930's? Is it when you were born? was it your heyday? Or do you just admire that period in time? A time of human turbulence, when 50 million were later killed in WW2?
I could explain why you are so insulting, you can't remember anything else to say!

crystal123 - I think you gave us enough humour in the first 5 words of the thread title.

shadesofviolet. Don't worry you will be getting plenty more!

I dont think so, you dont seem to have anything else to say!

UKIP - United Kingdom's Ignorant Pricks

Shadesofviolet: How clever, funny, witty,
and there's me thinking you had an ounce of intelligence! Go back to cooking the lunch.

Just to be awkward it is true that there is a massive democractic deficit in the way the EU's institutions work, and that its accounts are completely up the creek. I wouldn't vote UKIP if you paid me, but those two things are unfortunately demonstrable.

Well sorry to disappoint you.

Ok, so Crytal has sent one poster "back to cook", is picking on Coolfonz because of his possible age, and surely I would get some xenophobic remarks just because I have the name of a foreign country as my nickname.

I don't know what is it with these pro UKIP and BNP supporters, the more that they try to convince us they are right, the more convinced we get I don't want to have them around, much less so running the country.

More Nu Labour/Eu Big Brotherism:

Labour is supporting plans for a dramatic expansion in the powers available to fellow member states who accuse UK nationals of committing even the most minor crimes while visiting.

Under the plans, other countries could get the right to demand surveillance on a UK resident who has returned home, and access to his or her bank records.

They could also be entitled to demand British police take a suspect's DNA or other samples.

Civil liberties groups across the continent are furious at the proposals, designed to bolster the controversial new European Evidence Warrant - a partner to the deeply controversial European Arrest Warrant.

Cases to which the arrest warrant has been applied include a man accused of the 'theft of a dessert' in a Polish restaurant.

Under the proposed new regime, such a person could be placed under surveillance or have his bank records accessed to check that he had paid for the dessert, critics say.

Minutes of a parliamentary committee show Labour is quietly backing the idea. Home office minister Meg Hillier said: 'We would in principle support a new and comprehensive instrument based on mutual recognition that covers all types of evidence'.

Last night Tory justice spokesman Dominic Grieve said: 'Giving states which do not afford citizens the same legal protections as the UK the right to demand DNA samples, intercept communications or snoop on the personal data of British citizens is a worrying development.

'In supporting this proposal, Labour is yet again showing its relish for surveillance and disdain for civil liberties

Hi there.

I'd like to ask a question (ideally to lily, if she's still around?)

You mentioned "mass immigration, and the mass house building programme that goes with it."

Am I right in thinking UKIP advocate complete withdrawal from the EU?

So EU citizens would no longer be allowed to live and work here?
(As a scientist myself, I have to shudder at the thought that policy would do to our science/high tech industries, but that's not my main point)

Surely all UK citizens living abroad in the EU would then have to return home? So net change in population - zero. Net changed in pissed-off-ness of population - huge.
Not to mention that a lot of them are pensioners, so you've decimated the workforce of a lot of companies without offering them replacement workers.
That doesn't seem like such a great idea to me?

I would favour a return to the system we had before - Visas and work permits. Worked fine before the EU came along.

www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/535