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Heres what a hung Parliament will do

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lincstash · 18/04/2010 09:42

WE have been there before, with both Wilson and Heath.

No one can rule with a minority government. Its an abortion. Nothing radical, nothing decisive can get passed into law. Nothing gets decided, no real advancement can be made, everything is fudge and a compromise.

IF we get a hung parliament, Labour will retain power (as the incumbent governments right to), completely unable to do anything decisive about the economy, and eventually, after being defeated in multiple votes government will collapse with a year, and another election will ensue. You only need a major bill such as the Finance Bill to get destroyed by the opposition, and thats thats.

Meanwhile, the militant left wing unions (UNITE and GMB) will set about ejecting Labours Blairites and Brownites from the party , (as they have promised they can and will), and whilst labour struggles along in the minority in westminster, civil war will rip the party apart as the unions seize control and force the party back to socialist far left. Policy making and decision making will cease within the government

Meanwhile, the worlds financial markets will see the political chaos, pull the plug on our credit rating and that will be it, game set an match. The economy will collapse, and the World Bank will be forced to step in, as it did with the Wilson Government. We will then be a prime target for the EU vultures to take further control of us.

THis is not speculation, this is based on previous times in our history when we have been in this position. We are the 5th largest economy because we always have had majority governments. If you want examples of what happens to countries with minority rules, look at places like Italy, Argentina, Brazil. 3rd rate counties because they cant be ruled decisively.

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AitchTwoZone · 19/04/2010 19:59

this is why i'd prefer not to have men on mn.

and lololololol at 'My family have lived here, in this county, a thousand years, and were going nowhere.'

ahundredtimes · 19/04/2010 19:59

But why do you think they will seek exercise power now Cat? Rather than at any point over the last 12 years? Isn't this just VERY old hat reds under the beds stuff?

lincstash · 19/04/2010 20:04

"By AitchTwoZone Mon 19-Apr-10 19:59:47
this is why i'd prefer not to have men on mn.

and lololololol at 'My family have lived here, in this county, a thousand years, and were going nowhere.' "

AH a sexist man hater.

Funny how its ok for women to be sexist but if men do it you all jump up and down.

Tell you what, theres nothing more hypocritical than a sexist female left winger.

And if you have no personal history, dont mock other peoples. Presumably no records exist of your parentage thats why you bitter.........

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thesecondcoming · 19/04/2010 20:04

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AitchTwoZone · 19/04/2010 20:06

hahaha. i can see i played right into your hairy hands there, lincstash.

and yes, this really is why i'd rather there were no men on mn.

lincstash · 19/04/2010 20:07

"By Fliight Mon 19-Apr-10 19:59:47
Catinthehat, it's the other stuff that throws people right off though...all this 'if you dare to suppress my heritage and culture you can fuck off'

Like the British Empire didn't do that to millions of people for decades "

See, its irrelevant. were talking about society NOW. And in THIS society NOW, Labour has made a big fuss about 'multiculturalism' - except of course, people like you dont think the english are entitled to a culture. Its the usual hypocrisy from the left wing class obsessed pro EU anti-english racists.

h look it was me that was first..

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policywonk · 19/04/2010 20:08

Agree with 100x - Unite have had Labour by the balls for at least a couple of years now. I'm not seeing the workers' takeover that I'd have hoped for, frankly.

catinthehat2 · 19/04/2010 20:10

100x -
The LAbour party has never had so little cash as now. It is skint. This is the opportune time to get some bang for the only buck which is keeping LAbour alive.

MOney = power.

lincstash · 19/04/2010 20:10

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AitchTwoZone · 19/04/2010 20:10

did you really just say you were here first?! did you?! lolololololol.

ahundredtimes · 19/04/2010 20:14

But Cat, none of them have any money. I can't get particularly wound up about Unite. I'm more worried about shadowy, individual donors tbh. Though I take your point. The finances of all political parties need to be cleared up.

ahundredtimes · 19/04/2010 20:15

Ahem. 'you're' the racist.

It's that pesky 60s education of yours isn't it?

You are becoming unbalanced again Lincs, you sound it tbh.

lincstash · 19/04/2010 20:16

UNITE have promised a Winter of Discontent if they dont get ther eown way, and I cant see the Brownites letting go of power easily.

Furthermore, if Brown aonly managed a hung parliment, he will lose massive amounts of support anyway. Theres already been several attempts to depose him, but the party whips have kept all the dissenters in line with the promise Brown will come up with the goods at an election. When he fails, the dam will burst, and the vulture will circle, and his internal support will melt away. All hell will then break lose as the militants demand ministerial posts for some of the 167 MP's the pay for.

Now, can you imagine this happening while Labour are also a minority government, trying to win motions and passing Bills and having to court the LibDems - and lets face it, Nick Clegg will want ministerial positions for him and his mates in exchange for supporting labour.

A hung Parliament is going to be a long drawn out train crash .

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snickersnack · 19/04/2010 20:16

It's "we're", not "were". "We're talking about society now" because you mean "we are". So much for a good education.

Anyhow. A hung parliament would do us a lot of good in the long run. The electoral system is screwed. If today's polls are right the LibDems could win the popular vote and come a distant third in terms of seats. You can't tell me that's democracy in action.

Fliight · 19/04/2010 20:17

Lincstash you are now talking complete crap. Goodbye.

policywonk · 19/04/2010 20:18

Unite4Labour's programme: 'we believe Labour best serves your interests and those of your union. Nowhere is this truer than on the economy and job security... clear and consistent actions to lock in the recovery, keep investing in jobs and skills, support businesses and keep people in their homes whilst paying back debt by getting people into work and fairer taxes.'

Blatcherism at its finest. It's hardly the Communist bleeding Manifesto.

abride · 19/04/2010 20:20

'"one of the most influential countries in the last 1000 years" - are you having a laugh?'

Like it or not, this is actually correct. It may be fashionable (yawn) to decry the role of Britain in history but you can't deny that the role existed.

Quite a bit of it is actually worth being proud of, actually.

And it's also correct to point out that a downgrading of our credit rating would be disastrous. The National Debt isn't just some theoretic construct. We would have to pay far more for our loans from the IMF et al. Translate that into new hospitals and schools not being built (or refurbished) because we can't afford to borrow the money and you start to see how dreadful it could be.

policywonk · 19/04/2010 20:20

UK workers want fair access to UK construction projects Would have thought that one would be quite popular with nationalists.

lincstash · 19/04/2010 20:21

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ahundredtimes · 19/04/2010 20:21

It's going to lead to civil war apparently PW.

We should all be very afraid.

I'm personally loving how earlier on Lincs blamed the current labour government for dismantling the empire and the industrial revolution. He makes extraordinary leaps. So agile for a man with such poor spelling.

lincstash · 19/04/2010 20:21

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ahundredtimes · 19/04/2010 20:23

abride - you don't think 1000 years is pushing it a bit?

catinthehat2 · 19/04/2010 20:23

I've posted this before on a thread involving L:

"Believe me, the kneejerk "RACIST!" shoutdown you employed doesn't actually work much any more in discussions about immigration, other than to drive yet more people into the arms of the BNP.

You might want to think about why Lincs believes you are at heart an "anti-english racist bigot, who sticks two fingers up at my english culture".

It's no use continually doing the jeering ad hominem bit. No use wheeling out the small dick, mummy doesn't love you stuff. It is irrelevant. You need to address the reason why Lincstash believes what he believes. Why? What is going on? Why does he think this? He's here. Ask him.

Otherewise it's just a shouting match between some shouters of varying talent

lincstash · 19/04/2010 20:23

"By ahundredtimes Mon 19-Apr-10 20:21:18
It's going to lead to civil war apparently PW."

No thats not what I said. Misquoting me to try and make a point really does smack of desperation. But then, your a leftwinger, you wouldnt know what the truth looks like anyway.

I said it would lead to internal civil war within the Labour party.

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