Heres what a hung Parliament will do

[lincstash]

WE have been there before, with both Wilson and Heath.

No one can rule with a minority government. Its an abortion. Nothing radical, nothing decisive can get passed into law. Nothing gets decided, no real advancement can be made, everything is fudge and a compromise.

IF we get a hung parliament, Labour will retain power (as the incumbent governments right to), completely unable to do anything decisive about the economy, and eventually, after being defeated in multiple votes government will collapse with a year, and another election will ensue. You only need a major bill such as the Finance Bill to get destroyed by the opposition, and thats thats.

Meanwhile, the militant left wing unions (UNITE and GMB) will set about ejecting Labours Blairites and Brownites from the party , (as they have promised they can and will), and whilst labour struggles along in the minority in westminster, civil war will rip the party apart as the unions seize control and force the party back to socialist far left. Policy making and decision making will cease within the government

Meanwhile, the worlds financial markets will see the political chaos, pull the plug on our credit rating and that will be it, game set an match. The economy will collapse, and the World Bank will be forced to step in, as it did with the Wilson Government. We will then be a prime target for the EU vultures to take further control of us.

THis is not speculation, this is based on previous times in our history when we have been in this position. We are the 5th largest economy because we always have had majority governments. If you want examples of what happens to countries with minority rules, look at places like Italy, Argentina, Brazil. 3rd rate counties because they cant be ruled decisively.

told you OP was strange, didnt I?

I think he's Enoch Powell coming back from the afterlife.

Oh so by 1000 years you actually meant 250 years? Because I was going to say our conquest by the Normans might not have been our finest hour? And the Dark Ages that followed were not too well recorded.

I would like to remind you that the wealth that built our empire came from the slave trade, the exploitation of the British working classes and the brutal suppression of entire nations. I hope you are proud.

You are an ignoramus of the highest order. I will not reply to you any further as you as you obviously have an agenda.

Umm you cant change history, and you cant deny the points I made. Were not having a discussion about morality, were discussing the major influence the english had on the course of western history and development, whatever way that was, and in a lot of ways, we changed the world forever, including the abolition of slavery before most other countries did.

Its not shameful to be proud we were the greatest industrial nation on the planet (but not any more thanks to labour), and therefore started the Industrial Revolution, the consequences being were having this conversation in this language by this method. For a start had we not been so temerous and resourceful in WW2 we might have been having this conversation in german and celebrating 80 years of Third Riech.

Vast numbers of inventions, discoveries and progress was made by this nation, personally im proud of being a citizen today of a country that has been so influential on the history of the world.

And this is the thing I hate about all you left wingers, your distate for the country that feeds and clothes you, and whos ancesters died to preserve the freedom and democracy that Labour has spent 14 years dismantling.

We are one of the most enterprising, inventive races alive, yet you just cant help yourselves and let it stick in our throats. If you dont like our history, then why do you live here? Its the old left wing hypocricy of everyone can be proud of there culture and history EXCEPT the english, and WE have to hide away.

Well, to put it bluntly, you can fuck off. Im proud of being english, and if you try and suppress my culture, my history and my country then we'll fight back every step. My family have lived here, in this county, a thousand years, and were going nowhere.

Your an odd little man Linktash.
Does your mummy not love you?

By the way the way did you know the Russians won the second world war?

"My family have lived here, in this county, a thousand years, and were going nowhere."

• Sounds like it.

Adious

Oh gawd, he thinks the English are a race

I live in Wales. Coalition government was the best thing to have happened to us in decades. Fact.

Thanks Lincstash for telling us, the ignorant dumbos of Mumsnet, what a hung parliament will lead to..we are grateful that you magnanimously allow us to share in your truth...could you also cast my horoscope for me whilst you are at it...I'm a Scorpio?

...er, and what's wrong with a socialist party?

Hasn't the current non-social option turned into a bit of a mess?

I take it you are a fully subbed member of the Nationalist party then, Lincs?

I just don't get why YOUR family is so much more blardy important than any other of the folk on this earth.

and btw my computer is decidedly Japanese.

...anyway...this is ridiculous. How do you decide how English a person really is?

Are you aware that the oldest inhabitants of this country probably came here from, erm, somewhere else? Half of us are descended from vikings, which isn't very English really is it?

By the way...I posted that before I read your meltdown a few posts ago ...you must realise it's impossible to maintain your clearly well-cultivated pompous demeanour when your readers can imagine you turning purple and pop-eyed with venom as you write!

...also wasn't aware this country was feeding and clothing me...though I do accept that sometimes I probably look like I've been dressed by the council!

Cho I'd consider he's done wondrous things for the prospect of a Hung Parliament at least in terms of MN's support for it, with that last little episode.

An empire that lasts 1000 years I've heard that somewhere before...

Try this site if you want to find out how to vote for a hung parliament

ooo I just saw lincstash's meltdown a few posts up. I'm laughing too hard to respond properly

This stuff about a hung parliament - I'm not sure really how it affects us as voters, I mean we have basically two contenders here, the tories and the libs.

If I vote labour it'll be a waste, because they'll never get in round here.

So the only way to get the tories out is lib dem. Which I would probably do anyway as I like them best.

But that isn't going to affect whether there's a hung parliament or not - it's just going to affect our local council.

Or is there a different type of election going on at the same time where you actually get to vote for the government?

Proof of the pudding:- Sterling shanked against the dollar today.

The reason:-Lib Dems being top of the heap in the run up to the election.

The markets will pounce.

not just any paper though.

Ha Ha Ha! Great thread.....

"By ChoChoSan Mon 19-Apr-10 17:54:02
Thanks Lincstash for telling us, the ignorant dumbos of Mumsnet, what a hung parliament will lead to..we are grateful that you magnanimously allow us to share in your truth...

...er, and what's wrong with a socialist party?"

1. This is a discussion board, dumbass, that means people post there views and opinions, If they dont , there's no discussion. You can tell when people run out of discussion points, they resort to sarcasm and insult, like you just did.

1. There's nothing wrong with socialism, especially of the George Orwell variety. However, the Labour party isnt socialist, and hasnt been for 28 years, and the war that will ensue to shift it left will cripple the labour party, and if they are in government, destroy the governance of the country. How can you possibly imagine a minority government, which will already have its hands full staying in power, can cope with being torn apart by civil war as well?

"By Fliight Mon 19-Apr-10 17:55:52

I take it you are a fully subbed member of the Nationalist party then, Lincs?

I just don't get why YOUR family is so much more blardy important than any other of the folk on this earth.

and btw my computer is decidedly Japanese. "

1. no, im not a member of any political party.
2. I never said it was, all i pointed out was we'd been here a long time.
3. Charles Babbage, FRS (26 December 1791 ? 18 October 1871) was an English Mathematician, philosopher, inventor, and mechanical engineer who originated the concept of a programmable computer. Tory reading more English history. If you were educated by Labour then you will have no idea of english history, so i forgive your ignorance.

"By thesecondcoming Mon 19-Apr-10 18:54:36

i think if lincstash were writing in pen it'd be green crayon,or letters cut out of the paper and glued... wink "

Anybody educated boy labour in the last 14 years will. I was educated in the 60's, before all the looney left invaded teaching and fucked it up with brainless left wing dogma. Like most of the looney left here, i see you have no intelligent arguments so you resort to ridicule and sarcasm. Presumably thinking up counterpoints is too difficult ?

As for 'meltdown'...........dream on, i told you in no uncertain terms what i thought of the posters idiot remarks, hardly amounts to a meltdown, let me check............nope no valium, no men in white coats, still here. And still noone has any intelligent counterpoints, just a pack of idiot looney left, using the usual tactics. Im surprised no one has use the 'racist' word yet, that a good looney left standby tactic - whos going to be first?

I didn't say the Japanese invented computers, I said my computer is Japanese. Are there still computers manufactured over here? Well, yes, I expect there are a few, but not by any means as many as are made in the far east.

and why is that? Because they are far, far more efficient at it than we are.

...but Lincstash - haven't we just had 14 years of New Labour (Old Conservatives). Apart from some excellent stuff Labour have achieved with SureStart centres and some new hospitals and schools I cannot see that they have done too much different from what the Tories would have done on lots of issues.

Disclaimer - I know NOTHING about the financial side of things or whether or not GB did anything like a good or bad job as Chancellor.

All I know is that I am in the poorest 20% of the population and whoever gets in are not going to make me any richer.

Personal jibes aside, I would struggle to pick holes in his Sunday 17.46 post:

"United Left predict that other militant unions - 'many of whom pay substantial amounts to New Labour' - will join the battle to reclaim Labour by the extreme Left.

Unite believes that Labour will have no choice over switching political direction because the party will collapse without its huge donations. In 1997, 40p in every £1 of the party's funds came from the unions. Now it is double that figure

The Unions have Labour by the balls, and they have every intention of winding back to 1972 and the Winter of Discontent. Nearly 150 seats that Labour is contesting at the election are directly funded by Unite. Thirteen members of the Cabinet - half of the total and including Mr Brown - have received a total of £33,000 from the union. 167 Labour MPs and candidates are also paid-up members of Unite."

I am sure Lincstash will stand by these points. They are awkward and disagreeable points, but pretty much unavoidable unless you are particularly naive.

Lincstash - you can't accuse people of being poorly educated unlike your good self, and then litter your posts with poor spelling and lousy syntax. Well you can, but it doesn't look good.

Catinthehat, it's the other stuff that throws people right off though...all this 'if you dare to suppress my heritage and culture you can fuck off'

Like the British Empire didn't do that to millions of people for decades