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[Eilatan]

if they get in:

They'll end HIPS so my husband will loose his job
He's actually a teacher but can't get work cos the last time they were in they brought in 'cover supervisors' ...unqualified people who are doing our jobs
They do away with the 15 hours nursery care...all we do is wait for our little un to be 3 so we can just break even each month... but no doubt these evil so and sos will take it away to pay for the w(b)ankers ineptitude
I expect they do away with the trust funds too
Teachers wages will be frozen ...
Over 60s cold weather payments? Ha! last time they were in Edwina Currie advised them to knit woolly gloves!
Any tiny power the unions have been able to claw back will go...
We'll be back to teaching kids that homosexuality is wrong and if a piece of literature wasn't written by someone dead, white and male it isn't worth reading
...if they get in I'm jacking it all in... going to sell the house and live in a caravan... no way am I working on Maggie's farm again!

Don't be fooled by all that caring for the family rubbish. All those c care for is making their own kind richer.

PLEASE don't vote for them.

Leila - I agree about a 'weighting' - not just for London, but for all the pricey parts of the country. Where I live housing is just as expensive as London, where I lived until recently.

As for the marriage tax breaks, I find the whole thing utterly banal and out of touch with the reality of modern life. Isn't the whole point of it to benefit families? I have plenty of married friends with no kids (and no wish to ever have them). They are far wealthier than I am. Why should they deserve tax breaks rather than an unmarried couple with children? Or single parents, etc etc? And I hope you realise that the tax breaks would benefit the rich far more than people at the poorer end of the financial spectrum. Bizarre.

poshsinglemum:

Hmmm, interesting article on LabourList about targetting sites like MN:

www.labourlist.org/mumsnet-new-community-campaigning

Without being unduly cynical, I wouldn't be surprised if labour (and probably tory) "activists" were all over Mumsnet trying to drum up support. Mums are, after all, a key demographic.

Some of the posts over the last few days on MN do seem to be suspiciously close to the party line....

And I quote directly from the article above:

"What Number 10 seem to have understood with Mumsnet is that instead of relying on journalists with their clear editorial focus, specific groups can be talked to direct. So politicians have started talking straight to engaged groups at a national level ? just as the already do in community centres, they are now doing it online."

Be warned, you are being talked to!!

As far as I am concerned the next election will be a vote for who will ruin the country less rather than who will be better. I personally do not feel affiliated with any party. THEY ALL LIE!

Well on a personal level we have been well and truly stuffed by the labour party, the tories can't be any worse. On a national level they have screwed the economy and threatened the security of the country.

They are all a bunch of morons. I will exercising my right not to vote.

Out of all my brothers and sisters and brothers and sisters in law:

One is a teacher
One is in the civil service
One is a policeman
One works at a university
Two work at charities
One is a paramedic

We are all stressing that we will lose our jobs / be unable to pay the mortgage when the Tories get in. All the cuts David Cameron is talking about will affect those of us working in the not-for-profit sector. In the case of the teacher, the policeman & the ambulance driver, they deliver vital services.

Why doesn't he promise cuts aimed at bankers and MPs instead?

Yes I am dyslexic - thank you for noticing.

Scary I am apposed to your politics not to you as a person but when a debate descends to communism not working in the USSR it's a bit like the Hitler theory (once Hitler is brought up in an argument the debate is ended and the argument lost).

Picking on the misuse of a homophone is also pretty odeous.

Oh and I am not in favour of Labour.. I vote Green.

manfrom, it is very unnerving, isn't it. A difficulty is that it is so hard to draw a line between someone who is legitimately joining a community in order to exchange political views, and someone who is just parasitising that community. When we get word-of-mouth social advertising types coming on here to drop Haliborange probiotic vitimins into their conversation, we can (unless they are very good at it) surmise that they are being paid and their motivation is inappropriate.

I imagine that with political word-of-mouth campaigners it is less clear cut? That they will be genuinely motivated people who like to talk lengthily about politics -- but that they are also here instrumentally, to glean votes and good press. Difficult therefore to define exactly when they are here inappropriately?

Manfrom - interesting, I will have a look at that link. Not that it surprises me, but I find it hilarious that they actually have a policy document on MN!!!

In any case nothing they could say on MN or elsewhere could change my mind about them, so YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME, LABOUR LOUTS! Unless, of course, you're paying MN lots of advertising money, in which case, keep up the good work!

Wonders if the OP is a secret Labour Party employee...

It is really very insidious, and to any poster who is here in that purely instrumental parasitising Haliborange word-of-mouth way I would like to say a personal fuck off.

Why is MN so pro labour anyway? I think MN is a pretty good representation of where I live but I don't many people who admit to voting Labour.

Most people I know vote the green party for some unknown reason. Considering they all drive huge cars and enjoy up to three long haul holidays a year I think they would be pretty stuffed if the greens got in. If the greens actually had a chance of being elected I'm sure most of the people I know wouldn't even consider voting them.

I would vote for lib dem if Nick Clegg wasn't such a twat. An election is looming and the world is full of problems and yet he finds time to talk about Gina Ford. Get yourself a real job mate.

I don't find it pro labour here at all, tdh. Certainly not if you read the web chat with Gordy; there was hardly a voice in support of his government.

And re Nick Clegg, perhaps that was his way of trying to appeal to the MN voters! See - they're all at it! DC comes on the MN, Labour are spying on us, and Cleggy is talking about GF.

"I find it extraordinary that those who are berating the Tories for their supposed self interest are doing nothing less themselves - talking about all of the things that they personally will be losing out on. There is a much bigger picture here - this country is in SERIOUS financial trouble" - Well that's all very well isn't it, for those who have enough money/security in their day to day life to make a decision based on something other than their own finances. Loads and loads, probably the majority of people, find it hard to make ends meet and things like tax credits, benefits etc are not just theoretical bonuses or to pay the nanny etc, but essentials (ask coldtits). I can't stand what the labour party have been up to since they got in (see above re: shouting at TV), they have been a bunch of corrupt, millionaire-loving kiss-asses firmly latched on to the private sector.

I used to campaign for the libdems as a student but they can just be so pathetic. If they had a better leader, one of their younger MPs like Sarah Teather for instance, with some pizzazz and decision-making qualities, I could go back to supporting them maybe.

I have nothing clever or sarcastic to write but for the love of god i will be voting the Tories in - BRING IT ON SOONER RATHER THAN LATER!

Manfrom - Thanks for that.

Yes, I hate it that people on MN are unaware they are being poltically engaged with. In fact it is ungaging. My new blended word.

Wereworm at haliborange.

What I really don't get is, when there are so many other parties, why do people think that a good argument for persuading others to vote Tory is "Labour have done a bad job"?

I blame MNHQ. Really. It is a state of affairs they are encouraging. Just take a look at the home page.

Why not something about Haiti or about the gap between rich and poor being at its most severe for 40 years? Or the rise in children in Britain living in extreme poverty.

Mumsnet's electioneering isn't doing anything to make parents' lives easier.

I agree Swedey.

I said Ninja, if you were dyslexic, then I'd apologise, so sorry; I know it's hard.

I want:
1: Strong defence and for it to be joined up with a coherent foreign policy
2: Defence to be properly funded and resourced
3: A level playing field in education with all students getting the same amount of money spent on them; not the regional variations and inequalities we see today
4: Benefits and help targeted at those who really need them
5: A simplified, understandable and accessible benefits and taxation system both at national and local level
6: Fraud in the public sector (including tax and benefit fraud) to be stamped out, or at least tackled as it costs the country £15 billion per annum
7: The tax free allowance to rise so that those on low incomes are taken out of tax
8: Our borders and immigration to be tightened up
9: A referendum on what we want as regards EU membership
10: The UK to get back in the black again

They will stop tax credits of any sort for any couple earning over £32k between them. They will though increase the IH tax threshold benifiting who, well only those that have more money bully for them whilst taxing middle income earners.

So although they will let couples have a tax break for being married - they will take away more than they give to lower earners...nice not

32k - I thought it was 50k

I thought it was £50k too - do you have a link for the £32k cutoff Ivykaty?

If it were 32k and there was a marriage tax allowance we would be better off DH quitting his job and staying home which is just ridiculous!