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[Eilatan]

if they get in:

They'll end HIPS so my husband will loose his job
He's actually a teacher but can't get work cos the last time they were in they brought in 'cover supervisors' ...unqualified people who are doing our jobs
They do away with the 15 hours nursery care...all we do is wait for our little un to be 3 so we can just break even each month... but no doubt these evil so and sos will take it away to pay for the w(b)ankers ineptitude
I expect they do away with the trust funds too
Teachers wages will be frozen ...
Over 60s cold weather payments? Ha! last time they were in Edwina Currie advised them to knit woolly gloves!
Any tiny power the unions have been able to claw back will go...
We'll be back to teaching kids that homosexuality is wrong and if a piece of literature wasn't written by someone dead, white and male it isn't worth reading
...if they get in I'm jacking it all in... going to sell the house and live in a caravan... no way am I working on Maggie's farm again!

Don't be fooled by all that caring for the family rubbish. All those c care for is making their own kind richer.

PLEASE don't vote for them.

they inherited a huge amount of money that had been culled from the poorest section of society via low wages, low benefits, and public funding cuts, none of which affects those who have good jobs and can afford to go private.

All labour did at first was give it back.

Noddy - quite agree. Hopefully 10-15 years, not 20 will sort it. There will have to be tax rises in some form and public sector cuts to pay for the deficit. It would be good to see something like a bank tax as Obama has mooted in the US to get some of the money back from the banks.

Coldtits - There is a need for cuts in public spending. Britain is in danger of losing its AAA rating. Should that happen, our country's already very burdensome debts will become even more expensive to service.

It's a bit like having a loan from Barclays and not cutting down on other spending in order to service the loan. And then getting into trouble and taking another, higher interest, loan from another lender to pay the first loan.

I know there is a need. Even I, who would not benefit at all from such cuts, would accept them as a needed thing.

But they'll take ONLY from the poorest people in society. If they're going to fiddle with the benefits system - jolly good, it's not efficient and the money is splatter-gunned rather than targeted(am thinking of the £190 'healthy eating in pregnancy' grant which you can't obtain until the 3rd trimester and is a fucking pointless waste anyway, as those who eat healthily do so anyway and those who don't - won't).

But they're going to ghettoise the Surestart scheme buy cutting funding to all but the most impoverished areas, meaning many poor people will not attend it because they are too proud, and their children will miss out.

I've been fucked for years, and have been since I kept a baby to a man too feckless to support us properly. Looks like now I'll have to roll over and be buttfucked too.

Speaking as a child of the seventies, I was mightily relieved when free school milk was phased out. Never could abide drinking the stuff, especially whan it was warm and curdled in the summer.

Incidently, it was a Labour government - not a Conservative one - who began the process of phasing out free school milk. 1968, Harold Wilson.

As for the need for savage cuts - both Darling and Brown have conceded they are necessary.

Labour will do the same as the tories they just haven't admitted it yet!

Coldtits - I don't think anyone will be benefitting from spending cuts in the short term.

scaryteacher, you may be a teacher in RL but you are not a teacher on MN. So your eagerness to correct other people's grammar is badly misplaced here.

So. Your errors. Well they bear a resemblance in a way to the error that you pointed out, in that although technically they're incorrect, everyone knows what you mean and nobody gives a monkey's.

I'll highlight them in bold:

"Sending my ds private was the only way I could get wraparound care in one place to enable me to do my job teaching, as dh was away with HM Forces. Childcare in rural Cornwall is hard to come by, believe me, especially when there is no public transport, and your family live 3.5 hours away. Private school that took ds from 0745 to 1900 so I could put in a full day and teach after school as well was the practical solution. I didn't see anywhere in my terms and conditions of employment that I couldn't spend my salary how I pleased."

1. 'private' - should be: 'to a private school'
2. 'my job teaching' - should be: 'my teaching job'
3. 'dh' - should be: 'my dh' (you did write 'my ds' at the top of this paragraph so clearly you're just being grammatically lazy )
4. 'ds' - I don't need to repeat myself here, do I? See point 3 if unsure.
5. 'how' - should be: 'as I pleased'

Not to mention the fact that you are using a colloquial spoken style in written English, which is playing havoc with your word ordr. Outrageous.

So you can see, I hope, that my pointing out your grammatical errors has made me look like a bit of a moron. I'm sure you don't need me to explain how this relates back to your earlier post.

Rofl! 'word order'!

(always preview before posting!)

Nasty and completely unnecessary.

Yes, that's what I thought when scary did it to someone else. Glad you agree, scarletlily.

Is that an attempt at humour? Pathetic.

Ooh forgot to link to my glorifying of Speedy's comments here: new MN disclaimers

Well said, Panicmode.Complete agreement

Rofl at Elephants!

So, scarlet, you think it's unacceptable for me to point out st's grammatical errors but not for st to do it to other people? And you expect me to take your opinion seriously? How interesting.

'If you think you might one day have kids/be ill/be made redundant/have a relative needing care etc etc etc'..............could be wrong but thought only in recent years you had to sell your home to fund care for the elderly. Also don't think there's any help with care for Alzheimers sufferers!

Don't get me started on Iraq and the lies and the fate of Dr David Kelly. This Labour Govt is underhand, lying and scary!

My heart sinks just a little further each time I hear another brave young man has been killed in Afghanistan..........Around 50 people were killed in 7/7 bombings but so far 251 soldiers have been sacrificed to make Britain safer! Am I the only one who just doesn't get this maths?

Scaryteacher and swedey - I love you!

I also agree with scaryteacher Heaven help us us if labour got in again. Panicmode and scaryteacher both talk a lot of sense.

I was going to walk away from this thread - but I couldn't resist looking again .

I find it extraordinary that those who are berating the Tories for their supposed self interest are doing nothing less themselves - talking about all of the things that they personally will be losing out on. There is a much bigger picture here - this country is in SERIOUS financial trouble that is going to take 15 to 20 years to sort out, and we all have to suffer in order to rebuild the country and avoid relegation into the second tier of global economies, because otherwise the debt is going to become even more expensive to service, and take even longer to pay back.

This Government has wasted such VAST amounts of taxpayers' money it is terrifying - have any of you read Squandered? If you are a staunch Labour supporter, please do, just to understand the levels of financial ineptitude that our so called "prudent" chancellor foisted on the country. PPP anyone?! The eyewatering amounts of money that have been sloshing about in the labour coffers for the past 12 years and which have amounted to almost nothing is a complete and utter travesty for us all.

DH and I pay very significant amounts of tax every year, and I also pay my nanny's tax, insurance and employer's NI, and the only 'perk' we get from this Government is child benefit and the child trust fund - both of which are likely to disappear for higher rate taxpayers regardless of who comes in to Government next time around.

Yet, I am going to be a turkey voting for Christmas (because I am sure that the Tories will abolish both for higher rate tax payers) because this country's deficit needs to be brought under control - somehow - and I don't think that Darling and Brown have a clue what they are talking about, and certainly aren't the people to get us out of the mire, given that they got us here in the first place. If they'd read and understood any sort of economic theory, they would have understood that to talk about Labour bringing and end to boom and bust was the most preposterously arrogant thing to have ever said, and they may have saved more and spent less in the good times in order to have something in reserve now we're in this mess.

franatash - good that makes at least four of us voting Tory then!

I'd vote scaryteacher and swedey...seriously, I think we need a MN party

Panic - I for one have no doubt that Labour have been inept and damaging from 1997 to the present day - not to say that they've done no good, but that they've also done a lot of damage along with it.

But I do also doubt that in their own sweet way, the Tories will not also do the same. I will, as ever, read all the manifestos, and I will, as ever, vote; but I do it with a heavy heart, not believing in any of the parties. On the other hand, a MN party, you say? Hmm...sounds promising!

The only way to deal with this effectively is a short sharp shock.Unfortunately this affects certain people more than others and it is not clear from what any of them are saying exactly what will be cut when.Taxes will have to rise public spending cut and IR raised.House prices will have to be sacrificed too as the labout r party have kept them artificially inflated this last few months as they don't want the carnage that would have been repossessions.To move the housing market firat time buyers need to be able to buy at reasonable salary multiples so that they can also afford to spend on consumer goods etc not just the roof over their heads.

The Tories may very well get in, but at least all their good policies will be nicked by Labour's campaign by then.

I am keeping my fingers crossed for a marriage tax break, personally. And as a FTB I need them to allow a London weighting to the house buy scheme - because earning £60 as a couple in Glasgow is not the same as in London.

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Am I the only person who thinks it would serve David Cameron right if his wife files for divorce. (Evil bitch emoticon)

It's his general smugness that gets my goat.

Yes, poshsinglemum, I think you may be - what a horrid sentiment.

He may well be smug, but that's no reason to wish that on him is it?