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Has Andy Burnham ended up as PM somewhat under false pretences?

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Imdunfer · 25/10/2026 08:19

Please note that this is from a left wing Labour supporting paper.

It turns out that the marvellous redevelopment of Manchester that was the central plank of his credibility to become PM was triggered by the fall of Mubarak in Egypt in 2011 and what were effectively, or previously close to, bribes set up by the then Tory government to retain our massive defence contracts with the Middle East.

The owners of Man City, recently found guilty of breaking well over 100 financial football rules, are heavily involved. UK developers were excluded from access to large development contracts. Man City was sold a deal including the naming rights to the stadium, owned by the council, for £750k a year when professional rights brokers estimate the market value to be between £10m and £15m a year for the name alone.

The question is, did a local Mayor with no experience outside politics and only a tiny amount of experience of cabinet roles, (3 jobs in 3 years), get to be Prime Minister without a challenge on the strength of the development of the centre of his city that he actually only had a small part in creating?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2026/oct/25/thats-the-way-the-city-works-how-the-uae-changed-the-face-of-andy-burnhams-manchester

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BIossomtoes · 02/11/2026 20:38

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:37

Do you know the answer?

No time for silly games.

Twogreenbottles · 02/11/2026 20:40

BIossomtoes · 02/11/2026 20:38

No time for silly games.

It is silly, because the answer is 0

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:40

placemats · 02/11/2026 20:35

Tories as well. Own it.

Let's move on.

And don't quote me anymore. Many thanks.

And don't quote me anymore

Why? Don't you like me pointing out your mistakes?

HelpMyBlackLabradorVotesReform · 02/11/2026 20:41

BIossomtoes · 02/11/2026 20:38

No time for silly games.

Come on, from the amount you post the one thing you do seem to have is time!

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:41

BIossomtoes · 02/11/2026 20:38

No time for silly games.

Tony Blair the war criminal? Keir Starmer and his voice coach?

placemats · 02/11/2026 20:45

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:40

And don't quote me anymore

Why? Don't you like me pointing out your mistakes?

Do you understand consent rules?

You have broken my reasonable request so I can only conclude that you are hounding me.

BIossomtoes · 02/11/2026 20:48

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:41

Tony Blair the war criminal? Keir Starmer and his voice coach?

Truss the economy crasher? May the majority loser? We can all play.

TemperanceWest · 02/11/2026 20:49

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:41

Tony Blair the war criminal? Keir Starmer and his voice coach?

Keir Starmer and his voice coach?

No investigation was made so no case to answer. You are right on Blair, though.

LuckyHazelFox · 02/11/2026 20:49

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:40

And don't quote me anymore

Why? Don't you like me pointing out your mistakes?

😆 🤣

Eraserewind · 02/11/2026 20:50

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:40

And don't quote me anymore

Why? Don't you like me pointing out your mistakes?

Great comeback.

TemperanceWest · 02/11/2026 20:52

BIossomtoes · 02/11/2026 20:48

Truss the economy crasher? May the majority loser? We can all play.

Cameron the coward. Thatcher the war criminal. Major the adulterer (sorry to bring it up, John).

placemats · 02/11/2026 20:52

It's demonstrably clear that the UK doesn't have the heart or the mindset for the far right. This is a glorious place where people fought Fascism. With their lives, their limbs and their mental health.

We as nations collectively will never forget the rise of Fascism or those who promoted it.

This continues today.

hedgeknight · 02/11/2026 20:53

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:41

Tony Blair the war criminal? Keir Starmer and his voice coach?

Is this false rumours territory? Johnson and the violinist?

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:53

placemats · 02/11/2026 20:45

Do you understand consent rules?

You have broken my reasonable request so I can only conclude that you are hounding me.

You quoted me twice this evening before I quoted your post. It would appear that you are hounding me!

Eraserewind · 02/11/2026 20:54

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:53

You quoted me twice this evening before I quoted your post. It would appear that you are hounding me!

It’s a Catch-22, as a growing number of us have discovered….

placemats · 02/11/2026 20:56

TemperanceWest · 02/11/2026 20:52

Cameron the coward. Thatcher the war criminal. Major the adulterer (sorry to bring it up, John).

Could never imagine John and Edwina getting down and heavy between the bedsheets.

LizzieW1969 · 02/11/2026 20:56

TemperanceWest · 02/11/2026 20:52

Cameron the coward. Thatcher the war criminal. Major the adulterer (sorry to bring it up, John).

It’s fair enough in view of ‘back to basics’, though, as he was obviously having an affair with Edwina Currie at the time. (And i say this as someone who actually liked him.)

placemats · 02/11/2026 20:56

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:53

You quoted me twice this evening before I quoted your post. It would appear that you are hounding me!

Reported.

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:57

hedgeknight · 02/11/2026 20:53

Is this false rumours territory? Johnson and the violinist?

Not a rumour - a joke.

No police action over Starmer voice coach claims

A Met Police spokesperson said the alleged incident fell outside the three-year deadline for initiating proceedings related to pandemic-era legislation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5r2lv2leo

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 21:00

placemats · 02/11/2026 20:56

Reported.

Reported for what? You did pick on two of my posts earlier this evening before I chose one of yours.

hedgeknight · 02/11/2026 21:00

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 20:57

Not a rumour - a joke.

No police action over Starmer voice coach claims

A Met Police spokesperson said the alleged incident fell outside the three-year deadline for initiating proceedings related to pandemic-era legislation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5r2lv2leo

No rules were broken, why bring it up?

BIossomtoes · 02/11/2026 21:00

hedgeknight · 02/11/2026 21:00

No rules were broken, why bring it up?

Cheap point scoring as per.

hedgeknight · 02/11/2026 21:01

How can you have a discussions when posters shout 'hounding' Hmm

Or is that a joke as well?

placemats · 02/11/2026 21:01

There's some very male centered misogynistic posts going on here.

Quit it. Respect the wishes and consent of others. Stop with the macho bonhomie.

Clavinova · 02/11/2026 21:02

hedgeknight · 02/11/2026 21:00

No rules were broken, why bring it up?

It doesn't say no rules were broken - outside the time limit for prosecution.

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