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Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

noblegiraffe · 09/07/2026 19:58

https://x.com/rewildscotland/status/2075217666600497205?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g (video)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3gdj300lyo (article for those not on twitter)

His poor dad had to lock his guns away as a consequence.

Is 'bring back school shootings' a Restore policy?

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 22:01

Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

No he didn't - he was questioned and he repeated his claim

noblegiraffe · 09/07/2026 22:05

Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

Do you think that it is legitimate to call Dunblane 'one murder'?

It was at least, multiple murders. Of primary school children and their teacher.

To talk about it as if your dad having to lock away his handguns was an overblown reaction instead of the only reasonable response is despicable.

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noblegiraffe · 09/07/2026 22:05

@Peony1985 how many school massacres are you willing to accept in exchange for looser gun laws?

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Teanbiscuits33 · 09/07/2026 22:11

Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

This is a complete false equivalence. Cars are a form of transport that are sometimes in accidents. Guns are made to use to shoot and kill things. Your argument sounds like Charlie Kirk positing whether cars should be banned. Most car fatalities are accidental, most gun fatalities are not. There are way more cars in the world than there are guns. Your argument does not stack.

Which legitimate uses apart from farming and policing do we need guns for?

Pippin2017 · 09/07/2026 22:12

Lowe is dangerous. Tbh, I would have preferred Farage to stay in position, even with the possibility of his ending up as PM, rather than him leaving a vacuum for Lowe to fill. Lowe is an evil individual, and I don't call someone evil lightly.

Notonthestairs · 09/07/2026 22:18

Not a surprise to see the US gun lobby wants to flog more guns. Expand their market.

Also not a surprise to see Lowe traducing the UK - he’ll do anything to keep in with Musk etc.

Thankfully this is an area where the majority agree we don’t need to see more guns in the UK.

Rupert Lowe bemoans the handgun ban due to 'one murder' in Dunblane
SoBoredOfSelfDoubtHowToGetOut · 09/07/2026 22:20

Foul man.

buffyajp · 09/07/2026 22:26

Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

I have no words for this. Tough. Our gun laws are not changing back so I suggest you move elsewhere if you don’t like it. Unfortunately for you in this country that opinion is very much in the minority. Thank goodness. I will forever be grateful to the snowdrop campaign and the parents for ensuring my kids didn’t have to face the same threat just by going to school.

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2026 22:27

I honestly don't understand the electoral logic in wanting to relax gun laws. The public already get annoyed about the level of knife crime. There is no public will to want owning a gun made easier. We've never been a gun owning culture so it's not even something you whip up cheap nostalgia about.

But, yes, he's a cunt.

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2026 22:30

Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

No. If he meant one incident, he could have said that. He carefully chose to say one murder to give a false impression of what happened at Dunblane. Deliberately said it to mislead the show's audience.

Teanbiscuits33 · 09/07/2026 22:33

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2026 22:27

I honestly don't understand the electoral logic in wanting to relax gun laws. The public already get annoyed about the level of knife crime. There is no public will to want owning a gun made easier. We've never been a gun owning culture so it's not even something you whip up cheap nostalgia about.

But, yes, he's a cunt.

Do you think that’s at least partly why the idea that ‘’Britain is lawless’’ and ‘’two tier policing’’ is being pushed? If enough people start to believe that our streets are awash with crime and the police do not protect us, more people will be sympathetic towards gun ownership for self protection? 🤔

Notonthestairs · 09/07/2026 22:33

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2026 22:27

I honestly don't understand the electoral logic in wanting to relax gun laws. The public already get annoyed about the level of knife crime. There is no public will to want owning a gun made easier. We've never been a gun owning culture so it's not even something you whip up cheap nostalgia about.

But, yes, he's a cunt.

A “consistently negligible” 3-4% want to relax regulations.

So the only reason he’d make the argument is to pander to American right in exchange for money and influence. Selling out the UK.

danglethedingle · 09/07/2026 22:36

The ban on handguns is one of the best things about the UK, I cannot imagine how parents in America send their kids off to school without constantly worrying there will be a shooting.

And bloody right his father should have kept his guns in a locked box, to have kept them anywhere else is just insane.

Pippin2017 · 09/07/2026 23:01

Notonthestairs · 09/07/2026 22:33

A “consistently negligible” 3-4% want to relax regulations.

So the only reason he’d make the argument is to pander to American right in exchange for money and influence. Selling out the UK.

Indeed. Follow the money. Same with Christian Nationalism and anti abortion rhetoric.

AnneElliott · 09/07/2026 23:07

He’s bonkers - one of the things I’m proud of in this country is that we took action to ban handguns after Dunblane. I watched the recent documentary on it and some of the parents had replies to their letters from MPs saying “I’m sorry your child was murdered but…” I mean who on earth would say such a thing? Robert Lowe would obviously- odious man.

Enko · 09/07/2026 23:07

MissAmbrosia · 09/07/2026 20:39

I still remember the mothers screaming for their children outside the school. Why does any one need guns at all outside the farming community?

Me too I can still hear that poor mother just crying out repeatedly "Victoria"

Also it was not 1 murder it was 17...

Comments like Lowes angers me. He is basically saying my hobby is more important than your children's lives.

No Lowe it's not..

Charys · 09/07/2026 23:12

I am struggling to believe he said this unconsciously. I can’t figure out what he’s trying to achieve by being misleading within earshot of people he wants to vote for him.

Teanbiscuits33 · 09/07/2026 23:16

Charys · 09/07/2026 23:12

I am struggling to believe he said this unconsciously. I can’t figure out what he’s trying to achieve by being misleading within earshot of people he wants to vote for him.

Probably pandering to his trillionaire sugar daddy Musk. That and the fact that many far right voters vote on vibes and don’t think things through very well so most of them would think this was a fantastic idea.

They do also have a tendency to enjoy violence so they will be salivating at the prospect of being able to shoot a Muslim or some other minority they don’t like and get away with it, probably.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 09/07/2026 23:24

His dickhead supporters are saying he meant one incident. The interviewer asked him to confirm one murder, which he did. He is a lying scumbag. No patriot, trying to make the UK seem ridiculous to Americans. He is as contemptable as Farage. Maybe even worse.

PermanentTemporary · 09/07/2026 23:26

@Peony1985 Thomas Hamilton had a licence for the multiple guns he used to murder. That was the point. That existing laws had not operated effectively in safeguarding the public and therefore new legislation was needed.

SkinnyOatFlatWhiteForMePleaseBarista · 09/07/2026 23:27

noblegiraffe · 09/07/2026 22:05

Do you think that it is legitimate to call Dunblane 'one murder'?

It was at least, multiple murders. Of primary school children and their teacher.

To talk about it as if your dad having to lock away his handguns was an overblown reaction instead of the only reasonable response is despicable.

The man is a repugnant individual who knew exactly what he was saying when he used the term ‘one murder’. @noblegiraffeis right to be disgusted!

Theyreeatingthedogs · 09/07/2026 23:28

Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

You are so wrong here. Did you not hear him double down on one murder when the interviewer asked him? He is a lying scumbag and you are stupidly trying to defend the indefensible.

JuliettaCaeser · 09/07/2026 23:28

There are people walking round today who could have not been due to those parents campaign. It was hard fought only came in when new labour got in.

WhatAMarvelousTune · 09/07/2026 23:30

Peony1985 · 09/07/2026 21:55

Clearly he meant one incident rather than death.

The point being that the twats that kill people do so with illegal guns.

Cars kill more people hence licensing having a test, insurance etc. Guns have legitimate uses and theres no reason why we trust people with one lethal object but not another.

RL “As you probably know they banned handguns because there was a murder up in Dunblane”
JR ”one murder?”
RL ”One murder”

Clearly he knows Dunblane was more than one murder. But he was deliberately trying to downplay it to make a point along the lines of “didn’t we overreact by banning guns, how ridiculous to ban it over such an inconsequential incident”.
There’s no good faith reason to describe Dunblane as “one murder”.