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Starmer's resigned

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Sadcafe · 22/06/2026 09:44

So the admittedly boring but truly decent PM has announced his resignation and the egotistical, pompous Burnham will doubtless become PM. God help the country

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dh280125 · 22/06/2026 13:48

RedTagAlan · 22/06/2026 09:49

Why ?

Labour are in power.

Not on a mandate that reflects likely Burnham policies, which will significantly move the party to the left. It's pretty bad ethics to not call a GE if you are changing the direction of policy significantly. Of the PM's who took over mid-term since 1900 (11 in total) 6 called a snap election, 5 did not. Both recent Conservative examples (May and Johnson) called elections (2017, 2019).

igelkott2026 · 22/06/2026 13:48

Advocodo · 22/06/2026 13:45

I think the press have hounded Starmer and that is cruel.

I think they will hound Burnham too. They hate Labour and he's from up north, too. The horror of it!

The only thing is he's not a woman. Whatever you think of Rachel Reeves, she's had a harder time of it because she's female. Nobody would ever refer to "Boris from Accounts".

Redpaisley · 22/06/2026 13:48

Floattheboats · 22/06/2026 09:56

Starmer was awful. Burnham will be equally awful but more to the left. God help us

So who do you think is less awful? Any leader / PM material policial you support?

the80sweregreat · 22/06/2026 13:49

In most countries the man playing the music would have been told to move on swiftly by security or the police. Totally unwanted and ridiculous. It was an important speech not an afternoon fete.

NetZeroZealot · 22/06/2026 13:52

KeepPumping · 22/06/2026 13:29

As far as large numbers of voters are concerned he was not "decent", he had a globalist agenda and wanted to bend the knee again to the EU, and he had ideas about mass surveilance/intrusion/ digital ID etc. Good riddance, been a long wait it feels like to get rid of this clown.

Spot the Reform supporter

KeepPumping · 22/06/2026 13:53

NetZeroZealot · 22/06/2026 13:52

Spot the Reform supporter

Not hard to spot really, there are very large numbers of them roaming around. The good news is that he is finally gone.

EarthSight · 22/06/2026 13:53

Allmarbleslost · 22/06/2026 09:53

It's just utter madness. The last thing this country needs is another period of political instability. What difference do people think Burnham will actually make??

The problem seems to be within the Labour Party, not Starmer specifically.

They've become quite detached from working class people, demonising those that oppose higher levels of immigration and the concerns they have about the economic problems that it causes people at the very bottom of the wage ladder. Somehow, they understand those concerns when it comes to A.I job losses, but not when it comes to immigration which is treated like Holy Grail that must not be questioned, especially in middle class circles.

The above should be be a very Left wing concern, as it is in some countries, but because of the pressure that I suspect that big business has put on the government (to get cheap labour), this concern has been thoroughly shoved to the Right, and with that and their enthusiasm for trampling over women's rights in favour of trans demands, they've alienated an incredible amount of people.

Some small-C conservatives might be willing to vote for them because they're fed up of the Tory party and aren't willing to vote for Reform. Some people who's like to vote Green or Lib Dems are voting for them because they see them as a stronger and more credible party, but they're not able to fully satisfy centrists nor people that are leaning more Left or Right.

dh280125 · 22/06/2026 13:53

EasternStandard · 22/06/2026 11:37

That’s not correct. Rayner called for an election.

May and Johnson both called elections - 2017 and 2019, though it took Johnson several votes to get his approved.

NetZeroZealot · 22/06/2026 13:54

Pipsquiggle · 22/06/2026 13:40

What short memories some people have.

This country is in the shit mainly due to austerity and Brexit - years and years of underfunding of public services, particularly affecting the poorest in society coupled with us voting to make everything 10 times more difficult and expensive to do business with our largest and closest trading partner, the EU.

The above was brought in by the Tories and UKIP /Farage (and his millionaire backers). Shame on them all.

Keir Starmer is a decent man. I think he would make a brilliant Home or Foreign Secretary. His communication skills are lacking, however, I would take him any day over the grifters of Farage and BoJo.

Andy Burnham has been extremely effective both in his time as Health Secretary & Culture Secretary and as Mayor of Manchester. He is a better communicator than Keir. If he gets to be PM, I wish him well.

Well said

Ivyy · 22/06/2026 13:54

r0ck · 22/06/2026 10:01

I think this is a complete own goal by Labour and they've shown themselves to be as bad as the bloody Conservatives with their in-party squabbling and personal ambitions now leading to further instability for the country. Sick of the bloody lot of them.

This, and if Andy Burnham is as left wing as I keep reading on here, we’re heading for a Reform government in the next GE

baroqueandblue · 22/06/2026 13:54

EvolvedAlready · 22/06/2026 11:25

Sorry hun didn’t mean to cause you an eye roll. Hope you’re ok after my unacceptable addition to mumsnet xx

You're a shit stirrer, hun.

KeepPumping · 22/06/2026 13:55

EarthSight · 22/06/2026 13:53

The problem seems to be within the Labour Party, not Starmer specifically.

They've become quite detached from working class people, demonising those that oppose higher levels of immigration and the concerns they have about the economic problems that it causes people at the very bottom of the wage ladder. Somehow, they understand those concerns when it comes to A.I job losses, but not when it comes to immigration which is treated like Holy Grail that must not be questioned, especially in middle class circles.

The above should be be a very Left wing concern, as it is in some countries, but because of the pressure that I suspect that big business has put on the government (to get cheap labour), this concern has been thoroughly shoved to the Right, and with that and their enthusiasm for trampling over women's rights in favour of trans demands, they've alienated an incredible amount of people.

Some small-C conservatives might be willing to vote for them because they're fed up of the Tory party and aren't willing to vote for Reform. Some people who's like to vote Green or Lib Dems are voting for them because they see them as a stronger and more credible party, but they're not able to fully satisfy centrists nor people that are leaning more Left or Right.

Good points.

Pipsquiggle · 22/06/2026 13:55

Badbadbunny · 22/06/2026 13:45

Austerity was required because of the 2008 crash. Miliband also supported austerity whilst he was Labour leader heading into the general election. Economists said after the crash it would take 10 years for the economy to recover.

What happened after 10 years? It was the eve of Covid, which had even more detrimental impact on the economy than the 2008 crash. Again, economists said 10 years for the country economy to recover which pushes us to the end of the 2020's decade.

Public sector spending and national debt has risen far higher than inflation over the past 15 years, so it's arguable whether we even had austerity in any meaningful form.

@Badbadbunny

Take a look at this from Dr Hannah Fry on Austerity
https://www.instagram.com/reels/C2ZKCdANyrY/

Austerity was a choice. A really bad one. Based on an excel error.
Honestly, you couldn't make it up.

Hannah Fry on Instagram: "Just after the financial crisis, an influential paper called “Growth in a time of debt” was published, in which two Harvard profs used data to show that high levels of debt hurt a nations economic growth. The paper was cited...

88K likes, 960 comments - fryrsquared on January 21, 2024: "Just after the financial crisis, an influential paper called “Growth in a time of debt” was published, in which two Harvard profs used data to show that high levels of debt hurt a nations econ...

https://www.instagram.com/reels/C2ZKCdANyrY

dh280125 · 22/06/2026 13:57

ForRedPoet · 22/06/2026 12:21

Another £90 odd million for a general election every time a PM leaves?!
I sincerely hope not. Those crowing for one are out of their minds.
You vote for the party, not the person.

No, you vote for the policies. That's why manifestos exist. Labour has been many different parties over my time as a voter. I've always voted for them in the past, but that doesn't mean I think they shouldn't have to go to the country if they are making a major change in policy -- which they surely are going to do.

tommyhoundmum · 22/06/2026 13:57

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 22/06/2026 13:16

It's the last thing we need.
Bit of stability would be good, instead of all this circus.
Whether you like it or not, Labour were voted in.
That's how democracy works. You can't just demand another one as you don't like the result.🙄
People wanted Starmer out, so they've got their wish - now for Andy Burnham or whoever to take over and stick it out until the next election due in 2029. It's what people wanted, right? A new leader to take over? Or, as it seems going by all these comments, just a way to destabilise and cause more chaos and because they don't want Labour in at all? Nothing to do with not liking Starmer, it seems and everything to do with throwing a tantrum as Labour's in power and not the Cons or Reform.

I have no objection to anyone competent but it cannot be right to have a "coronation" after a vote by just 77,000 when people should have the chance to vote for their new leader.

I had nothing against Starmer as PM. "Andy" will not be what this country needs as he doesn't understand there is no money and £11billion in interest payments on our debts must be made regularly.

TeethAreImportant · 22/06/2026 13:58

Duvetdayneeded · 22/06/2026 09:54

Angela reeves I think went crazy on twitter when there was a conservative change of leadership saying a general election MUST take place as it was disgraceful to have an unelected by the people leader at the top…. Is she going to eat her words now…

Who's Angela Reeves? Is she Rachel Rayners alter ego ;0)

Badbadbunny · 22/06/2026 14:01

igelkott2026 · 22/06/2026 13:48

I think they will hound Burnham too. They hate Labour and he's from up north, too. The horror of it!

The only thing is he's not a woman. Whatever you think of Rachel Reeves, she's had a harder time of it because she's female. Nobody would ever refer to "Boris from Accounts".

They also hounded Tim Farron when he was Libdem leader over his Christian beliefs!

With a good leader like Farron, Libdems could have been a big player in the last couple of elections, but Ed Davey has no presence at all and has made the Libdems invisible and irrelevant.

the80sweregreat · 22/06/2026 14:02

I’m not too worried about a change in manifesto , because the minute Andy Burnham tries to , the press will make sure we all know about it and jump on that and the calls for a General Election will grow louder and louder. His not going to get his own way with changing anything. The press already seem to be hinting things and getting it out there about tax rises and land taxes and all the other things he may want to try and change.

dh280125 · 22/06/2026 14:03

igelkott2026 · 22/06/2026 13:48

I think they will hound Burnham too. They hate Labour and he's from up north, too. The horror of it!

The only thing is he's not a woman. Whatever you think of Rachel Reeves, she's had a harder time of it because she's female. Nobody would ever refer to "Boris from Accounts".

You know that in recent years 10 of the UK press have been Labour supporting, inc. the FT, Sunday Times, Guardian, Observer etc, not just the rags like the Mirror? But they're still papers, they can't just blindly support a bad PM and pretend nothing is going wrong.

LovingTelescopes · 22/06/2026 14:08

igelkott2026 · 22/06/2026 13:48

I think they will hound Burnham too. They hate Labour and he's from up north, too. The horror of it!

The only thing is he's not a woman. Whatever you think of Rachel Reeves, she's had a harder time of it because she's female. Nobody would ever refer to "Boris from Accounts".

Did they apply that moniker to: Margaret Thatcher; Theresa May; Yvette Cooper; Shirley Williams; Mo Mowlem; Kemi Badenoch; Penny Mordaunt or Betty Boothroyd?

No is the answer.

They have applied derogatory monikers to Rachel Reeves and Liz Truss and they have been well deserved. They have also applied them to lots of men.

If the cap fits, wear it and stop pretending her sex is the only reason people call her, Rachel from Accounts.

Twiglets1 · 22/06/2026 14:10

KeepPumping · 22/06/2026 13:29

As far as large numbers of voters are concerned he was not "decent", he had a globalist agenda and wanted to bend the knee again to the EU, and he had ideas about mass surveilance/intrusion/ digital ID etc. Good riddance, been a long wait it feels like to get rid of this clown.

Who do you support - Zack Polanski?

MsGreying · 22/06/2026 14:10

Greigesofa · 22/06/2026 10:01

Burnham will not lurch to the left, he’s going to be business friendly. But Labour have just given up their moral high ground over the Tories revolving doors of PMs with this. The PM leadership role is to lead not be the reactive person to your own party factions. I am so sad he’s gone.

Sing printing and putting up businesses maybe.

Just remember how much he wasted on GM CAZ.

lastapache · 22/06/2026 14:11

igelkott2026 · 22/06/2026 13:48

I think they will hound Burnham too. They hate Labour and he's from up north, too. The horror of it!

The only thing is he's not a woman. Whatever you think of Rachel Reeves, she's had a harder time of it because she's female. Nobody would ever refer to "Boris from Accounts".

Unfortunately, if you want anyone left of centre to run a country, they need to be a white male, charismatic and from the home counties. Same in America - if you want a democratic president they need to be a white male, charismatic and perferably from a Southern state.

Being from a minority, and also socialist, is too much for most people. It's unfortunate but true. Hence why the Conservatives can field a female or south asian PM without much blow back from the media. And hence why the US swung so wildly to the right following Obama's presidency.

For that sole reason, Rachel Reeves would have been a disaster.

Although I don't know too much about Burnham, he must have some charisma to be able to swing sitting MPs to get rid of their leader while not even being a sitting MP himself. Manchester voters seem to really like him, but whether that translates "down south" is another question. But in his favour, he's white and male.

If he's smart, he'll court Murdoch and his ilk. It's really the only way to get the papers off your back - even in times where the internet rules, it's surprising how much sway the Times and the Sun still have.

That means you can't have a true Labour government - you're basically the Lib Dems in a Labour coat. So be it - I think most people are actually closer to the centre than they'll readily admit. It won't stop the Russian and Chinese bots attempting to destabilise your government, but that will happen whether its Labour or Conservatives. The only party they won't attempt to destabilise is Reform, because they know that they'll do a great job of burning down the UK all by themselves.

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 22/06/2026 14:11

dh280125 · 22/06/2026 14:03

You know that in recent years 10 of the UK press have been Labour supporting, inc. the FT, Sunday Times, Guardian, Observer etc, not just the rags like the Mirror? But they're still papers, they can't just blindly support a bad PM and pretend nothing is going wrong.

Edited

Oh come on. The Murdock empire wants a right wing government. Rather disingenuous to compare the power of Murdock to The Observer!

PrettyDamnCosmic · 22/06/2026 14:13

Kirschcherries · 22/06/2026 13:31

Wes is playing the long game.

Wes is playing the long game.

He is young enough at 43 years versus Burnham's 56 years.