Starmer's resigned

[Sadcafe]

So the admittedly boring but truly decent PM has announced his resignation and the egotistical, pompous Burnham will doubtless become PM. God help the country

Quite like the Nick Dixon tweet, it explains how many people see him-

Starmer is a managerial midwit.
A brittle man of winter.
A dead-eyed shark pushing ever forward towards his next grim, mechanical task.
You could coax Shakespeare himself down from the heavens to tell him of all England’s beauty and he would only be annoyed that you had kept him from his busywork.
He is a ruddy-faced nothing, an interloper.
To call him a traitor flatters him, as the traitor surely has some sense of his own wrongdoing. Starmer lacks the imagination to arrive even at the foothills of his own wretchedness.
His emptiness could fill entire stadia.
He is the final form of managerial man, signing Britain’s death warrant before lunch and never thinking about it twice.
To detest him is normal, yet pointless.
Hatred slides off him like water off some cheap synthetic fabric.
He is the blank-faced destroyer of joy, freedom and invention. He is death on prescription, equally distributed.
He is nameless dread, the void, the negation that cannot be negated.
He is the end of hope.

In short, I am not a fan.

Well yeh because mnhq can check and she’s wrong and will be deleted.

Who is Nick Dixon?

It’s about time it was written into law if an existing PM resigns or leaves the post for what ever reason, there must be a General Election called

So when a PM steps down on health grounds like Wilson or MacMillan there should be a General Election? That's nuts.

I am sad, I actually think he had done ok given the absolute mess he took on. I prefer my prime ministers to be boring and experienced, rather than populist. The press had tried to dig up dirt on him for ages and came up with nothing much, well nothing compared to what the other shady bas**rds get up to. But unfortunately the public don’t seem to care as long as they spout the right nonsense and make their empty promises. Think Burnham will last 5 mins and be the end of the Labour government, own goal for sure. Not sure who to vote for anymore?!

What is the point in linking to an article behind a paywall? We aren't all FT subscribers.

Doesn't matter if she is wrong or not. It would be deleted as mnhq don't allow troll or bot hunting on threads.

Another act of self destruction for the Uk and pushing us further along the path to a Reform Government. So glad I have an EU passport and am looking forward to the day I can get out of dodge.

So don’t do it as the pp did. If she can’t back it up it’s just sour grapes over losing the PM.

Totally agree with the fury at the disloyalty Starmer has been treated with. Traitors.

Another £90 odd million for a general election every time a PM leaves?!
I sincerely hope not. Those crowing for one are out of their minds.
You vote for the party, not the person.

@Belinabow

I'm not a member of any particular party, but I find what's happened this week to be disgusting - it appears to me that the media were intent on whipping up drama to outst him for a long time, and Labour have simply given into it.

The media have done the same to Tory and Libdem leaders too! It's not just an anti-labour thing.

Look at how they hounded out Tim Farron when he was libdem leader for his Christian beliefs and he wasn't even the prime minister.

If you’re all furious now just wait to see what it’s like under Burnham!

She deleted the tweet. Rules for thee but not for me.

The lack of consistency in the values and morality of our political class would be laughable if the country wasn’t in such a state.

From my perspective it’s the other way round. Yes, he made some very questionable decisions and wasn’t the greatest of communicators, but the press and social media were absolutely vilifying him from day one about every single decision.

The wider Labour Party saw what was going on and followed their lead. If he wasn’t getting such bad press, there would have been no call for his resignation. The press leads on these things, they always have.

People can criticise him for all his U turning, and I do get what people said about them making him look weak, but it is any wonder he changed his mind so much when it seemed as though he couldn’t do right for wrong?

Decision gets criticised > decision gets changed > decision gets criticised 🤣

Corban was a phenomenon. He came along offering a dramatic change of direction to an extremely dissatisfied electorate and earned a messiah like status. Do you remember the whole of Glastonbury chanting his name to seven nation army? I've never seen such a thing before or since. He generated an interest in politics and rebellion against the status quo that garnered support from the formerly ambivalent.
Farage is doing similar, albeit to a far lesser extent.
I'd not see that phenomenon as an indication that on consideration more people would prefer Corbyn as PM over Starmer given the choice.

No they follow what the electorate say. And in particular what is said on the doorstep when canvassing.

I think Starmer should have stayed and carried on doing the job, but it'll be interesting to see how Burnham does if he becomes PM. He could be great, need to give him a chance now.
Then no General Election unless it's time for one (which is 2029 I think.) Just let the party who got voted in get on with doing the job instead of all this nonsense.

I don't know why Starmer is in tears, it's us that should be crying. Yet another disastrous comedy (or not) government.
Yet more months of stagnation while they all squabble to be PM. Yet another magic roundabout of swinging door PMs.
Bloody hell.

Yup. Starmer sealed his own downfall by committing to no tax rises during the 2024 general election when it was blatantly obvious that tax rises were needed. Then the flip-flopping about who were "hard workers" etc. It was all an absolute joke the way he caught himself in knots with it.

It committed the hopeless Reeves to the only "tax" she had left being employers NIC which has caused business contraction/failures and job losses. The exact opposite to what the country needs. Then of course the sixth form level politics of envy of VAT on private schools and IHT on farmers which achieved bugger all in terms of tax raising but caused huge amounts of anger and negative publicity!

Stupid really, as with the way that Sunak caused the Tory vote to collapse, Starmer could have still won the GE without making such a stupid promise not to raise taxes!

It's backed them into a corner which they can't get out from.

become a poet, write something rhymic and thoughtful. It’s absolute crap. It’s got no link to the man himself who did what was considered impossible, he got rid of the man who nearly broke the Labour Party, (that’s the fantasist Corbyn and his dolally acolyts ) and made us elected. He did the dirty Work he was our Churchill.
But now that war is over and it’s time for Burnham

Really? So the press have nothing to do with it then? What bollocks. If the press didn’t have an impact, it wouldn’t exist. It exists to shape public opinion.

People just reacted to Starmer. Obviously not you but enough for it to be a majority feedback on the doorstep. Labour MPs have acted on that feedback.

But in the meantime you'll stay and gloat?

We'd be better off if you went now.

“The end of hope”? Really? After the madness of Johnson and Truss, you consider Starmer to have been “the end of hope”? For fucks sake. Put the daily mail down love. And the crack pipe.