Do you want a change of leader?

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BBC are predicting the PM should stand down. I know this is not news, but why can we not have a period of stability?

Andy Burnham is much lefter in terms of policies and may not follow the manifesto Labour got in on.

Left or right the country needs a longer term plan.

What do others think?

Exactly “better communicator” simply equals better at bullshitting and talking the talk. That is not what anyone needs. We need someone hard working willing to make the difficult decisions.
Starmer should have replaced Reeves though, she is awful! Mahmood is good, some of them are good and delivering.
Wes Streeting I know find really overly emotional and slimy too.

I have read what people are saying and it sounds as if it is the Chancellor that a lot of people have a problem with. If Burnham is as good as he says - if everyone cares about country then maybe he should be promoted to that role.

Jeez, it’s always the fault of the press with Labour. 🙄 Like the press didn’t hammer May or Johnson or Truss.

If Starmer had been any good he would have had the press on-side. Even the Sun backed him at the General Election.

The truth is that Starmer has been a useless hypocrite with appalling judgement. It’s good that the system allows for him to be given the boot. Burnham looks like he’ll be shit too. But that’s on Labour.

Come back Blair, all is forgiven!

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Jeez, it’s always the fault of the press with Labour. 🙄 Like the press didn’t hammer May or Johnson or Truss.

They also hounded ex lidbem leader Tim Farron out of his leadership, which is a travesty as he'd have been a million time better as leader than Ed Davey who is utterly anonymous and generally a waste of space.

Or Sunak. That press stuff was loved on here too. Labour can’t use the press as an excuse. Even the Labour MPs know that doesn’t wash for him and want him out.

I remember keir starmer watching Boris at the despatch box spouting rubbish.. Keir had his head in his hands in despair at the bollocks he was listening to... And had to respond to.

I think keir has done a good job and is an honourable man. Honourable being a scarce commodity these days in labour, and non existent in the tories..

Be careful what you wish for. If Burnham is the messiah, then God will raise your taxes upon though....

I am probably going to be wrong as I seem to be in a huge minority but I think Burnham will go more centrist, not more Left. He is a massive opportunist and started off as an arch Blairite. He wants to be Prime Minister. In order to be Prime Minister he needs to first win over the Labour Party so needs to go Left but in order to win a GE he needs to sort out welfare and immigration so will go more Right. Elections are won from the Centre, not from wherever Labours old Trots are.

No, I don’t want a new leader. There’s been too much instability.

Thing is the country is a total mess and there’s no money. No party is going to solve that in a couple of years nor some boy wonder saying he’s going to make everything better.

People are too polarised, too, so no matter what happens politically there will be a fuck ton of people who don’t agree with what’s going on and will put a spanner in the works necessitating yet another election.

I predict political instability for the foreseeable future and nothing really getting better (but most things getting a lot worse).

I certainly agree with your first statement - as for your second, I just don’t know yet…

He may have sold himself as steady and serious, and voters may have believed him. But he hasn’t got to the two-year mark yet, and all the time he’s been in office has been - to use the word he throws around about the Tories so much - chaos.

The simple truth is that Starmer is useless. Absolutely useless. He’s not just laughably bad, he’s a rank hypocrite to boot. And he’s a vindictive and unpleasant blame-thrower who chucks people under the bus at the sniff of a bad headline. Good riddance.

Whether Burnham’s any improvement we’ll have to see. My money’s on him being another dud.

Looking forward to PM Andy.

Sadly most Labour MP s are useless apart from Shabana .

Trump is now tweeting that Starmer is resigning.

It's a done deal

I think Starmer will go on to do very well He is an eminent human rights lawyer and well-respected on the international stage. He would be excellent on international matters concerning war crimes, etc. He will probably find more respect in this way - to his own party's shame and the country's detriment.

I think he’ll fade into obscurity. He has nothing worth selling.

I’d be amazed if even the Association of Windscreen Wiper Manufacturers were willing to book him as a speaker for their conference.

As Prime Minister, Starmer needed to win the respect of the British public. He performed far worse than anyone could imagine. His resignation will be no loss to the country.

We had all this with the Tories. All this backstabbing and infighting doesn’t exactly scream reliability. More like every man for himself.

Now it's the British public holding their heads in their hands in despair at the bollocks Starmer has been spouting. How the tables have turned in such a short space of time. It doesn't look like Starmer will survive even two years in office. Such a humiliation.

True. What goes around

How would Trump know anything?

Agree with this. She is responsible for the wrecking ball that has hit small businesses. The clue was the run up to the last budget, the shambles that was. Totally incompetent.

I think he’s as much to blame if not more for the budget. The PM sets the overall direction.

For the good of the country no change please.
Burnham will be terrible for the country.

I hope you are right.

Just an old mates network arranging jobs to suit themselves.
Lets have a General Election in late September or early October. Starmer let us down last time. He said he would Stop the boats and Smash the Gangs. He has not even published a policy.
He failed to provide the financial framework for Defence, we know Russia is attacking us by hacking. M&S British Library, taken over 2 years to fix it.
He wants to give The Chagos Islands away and give ££billions of our money as well.
Let us vote.