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Iran Is Now More Dangerous Than Ever

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MsAmerica · 18/06/2026 02:32

Iran Is Now More Dangerous Than Ever
After three months of war, Tehran feels it has little left to lose.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2026/06/11/iran-war-ceasefire-deterrence-trump-lebanon-israel/

Iran did not win the war, it won something more dangerous
The war didn’t collapse Iran. It cemented its control over Hormuz, rewired its alliances, and strengthened the very institutions the US targeted.
https://www.jpost.com/defense-and-tech/article-897084

Iran could emerge from the war stronger and more dangerous
https://www.ft.com/content/04f6c510-47a8-4e05-99d5-5372fceeb395?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Trump’s Iran deal is a national humiliation
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-trumps-iran-deal-is-a-national-humiliation/

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RedTagAlan · 18/06/2026 05:08

Seems to me that Trump has proven that previous folk who had decided that a war with Iran would be bad were right all along.

MsAmerica · 23/06/2026 01:50

RedTagAlan · 18/06/2026 05:08

Seems to me that Trump has proven that previous folk who had decided that a war with Iran would be bad were right all along.

Yes, as usual he was warned - and if he was actually a person who read, he could have seen a lot of newspaper articles warning him. But he thinks he's smarter than anyone else.

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Plasticdreams · 23/06/2026 04:57

Bibi was rubbing his hands in glee when Trump was sworn in for a second term. Only Trump would be so stupid.

survivingoutofspite · 23/06/2026 16:55

MsAmerica · 18/06/2026 02:32

Iran Is Now More Dangerous Than Ever
After three months of war, Tehran feels it has little left to lose.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2026/06/11/iran-war-ceasefire-deterrence-trump-lebanon-israel/

Iran did not win the war, it won something more dangerous
The war didn’t collapse Iran. It cemented its control over Hormuz, rewired its alliances, and strengthened the very institutions the US targeted.
https://www.jpost.com/defense-and-tech/article-897084

Iran could emerge from the war stronger and more dangerous
https://www.ft.com/content/04f6c510-47a8-4e05-99d5-5372fceeb395?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Trump’s Iran deal is a national humiliation
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-trumps-iran-deal-is-a-national-humiliation/

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MsAmerica · 24/06/2026 00:21

Plasticdreams · 23/06/2026 04:57

Bibi was rubbing his hands in glee when Trump was sworn in for a second term. Only Trump would be so stupid.

Yeah. So embarrassing to have such a gullible ignoramus as president.
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dwordle · 24/06/2026 13:27

MsAmerica · 18/06/2026 02:32

Iran Is Now More Dangerous Than Ever
After three months of war, Tehran feels it has little left to lose.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2026/06/11/iran-war-ceasefire-deterrence-trump-lebanon-israel/

Iran did not win the war, it won something more dangerous
The war didn’t collapse Iran. It cemented its control over Hormuz, rewired its alliances, and strengthened the very institutions the US targeted.
https://www.jpost.com/defense-and-tech/article-897084

Iran could emerge from the war stronger and more dangerous
https://www.ft.com/content/04f6c510-47a8-4e05-99d5-5372fceeb395?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Trump’s Iran deal is a national humiliation
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-trumps-iran-deal-is-a-national-humiliation/

Fact from my perspective Iran isn't dangerous at all. Having worked and travelled across the entire middle east I found little to be worried about.

You'll find most of our problems are thanks to foreign policy and Israel and America.

Should Iran have nuclear weapons, well considering the threat from America and Israel the answer is categorically yes. Israel has nuclear weapons and refuses inspections.... clearly in breach of the rules. So why shouldn't Iran.

If we continue to punish countries like Iran and fail to reign in Israel then I strongly believe Turkey and Pakistan will put a stop to Israel. The yanks are absolutely powerless to stop it.... Turkey would have tanks in Israel within 4 days and any risk of a nuclear response would be met by Pakistan in kind.

We can not accept terrorism from one country but punish a neighbour for it.

MsAmerica · 24/06/2026 23:13

dwordle · 24/06/2026 13:27

Fact from my perspective Iran isn't dangerous at all. Having worked and travelled across the entire middle east I found little to be worried about.

You'll find most of our problems are thanks to foreign policy and Israel and America.

Should Iran have nuclear weapons, well considering the threat from America and Israel the answer is categorically yes. Israel has nuclear weapons and refuses inspections.... clearly in breach of the rules. So why shouldn't Iran.

If we continue to punish countries like Iran and fail to reign in Israel then I strongly believe Turkey and Pakistan will put a stop to Israel. The yanks are absolutely powerless to stop it.... Turkey would have tanks in Israel within 4 days and any risk of a nuclear response would be met by Pakistan in kind.

We can not accept terrorism from one country but punish a neighbour for it.

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For me, I wouldn't say that a country that reportedly funds terrorists "isn't dangerous at all."

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ohdelay · Yesterday 12:36

The current media love in with Iran is confusing considering in February they were telling us that they had murdered 30,000 unarmed protestors and activists. Was this just bullshit or do they not remember what they said before.

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 12:40

ohdelay · Yesterday 12:36

The current media love in with Iran is confusing considering in February they were telling us that they had murdered 30,000 unarmed protestors and activists. Was this just bullshit or do they not remember what they said before.

What media love in ? The news I report what people say and what is going on. I have not seen any love in with Iran.

ohdelay · Yesterday 12:45

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 12:40

What media love in ? The news I report what people say and what is going on. I have not seen any love in with Iran.

The protests supporting them in the UK, the generally positive and what plucky underdogs aren't they doing well tone in the papers. Why the positivity when a few months ago they were just genocidal murderers?

ohdelay · Yesterday 12:48

Also see @dwordle "Iran isn't dangerous ..." post above. What gives?

Plasticdreams · Yesterday 12:50

MsAmerica · 24/06/2026 23:13

For me, I wouldn't say that a country that reportedly funds terrorists "isn't dangerous at all."

We are supplying Israel with weapons to commit a genocide. Israel has been proven to be deliberately targeting children and has killed over 21,000 children since October 7th 2023. Is that not terrorism?

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 12:53

ohdelay · Yesterday 12:45

The protests supporting them in the UK, the generally positive and what plucky underdogs aren't they doing well tone in the papers. Why the positivity when a few months ago they were just genocidal murderers?

Protests are not a media love in. Protests are not the media. And I have seen no news describing Iran as plucky underdogs.
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It is Trump who appears to have dropped supporting the protestors, and regime change. In fact, in his speech to the G7 last week, it was Trump who was saying Iran needs money to re-arm.

dairydebris · Yesterday 12:59

dwordle · 24/06/2026 13:27

Fact from my perspective Iran isn't dangerous at all. Having worked and travelled across the entire middle east I found little to be worried about.

You'll find most of our problems are thanks to foreign policy and Israel and America.

Should Iran have nuclear weapons, well considering the threat from America and Israel the answer is categorically yes. Israel has nuclear weapons and refuses inspections.... clearly in breach of the rules. So why shouldn't Iran.

If we continue to punish countries like Iran and fail to reign in Israel then I strongly believe Turkey and Pakistan will put a stop to Israel. The yanks are absolutely powerless to stop it.... Turkey would have tanks in Israel within 4 days and any risk of a nuclear response would be met by Pakistan in kind.

We can not accept terrorism from one country but punish a neighbour for it.

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You think Iran should have nuclear weapons? Just because America and Israel do? Do you stand by that?

PermanentTemporary · Yesterday 13:06

It’s interesting to me that there were so many ‘Iran hawks’ around, both in the Houses and around the Presidency, for many years. I do get it, because the Iran regime is horrific, but I remember a junior Foreign Office civil servant saying to me that war with Iran would be a terrible idea a very long time ago. And so it has proved, predictably. The regime has a new lease of life in all sorts of forms.

HopefulYankee · Yesterday 13:07

MsAmerica · 24/06/2026 23:13

For me, I wouldn't say that a country that reportedly funds terrorists "isn't dangerous at all."

Iran funds the Hizbollah, Hamas and Ansar Allah in Yemen. None of these groups have ever done anything to terrorise the West. 9/11 was committed by Al Qaeda, Sunni terrorists, one of whom is now an ally to the West and in charge of Syria. I think if you want to accuse Iran of funding terrorists then you should take a hard look at what our governments have been funding and supporting. It’s quite hypocritical to accuse Iran of something that we are doing ourselves.

HopefulYankee · Yesterday 13:11

dairydebris · Yesterday 12:59

You think Iran should have nuclear weapons? Just because America and Israel do? Do you stand by that?

Well the cat is out of the bag now. Israel has them, Pakistan has them, rumour has it Saudi Arabia has them. I think if anything this war has proven that you are not safe from military attack unless you have nukes. (See North Korea)

dairydebris · Yesterday 13:12

HopefulYankee · Yesterday 13:11

Well the cat is out of the bag now. Israel has them, Pakistan has them, rumour has it Saudi Arabia has them. I think if anything this war has proven that you are not safe from military attack unless you have nukes. (See North Korea)

I don't like your post but I do agree with it.

ohdelay · Yesterday 16:36

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 12:53

Protests are not a media love in. Protests are not the media. And I have seen no news describing Iran as plucky underdogs.
d
It is Trump who appears to have dropped supporting the protestors, and regime change. In fact, in his speech to the G7 last week, it was Trump who was saying Iran needs money to re-arm.

Are you being deliberately disingenuous? The media have stopped mentioning the massacre from earlier this year, which they had earlier said resulted in 30k+ people being murdered. Significantly more people than Tiananmen Square, which still gets mentioned today. Not a love in then, but more mass amnesia. How come?

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:50

ohdelay · Yesterday 16:36

Are you being deliberately disingenuous? The media have stopped mentioning the massacre from earlier this year, which they had earlier said resulted in 30k+ people being murdered. Significantly more people than Tiananmen Square, which still gets mentioned today. Not a love in then, but more mass amnesia. How come?

I daresay if Trump had not started this war then more would be reported about the protests. Iran did cut their internet.

The protests will likely be on the news come the anniversary.

ohdelay · Yesterday 16:58

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:50

I daresay if Trump had not started this war then more would be reported about the protests. Iran did cut their internet.

The protests will likely be on the news come the anniversary.

I said massacre you said protest and somehow talk about Trump. Strange. I want to know why there has been no mention of the Iranian massacres recently. Were the numbers bullshit and we're meant to just forget or why? Nothing to do with the war, just this particular anomaly.

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 17:05

ohdelay · Yesterday 16:58

I said massacre you said protest and somehow talk about Trump. Strange. I want to know why there has been no mention of the Iranian massacres recently. Were the numbers bullshit and we're meant to just forget or why? Nothing to do with the war, just this particular anomaly.

Well the war did take over the news. The internet was cut, and Iran was at war. That has a massive impact on getting information and stories out.

Re Tiananmen square. The vast majority of the news about that on the anniversary is about how the CCP does its crackdowns. For example, the last few years the news has been about the candle ban in HK. In fact, the anniversary of that was just a few weeks ago, and again, news was swamped out by the Iran war.

dwordle · Yesterday 17:50

MsAmerica · 24/06/2026 23:13

For me, I wouldn't say that a country that reportedly funds terrorists "isn't dangerous at all."

Interesting considering it was America that was responsible for largely arming the IRA.

I oppose all violence but the silly games governments play lets us fund one side and call it freedom fighters but then call the other terrorists.

It's time for it all to stop

MsAmerica · Yesterday 21:27

Plasticdreams · Yesterday 12:50

We are supplying Israel with weapons to commit a genocide. Israel has been proven to be deliberately targeting children and has killed over 21,000 children since October 7th 2023. Is that not terrorism?

Are you conveniently ignoring the fact that the Palestinians have a long history of targeting civilians? I'm not condoning Israel's viciousness, but I wonder if people are aware that, to a certain extent, the Palestinians had it coming to them. They elected terrorists to govern, they funneled money into attacking Israel instead of taking care of their own people, they supported "martyrdom," they openly wished to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. I admit I haven't been following closely, but so far I've heard no Palestinians admit that they triggered this whole disaster.

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MsAmerica · Yesterday 21:29

dairydebris · Yesterday 12:59

You think Iran should have nuclear weapons? Just because America and Israel do? Do you stand by that?

I don't think Iran "should" have nuclear weapons. I doubt any of us believe that. But in terms of logic...

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