If you’re gender critical…

[CurlewKate]

…is that the most important point for you when you’re deciding who to vote for? More important than the NHS, the economy, foreign policy? If you’re a Labour voter, would you actively have a Reform government because Reform are gender critical?

Reform aren't gender critical, they just hate trans people more than they hate women.
If there actually was a gender critical party, I might consider voting for them, or if my potential MP was gender critical (and, say, Tory) then I might consider it.

I'm GC but will vote Labour, as I always have. Reform for me is obviously a rocky horror shit show and they'd have to hold a gun to my head to vote Tory. Anyone who thinks the Tories will be "good for women" needs to read the not very distant history books.

I'm gender critical but would never vote Reform. Tories are the only party that knows what a woman is.

It is so depressing.

I am a left-wing GC feminist and will be voting reform.

Labour (traditionally my party) are not for realists or working people. They're now the party of hypocrites IMO, and represent people in Brighton, London and Edinburgh who are not impacted by the real life consequences of immigration and the trans movement. People who "support the NHS" but go private when waitlists are too long, people who "hate the nasty party" but are next in line for a juicy inheritance, people who "deplore rhe housing crisis" but got a huge deposit from mum and dad.

It pisses me off that this is the case, the whole idea should never have been entertained.

Totally this! The suggestion that humans can change sex or that men who say they are women should be given access to female spaces should have been laid to rest right at the start with a resounding, "You're just being silly." And yet here we are.

No not the most important, but one of the more important.
I wouldn’t vote for a party that insist TWAW and fail to say they support women’s rights, which rules out labour, green, Lib Dem and Plaid Cymru for me in Wales.
Unless one of the above sort themselves out for the next GE I will probably vote conservative

It's really difficult.

The issues I care deeply about include women's rights but also drug policy, the environment, community, Palestine. Other issues too but the issues mentioned are particularly polarising and all often willfully misreported on by biased media (left wing or right wing depending on the issue).

I am a socialist but currently no one party represents all my views.

In a general election I would vote to keep Reform out. But if you're going to criticise women for caring about women's rights you might as well criticise the Green party for taking votes from Labour.

No.

I'm thoroughly GC but find it incomprehensible that people can have such tunnel vision about it that they're willing to overlook the climate crisis, the economy and the NHS just to name a few.

What people seem to forget is that these things affect women too. Or are we all going to be celebrating the bright new dawn of spiralling inequality making far more women unable to afford rent and being made homeless, with all the vulnerabilities that entails, more girls having their prospects limited by underfunded state schools, and private health insurance where large numbers of women (as in the USA) can't afford basic hospital care? Because all that will be worth it to not have to see transwomen in public toilets! Yay!

I'd go so far as to say that many GC women have become about gender like Reform voters are about immigration. It's acquired such a totemic significance as a marker of how the government has betrayed them, that they can't step back and actually think through, in a measured way, the likely ramifications of not fully getting their way in it along with the likely ramifications of all those other issues. Any suggestion of specific-issue compromise in the name of big picture thinking is met with shutting down.

This.

@overunderover I'm thoroughly GC but find it incomprehensible that people can have such tunnel vision about it that they're willing to overlook the climate crisis, the economy and the NHS just to name a few.

I care about all those other things too, but there is no easy answer to them and they are not simple to fix. People disagree on how best to help improve the economy for instance, and while my main longterm concern is for the climate, frankly I don't see how any UK party can stop global disaster.

But women's rights to single-sex provision is a straightforward yes or no, and I know which one is the right answer. Plus, it has wider repercussions, as if a party or candidate does not support this, I do not trust they have women's best interests at heart; and if they say trans women are women, I think they are out and out liars.

We can’t do anything without a healthy economy.

Any leader who devoted parliamentary time to facilitating gender ideology rather than strengthening our economy in the current post Brexit , war-ridden, energy- crisis world would not get my vote.

I would prioritise the economy, NHS, building constructive relationships with Europe, etc.

And lobby furiously and energetically to defend women’s sex based rights.

Would never in a million years vote Reform or withhold a vote that would tactically keep them out.

The quality of life and future as a woman (or man, or Trans identified person) would be dismal under Reform.

@Manchegomango
I totally agree with you. Wealthy liberals are so hypocritical! They stick to their ideals without considering how that affects ordinary people.

@InconvenientlyMaterial When you say your are pro-palestine, you do realise that Hamas are anti-women's rights?

@CurlewKate
I am GC but this would not be the main reason I would vote for a party. However, it is part of my reason why I don't understand left-wing views anymore. The whole pro-palestine and trans rights seem to go against women's rights.

Reform are not reliably gender critical. Did you not see Farage's shitshow over prisons last year?

One issue voters would be better off going with the Communists if standing, which they dont usually, or failing that either the Workers Party or the Tories for as long as Kemi is in charge. I'm not suggesting anyone should do any of those things, merely that those are the gender critical options.

It's really high up on the list for me but, right now, the greater need is keeping reform out. I am expecting to have to tactically vote Conservative to keep reform out in my constituency, which will grieve me greatly.

I am probably more green or lib dem leaning but neither have a hope in hell in my area and there's no way I will vote for Zach P and his weasel words

Because all that will be worth it to not have to see transwomen in public toilets! Yay!
It's more than "I just want to pee". For instance, why are you lauding an NHS that thinks male bodies are women, and therefore enable men onto "single sex" wards where they commit rape. Ditto the prison service? Etc, etc.
Is that the world you want for your daughters - no safe spaces?

It's an existential question and we would be daft to give up just when they are finally starting to listen to us.

Reform are not gender critical, sex realist perhaps but not gender critical. I'm a(nother) politically homeless leftie right now and have no idea how I would vote if a GE were called.

It's not a deciding vote for me. I think things are somewhat moving in the right direction as people start to actually think about things instead of just repeating a mantra because it's the in thing to do to be liked. Hopefully it will be less of an issue in the future.

I'm gender critical, but that doesn't decide how I am going to vote.

I genuinely don't see any benefit from a party that knows what a woman is but wants to remove their rights in any case.

I wouldn't vote Reform if my life depended on it (and who knows what'll happen in the future, it might if they get their hands on the NHS).

Everyone, should be aware of what Reform are and what they stand for.

@Hotupnorth Reform's manifesto says that they plan to protect the NHS.
The question is whether it is worth protecting.
Maybe we should be looking to other countries for systems, which offer better healthcare outcomes for a similar cost with equal access e.g. Denmark and Australia. The Danish system is similar to ours, costs roughly the same per person but has better outcomes. Australia has better outcomes and costs the same per person
People in Canada, France and Japan pay roughly 10% more per person and have better outcomes.

Reform say a lot of things and I thoroughly distrust them.

The health care systems you've mentioned are great unless you have or contract a chronic illness or long term or permanent condition. Like travel insurance, if you have one of these then your premiums or co-pay bills go through the roof.

They are probably lying about a lot of things, not just the reality of sex. Call me cynical.

I am GC but i won’t vote Labour again as they are shit and piss my tax up the wall.

I won’t vote for Reform either.

No idea who i will vote for. Assisted dying is up there for me but i think Kemi voted against that. So no idea.

@Hotupnorth
I accept that the NHS has the most absolute protection for long-term health conditions in terms of covering long-term medication. However, google AI suggests that people with a long-term illness in the UK are at higher risk of poverty compared to all these other countries because other support/benefits kick in if you have a long-term illness.
NHS outcomes are so bad compared to other countries that it doesn't make that much sense to be so attached to it.