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If you’re gender critical…

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CurlewKate · 20/05/2026 19:09

…is that the most important point for you when you’re deciding who to vote for? More important than the NHS, the economy, foreign policy? If you’re a Labour voter, would you actively have a Reform government because Reform are gender critical?

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RobinEllacotStrike · 20/05/2026 21:33

I also won’t not vote.

I find it very depressing that age 58 I’m facing voting for the least worse option for the rest of my voting life. I can’t imagine being excited or even interested in a political party at all now.

I can’t understand why people feel
so connected with today’s political parties that they would support or join one.

AppleKatie · 20/05/2026 21:55

shuggles · 20/05/2026 20:54

Reform wants tougher controls on who comes into this country, and they want to restore British values and reduce crime so that it might actually be safe to walk through the UK's cities again. Why is that not a good outcome for women?

Because “tougher controls” and “British values” are slogans, not a women’s safety strategy.
Women are not unsafe in cities because Britain has been insufficiently nostalgic. We are unsafe because male violence is still treated as background noise. Most violence against women is committed by men known to them: partners, ex-partners, relatives, colleagues, acquaintances. A serious women’s safety policy would start there, with domestic abuse, rape charging rates, stalking, prostitution, porn culture, violent men, safeguarding, single-sex services, and proper policing.
I have no issue with sensible border controls. Every country has a right to decide who enters, and women should not be expected to ignore safeguarding concerns because the left finds the subject uncomfortable. But Reform’s framing makes me very wary because it turns women’s safety into a culture-war prop: dangerous men are “over there”, while British men are implicitly civilised and safe. That is nonsense. Plenty of women have been raped, beaten, stalked and murdered by men with British passports.
And frankly, I do not trust Nigel Farage or Reform to be the great defenders of women. Farage has previously suggested that women with children are worth less to employers, and told women not to be “ostentatious” about breastfeeding. That is not feminism. That is old-fashioned, patronising sexism in a shiny populist wrapper.
Nor am I reassured by a party that wants to weaken or leave key human rights frameworks. Women rely on human rights protections too, against the state, against institutions that fail us, and against policies that treat vulnerable people as disposable. The Human Rights Act and ECHR are not just “for foreigners”. They protect British women, rape victims, domestic abuse victims, children, disabled women, lesbians, whistleblowers, prisoners, patients and families. You do not make women safer by ripping up rights and hoping the state will behave nicely afterwards.
“Restore British values” also needs unpacking. Which values? Women’s equality? Free speech? Secular law? Single-sex protections? Or a vague socially conservative fantasy in which women are expected to be grateful for male protection while our actual rights and services are ignored?
A good outcome for women would be fewer violent men walking free, properly funded refuges, police taking stalking seriously, rape cases prosecuted, sex-based spaces protected, schools being honest about safeguarding, and immigration/asylum systems that do not import or excuse misogynistic practices.
If Reform has serious, evidence-based policies on all that, fine, let’s scrutinise them. But “less immigration + British values = women safe” is far too simplistic, especially when the people saying it have a record of casual misogyny and hostility to human rights. Women should not be used as a decorative excuse for a political project that may not actually prioritise us at all.

Zapx · 20/05/2026 21:59

I would not say it was the “most important thing” but I do think that anyone who parrots TWAW and actually appears to believe it must just be really really thick, and therefore I could never vote for them…

lifeturnsonadime · 20/05/2026 22:01

What do you actually want women to do?

Labour have let women down. My local MP has posted this very week that she believes that TWAW. Today our local small town TW has been encouraged to act out his personal fetish without fear of recrimination.

If women have had enough of this shit don't blame them for casting their vote elsewhere, instead challenge your own party for failing women so spectacularly in the first place.

StuntNun · 20/05/2026 22:06

I’m not white so I would have to be a moron to vote for Reform. They will ship me off to Rwanda as soon as they’ve got rid of the illegal immigrants and then the legal immigrants. Like many GC women, I’m politically homeless.

BoeotianNightmare · 20/05/2026 22:08

I'm GC, very passionately so. I'm left wing and climate is the most important issue for me. I've therefore voted for parties that disregard women's sex based rights (which is to say all the left wing parties), but I have absolutely zero enthusiasm for any of them any more as they've jumped on the bandwagon of gender ideology without a care for the impact on women and children. I would never vote Tory or Reform. Their policies are dreadful (including for women) and the idea of Reform winning is horrific. Lots of Tories were pro self ID anyway so it'd be pointless voting for them even if I liked them in any other way which I don't.

NotMyRealAccount · 20/05/2026 22:08

While gender ideology remains embedded in our society I shall be a single issue voter, and that issue is the recognition and protection of actual women. I was instinctively Labour until the last election, but now I look at the Labour party and think, "I never knew what you were."

Nigel Farage has indicated that he isn't opposed to the infiltration of women's spaces by trans identified males, and I have no reason to believe that Reform would be a safe option in power. The only circumstance in which I'd vote Reform would be if I had a local candidate who was explicitly GC.

BotterMon · 20/05/2026 22:12

GC but would never vote Reform. Labour have been useless so not sure who I'll vote for. Maybe go back to being a Tory!

FKAT · 20/05/2026 22:26

Lots of logical fallacies in that OP.

As a PP has explained, Reform aren't gender critical.

And I also sense a bit of a false dichotomy. On one hand, we are gender critical, but on the other hand the foreign, NHS and economic policies of non-GC parties are so successful they give us other compelling reasons to vote for them?

MNers on here were told that in 2024 we should 'hold our nose' and vote Labour and their positive impact on the nation's health, wealth and international standing will compensate for their TWAW ideology - and anyway once they are in power they will listen to sensible GC women and apply the EA 2010 anyway.

If Labour had brought us the economic growth and NHS leadership they promised, it might be more of a compelling argument. As a left wing GC feminist who would never vote Reform, I'm not really seeing the dilemma.

Lougle · 20/05/2026 22:29

CurlewKate · 20/05/2026 19:09

…is that the most important point for you when you’re deciding who to vote for? More important than the NHS, the economy, foreign policy? If you’re a Labour voter, would you actively have a Reform government because Reform are gender critical?

No, it's everything as a whole. But if a politician is willing to openly lie about an observable fact that has been ruled as such in the Supreme Court in order to appease a vocal minority, it does make me wonder what else they are lying about, or willing to lie about, in order to get votes (Looking at you, Nick Clegg...)

halfpastten · 20/05/2026 22:33

Reform are not gender critical. Kemi is. She will get my vote.

AppleKatie · 21/05/2026 09:50

Saw this just now and thought of this thread

If you’re gender critical…
TheDogsNewHair · 21/05/2026 10:11

Gender ideology is really dangerous for everyone, but especially for women, children and those who are autistic. It’s an important issue to me and will impact my vote. It pisses me off that this is the case, the whole idea should never have been entertained. Biology and DNA are fact, we split things like toilets, prisons, sports etc based on sex, for fairness, dignity and privacy and that should not be up for discussion, ever!

soddingspiderseason · 21/05/2026 10:13

Will never vote Reform. My GC views don’t make me want to align with people who talk about melting black people down to fill potholes or using Nazi symbolism. I struggle with who to vote for though.

Upstartled · 21/05/2026 10:25

Reform are not the only party to believe that women are a sex class. I think the Conservatives, under Kemi Badenoch, have been strong on this.

RareGoalsVerge · 21/05/2026 10:31

I'm GC and I'd rather spoil my ballot than vote Reform or any other right-wing party.

My Labour MP has been very on-the-fence on the question of trans and women's rights neither committing to or rejecting either side. I suspect that she's secretly GC but without the moral fibre to stand up for what's right in case that damages her political future.

I tend to research the minor parties and independent candidates who don't have a hope of ever winning, and vote for whichever one of those has views closest to my own.

Also, there's a different between being Gender Critical and being a Sexist Bastard. Reform are Sexist Bastards - they know what a woman is specifically and biologically defined and they want men to have free rein to discriminate against, exploit and abuse women as sub-humans. Gender Critical is not just about upholding that peole with male and female bodies remain male and female according to their DNA regardless of any gender feelings an individual may have, it's also about upholding equality and fairness for all individuals and full human rights for all, being clear that the reason that accommodations for people with female bodies are reserved only for people with female bodies is not about a lack of inclusivity but because the existence of such accommodations is solely about equalising a disadvantage that exists only for people with female bodies and does not exist for for people with male bodies but feminine genderfeels. Reform are nowhere near to holding this view.

Ciri · 21/05/2026 10:31

It's an issue I take into account but not top priority.

I would never in a million years vote Reform. I'm most likely to vote conservative since my views are centrist but whilst in many ways I would align with the lib dems, their position on gender is an issue for me.

Livpool · 21/05/2026 10:37

mintirn · 20/05/2026 19:15

I would describe myself as left wing, a Marxist even but I am also Gender critical. Women's rights and safety is important to me as I consider that a progressive issue and am baffled why so many on the left think allowing males with dubious motivations destroy women's hard won rights is a positive thing. It does make choosing who to vote for really difficult. I would not vote reform or tory under any circumstances.

This is me! I don’t understand how ‘the left’ decided men who wear dresses are more important than actual women

FrayaMorstater · 21/05/2026 10:48

Imaginingdragonsagain · 20/05/2026 20:53

Firmly gender critical but would not vote for Reform.

This is the way I feel. Politically homeless.

BlakeCarrington · 21/05/2026 10:54

I’m undecided who I will vote for, but I know full well who I will not support - any politician who believes TWAW. Never ever.

patooties · 21/05/2026 10:56

No - none of them bar Reform and that weird Rupert Lowe party are GC.

i have to accept that our politicians have been captured and look at the rest of what they say / do.

oldwhyno · 21/05/2026 10:58

None of the major parties are realistically going to do anything groundbreaking with the NHS, the economy or foreign policy. It'll be relatively minor tweaks.

A party's position on women's rights can, within a short space of time, have a massive impact on people. So yes, it's a primary consideration.

Upstartled · 21/05/2026 10:59

Livpool · 21/05/2026 10:37

This is me! I don’t understand how ‘the left’ decided men who wear dresses are more important than actual women

Because the left in academia gave up on class analysis and dissolved into identity politics. It filled journals with new content with a firm nod the favoured French post modernists.

And then we have had two generations of uni students on pathways to middle management, human resources, unions and politics fed through the system spewing out twaw to earn their left stripes and place within the establishment.

TheresAsilverLiningInTheSkyee · 21/05/2026 11:21

This was a real struggle for me living in Scotland, at the recent Scottish Parliament elections.

I voted LibDem for decades but stopped when they went into coalition with Cameron's Tories and have since voted SNP. The SNP however, now have a diabolical record on putting trans women above actual women and for the first time ever I considered not voting at all, as all the centre/left of centre parties that I could possibly support are all pro increasing trans rights. I had spent my DDs childhoods lecturing them on the importance of women voting and felt because of this, not voting wasn't an option for me.

I decided to write a balance sheet of the pros and cons of the SNP. I considered among other things - the free university education both my DDs benefitted from, free prescriptions, free bus travel for over 60s, free dental check ups and eye tests. These are all things the SNP are responsible for and which I heartily approve of. Against this was their pro trans agenda. I decided that however gender critical my views are, that I was prepared, on balance to continue to support a party that had brought in some genuinely progressive polices.

So yes the bigger picture politically outweighed my gender critical beliefs. I think to vote purely on a party's trans rights views would be very blinkered. In the UK that would leave you only really able to vote for Reform (possibly the Tories) and hell will freeze over before I'd be doing that!

C8H10N4O2 · 21/05/2026 11:47

CurlewKate · 20/05/2026 20:03

Not intending to post scares. I’m gender critical-BUT it would not be the absolute top of my list of reasons to vote. If I understand correctly, the only party that is gender critical/sex realist is Reform. And I can’t vote for them. So I have to vote Labour, despite their views on gender. There is no other choice. I worry that some women will give priority to their views on gender issues.

When will it be time to centre the 50%?

I feel that for my entire adult life I’ve been hearing “in the fullness of time” when it comes to women’s issues, especially from the Left Bros and Labour alone consistently fails to elect women for the top positions.

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