This post nails it about left wing voters on Mumsnet over the last two days

[ProudAmberTurtle]

It's by an ex-academic on X, about posts on Reddit over the last 48 hours but is equally applicable to Mumsnet, where I can seeing posts stating things like:

"How stupid are Reform voters? Don't they realise they'll get fewer benefits?!"

The irony is of course that it's those posters who need to be educated, not the working class voters they mock because they think they're thick.

Here you go:

Reading through Reddit threads in which leftists/progressives express their bewilderment/confusion/fury at working class English voters for casting their lot in with Reform, one of the things I'm starting to understand is this:

They simply do not understand how a government could help working-class people in any other way besides giving them benefits, handouts, and other free things.

Their entire mental architecture is premised upon the premises that

1. Working class people are poor
2. The only way for them to not be poor is for the state to give them free stuff
3. So left-wing parties need to promise them lots of free stuff

Then, when these working-class voters instead vote for right-of-centre parties who instead promise an economy in which they can build a career, start their own business, make a financial success of themselves and start a family, they're confused.

Because, again, in their mental architecture, what the working class are supposed to want is free benefits from the state.

But what they actually want is a fair shake at making their own way in the world, making money, getting on in life.

And the left simply doesn't understand that what these voters want from the state is an economy in which they can actually do this.

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Yes, net migration is falling but that's mainly due to so many talented Brits leaving the UK. Also the numbers are cumulative. So you still have large numbers of people added to our population at a time when we have almost a million NEETS, rising unemployment and pressure on all our public services.

Ah, the Greens who've forgotten their credentials of saving the environment and now focus on Gaza. And this is in the locals..🙄 . Mothin Ali from Harehills and Gipton screaming "Alluh Akbar" and "this is for Gaza" after last years locals. Think he'd forgotten where he was for a minute or two. Baggy somebody elected in Bolton who hires Lamborghinis to show off at weddings also elected as a Green. Crazy weirdos dancing like lunatics with gyrating gay men. Strangely, Mothin was nowhere to be seen. I wonder why? The Greens are now ridiculous and please tell me, WTF has Gaza got to do with us? Why are idiots voting for Gaza in the locals?

That's bollocks

Pp is on a wind-up across a few threads. Either that or their brain is broken...under-use, over-use? For whatever reason it's wombling free. ( though not necessarily making good use of the things that it finds)

"It's by an ex-academic on X, about posts on Reddit over the last 48 hours but is equally applicable to Mumsnet"

This is the only accurate statement in your opening post, and I fully agree with you that a lot of the ignorance, intolerance, and imbecility on Reddit is indeed "equally applicable to Mumsnet"

Farage still thinks Thatcher did the right thing getting rid of all the mines. How exactly did that help the working class.

Being against min wage how is that helping the working class.

So would a working class person want to pay more NI themselves or the employer foot the bill.

Is privatizing (its S not Z) the NHS for the working class, Give him 10 years he will be all over it.

The reality is he has persuaded the working class that people on boats are the source of all their problems. Stop those and hey will be better off in every way. They really are not interested in any of his other policies. The exception being tin pot companies who are used to paying virtually no tax and expect to be on 50k plus while their few workers slog away for a pittance propping up their lifestyle

BTW nobody goes to pubs anymore form gen Z that's why pubs are closing and takeaways and off licenses are not. Somehow they can afford the 'tax rises'

It's not really as difficult as all that. Most working people I know are either tradies or very small businesses. They would like the government to take the hefty over-regulating foot off their necks. They want to be able to go out and get work, do work and be paid for it, and taxed accordingly. They do not want to fund the waster next door who has never set the alarm clock to get up for work. If the paperwork burden clicks in once their turnover passes £85k, they will ask their customers to buy the kit themselves and just charge to fit it. My plumber did not want to add 10 hours a week admin to stay compliant as he couldn't charge anyone for doing it, and he wasn't convinced public services would improve if he did.

And Egypt borrowed its irrigation from the Persian empire, that straddled the Tigris and Euphrates. Most of the Middle East's rural areas are still using the falaj networks to grow crops, and the rules of using them have not changed in 10,000 years either.

Super quick search online and the UK spend on Asylum in 2024 UK was 5.3 billion. Welfare cost over same time was 313 billion.

And they are different pots. The Home Office pay for Asylum seekers. And much of that 5.3 billion is redirected from the overseas aid budget. 2.8 billion of that was taken from the overseas aid budget. It is not the Home Office paying a disabled persons benefits.

UN rules allow that apparently. For the first 12 months of any asylum claims anyway. Source for last bit:

Is the UK really spending £2.2bn of foreign aid budget on asylum hotels? (inews.co.uk)

Not the same "bucket of cash".

It's not really as difficult as all that.
What about my post did you find difficult?

I agree about over-regulation of small businesses. The new rules about submitting accounts are ludicrous.