Anyone else feeling politically homeless and disillusioned with UK politics?

[Twister11]

Is anyone else finding the current political situation in the UK quite depressing? I used to be an active Labour supporter and I was very keen on the idea of a Labour government. But the last two years have completely taken away all my enthusiasm. The latest scandal with Keir Starmer in the Commons today is absolutely the last straw for me. I know no party or government is without its flaws but this feels beyond the pale. I don’t know how to vote in the locals. I guess maybe green although I don’t like the local candidates or some of their positions. Just feel politically homeless and disillusioned and a little scared for the future because nobody seems to be able to run the country in a decent way. Thanks for reading my vent if you’ve got this far.

I understand, but how can you vote Green? They are a bunch of loons. A haven for all the antisemites and cranks who were kicked out of the Labour Party.

Not UK politics, the politics running the world. What we are seeing is untamed power running rampant across the globe. This is happening at a time when we can least afford it.

Our planet is being destroyed, I say that because I believe it to be the case. I'm not a extreme eco zeolite but a person who is witnessing the natural being destroyed at a rate I've not witnessed in 50 years. Most people have good intentions but we are being locked into this never ending cycle of greed and corruption.

People need to wake up, we must come together and put aside our differences and end these endless wars, the destruction of our natural world and help end poverty.

If things don't improve soon then I'm afraid the future for my grandchildren is very uncertain

I don't understand the term antisemites, it appears anyone who's says a negative word against Israel is now an anti Semite.

Voting Green, are a hell of a lot better than reform.

Then you've never met a Jewish person or an Israeli, or possibly even a person with basic levels of intelligence. Try doing some research before posting. Its quite simple.
https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

I have no idea what to vote.
Apparently where I live the Greens stand a chance of winning the local elections, but I can’t vote for a party that doesn’t believe we need to invest in defence, that wants to decriminalise drugs and have uncontrolled immigration. I like the idea of a focus on environmentalism and social justice but the rest of it just sounds nuts.
I voted Labour last time, but the business battering budget made me regret that pretty quickly. It is clear Labour have no idea how to help the economy grow and have no intention of tackling the spiralling welfare system. I don’t believe they deserve my vote a second time.
I’ve voted LibDem in the past too but it just feels like a wasted vote.
The Conservatives made such a mess of things when they were in power and I have not forgotten or forgiven them. I was furious they held a referendum at all (I was fiercely anti Brexit) and was appalled by the Boris Johnson show. Don’t even get me started on Liz Truss’s budget. Nope. I’m not voting Conservative.
So that leaves Reform, but I’ve not forgiven Nigel Farage for Brexit. Also, I can’t abide Reform’s simplistic blaming of immigrants/foreigners for all our troubles and suspect they are pie in the sky, snake oil merchants. However, I like the sound of lower taxes, smaller state, increased defence, free speech and cutting Government waste. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m beginning to wonder if they’re the best of a bad bunch, perhaps?

Independent?

I don't understand politically homeless. No political party offers a "home". I understand Tribal politics better, but I think that's a different thing.🤔

Do you not vote for the best/least worst option at the time?

This. "Green" no longer indicates environmental, now it indicates toxic waste.

But I understand your feeling of despair. I feel the same. Every party without exception has let us down. The tories with Truss (😡) and Boris, Labour with the blatant lying and the spiteful pointless policies, various parties with their spineless trans agendas. I can't remember ever feeling the House of Commons was this much of a cesspit of self interest.
Obviously there are some MPs with integrity and decency but they are in the minority.

At the May elections, I'll vote for the local Councillor who has actually put some effort in. Who turns up to parish council meetings when it isn't obligatory, and who responds when emailed about local issues.
I can't vote Labour, they need to understand the country's disgust with them, but as to choice of Tory / Lib Dem / Independent, I'll vote for the person who has put in the hours and the effort locally over the last two years.

I'm pretty sure I've met plenty of Jewish people but I don't pay much attention to peoples religion, because from my perspective it doesn't matter.

I'm no religious expert but I don't think there's a religion on the planet that says killing, war, ethnic cleansing, environmental destruction is something to celebrate. So in that case I can't connect Judaism to the Israeli government....just the same as I can't connect Trumps version of Christianity with his foreign and domestic policy.

Jewish people have shared that part of the world with other religions way before the creation of the state of Israel. Just the same way as Jewish people live all over the world and share the same air and space with everyone else.

What I'm seeing right now is pure evil. There's no religion there at all. Netanyahu and his goons are the devil incarnate and have arrest warrants for war crimes. They risk all our safety and are courting world war three.....these people can no longer travel in the air space of Spain, Turkey, Belgium, France..... there's a reason for that....I'm not making it up and it's not because they are Jewish....it's because of what they have done.

So I'm not an anti Semite for stating bold facts..... criminals should face the courts for a fair trial.

Their leader is Jewish

Surely if you are discounting conservative because of Brexit it's lunacy to vote for the party that agitated and campaigned for it albeit under a different name. It's the same people, the same policies and they are aiming to push us into a no deal position.

Their leader is also a political opportunist who will court votes from anywhere and once sold women hypnotherapy to increase their breast size, under a previous name.

They seem to me to be a hotch potch bunch of misfits who don't just don't fit into any of the other parties.

They campaigned in Gorton and Denton with leaflets showing a picture of Starmer shaking hands with the Indian Prime Minister on an official visit to India to negotiate trade because they know their Pakhistani voters tend to dislike India. That would suggest to me that they would damage the UKs interests to gain votes, not because they believe that negotiating with India is wrong.

They produced leaflets and videos in Urdu and Bangla which the majorityy of people in the constituency could not understand and gave no translation into the UK's principle official language. That's frankly outrageous.

They have a group of their own female members in dispute with them over women's rights.

The fact that none of the other parties are offering anything attractive to vote for, and that they are making unfounded promises that will be impossible to deliver, are the only explanation that I can find for voting for this very strange bunch of people.

And?

Yep Labour are extremely disappointing, not because of Mandelson, personally think its just being used to attack Labour/Starmer with... it doesn't affect our lives one bit but the media attention would suggest its the End of Days...

Politicians lie, they mislead... who knew!!!

Unemployment down quite a bit, hardly mentioned.... instead its about DV and Olly Robbins, 2 things 99% of the population had never heard of a few weeks ago.

My issue is the failure to address manifesto promises, Dentistry, Roads, Energy pricing, Defence, NHS, Social Care.

There is just dither and delay, i never expected much change after 18months but there is no plan, no vision.

I listen to Labour ministers and i may as well be listening to a Tory minister from the last Govt.

All parties are struggling around the 20% mark of support, so we are all pissed off and it will get worse, the next Govt may well be voted in on 20% support, but with a huge majority.

So 80% will be in attack mode on them.....

Accusing people of antisemitism for expressing negative opinions about Israel stopped working a while back. The IHRA's defintion of antisemitism is overly broad and impinges on the freedom of people to express anti-Israel views. Countries do not have protected characteristics.

@Alexandra2001
…All parties are struggling around the 20% mark of support, so we are all pissed off and it will get worse, the next Govt may well be voted in on 20% support, but with a huge majority.
So 80% will be in attack mode on them.....

l think you have hit the nail on the head here.

I guess you haven't read it either

The fact that Gaza is even an issue in the UK regarding how to vote for a UK MP is terrifying.

We have a lot of low calibre politicians these days which is leading to low calibre decision making. It's unsurprising really that more able people don't want to be politicians, as they don't get paid a vast amount and get slagged off relentlessly in social media.

The deputy leader of Reform and the brains behind Reform is Zia Yusuf, who is Muslim, but that doesn't stop people calling Reform Islamophobic does it?

Or is that somehow different?

Was ever thus...

Do you think selling off council housing but preventing councils using the funds to build replacements?
Going to war on the say so of the USA?

Down grading the spec of type 45 warships?

Borrowing huge amounts to pay people to sit at home? billions handed to companies who used it fraudulently or in the case of a "friend" stuck the 10k in his pension.

Becoming a PM or a senior minister, is a licence to print money during and after their tenure in office & always has been.

And yet he has no problem putting forward antisemitic candidates.

Muslims can be racist and Islamaphobic, as you say Yusuf is the brains... he will do whatever to get into power... all for the greater good.

But didn't he resign over some of their more extreme anti Islam policies....

I genuinely don't think the pay is the issue
It's actually quite generous and when you add the allowances, wow

But I think there are so many unpleasant things that go with the territory being a politician now, not least the security risks

And when you add in this type of people that you're working with ... as one of the resigning politicians said a few years back, if you enjoy backstabbing, then this is your era. If you want to get things done on a practical or administrative level, not so much. This is so sad because the latter is what we desperately need.

Zia Yusuf resigned from Reform over a newly elected Reform MP Sarah Pochin calling on Sir Keir Starmer to ban the burka. Whether you judge that to be an "extreme anti Islam policy" or not is your own view.

However it does at least show that Yusuf has integrity and will not necessarily put up with overt Islamophobia simply to get into power.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/05/zia-yusuf-quits-as-chair-of-reform-uk-after-new-mp-burqa-ban-row

Interestingly there seems to be no action against Green Party candidates and elected officials for making anti semitic comments :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86ed6e83g8o?app-referrer=deep-link