Scottish General Election

[Differentforgirls]

Who are Scottish people voting for next month?

I am going to defend myself against your attacks yes. And?

This you?

Why do you post this shite meme over and over? If you feel you have to do so, maybe discussion forums aren’t for you?

How have comparable small independent nations like Ireland say, or Denmark managed?

What do they have that Scotland does not & so cannot herself be granted future independence too?

I suggest that Labour, the Conservatives, LibDems & Reform form one party if they want to stop the SNP because like Northern Ireland unionism is divided. And in the UK the party in government calls the shots - like BREXIT. No less a momentous event than Scotland leaving the UK.

So if Westminster could take us all out of the EU, the Holyrood government should have the right to take Scotland out of the UK & back into the EU.

Apropos Spain stopping Scotland rejoining. That was their first position. They now have a second. They'll let Scotland rejoin unless the UK gives up Gibraltar.

Quid Pro Quo.

No.

We pay:

UK Govt.
Scottish Govt.
Council Tax.

HMRC is the sole agency that administers & collects tax - bar the different, excess SG rate. This is then transferred to the UK Treasury to pay back out to Scotland.

Before devoloution we paid tax to HMRC.

After devoloution we paid tax to HMRC then later an additional amount direct to the SG.

Politics aside, all areas of the UK are underfunded bar London & the SE. Hence Johnson's famous "levelling up" because the UK is most assuredly not a level playing field.

Look, this is from the actual Scottish government site:
"Scottish Income Tax is not a fully devolved tax. HMRC is responsible for the collection and management of Scottish Income Tax, which includes the identification of Scottish taxpayers. The Scottish Income Tax collected by HMRC is paid to the Scottish Government."

So yes, the income tax on wages is coming in full back to the Scottish government, it just takes a wee detour. It would be insane if they would have raised income tax on people in Scotland just for that money to leave Scotland and go to Westminster, even the SNP can't be that dim.
There are other things than the devolved responsibilities that a country needs to spend money on, defence, diplomatic services, immigration and border control, monetary services. These are all things Scotland will have to spend money on once/if it is independent.

Have you missed that the Scottish people voted to remain part of the uk?

what is it specifically about being a small nation that you think would mean an independent Scotland would be successful?

It’s like saying Zara and Topshop are both clothes retailers so why did Topshop go bust but Zara didn't. They should have been equally successful according to your logic right?

What exactly is the reason unionists believe that Scotland cannot possibly match say, Ireland?

What do you believe Scots don't measure up to?

Apropos 2014.

12 years back.

@Igneococcus

My apologies - you are quite correct - and I am happy to learn that our income tax does come back full circle! 👌

And where is clear evidence the result would be any different if there was a referendum tomorrow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independence

The link above is good.

Last poll 46% in favour.
43% not.
10% Don't Know

Generally "in favour" have led but the percentage of "Don't Knows" would swing it.

I bitterly regret voting No. Dumbfounded by the utter stupidity of BREXIT & the crap UK economy since.

What I don’t understand about the SNP is that indy ref was 12 years ago and the electorate voted no. The majority had their reasons for voting no and rather than attempt to address those reasons to try and win them over, they have continued with what increasingly appears to be student politics rather than a proper government.

@Motheranddaughter Incidentally, a poll in February (?) had 58% (!!!) of Scots voters interviewed as wanting independence if Farage became the UK PM.

Reform's quiet desire to row back on devoloution is dangerous - particularly as regards Northern Ireland.

I & many, many friends here in the Highlands would be on the streets if one Reform finger dared touch Holyrood. Remember, 78% I think voted Yes/Yes for devo.

Posted my vote today.

SNP/SNP.

Is there a middle ground?

https://scottishelections.ac.uk/2025/09/03/is-there-a-constitutional-middle-ground-in-scotland-attitudes-to-indyref-mandates/

What is it about Ireland that you think we should emulate? Low corporation taxes? Seems totally in opposition to the SNPs economic ideology.

🎯

Wikipedia 😂. Which can be edited.

Rather underwhelming

Here's the independence polling data from the last ten years from Professor Sir John Curtice's site. If you look at this year and bear in mind a +/- of a couple of percent error margin, it's neck and neck overall.

I think it could go either way, but I don't think No would get 55 again. But nor do I think Yes would potentially get more than 55.

I think anything less than 55 (ideally 60) shouldn't lead to change. Personally I think if you don't have at least 60% of voters behind you, it won't be a success as there's too much discord. I point you to the Brexit vote.

All referendums ideally need to be 60/40 for a change, rather than 50%+1.

How would you vote in a Scottish independence referendum if held now? (asked after the EU referendum) - What Scotland Thinks

https://share.google/HKrGrAufqAjF71Qt4

The No vote was a huge mistake. We were dragged out of the EU, our EU powers were reverted to UK automatically, and now we are a poor country despite being energy rich through oil, gas and renewables.

The UK has profited by 420 billion from oil taxation, and is still in debt.

Why do you think they are competent to keep running Scotland? Not 'it's always been this way', but what merit do they have, what is the justification for their continual poor management? Why is Wes Streeting in charge of that decision and not you?

John Curtice's opinion on what may or may not happen:

John Curtice: Polls says SNP will be the largest party but numbers vary - BBC News https://share.google/RXrhc1PXVE7BMa7Nn