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Scottish General Election

534 replies

Differentforgirls · 12/04/2026 14:33

Who are Scottish people voting for next month?

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:12

ERthree · 18/04/2026 09:08

I am Scottish and i am mighty proud of Faslane. Don't talk for the whole of Scotland when you really can't.

Same here. I would have thought Ukraine would have shown people what happens when you give up your nuclear arms.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:13

Differentforgirls · 18/04/2026 09:12

So not a majority.

In the context of what we were discussing it is.

Differentforgirls · 18/04/2026 09:15

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:13

In the context of what we were discussing it is.

No it isn’t. The majority you’re discussing was the majority in Holyrood in 2011, hence the referendum.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:18

Differentforgirls · 18/04/2026 09:15

No it isn’t. The majority you’re discussing was the majority in Holyrood in 2011, hence the referendum.

We were discussing Margaret thatchers comments. HTH

Differentforgirls · 18/04/2026 09:24

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 00:10

I find it humorous because your arguments are so patently ridiculous.

you clearly don’t remember why the 2014 referendum happened. It happened because the SNP won a clear majority. Something that has not been repeated since. Nothing to do with polling which renders your comment on NI even more ridiculous. 🤭

And again the straw man about there never being a referendum again. The SNP called for another referendum immediately after the first which dilutes any further calls for another. All anyone is said is that there needs to be a clear mandate for another referendum. Not because the SNP and no voters are throwing a tantrum at the result. Nothing voting or polling since the first referendum has given a clear mandate. That may change at this election but we’ll have to wait and see.

Again all those politicians are yesterdays men and woman and those were throwaway comments. Not any kind of promise or mandate. It’s very clear anyway that the only reason the SNP get a majority in Westminster is down to the FPTP voting system they do not get anywhere near even 50% of the votes.

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Differentforgirls · 18/04/2026 09:25

HTH.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:43

Differentforgirls · 18/04/2026 09:24

Second paragraph down

Do keep up. We’re clearly discussing different parts of our conversation. I’m just too lazy to copy and paste what I’m replying to. If you read down you’ll see. HTH

InconsequentialFerret · 18/04/2026 09:49

Compare that to Scotland: we had a voluntary referendum in 2014 precisely because it appeared likely to the government at the time that a majority might vote for independence.

This is absolute nonsense! Westminster allowed a referendum precisely because support for independence was around 25%. They thought it could be held, lost, and the issue (and the SNP) would go away.

I think they got a real fright when support grew to almost 50% and there was a real chance people in Scotland might vote to seccede.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:53

InconsequentialFerret · 18/04/2026 09:49

Compare that to Scotland: we had a voluntary referendum in 2014 precisely because it appeared likely to the government at the time that a majority might vote for independence.

This is absolute nonsense! Westminster allowed a referendum precisely because support for independence was around 25%. They thought it could be held, lost, and the issue (and the SNP) would go away.

I think they got a real fright when support grew to almost 50% and there was a real chance people in Scotland might vote to seccede.

The trigger was very clearly the SNP getting a majority in Holyrood. Something that was thought not to be possible.

Differentforgirls · 18/04/2026 10:06

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:43

Do keep up. We’re clearly discussing different parts of our conversation. I’m just too lazy to copy and paste what I’m replying to. If you read down you’ll see. HTH

No thanks.

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InconsequentialFerret · 18/04/2026 10:13

Cameron mistakenly believing that "No" was a formality and it would kill the issue stone dead, just as he did with his Brexit gamble and subsequent miscalculation.

You'd think the idiot might have learnt from the first one how things can potentially not go the way you envisaged.

Coffeeandallthebooks · 18/04/2026 10:43

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/04/2026 09:12

Same here. I would have thought Ukraine would have shown people what happens when you give up your nuclear arms.

Have you any idea what's going on at Faslane?

It has failed multiple safety inspections, and is unfit for purpose.

My local MP was caught shagging a submarine commander just after her husband was charged with spying for China. Naval commander resigned, MP still in Westminister, probably all our nuclear secrets in Beijing.

There is a great deal to be proud about in our armed forces but Faslane is not it.

Thanks to US pressure we've bought F-35's capable of dropping nuclear weapons. It is no longer our only nuclear option so it is a £100 billion white elephant with a deplorable safety record.

Mismanagement of it by the UK government is glaring and undeniable.

celticnations · 18/04/2026 17:18

From Pednathise Head to Muckle Flugga, Ness Point to Malin Head, England has historically sought complete sovereignty & fealty.

The "establisment" is still jealous of it's remaining sovereignty post Irish rebellion & secession & it is damned if the Scots & Welsh will also secede. One Nation, One Country, One Parliament is their real desire. It always has been.

Contrast the unionism above with the unionism generally espoused here on mumsnet ie love of the union, it's peoples, countries & cultures. I can understand & sympathise with the latter.

But the former example of unionism is arrogant, uncaring & unfair. And a simple google search into the United Kingdom's flawed "hyper-centralisation" & "aloof political power" will reveal the myriad of institutes that conclude this.

Differentforgirls · 20/04/2026 16:03

Which you said was FPTP. You’re all over the place.@gargoylesofbeezlebub

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 20/04/2026 17:39

Differentforgirls · 20/04/2026 16:03

Which you said was FPTP. You’re all over the place.@gargoylesofbeezlebub

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You missed the word Westminster in the sentence. 🙈Your reading comprehension is clearly what’s all over the place here.

Differentforgirls · 20/04/2026 18:45

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 20/04/2026 17:39

You missed the word Westminster in the sentence. 🙈Your reading comprehension is clearly what’s all over the place here.

No it’s not. You said that the trigger for the referendum was the SNP having a majority at Westminster. Which only happened in 2015. The referendum was in 2014.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 20/04/2026 23:26

Differentforgirls · 20/04/2026 18:45

No it’s not. You said that the trigger for the referendum was the SNP having a majority at Westminster. Which only happened in 2015. The referendum was in 2014.

Nope. You’re losing the plot. 😂😂 Feel free to quote it.

Differentforgirls · 21/04/2026 07:19

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 20/04/2026 23:26

Nope. You’re losing the plot. 😂😂 Feel free to quote it.

I‘m not going back through your screeds of boring nonsense again to find it. It’s like trying to catch smoke

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/04/2026 08:49

Differentforgirls · 21/04/2026 07:19

I‘m not going back through your screeds of boring nonsense again to find it. It’s like trying to catch smoke

Yeah what you mean is you can’t because you are wrong.

here is where I talk about FPTP. The word Westminster in the sentence makes it clear I’m not talking about Holyrood.

It's very clear anyway that the only reason the
SNP get a majority in Westminster is down to the FPTP voting system they do not get anywhere near even 50% of the votes.

WhaleEye · 21/04/2026 10:20

This thread has become a bit of a two horse circular argument 🤨🙄

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/04/2026 11:14

WhaleEye · 21/04/2026 10:20

This thread has become a bit of a two horse circular argument 🤨🙄

not my issue that different girls is so fixated on this. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Differentforgirls · 21/04/2026 15:04

WhaleEye · 21/04/2026 10:20

This thread has become a bit of a two horse circular argument 🤨🙄

Three. Think the other person gave in. I have now too. Tedious, ill informed attention seeking..

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/04/2026 15:06

Differentforgirls · 21/04/2026 15:04

Three. Think the other person gave in. I have now too. Tedious, ill informed attention seeking..

You were the one seeking attention by going on and on and on about it when you’d been proved wrong several times. 😂😂😂

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/04/2026 15:21

Differentforgirls · 21/04/2026 15:04

Three. Think the other person gave in. I have now too. Tedious, ill informed attention seeking..

As far as I was concerned the conversation was over on the 18th. YOU tagged me in a post yesterday bringing it up again. You came back for more and again got it wrong. If you didn’t want me to reply why tag me?

Differentforgirls · 21/04/2026 15:36

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/04/2026 15:21

As far as I was concerned the conversation was over on the 18th. YOU tagged me in a post yesterday bringing it up again. You came back for more and again got it wrong. If you didn’t want me to reply why tag me?

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