Gorton and Denton, what have you done?

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You have elected as an MP to stand in the UK&NI parliament a person who said in a panel interview with Annabel Tiffin from BBC Northwest Tonight that the Manchester Arena bombing was caused by people sewing division by questioning immigration.

That statement is so outrageous I don't even know where to start.

Doesn't wash. I have condemned Mandelson and AMW repeatedly on this site. And I have condemned Starmer for appointing Mandelson.

Eta: as a survivor of VAWG myself, your attempts to paint me as some sort of apologist for abusive men couldn't be more inaccurate.

The reality would be lack of foreign investment, endless strikes (because the promised utopia wouldn't be happening and power to the people), the currency would weaken, nothing would function reliably and you would get a brain drain. However, it would cut down the number of immigrants very effectively because no one would want to come here.

People who love socialism should go and live in a socialist country for a bit and see what fun it is.

Harman can do what she likes. To me hacking suggests a lack of integrity 🤷‍♀️

I agree. I hope more people start to see her as the grown up in all this chaos. She is definitely the best party leader atm imo.
Her personal ratings go from strength to strength, but that isn't yet showing in conservatives polling.

Thank you for your responses on the name. Its upsetting when some on the left use this as a slur against Kemi.

The result in D&G wasn’t ever about policy, either party or the candidates’ personal preferences. I campaigned for Labour in D&G and spoke people on doorsteps. Those supporting Greens said one of 2 things.. it’s because we believe they are the only party to keep reform out, if we thought Labour could we’d vote Labour, or Gaza. Denton didn’t want Labour to get in because of the Trigger me timbers What’s Apps ( absolutely fair) to send a message. So many people said but I would have voted for Andy Burnham. It’s a unique set of circumstances as a by-election usually is , but the main takeaway I found from the result was Denton and Gorton are very much left leaning.

@EasternStandard , I don't think the party sees her as right-wing enough.
I had thought that Generic that slimy one who went to Reform would have been her natural successor. The reform party seems a bit of a slug trap.
@cardibach , I meant it in terms of being true to her beliefs.

They’ve voted for community cohesion and public services. It’s wonderful 💚💚💚

I don’t agree it was cowardice. I thin’ it was more to do with wanting to keep a Labour mayor in Greater Manchester. If I grant you that though, in what way has it bitten him on the bum? One MP less is neither here nor there really with the majority he has - that was the calculation with Burnham, whatever motive you ascribe - it really doesn’t matter. And Reform didn’t get it, so there’s the same number of progressive voices in Parliament as before.

Thicky thicky dum dums IYKYK 💚

The party are happy with her imo. She’s getting a lot of support, they know it’s more than most.

It’s sowing, not sewing!

She may actually have a point. As a child I went to a school that had girls attending from all over the world, all faiths and cultures including Muslim girls, Jewish girls and of course Christian girls. Their faith never came into it, we respected each other and never questioned their faith! Now we have parties like Reform who are full of bigots and racists. Can you not see that since the rise of Reform intolerance of people who are not white British are at an all time low!

Gorton has a high Muslim population and the fact they voted for a party with a gay Jewish leader speaks volumes! And the turnout from the Muslim community was high!

You need to wake up and see the political landscape is changing and people are more open to parties like the Greens!

As a side note, I’m guessing you expected and maybe wanted Reform to win?

She has beliefs?
She follows Reform to chase their votes. She goes on about CSA now but did nothing when she actually had some power. Same for lots of other issues. She’s an opportunist

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Of course she does. You’re better off focusing on Starmer and the ructions between left and right in Labour and his latest loss of a safe seat.

Did you see her response to the election result? Do you consider that grown up?

Also using paedo in PMQs, very grown up do you think?

That's true, and we also profited from the triángle slave trade and we also banñed slavery and tried to prevent it in other countries. Good and bad all mixed up together.

I don't see how the Greens success changes that. They have policies I don't like (sex work and TWAW) and some I do.

If Isambard Kingdom Brunel was alive today her probably be building offshore windfarms and the right wing media would hate him for destroying the country.

Are the billionaires digging up their land banking and taking it with them? 🤦‍♀️

I agree with her.

Our Prime Minister appointmed a close friend of a know paedophile as US ambassador, and elevated another to the Lords. But Kemi's the bad guy for calling it out? Give over.

Could you explain what beliefs she has that have been demonstrated consistently throughout her political career then?
I am capable of being concerned about things in Labour (and the Greens, and any other political party) at the same time I hold the belief that Badenoch is an unprincipled chancer. Can’t you have more than one concern at a time?

It’s not the first time I’ve seen such a post on here.
Levels of ignorance really are depressing.

You agree with her on both accounts?

No comment on Starmer's behaviour which prompted KB's response.

I've already said I agree with her. Stop with the silly gotcha questions.
Write your own opinions, and let others have theirs.

the only reason we were ‘great’ is because we went around the world colonising, pillaging and subjugating other people. Which I doubt was great for them. Get a grip

They seem genuinely angry that the "Muslim Extremists" helped vote in a party with strong socially liberal policies. They have been ranting about how areas with a high Muslim demographic will want Shariah law but when Muslims (and non Muslims) tolerate/compromise on different social policies because they care more about other political issues that is somehow cheating.

Yep it’s not hidden she stated her aims in the leadership contest, even you could look it up.

However she’s never going to appeal to you. You’ll spend energy on denigrating but Labour have bigger issues to resolve.

Mandelson files coming out, shedding votes left and right. I’m happy with Kemi’s leadership. I know the staunchly pro Labour won’t ever be. Still Starmer is more at risk than she is and that’s great.