Another attempt to kill Trump

[Sweetiedarling7]

Can’t see another thread.

Armed intruder shot dead at Mar-a-Lago. I haven’t seen whether Trump was in residence at the time.

I wonder if anyone will succeed eventually?

Torn between thinking well it would be a good start and then thinking it would just make a martyr of him.

And yes, part of me is appalled that I should think that killing someone is ever justifiable.

It's been all over the news that Trump wasn't even there. So it was hardly an attempt to kill him if he was hundreds of miles away!

Poor planning then clearly.

I wish all these inexperienced kids would stop trying to kill him. They only get themselves killed in the process.

Whenever we talk about him being taken out as it were it only leads to us acknowledging a lot of people voted for him and his politics - that is the scary thing - he needs to demonstrably fail to educate those thy voted him in that this is not the way forward

It can hardly be called an attempt to kill Trump, when Trump wasnt there.

One quick Google you can check he was going to be in Washington this whole weekend.

Someone with mental health problems i assume.
Trump will absolutely use this to whip up his maga lot though.

I think your post sadly demonstrates how polarised and radicalised politics has become where people might agree with the assassination of an elected leader.

What's the point of this post? To advocate killing leaders we don't like?

I mean I guess that's one way of doing it. But we developed a liberal democracy so that we didn't have to do that.

The problem with advocating killing leaders is that it doesn't stop with them. If you have a culture of assassinating your leaders, that's part and parcel of having a culture of killing each other. If it's ok to kill a prime minister or president we don't like, it's ok to kill the neighbour who agrees with that prime minister or president, or for mumsnetters, if they park inconsiderately on the public highway near your house.

I think this raises another interesting point that there is a trend from certain groups to label those you disagree with politically as fascists or Nazis, not because they actually believe that they are fascists or Nazis (and probably couldn't provide a definition if asked).

But in order to justify violent action against them - because well you know they were fascists or Nazis and well
its kinda of OK to take violent action against fascists and Nazis.

I do believe that Trump is showing clear fascist tendencies.

I don't think he is a Nazi.

I also don't think it's right to try to kill him. He should be impeached, not assassinated.

And I don't even think it would make anything any better even if someone did kill Trump. JD Vance would not be an improvement.

Ah the tolerant left again. Honestly the nastiest and most viscous people in the west. The very people they profess to loathe. The least inclusive people. Be very ashamed of yourself.

Viscous people?

Yes their attitudes are very pour.

Point proven. For what it’s worth my spelling is usually very good, having been an English Teacher for 20 years. Chemo has taken it out of me today but well done on being a bell end

How is your point proven?

If people mildly rip the piss out of your spelling error, then that makes them the nastiest and most vicious people in the west? I don't think so.

And fwiw, there will always be people on both right and left who cheer on assassinations of people who they don't like. I remember some truly vile comments on social media when Jo Cox was murdered by a far right extremist.

The vast majority of people, whether left or right leaning, will recognise that violence is not a good way of doing politics. So stop trying to make stupid, pointless generalisations that simply aren't accurate.

You're nice.

Whilst you may be a rational person and not wish to kill someone based on their different political views, can you see that labelling someone as a fascist or a Nazi will give some people a motivation or justification for killing or being violent towards someone if they do believe that they are fascists or Nazis.

Councillor cleared of encouraging violent behaviour https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjeykklwn7vo

Unfortunately violence from the intolerant left is a growing problem:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnv61zv534eo?app-referrer=deep-link

Wow, OP seems to be in support of murdering an elected leader. How disgusting.

That’s ridiculous. If Trump is showing fascist tendencies, we should be able to use our free speech to call it out and explain why we think his governing is leaning towards fascism. Censoring people just because you think someone might be “inspired” to do something awful is still censorship and a gift to fascism, even if you think you’re being nice.

Oh come on- that was funny.

Sorry about your illness- hope the treatment is working, even if the short term is rough. 💐

They say the devil takes care of his own.

I don't agree with encouraging violence or whipping up a frenzy. Inciting violence is always wrong.

However, if I truly believe that Trump is showing strong fascist tendencies, then why should I not be able to express that? I can't be denied my freedom of expression simply because some nutter might hear me and go crazy with a gun? That would surely be an argument against anyone criticising any politician ever?

You should question yourself here OP. You shouldn’t want to live in a world where people assassinate presidents they don’t agree with. Next time it could be one that you do agree with and would you like others thinking it’s ok if a president like Obama got killed?

He was voted in and people must accept that and hope that their vote changes things in the way they want next time.

Sorry I just like bad puns.

TBH I think you have a point. While more acts of terror have been committed in recent decades by far right groups than far left, I think the idea of political violence now has a casual acceptance on the left that it doesn't on the right.