Another attempt to kill Trump

[Sweetiedarling7]

Can’t see another thread.

Armed intruder shot dead at Mar-a-Lago. I haven’t seen whether Trump was in residence at the time.

I wonder if anyone will succeed eventually?

Torn between thinking well it would be a good start and then thinking it would just make a martyr of him.

And yes, part of me is appalled that I should think that killing someone is ever justifiable.

Politics is far too toxic today. Too many proper unhinged people get far too obsessed with politics and go down the rabbit hole of darkness and hate. One of the reasons why I no longer vote and have nothing to do with politics.

I think a lot of people are very angry across the world right now. I highly doubt this will be the last attempt.

The information that has so far been released from the Epstein files has been utterly shocking.

The reason there are laws is so that society doesn’t descend into chaos where groups exact revenge on other people or groups. We have seen those in power are getting away with evil acts and public servants have been covering for them. People are so angry right now. It isn’t just a few men with mental health issues.

What we might start seeing is people becoming organised.

As a side note - I’m not in the US but it’s so very clear that people are waking up
and they are angry.

Trump has even referenced serving a third term of the presidency (which is prohibited by the US constitution). He indicated there are ways of getting around that. That is absolutely scary to me. Especially as the House of Representatives are preparing to vote on not allowing him to attack Iran.

It’s just absolutely crazy what has been happening in the US. Trump recently released a video of Barack Obama & Michelle Obama as monkeys in the jungle. It was so obviously racist.

You need to vote

Thick ?

:-)

My thoughts exactly.
Vance is possibly more worrying as he is clever.

Agreed, so it’s a pity that Farage will form an ICE if he gets in. He said so yesterday.

Wow, so you not only know who this was but you also know their politics? That's amazing! Do you have inside knowledge? Or are you just inventing stuff and getting angry about it?

I agree.

Unfortunately those on the left only see the right as being unhinged and dangerous.

Whilst those on the right only see the left as being unhinged and dangerous.

The reality is that both exist and the OP post only goes to prove it.

That said you should still vote if you can find a political party that sits somewhere in the middle (good luck with that!).

Well given that the OP was wondering if anyone would succeed in assassinating Trump and would tacitly support this then I think it would be a fair assumption to say that she is from a left wing leaning. Unless of course she is even more right wing than Trump and would like to see a much more right wing President.

OP - care to clarify?

All that has changed is that the press are reporting the apprehension of people. Look up how many people were apprehended and how many security threats there were duing the Obama administration.

I don't think that's entirely true. While there may have been similar threats among extremists, I don't think people would have felt comfortable casually weighing the pros and cons of Obama being assassinated on MN.

In terms of quantity and the type of people that fixate on whomever is president, little has changed, I mean.
There would have been a large number of people who would have liked to see Obama assassinated at the time, but you're probably right that they weren't on Mumsnet or in the UK.

Exactly

Turns out the would be shooter was a MAGA supporter who was angry about the Epstein files... So very left.

I have no idea about the attempted shooter's motives are whether his politics were left or right.

My comment was directed at the OP who appears to tacitly support the attempted shooting of Trump because of his right wing politics.

Perhaps the best person to clarify whether they think that Trump is too right wing or too left wing is the OP. But in the absence of that I will assume that it's because she felt he was too right wing.

I'm so despondent with politics. I'm beyond fed up with all the childish smearing of anyone who has a different opinion as a woke or fascist etc. It's all very ugly to watch.

Yeah I suppose I could pick a manifesto that best fits my way of thinking but truth is the manifestos are not worth the paper they are written on. Whatever government that gets in power usually u-turn on their pledges and then introduce policies not included on their manifesto.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15583515/austin-tucker-martin-epstein-files-trump.html

Could result in a sticky end, being viscous.

Violence is never acceptable as a means to achieving a political end in a democratic society.

Sadly that is not the attitude of many. The US in particular has a long history of violent attacks on Presidents or those near the Presidency - Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy, Reagan etc.

This kind of attack is much more likely in a society which allows people with mental health problems and grievances access to weapons.

Are you really supporting a politician you disagree with being murdered, OP?

Speaking for myself I would rather he was utterly destroyed in the next election, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and jailed, all the things he did undone including his crappy ballroom and all the things he has destroyed restored and this time with proper federal legislation. I'd like to see his poodles on the Supreme Court jailed too.

Failing that, I will settle for an age and health related natural event that will put him out of our misery, and if that happens I am absolutely opening the champagne.

Murder makes martyrs, so no. Not that.

What a monumentally stupid post.

The pp said nothing that could even faintly be misconstrued as antisemitic so I have no idea why you're trying to level that accusation against her.

She also said nothing about show trials. There are plenty of very valid reasons for Trump to be prosecuted, and they have nothing to do with opposing his political opinions. But by all means, feel free to turn a blind eye to them if it suits your political agenda to do so. You won't be the first.

As for the Hitler/Stalin comment? Well, you're clearly just getting desperate now, aren't you?

The thing is, you're kidding nobody but yourselves.

How utterly ridiculous.

I don’t think Trump is left or right. He is in a category of his own. He isn’t even a politician, he is a voracious immoral businessman doing the biggest “deal” of his grubby, grasping life.

Wanting him dead is not indicative of anything more than wanting to save the world.

As I said in my first post, part of me is appalled that I would be glad if he died but I will admit that it is how I feel.

Rather like I don’t support capital punishment but if somebody I knew for certain was a rapist or murderer I admit I would be pleased if they died.

My personal politics are eclectic by today’s binary standards as I find it perfectly possible to have a range of views.